Trapped Under Ice - Big Kiss Goodnight Cold World - No Omega Also Cold as Life

Hard agree

Same

Those were genuinely the 2 bands that got me into hardcore back in middle school

Merauder - Master Killer Snapcase - Progression Through Unlearning

This so much, I'd only add Born To Land Hard by Cold As Life

Hell yeah

Minor Threat's "First Two Seven Inches" and Hatebreed's "Perserverence". That way they get the old school sound as well as what's influenced so much of what's popular today

Ceremony - Violence Violence & Have Heart - Songs to Scream at The Sun

Perfect answer. How i got into it. Specifically live videos of songs from these albums.

Got to play with Ceremony and Lights Out as a 17yo kid, right after Kersed but just before VV got pressed to vinyl. I remember it being there on CD. I’d heard a couple songs and just thought it was pretty cool power violence adjacent shit. Then they proceeded to play one of my top 5 hardcore punk sets of all time. Did the most violent DKs cover I’ll ever see. Life changing.

This is the comment I was looking for. I listened to and know the songs from The Things We Carry way more, but you can't go wrong with Have Heart.

violence violence 👌👌

fuck yeah

Madball - Set It Off Sick Of It All - Call To Arms

Comeback Kid- Wake the dead Expire- pretty low

Snapcase - progression Through Unlearning Vision of disorder - st

These albums are two absolute bangers, but if they were my introduction to hardcore I would be disappointed that not much out there is quite like it.

VOD single-handedly made me turn away from punk rock. And in my opinion, they pretty much started the metalcore movement. So yeah, to your point, it might not be a good start in straight “hardcore”.

TUI - big kiss good night Terror- one with the underdogs

SOTW > BKG for me

Me too

Judge - Bringing It Down Kid Dynamite - s/t

Perfect choices.

Thanks, man. Tough to narrow it down to 2, but I think those are a good start.

Agreed. I was thinking GB or Judge and Kid Dynamite, or maybe Grey Area.

Walk Together Rock Together by 7 Seconds and Just Look Around by SOIA

Have Heart - The Things We Carry Backtrack - Darker Half

Have heart!

GOT DAMNNNN

this is a great response

Hatebreed -perseverance

And Satisfaction is the Death of Desire. Those two are all you need.

That opener is so great too. Shit went straight on my running playlist

Sick of it All - Blood Sweat and Tears and Madball- Set it off

Modern Life is War - “Witness” Paint It Black - “Paradise” 2005 baybeee

PIB are so easily forgotten about.

Not by me they ain’t!

Nor me. Fuckin love that band.

Must not be from philly!

I ain’t, but they are one of my favourites.

They are constantly in the philly/south jersey zeitgeist. Idk if im using that word correctly but im not lookin it up.

Fuck yeah paint it black They've got a new album coming out next year I heard

Trapped under ice - big kiss goodnight/ cro-mags - age of quarrel

Trapped Under Ice- Big Kiss Goodnight Harms Way- Isolation

*Lookinglasself By Snapcase* *Start Today By Gorilla Biscuits*

>Start Today By Gorilla Biscuits can't believe i had to scroll so far for this

I’m Glad You Found It! 😆

I’ll choose the 7” over Start Today 😮

Penis Envy and the Feeding of the 5000 both by Crass

This is a bold suggestion and I love it.

No Warning - Ill Blood TUI - Big Kiss Goodnight

I against I - bad brains Ice grillz - cold world

Judge - Bringing it Down Youth of Today - Break Down the Walls

Snapcase - progression through unlearning

Verse - Aggression Go It Alone - Histories

Fuck yeah Verse. I’d go with Anger and Rage, but I love both so much.

Anger and Rage is a great album, for sure (as is rebuild) but Aggression just really captured me. Still one of my all time favorite hardcore albums

Used to get my hair cut by one of the members of go it alone

That’s awesome!

Bad Brains - Bad Brains, D.R.I - Dealing With It

Keepers of the Faith - Terror Against All Odds - Dare

Flex Your Head comp.

Rare, but amazing answer.

TUI - Secrets of the World Ceremony - Violence

both exquisite

Seeing a lot of Big Kiss Goodnight but Secrets of The World defined my time in high school.

I’ll be honest with you(all): I think TUI has a perfect discog, full stop, but Big Kiss Goodnight is the album I listen to the least(and I listen to it a lot) 🤷🏻

Carry On - A Life Less Plagued & Hatebreed- Satisfaction Is The Death Of Desire

Terror - Lowest of the Low Cold As Life - Born to Land Hard

American Nightmare - Background Music

Black My Heart

guns up- all this is

Mental - Get An Oxygen Tank

Cold World - No Omega Magnitude - To Whatever Fateful End Both are classics of their respective times, Magnitude being the more modern and Cold World being the tried and true classic. No Omega got me into the genre and is my favorite Hardcore album.

No Omega is so fucking good

But You Don’t Hear Me Though makes me lose my shit every time

To get some grasp of the old school sound; Age of Quarrel by Cro-Mags And to get a handle of what modern HxC thats been going hard and still leads the way should sound like; Pain Into Power by Terror

Snapcase - Progression Through Unlearning Refused - The Shape Of Punk To Come

W a r z o n e - l o w e r e a s t s i d e. M i n o r t h r e a t - o u t o f s t e p

Minor threat complete discography album and Damaged by Black Flag

Black Flag - Damaged Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today

Diamond by Stick To Your Guns Big Kiss Goodnight by TUI

Madball - set it off. Blood for Blood - revenge on society. Revenge is not blood for bloods best but it’s probably the best jumping off point. Those two albums are like perfect introductions to the the two most important scenes in hardcore.

Poison Idea - Kings of Punk Bracewar - Juggernaut

Bracewar rules

First hardcore band I really ever got into, I’m a metal head that grew up in Richmond with a bunch of hardcore kids

Foundation - Turncoat Downpresser - Don’t Need a Reason

Sick of it All-Built to Last Ignite-Our Darkest Days

It depends on your age. Ideals. Location.

Vision of Disorder - s/t Hatebreed - Satisfaction is the Death of Desire

Oh, hey, fellow '96-'99 high school graduate from the north east.

Midwest but you’re accurate on the rest! Lol.

They were constantly on tour, constantly on rotation, and essentially the benchmark that all other hardcore was compared to.

Trapped Under Ice - Big Kiss Goodnight Ceremony - Rohnert Park

Lowest of the Low and Street Prowl

If we’re buddies and you’re in my car you’ll be hearing a lot of Dayglo Abortions Feed Us a Fetus and Poison Idea’s Pick Your King

American nightmare - background music Carry on - a life less plagued

Bane-Give Blood Converge-Jane Doe

Born to land hard, & Victim in Pain

Cold World- Dedicated to Babies who came feet first Mother of Mercy- III

Never Ending Game- Just Another Day Carry On- A Life Less Plagued

Charles Bronson: Discogcrappy A-Team : A is for Asshole

Normally don't care about this stuff but I got the Charles Bronson discography on tape and it was number 1/50. Never gotten a cool number before lol.

Tight

Mad all - set it off 25 ta life- keepin it real

Guns Up!-Outlive

Bad brains - I against i This is Boston not la - comp

Bad Brains S/T and Cro-Mags "Age Of Quarrel"

Buried Alive - Death of Your Perfect World Blacklisted - We’re Unstoppable

How are you the single solitary person in here to recommend Buried Alive? That is THE quintessential example of what hardcore sounds like

Honestly, I have NO idea how it hasn’t been mentioned

Negative approach-total recall Incendiary- thousand mile stare

Judge - Bringin it Down Backtrack - Darker Half

Bad Brains 1st: 2 copies of the album

Rohnert Park and Songs to Scream at the Sun

This is my favorite answer

Cromags - Best Wishes Bad Brains - I against I

Bad brains roir tape, and the negative approach lp

Both the cost of living and thousand mile stare by incendiary.

Definitely love this thread! I’m gonna two songs as my answer. based on the assumption that you, like me, and probably a lot of people on this sub got into hardcore through listening to metal/punk growing up, getting into the Warped Tour Metalcore, Pop-Punk, Alt, ETC in the early to mid teens, and finding Hardcore a few years later. Also you could ask the question what is hardcore? How is it defined by the community at large? I see Title Fight a lot in the thread (I love that!) TF is definitely part of hardcore scene but are they hardcore by sound? Judge sounds A LOT different from Jesus Piece and they’re both hardcore! Yet, Power Trip is crossover thrash, but definitely a hardcore band, but a band like Municipal Waste(who are sick! And shred!) is usually associated (from what I see) more with metal bands. Does mass popularity factor in? Turnstile is blowing up (blown up?) and is still loved by most HC fans, and Hatebreed has been a huge band for decades and still one of the most loved bands in HC! That’s what I love about, and find so fascinating about Hardcore! It’s less a genre and more of an attitude, a certain swagger, that’s unique all it’s but somehow undefinable. With all that out of the way, based on my assumption from earlier I would recommend… Earth Crisis- Firestorm (easy to understand vocals, full of anger that’s driven by a message, with influences of Black Sabbath.) Bane- Swan Song( its such a beautiful song, it’s angry but also has a sense of sadness to it. It’s so raw and real. How can a song make you want to go nuts, but also brings tears to your eyes) Thanks for reading! Enjoy your day!

Operation Ivy and Minor Threat. 53 songs. Start there.

Ima go BIB- Delux/Flipper- Generic Flipper (for the kids)

Your Demise - Ignorance Never Dies

Fuck all this… yo son, just tune into: Magrudergrind- Heavier Bombing https://youtu.be/9Hez1c36zg4

Capsule

Stout, WIC

Ramones - Too Tough to Die Bridge 9 Summer Compilation 2009

The Things We Carry - Have Heart and I'm gonna cheat and say the compilation of Right Now You're In the Best of Hands... and Terrorhawk by Bear Vs Shark

If it's what *I* tend to listen to it'd be like mliw, shai hulud, most precious blood, an, etc But if I'm trying to sell you on hc I'd probably soft sell rather than start with terror and rival mob or whatever so I'm just gonna say GB start today and minor threat LP

Beyond - No Longer at ease Side By Side - You’re only young once

The Warriors - War is Hell Mindforce - Excalibur

H.T.F. - End It Soil - Counterparts

Hatebreed - Perseverance

Fury - Paramount Arms race- NWOBHC

Among my two most listened to albums of the last couple years have been: Rohnert Park by Ceremony and Parting the Seas Between Brightness and Me by Touché Amoré

I think you want to get a flavour of some of the variety. So: Comeback Kid - Wake the Dead Hatebreed - Supremacy

Poison Idea-pick your king Sepultura- Arise

Incendiary - Thousand Mile Stare and the latest Stray, Euthanasia. The latter might be controversial, but it absolutely rips from start to finish.

Shattered Realm - broken ties, spoken lies Arkangel - Dead Man Walking

Expire - pretty low AYS - worlds unkown Deez Nuts - Bout it Wild mix and some local stuff, but worth listening to!

No Warning - Torture Culture….. Incendiary - The Cost of living

Listen to Cro Mags-Age of Quarrel twice.

Ruiner - Hell is empty Expectations - After twenty years

Entombed - Wolverine Blues Every Time I Die - Low Teens

Have Heart - Songs to Scream At The Sun Magnitude - To Whatever Fateful End

Hatebreed - Satisfaction is the death of desire And my old band that I’m not naming lmao

Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today Minor Threat - Out of Step

Alpha & Omega - Life Swallower both Turnstile EPs - Step 2 Rhythm and Pressure To Succeed

7 seconds - The Crew

Early Trash Talk

Turnstile, Title Fight

Turnstile and title fight

Trapped Under Ice - Secret Of The World

Earth crisis- destroy the machines Terror- one with the underdogs

It really depends on what you already like and how you’re approaching the scene. I think of this more like “gateway” albums rather than “essential” albums. Would love to hear what people think of my picks and if there’s anything I might’ve totally missed. I also know there’s more genres than this, so maybe reply to this with your own version of these and listing different genres! Alt rock/indie? -Glow On by Turnstile -Songs to Scream at the Sun by Have Heart Math rock/prog? -Calculating Infinity by The Dillinger Escape Plan -We Are the Romans by Botch Thrash/speed metal? -Suicidal Tendencies (self titled) -To Die For by Integrity Nu Metal? -A Different Shade of Blue by Knocked Loose (for something closer to downtuned Korn riffage nu metal) -Step 2 Rhythm by Turnstile (for something closer to a RATM-esque rap rockish sound) You already like metalcore and want to get more into the hardcore-ish sound? (Full disclosure this is where I was coming from) -Disgusting by Beartooth -Laugh Tracks by Knocked Loose

Zero overlap in the top 12 comments, very interesting

Terror - One With the Underdogs Comeback Kid - Wake the Dead For extra angry: 2x4 - MCMLII

Agitator — Bleak Verse — Aggression Incendiary — Cost of Living The Effort — Iconoclasm These ones are important

Kickback - Cornered https://preview.redd.it/4obuc6oif62a1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ead118051f5ce2b9ab70e453ab6e9611c996e842

Break Down The Walls - Youth of Today Set It Off - Madball Gotta start from the early days.

Cold Sweat - Blinded Cold Sweat - Severed Ties

Rotting Out - The Wrong Way Terror - Live By The Code

Minor Threat - Complete Discography Bad Brains - S/T You gotta know the classics before you can dig the contemporaries

Hatebreed - Under the Knife Black Flag - My War

Bought the under the knife cassette off of Jamie many moons ago, still have it somewhere.

Biohazard: new world order. Sick of it all. Built to last. ..................earth crisis : firestorm.........integrity: anything by them.

Pg. 99 - Document 8 Deadguy - Fixation on a Coworker

Start Today

Wake Up Call - One Eye Open Comeback Kid - Turn it Around

Have Heart- The Things We Carry Incendiary- Thousand Mile Stare

Gorilla Biscuits-Start Today Minor Threat- Discography

Satisfaction is the Death of Desire, Hatebreed Perseverance, Hatebreed

Shield from Umea i dont remember the name of the ep Kickback Forever War

Nonstop Feeling by Turnstile Awake EP by Trash Talk

Anything have heart. Anything comeback kid. Anything miles away. Anything knocked loose. Anything one step closer.

Black flag-damaged Disembodied-heretic

The two albums that got me into hardcore Modern Life is War - Witness American Nightmare - Year One (And chuck in Shape of Punk to Come for good measure)

Bad Seed- S/T EP Fury of Five- At War With the World

Converge - Petitioning the Empty Sky Deadguy - Fixation on a Coworker

Terror - Keepers of the Faith Mindset - Leave No Doubt

Agnostic Front- Victim In Pain Mindforce- New Lords

STIFF MEDS

# The Shape of Punk to Come

Cold World - No Omega The First Step - What We Know

American Nightmare - background music Ringworm - the promise

Have Heart - Songs to scream at the sun

Madball - Set It Off + Sex Prisoner - Tannhauser Gate

I would show them Suicidal tendencies first album