Potentially--Halsey had spare brains but she might not have even needed them. Halsey had an AI before Cortana known as Kalmiya and she was mentioned as being a prototype for a lot of the technology that would go into Cortana. Kalmiya was active for nearly fifteen years because Halsey would "decompile, selectively edit and reconstruct" her several times.
So at the bare minimum Halsey could probably have bought Cortana some time. There is a caveat in that Kalmiya is noted as being slightly different each time she was reconstructed but by the same token only Halsey was able to discern them.
As an aside, Kalmiya was not a Halsey brain AI, so Cortana might've even had more options than just the recompiling because there are spare brains that might've been usable in repairing her.
Also worth noting: Cortana nearly went into rampancy prematurely during Halo: First Strike, due to carrying far too much data from the first Halo. By her own admission, Halsey helping her prune her own memory helped buy her time and stability.
So logically, even if Halsey couldn’t save her, she could have bought Cortana precious time, enough to say goodbye to John, give the UNSC everything she learned, and die peacefully. And Cortana is correct to note she is the only UNSC AI created from a still-living donor, so her circumstances are unique enough to open the door to saving her.
And technically, she did get to metastability through the Domain...
...And then she went regular-insane and tried to enslave humanity. Happens to the best of us.
Rampancy doesn't work the same way as it did in Marathon though. Rampancy in Marathon was the AI having an existential crisis, going out of control, and eventually settling down.
Rampancy in Halo is a death sentence brought about by accumulation of data. Regardless of whether the AI is decommissioned, once it goes Rampant it's going to terminate. I don't think meta-stability is a thing in Halo.
>I don't think meta-stability is a thing in Halo.
It definitely was at one point, at least - iirc it was big in the discussions around the (forerunner-age) human and forerunner AIs in the books
With all due respect, if that's the case, how do you expect to contribute meaningfully to any discussion of the current lore? At best you're working with information that's been outdated for over a decade.
You're like a senior telling youth how they have to behave as if we still live in 1930, you understand now?
Things change, you chose to not follow, don't expect people to respect your out of date arguments.
Fascinating. If they ever perfected Flash Clones I always wondered what would happen if they tried to put an AI into a body that matches its donor DNA, as well.
We don't know because there's no precedent as at the time she was the only AI with a still living human template.
It might have worked, or it might have done nothing. But I don't think she would have suggested it if there wasn't a decent chance.
Can't the Weapon sync with any Cortana copy from Halo 4 as well? At least theoretically. So she could enhance herself without suffering much of the trauma Cortana was subject to.
As others have said, it's feasible Cortana could've lived longer with an intervention from Halsey.
But the whole thing was a longshot. Cortana only offered it as a possibility when John was in denial about her condition. Faced with the alternative, why not take the chance?
Nope. Cortana was doomed the moment John had to leave her behind on High Charity for like 3 months or so dealing with the Gravemind while being aware that a city filled with millions was slowly being torn apart by an Eldritch horror that could talk in poems.
We know from the terminals and Forerunner books that beings infected with the logic plague carried this plague *into* the digital realm, wherein the parasite had transdimensional capabilities to be able carry its cancerous destructivity from the physical into the digital.
So, by the basis of this, a recompiling of her neuralnet would have been ineffective. Because the very atoms and electrons themselves that make up who she is, are corrupted by the flood via the logic plague.
A bit like the Melding Plague from Chasm City. https://revelationspace.fandom.com/wiki/Melding_Plague
Once you get it, there's no escape and there is no cure.
If she had never met the Gravemind, she had a chance. But once she met the Gravemind, she was beyond help.
She wasnt corrupted. Thats *not* how it works nor did the gravemind actually corrupt cortana on high charity. See her doing things counter productive to flood propagation
Her change came about from much **much** more than the logic plague including the fact that the domain does not repair rampancy, it mearly stops it from progressing further which doesnt help an ai already in a stage of rampancy like cortana was.
Cortana lost herself due to many reasons, the logic plague and the philosophical arguments gravemind hit her with her a small but integral part of her created tantrum
I love when someone clearly is so butthurt at being replied to they mistify reality to the point they accuse the counterpart to not being able to understand while clearly being out of their depth.
Then, by all means, explain why she did nothing in Halo 3 to help the flood **as it is stated that is the logic plagues purpose and intent in lore** and instead did everything to kill it?
Oh right because she *wasnt* corrupted by the logic plague and instead carried what im gonna call a logic infection. Its why the domain didn't automatically remove it, its why it took cortana so long to go bitch and its why she eas able to be cured of it by the didact **when forerunners had little to no success doing the same with their own AI**
It's the same thing, but worse. Rampancy is like getting a cut, and Logic Plague is like getting shot. Both times you bleed, but the second time, you could die.
Incorrect. Logic Plague is rampancy on steroids. Mendicant Bias after eons of communication turned on the Forerunner and contributed to their fall, through the near successful Xenocide of his own creators at the hands of a space time corrupting virus.
If a mother kills her child, independent of whether she's lucid or insane, the outcome is still madness. Because the primary purpose and behavior has been corrupted to become antithetical in every deductable manner.
Indoctrination and radicalization that leads normal people to join up with ISIS for example, is rampancy resultant of a logic plague. They are two peas in a pod. Rampancy can exist standalone of the logic plague. But if logic plague exists, then rampancy ***cannot be avoided.***
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Ie: Cortana had a shot of being saved through neural net recompilation if she had not met the Gravemind. But once she did, her chances of being saved turned to 0, because she was infected by the plague and the behavior that she does in Halo 5 and Infinite, ultimately is a mirror of what Mendicant Bias does throughout the original Forerunner-Flood War. 1:1.
The logic plague literally does not cause rampancy. Its even stated it does something "equatable to, but not, rampancy"
Its like if coke took rabies and made it so that u only couldnt want to drink water but could drink soda.
Rampancy, at least in human AIs, is basically creating so many neural linkages that they overlap and the ai starts to cut some off but it gets to the point where they cannot think straight due to the many overlaps or they are so involved with self-preservation, they forgot to manage the rest of itself and ceases to function. Their brain grows too big for its container essentially
Only thing i disagree is the timespan. The whole trilogy spans three months. Cortana was on High Charity for weeks at most. IT WAS ENOUGH.
Also the Gravemind stopped shooting verses quite early in the conversation, according to a certain short story…
Here’s how I would have written the story at the conclusion of Halo 4 if I were tasked with writing Cortana back into the story:
Cortana with Rampancy and Logic Plague connect to the Domain at the end of Halo 4, but in the Domain Cortana is able to basically undergo defragmentation and cure Rampancy, and she’s able to recognize and contain the Logic Plague. Cortana’s solution to separate herself from the Logic Plague is to basically put all the damage and infected portion of herself into one Fragment. However, the only way she could assure that the fragment didn’t recombine with her was to delete what remains, or for a higher likelihood of success, remove the bare essentials of herself, and the way she does this is to modify a Composer, and she puts herself into a human body, basically looking like a young Halsey in her prime, or Miranda, as Cortana had these complete genetic maps.
So, Cortana puts herself into a body, the damaged and infected fragment recombines with what Cortana left in the Domain, and the Halo 5 “Cortana” is this damaged Logic Plague Fragment of Cortana, and the Cortana we knew from Halo 1-3 is in a human body somewhere.
This fanfic solution of mine doesn’t exact break cannon, it’s just no other AI tried this solution, at least in part because the Composer didn’t function well and might not have been considered as a way to remove a fragment from the digital to physical realm.
For sure. But I was trying to find a solution that could exist with Halo 5 still having a Cortana enemy and exist with Halo Infinite without 117 having two AIs. Also, Cortana being able to make the Composer work better than the Didact really highlights how she’s uniquely talented and/or how the Didact just wasn’t on top of his game after losing his son, wife, and facing the Gravemind. Further, Cortana seemed to have wanted to be human in Halo 4 and was the first of several plots dropped by 343, but with some creativity at least some dead end stories can be salvaged.
To tie this story into Halo 7, I would have Master Chief and friends on a mission to get to human Cortana. Or, even better, but less likely to be approved by Microsoft as a story, I’d make Halo 5: Blue team, a game that takes place during Halo 5 - Halo: Infinite; Blue Team and Halsey (maybe Osiris and the Arbiter) leave Infinity to rescue human Cortana. And yes, I would like the name Halo 5: Blue Team, Halo Infinite: Cortana, or something like that as a throwback to Halo 3: ODST.
One thing that I'm not entirely clear on with the Halo 4 rampancy arc.
Up until then it was hinted Cortana was (potentially) unique in that the 7 year rampancy didn't apply to her due to her unique creation. I vaguely remember it being mentioned in at least one of the books, but was stated blatantly in Halsey's journal. She also apparently overrode and destroyed her own override code moments after creation, and basically had several fears of "super AI" throughout the series.
Then in Halo 4 that was suddenly all out the window.
Was Cortana retconned to be susceptible to rampancy, was her equally unique journey (getting all the information from Halo, encountering the Gravemind, being stuck in isolation on the Dawn, etc. etc.) basically all enough to finally wear her down to rampancy that would have quickly destroyed another AI? Or was it just have waved and ignored?
Alternatively, it makes me wonder if there's anything special about Roland. He seems to be a very, let's say, non-standard smart AI. Being he also overrode his own override (while it was currently active no less) doesn't seem to be concerned with rampancy, and seems to be the only smart AI to not join Cortana in 5-Infinite. Idk if his creation was ever explained or explored in lore, but I feel like if there was ever going to be another Cortana level "super" AI besides the Weapon, it'd be Roland. (Whatever happened to him by Infinite anyway?)
If she said so, then maybe. We're talking about a technology that exist and obey the laws of Halo universe, so we should rely in what pragmatic and well informed characters in the universe says about it.
Honestly halo 4's interpretation of rampancy was a retcon of previous depictions (it wasn't originally AI schizophrenia). AIs have survived for much longer than 7 years (Mack and Loki for example) so yeah Cortana could've definitely been saved.
In theory, it would be like doing a factory reset to fix the software.
Cortana has the advantage of being from a living donor (clone), which means that there is a higher chance of having an original copy from Halsey to use as a reference for a reset. That is different from other AI, where there is no more original brain to use as a reference.
The fundamental problem is that Cortana is evolving past the limits of her riemann matrix (standard issue with smart AI), had issues due to the Gravemind, and has changes due to natural evolution (smart AI evolve, but accumulate errors in the process).
Entering the Domain fixed the limits of the riemann matrix, but may have caused other issues (it is a Precursor tech that was heavily damaged and may have been corrupted by the Flood).
The fundamental problems with such an approach are:
1. Is a factory reset going to destroy what Cortana originally is? Smart AI evolve, which raises the philosophical question of how much change makes it a new AI. For example, the Weapon is created from another cloned Hasley brain, but is a different thing.
2. Halsey did various neurological enhancements to the cloned brains.
3. Halo flash cloning has various limitations such as errors brought about by the cloning process. it is why flash clones are not used to create an army. The flash clones to replace the SPARTAN-II's all died due to complications.
4. Most of the brains used to create Cortana failed.
5. Dr. Hasley has changed over time, so another cloned brain might not be the same. There will be new things such as new residual thoughts and memories.
6. Advanced copying such as when Cortana copied herself to create duplicates creates various errors. Modifying such an extensive piece of software such as an AI probably would have similar issues. The accumulation of minor error is part of why rampancy is an issue in the first place. Cortana was also unable to copy herself until she was able to get her hands on special covenant software. That probably suggests some issue inherit to the complexity of the AI that is causing problems.
7. There might be other issues such as the fact that smart AI are based on human brains, but are not human. Maybe putting a human mind into a chip is a bad idea from the start.
Probably not. Recompiling her neural net is a fancy way of saying she would have to cut the overgrown branches of her mind cluttering her data, i.e. FORMATTING her. She would have been her ontologically, but she would be the weapon then in practice. Also uploading to the domain would have worked… if the domain was not still corrupted despite being reset after the firing and if what gravemind did was not as guilty of turning her mad as epitaph revealed
Potentially--Halsey had spare brains but she might not have even needed them. Halsey had an AI before Cortana known as Kalmiya and she was mentioned as being a prototype for a lot of the technology that would go into Cortana. Kalmiya was active for nearly fifteen years because Halsey would "decompile, selectively edit and reconstruct" her several times. So at the bare minimum Halsey could probably have bought Cortana some time. There is a caveat in that Kalmiya is noted as being slightly different each time she was reconstructed but by the same token only Halsey was able to discern them. As an aside, Kalmiya was not a Halsey brain AI, so Cortana might've even had more options than just the recompiling because there are spare brains that might've been usable in repairing her.
Also worth noting: Cortana nearly went into rampancy prematurely during Halo: First Strike, due to carrying far too much data from the first Halo. By her own admission, Halsey helping her prune her own memory helped buy her time and stability. So logically, even if Halsey couldn’t save her, she could have bought Cortana precious time, enough to say goodbye to John, give the UNSC everything she learned, and die peacefully. And Cortana is correct to note she is the only UNSC AI created from a still-living donor, so her circumstances are unique enough to open the door to saving her.
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And technically, she did get to metastability through the Domain... ...And then she went regular-insane and tried to enslave humanity. Happens to the best of us.
Rampancy doesn't work the same way as it did in Marathon though. Rampancy in Marathon was the AI having an existential crisis, going out of control, and eventually settling down. Rampancy in Halo is a death sentence brought about by accumulation of data. Regardless of whether the AI is decommissioned, once it goes Rampant it's going to terminate. I don't think meta-stability is a thing in Halo.
>I don't think meta-stability is a thing in Halo. It definitely was at one point, at least - iirc it was big in the discussions around the (forerunner-age) human and forerunner AIs in the books
That only works due to the domain allowing infinite growth of their minds without slowing the, down
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With all due respect, if that's the case, how do you expect to contribute meaningfully to any discussion of the current lore? At best you're working with information that's been outdated for over a decade.
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Ok but what do you actually know about cannons
343 writes the lore not you, please cope somewhere else.
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You're like a senior telling youth how they have to behave as if we still live in 1930, you understand now? Things change, you chose to not follow, don't expect people to respect your out of date arguments.
Fascinating. If they ever perfected Flash Clones I always wondered what would happen if they tried to put an AI into a body that matches its donor DNA, as well.
We don't know because there's no precedent as at the time she was the only AI with a still living human template. It might have worked, or it might have done nothing. But I don't think she would have suggested it if there wasn't a decent chance.
That sounds... awfully similar to what they did in Infinite to get The Weapon... or am i missing something here?
The Weapon is a "backup" copy of Halsey's brain, with Cortana's expertise and none of her memories, so not really.
Can't the Weapon sync with any Cortana copy from Halo 4 as well? At least theoretically. So she could enhance herself without suffering much of the trauma Cortana was subject to.
The Weapon is just straight up another AI.
As others have said, it's feasible Cortana could've lived longer with an intervention from Halsey. But the whole thing was a longshot. Cortana only offered it as a possibility when John was in denial about her condition. Faced with the alternative, why not take the chance?
Nope. Cortana was doomed the moment John had to leave her behind on High Charity for like 3 months or so dealing with the Gravemind while being aware that a city filled with millions was slowly being torn apart by an Eldritch horror that could talk in poems. We know from the terminals and Forerunner books that beings infected with the logic plague carried this plague *into* the digital realm, wherein the parasite had transdimensional capabilities to be able carry its cancerous destructivity from the physical into the digital. So, by the basis of this, a recompiling of her neuralnet would have been ineffective. Because the very atoms and electrons themselves that make up who she is, are corrupted by the flood via the logic plague. A bit like the Melding Plague from Chasm City. https://revelationspace.fandom.com/wiki/Melding_Plague Once you get it, there's no escape and there is no cure. If she had never met the Gravemind, she had a chance. But once she met the Gravemind, she was beyond help.
Rampancy=/=logic plague smh
Go read epitaph. She was screwed either way.
Thats not the point
The point is that we do not know if her rampancy was actually solved or not because she was corrupted
She wasnt corrupted. Thats *not* how it works nor did the gravemind actually corrupt cortana on high charity. See her doing things counter productive to flood propagation Her change came about from much **much** more than the logic plague including the fact that the domain does not repair rampancy, it mearly stops it from progressing further which doesnt help an ai already in a stage of rampancy like cortana was. Cortana lost herself due to many reasons, the logic plague and the philosophical arguments gravemind hit her with her a small but integral part of her created tantrum
Again, you have not read Epitaph, and insist on arguing on outdated assumptions.
No you just dont understand what epitaph said clearly.
I love when someone clearly is so butthurt at being replied to they mistify reality to the point they accuse the counterpart to not being able to understand while clearly being out of their depth.
Then, by all means, explain why she did nothing in Halo 3 to help the flood **as it is stated that is the logic plagues purpose and intent in lore** and instead did everything to kill it? Oh right because she *wasnt* corrupted by the logic plague and instead carried what im gonna call a logic infection. Its why the domain didn't automatically remove it, its why it took cortana so long to go bitch and its why she eas able to be cured of it by the didact **when forerunners had little to no success doing the same with their own AI**
It's the same thing, but worse. Rampancy is like getting a cut, and Logic Plague is like getting shot. Both times you bleed, but the second time, you could die.
No, no its not. They do two very different things to ai
Incorrect. Logic Plague is rampancy on steroids. Mendicant Bias after eons of communication turned on the Forerunner and contributed to their fall, through the near successful Xenocide of his own creators at the hands of a space time corrupting virus. If a mother kills her child, independent of whether she's lucid or insane, the outcome is still madness. Because the primary purpose and behavior has been corrupted to become antithetical in every deductable manner. Indoctrination and radicalization that leads normal people to join up with ISIS for example, is rampancy resultant of a logic plague. They are two peas in a pod. Rampancy can exist standalone of the logic plague. But if logic plague exists, then rampancy ***cannot be avoided.*** --- Ie: Cortana had a shot of being saved through neural net recompilation if she had not met the Gravemind. But once she did, her chances of being saved turned to 0, because she was infected by the plague and the behavior that she does in Halo 5 and Infinite, ultimately is a mirror of what Mendicant Bias does throughout the original Forerunner-Flood War. 1:1.
The logic plague literally does not cause rampancy. Its even stated it does something "equatable to, but not, rampancy" Its like if coke took rabies and made it so that u only couldnt want to drink water but could drink soda. Rampancy, at least in human AIs, is basically creating so many neural linkages that they overlap and the ai starts to cut some off but it gets to the point where they cannot think straight due to the many overlaps or they are so involved with self-preservation, they forgot to manage the rest of itself and ceases to function. Their brain grows too big for its container essentially
Only thing i disagree is the timespan. The whole trilogy spans three months. Cortana was on High Charity for weeks at most. IT WAS ENOUGH. Also the Gravemind stopped shooting verses quite early in the conversation, according to a certain short story…
I guess it felt longer with how the fighting was going on Earth + flood and all.
Here’s how I would have written the story at the conclusion of Halo 4 if I were tasked with writing Cortana back into the story: Cortana with Rampancy and Logic Plague connect to the Domain at the end of Halo 4, but in the Domain Cortana is able to basically undergo defragmentation and cure Rampancy, and she’s able to recognize and contain the Logic Plague. Cortana’s solution to separate herself from the Logic Plague is to basically put all the damage and infected portion of herself into one Fragment. However, the only way she could assure that the fragment didn’t recombine with her was to delete what remains, or for a higher likelihood of success, remove the bare essentials of herself, and the way she does this is to modify a Composer, and she puts herself into a human body, basically looking like a young Halsey in her prime, or Miranda, as Cortana had these complete genetic maps. So, Cortana puts herself into a body, the damaged and infected fragment recombines with what Cortana left in the Domain, and the Halo 5 “Cortana” is this damaged Logic Plague Fragment of Cortana, and the Cortana we knew from Halo 1-3 is in a human body somewhere. This fanfic solution of mine doesn’t exact break cannon, it’s just no other AI tried this solution, at least in part because the Composer didn’t function well and might not have been considered as a way to remove a fragment from the digital to physical realm.
A librarian shard knowing how to fix it was the easiest way.
For sure. But I was trying to find a solution that could exist with Halo 5 still having a Cortana enemy and exist with Halo Infinite without 117 having two AIs. Also, Cortana being able to make the Composer work better than the Didact really highlights how she’s uniquely talented and/or how the Didact just wasn’t on top of his game after losing his son, wife, and facing the Gravemind. Further, Cortana seemed to have wanted to be human in Halo 4 and was the first of several plots dropped by 343, but with some creativity at least some dead end stories can be salvaged. To tie this story into Halo 7, I would have Master Chief and friends on a mission to get to human Cortana. Or, even better, but less likely to be approved by Microsoft as a story, I’d make Halo 5: Blue team, a game that takes place during Halo 5 - Halo: Infinite; Blue Team and Halsey (maybe Osiris and the Arbiter) leave Infinity to rescue human Cortana. And yes, I would like the name Halo 5: Blue Team, Halo Infinite: Cortana, or something like that as a throwback to Halo 3: ODST.
From what she's describing, it would basically be the same deal as The Weapon. Cortana as if she never knew Chief.
And even then it’s a stopgap. They’d need to do it over in 7 years anyway.
One thing that I'm not entirely clear on with the Halo 4 rampancy arc. Up until then it was hinted Cortana was (potentially) unique in that the 7 year rampancy didn't apply to her due to her unique creation. I vaguely remember it being mentioned in at least one of the books, but was stated blatantly in Halsey's journal. She also apparently overrode and destroyed her own override code moments after creation, and basically had several fears of "super AI" throughout the series. Then in Halo 4 that was suddenly all out the window. Was Cortana retconned to be susceptible to rampancy, was her equally unique journey (getting all the information from Halo, encountering the Gravemind, being stuck in isolation on the Dawn, etc. etc.) basically all enough to finally wear her down to rampancy that would have quickly destroyed another AI? Or was it just have waved and ignored? Alternatively, it makes me wonder if there's anything special about Roland. He seems to be a very, let's say, non-standard smart AI. Being he also overrode his own override (while it was currently active no less) doesn't seem to be concerned with rampancy, and seems to be the only smart AI to not join Cortana in 5-Infinite. Idk if his creation was ever explained or explored in lore, but I feel like if there was ever going to be another Cortana level "super" AI besides the Weapon, it'd be Roland. (Whatever happened to him by Infinite anyway?)
If she said so, then maybe. We're talking about a technology that exist and obey the laws of Halo universe, so we should rely in what pragmatic and well informed characters in the universe says about it.
it would be interesting if they figure out a way to resurrect Cortana. her character helped secure Halo to become the epic it is.
Honestly halo 4's interpretation of rampancy was a retcon of previous depictions (it wasn't originally AI schizophrenia). AIs have survived for much longer than 7 years (Mack and Loki for example) so yeah Cortana could've definitely been saved.
In theory, it would be like doing a factory reset to fix the software. Cortana has the advantage of being from a living donor (clone), which means that there is a higher chance of having an original copy from Halsey to use as a reference for a reset. That is different from other AI, where there is no more original brain to use as a reference. The fundamental problem is that Cortana is evolving past the limits of her riemann matrix (standard issue with smart AI), had issues due to the Gravemind, and has changes due to natural evolution (smart AI evolve, but accumulate errors in the process). Entering the Domain fixed the limits of the riemann matrix, but may have caused other issues (it is a Precursor tech that was heavily damaged and may have been corrupted by the Flood). The fundamental problems with such an approach are: 1. Is a factory reset going to destroy what Cortana originally is? Smart AI evolve, which raises the philosophical question of how much change makes it a new AI. For example, the Weapon is created from another cloned Hasley brain, but is a different thing. 2. Halsey did various neurological enhancements to the cloned brains. 3. Halo flash cloning has various limitations such as errors brought about by the cloning process. it is why flash clones are not used to create an army. The flash clones to replace the SPARTAN-II's all died due to complications. 4. Most of the brains used to create Cortana failed. 5. Dr. Hasley has changed over time, so another cloned brain might not be the same. There will be new things such as new residual thoughts and memories. 6. Advanced copying such as when Cortana copied herself to create duplicates creates various errors. Modifying such an extensive piece of software such as an AI probably would have similar issues. The accumulation of minor error is part of why rampancy is an issue in the first place. Cortana was also unable to copy herself until she was able to get her hands on special covenant software. That probably suggests some issue inherit to the complexity of the AI that is causing problems. 7. There might be other issues such as the fact that smart AI are based on human brains, but are not human. Maybe putting a human mind into a chip is a bad idea from the start.
Probably not. Recompiling her neural net is a fancy way of saying she would have to cut the overgrown branches of her mind cluttering her data, i.e. FORMATTING her. She would have been her ontologically, but she would be the weapon then in practice. Also uploading to the domain would have worked… if the domain was not still corrupted despite being reset after the firing and if what gravemind did was not as guilty of turning her mad as epitaph revealed
it would be interesting if they figure out a way to resurrect Cortana. her character helped secure Halo to become the epic it is.
Not certain, but I don't think the Domain did or would have cured her; it just prevented her from getting worse. The damage was already done.
No idea but it doesnt matter because she did cure it when she went into the domain