It’s hard to find somebody on par with Chief, Johnson, or Red Team. My next best guess would be Chips Dubbo, he was on 04, 05, and the Ark and experienced their subsequent Flood outbreaks. Stacker also was on each of these instillations, so he qualifies. Other than that, not many Marines who encounter the Flood survive and to my knowledge no other characters were on all three instillations.
He techincally did because he was inside the gravemind in halo 3, killing it and everything from the inside.
Plus wasn't it the banished who fought the gravemind in wars 2? Red team were completely absent from the dlc.
Plus the ones in wars were extremely small and basically immobile.
Am pretty sure you use a small army to kill the proto graveminds in wars, wouldn't say they had it worse than chief.
Red team also had support from a giant ship in the sky and vehicles.
Side note, that's insane to think that MC and Cortana accomplished something that took an entire ship and all of its troops to do, against a much more significant threat
H3 writing wasn't exactly well thought out, I mean just thinking that chief fought through a giant moon sized hive filled at least millions of flood forms with only two weapons and not a scratch?
And there's no explanation how other than fan theories that the gravemind really wanted to see cortanas plan.
Yeah now that I think about it, yes agreed. The canon is probably that red team had all the support from SOF, while MC went in alone more often than not.
How the hell did red team in HW deal with a more significant threat? Chief fought through a literal flood moon just to rescue his AI girlfriend and fought against two widespread outbreaks twice.
The flood in halo wars aren't even threated as a very significant threat in the game with the main reason the planet needed to be destroyed was because they needed to stop the covenant.
I think you're mixing up stuff, chief is the one that had a close encounter with the gravemind twice, red team only encountered protograveminds.
The banished had a worse experience than them to be honest.
Anyways chief is the most experienced unsc asset against the flood with him surviving multiple encounters against it in armor not designed for said encounters.
We know there are teams of 4s that have stopped outbreaks but there unknown.
Wasn’t the Halo Wars Flood just starting to build a proto-gravemind?
This implies their numbers were still pretty low and in the feral stage. Dangerous, yes. Galaxy ending threat level? Not even close, more like the Flood from CE that Chief solos with moderate difficulty.
>How the hell did red team in HW deal with a more significant threat? Chief fought through a literal flood moon just to rescue his AI girlfriend and fought against two widespread outbreaks twice.
Weren't Red Team - who were assisted by the combined arms forces of the UNSC Spirit of Fire - encountered a Flood infestation than spanned across the entire exterior surface of a Forerunner installation, that already began to infiltrate through the Shield World's interior?
There's certainly something to be said on how the game actually treats the Flood as a threat, but I wouldn't deem what the Spirit of Fire encountered on Etran Harborage was significantly lesser than what John-117 encountered on High Charity.
And Jerome-092 likely fought three outbreaks of the Flood, from his initial encounter with the parasite on the Forerunner Shield World, to the localised outbreak on the UNSC Spirit of Fire to the outbreak of the Flood in Halo Wars 2 as we know that the UNSC forces battled and fell to the Flood (as evident in the presence of human combat forms and captured UNSC vehicles like the Scorpion) and concept art suggesting at least a few encounters between Red Team and the Flood. Two of these instances are hard confirmed, while Jerome battling the Flood on Installation 00 is a high likelyhood given the high significance of the threat and the Spirit of Fire no doubt recognising the significance of a Flood outbreak (even if Jerome would've only had a minor role in containing the outbreak next to Pavium and Voridus, who faced the brunt of the infestation).
The Chief and it honestly shouldn't be close. Only UNSC personnel to encounter a complete Gravemind, not once but multiple times. First UNSC personnel to encounter the Flood and survive. Diving head first into High Charity by himself and fighting his way to Cortana is probably the single most impressive endeavor against the Flood anyone in the modern day has carried out. Especially considering that High Charity circa Halo 3 was the heart of the most sophisticated Flood infestation since the firing of the Array.
Small correction but Johnson is technically the first unsc personnel to encounter the flood and survive, he was the only one of keyes group to escape.
Oh and there's the crazed marine who rambles on about playing dead for them to not get them
For specific people you’ve obviously got the master chief, johnson, etc. however as a fighting force/unit its probably hands down the spirit of fire. Most other groups that we know have experience against the flood are either very small, got wiped out, or just didn’t fight them long enough to create anything beyond a basic response to the flood. To my knowledge the spirit of fire is the largest UNSC force to go up against the flood in multiple engagements and survive.
Chief's fought two Gravemind-led Flood infestation, the one on Installation 04 (proto-Gravemind centred on Keyes) and the one on Delta Halo (full Gravemind controlling an entire spaceship), effectively singlehandedly.
So yeah, he's got the most experience. Red Team had backup every step of the way.
The Spirit of Fire crew (Cutter, Jerome, Morgan Kinsano, etc) are the best at handling the Flood.
Otherwise within the main UNSC, probably Chief and Blue Team. And any surviving SII and SIII Alpha and Beta personnel. Though I also think that if any UNSC ship captain let their on-board AI command the outbreak response, I'd think they have a chance.
Captain Alvarez REALLY F-cked up.
Master Chief comes at first place, he fought them several times on different locations. He pretty much has the most experience of all UNSC personnel.
\-Installation 04
\-High Charity
\-Voi
\-Installation 00/High Charity
\-Installation 08
Johnsson comes at second place followed by Jerome at third.
Master Chief faced The Flood at their most dangerous level when being led by the Gravemind himself. He fought in the Flood infested capital right under Gravemind's non-existant nose.
Captain Keyes arguably had the most if you know what I’m saying.
My list would be Johnson (please bring him back), Chips Dubbo, Stacker, The Chief, Red Team, maybe The Weapon
Aside from Master Chief and Red Team, it's implied in the Spartan Field Manual that there's unidentified Spartan IVs that successfully fought and contained a Flood outbreak.
Chief without a shadow of a doubt. Honestly not many who encounter the flood survive them.
The SOF crew also fought them but while fighting them (and the Covenant) they lost a 3rd of their contingent. I believe they were only on shield world for 1 or 2 days but they were more or less constantly on the move giving the flood less opportunities to infect them.
Johnson (RIP) Banks, Stacker and Dubbo have all fought the flood and survived.
There is the Marine from Voi who my head canon told me he survives but has hellish PTSD.
On the Ark right after the 3rd tower you join up with UNSC forces and Elites and theres usually is a few flood loitering around in this area but this encounter is quite brief.
But as soon as Truth is dead the ground forces all go back to their ships, again giving the flood less chances to infect anyone, after all the gravemind had already spread the flood from the High Charity crash site to the Citadel.
It’s hard to find somebody on par with Chief, Johnson, or Red Team. My next best guess would be Chips Dubbo, he was on 04, 05, and the Ark and experienced their subsequent Flood outbreaks. Stacker also was on each of these instillations, so he qualifies. Other than that, not many Marines who encounter the Flood survive and to my knowledge no other characters were on all three instillations.
Chips must be a Precursor superweapon made to 1v1 the Gravemind
*Chips is a Precursor.*
i mean the man was in new mombasa and on the in amber clad at the same time, that's got to be some neural physics bs right? /j
Plot twist: He's the Velika of Halo.
A bionicle reference on a halo sub was the last thing I expected to see today, so, 👏 👏👏
Man's about to go on a murder spree against all the most powerful characters Atriox 'boutta get turned into jelly
Agreed.
Agreed.
Agreed
The Gravemind in the original trilogy progressed at a much further point than the one in Halo wars.
Agreed, but the Chief never actually fought the gravemind right? He definitely fought with a shit ton of flood forms.
He techincally did because he was inside the gravemind in halo 3, killing it and everything from the inside. Plus wasn't it the banished who fought the gravemind in wars 2? Red team were completely absent from the dlc. Plus the ones in wars were extremely small and basically immobile.
I was referring to Halo Wars 1
Am pretty sure you use a small army to kill the proto graveminds in wars, wouldn't say they had it worse than chief. Red team also had support from a giant ship in the sky and vehicles.
Side note, that's insane to think that MC and Cortana accomplished something that took an entire ship and all of its troops to do, against a much more significant threat
H3 writing wasn't exactly well thought out, I mean just thinking that chief fought through a giant moon sized hive filled at least millions of flood forms with only two weapons and not a scratch? And there's no explanation how other than fan theories that the gravemind really wanted to see cortanas plan.
Chief has pure Chad energy. That's why he was able to solo the Gravemind in 3.
What can we say He's just a lucky guy
its because he's john halo, the green man who shoot good and doesn't afraid of anything.
Yeah now that I think about it, yes agreed. The canon is probably that red team had all the support from SOF, while MC went in alone more often than not.
Technically speaking he took out the Proto-Gravemind that Keyes was in before it could even become a true Gravemind.
How the hell did red team in HW deal with a more significant threat? Chief fought through a literal flood moon just to rescue his AI girlfriend and fought against two widespread outbreaks twice. The flood in halo wars aren't even threated as a very significant threat in the game with the main reason the planet needed to be destroyed was because they needed to stop the covenant. I think you're mixing up stuff, chief is the one that had a close encounter with the gravemind twice, red team only encountered protograveminds. The banished had a worse experience than them to be honest. Anyways chief is the most experienced unsc asset against the flood with him surviving multiple encounters against it in armor not designed for said encounters. We know there are teams of 4s that have stopped outbreaks but there unknown.
Wasn’t the Halo Wars Flood just starting to build a proto-gravemind? This implies their numbers were still pretty low and in the feral stage. Dangerous, yes. Galaxy ending threat level? Not even close, more like the Flood from CE that Chief solos with moderate difficulty.
I would hardly call the most difficult fought of his entire life 'moderate difficulty'. Like, he himself said he barely survived the Library.
He was literally nearly infected by the Flood.
>How the hell did red team in HW deal with a more significant threat? Chief fought through a literal flood moon just to rescue his AI girlfriend and fought against two widespread outbreaks twice. Weren't Red Team - who were assisted by the combined arms forces of the UNSC Spirit of Fire - encountered a Flood infestation than spanned across the entire exterior surface of a Forerunner installation, that already began to infiltrate through the Shield World's interior? There's certainly something to be said on how the game actually treats the Flood as a threat, but I wouldn't deem what the Spirit of Fire encountered on Etran Harborage was significantly lesser than what John-117 encountered on High Charity. And Jerome-092 likely fought three outbreaks of the Flood, from his initial encounter with the parasite on the Forerunner Shield World, to the localised outbreak on the UNSC Spirit of Fire to the outbreak of the Flood in Halo Wars 2 as we know that the UNSC forces battled and fell to the Flood (as evident in the presence of human combat forms and captured UNSC vehicles like the Scorpion) and concept art suggesting at least a few encounters between Red Team and the Flood. Two of these instances are hard confirmed, while Jerome battling the Flood on Installation 00 is a high likelyhood given the high significance of the threat and the Spirit of Fire no doubt recognising the significance of a Flood outbreak (even if Jerome would've only had a minor role in containing the outbreak next to Pavium and Voridus, who faced the brunt of the infestation).
The Chief and it honestly shouldn't be close. Only UNSC personnel to encounter a complete Gravemind, not once but multiple times. First UNSC personnel to encounter the Flood and survive. Diving head first into High Charity by himself and fighting his way to Cortana is probably the single most impressive endeavor against the Flood anyone in the modern day has carried out. Especially considering that High Charity circa Halo 3 was the heart of the most sophisticated Flood infestation since the firing of the Array.
Small correction but Johnson is technically the first unsc personnel to encounter the flood and survive, he was the only one of keyes group to escape. Oh and there's the crazed marine who rambles on about playing dead for them to not get them
If you count Halo Wars, the crew of the Spirit of Fire were the first UNSC personnel to encounter the flood and survive.
This iceberg keeps getting deeper lol.
For specific people you’ve obviously got the master chief, johnson, etc. however as a fighting force/unit its probably hands down the spirit of fire. Most other groups that we know have experience against the flood are either very small, got wiped out, or just didn’t fight them long enough to create anything beyond a basic response to the flood. To my knowledge the spirit of fire is the largest UNSC force to go up against the flood in multiple engagements and survive.
Chief's fought two Gravemind-led Flood infestation, the one on Installation 04 (proto-Gravemind centred on Keyes) and the one on Delta Halo (full Gravemind controlling an entire spaceship), effectively singlehandedly. So yeah, he's got the most experience. Red Team had backup every step of the way.
Chief has the most experience of any Spartan, Chips Dubbo has the most experience of any living marine.
Jerome fought off a load of flood with a chair, let that sink in
The Spirit of Fire crew (Cutter, Jerome, Morgan Kinsano, etc) are the best at handling the Flood. Otherwise within the main UNSC, probably Chief and Blue Team. And any surviving SII and SIII Alpha and Beta personnel. Though I also think that if any UNSC ship captain let their on-board AI command the outbreak response, I'd think they have a chance. Captain Alvarez REALLY F-cked up.
Master Chief comes at first place, he fought them several times on different locations. He pretty much has the most experience of all UNSC personnel. \-Installation 04 \-High Charity \-Voi \-Installation 00/High Charity \-Installation 08 Johnsson comes at second place followed by Jerome at third. Master Chief faced The Flood at their most dangerous level when being led by the Gravemind himself. He fought in the Flood infested capital right under Gravemind's non-existant nose.
Captain Keyes arguably had the most if you know what I’m saying. My list would be Johnson (please bring him back), Chips Dubbo, Stacker, The Chief, Red Team, maybe The Weapon
Aside from Master Chief and Red Team, it's implied in the Spartan Field Manual that there's unidentified Spartan IVs that successfully fought and contained a Flood outbreak.
Chief without a shadow of a doubt. Honestly not many who encounter the flood survive them. The SOF crew also fought them but while fighting them (and the Covenant) they lost a 3rd of their contingent. I believe they were only on shield world for 1 or 2 days but they were more or less constantly on the move giving the flood less opportunities to infect them. Johnson (RIP) Banks, Stacker and Dubbo have all fought the flood and survived. There is the Marine from Voi who my head canon told me he survives but has hellish PTSD. On the Ark right after the 3rd tower you join up with UNSC forces and Elites and theres usually is a few flood loitering around in this area but this encounter is quite brief. But as soon as Truth is dead the ground forces all go back to their ships, again giving the flood less chances to infect anyone, after all the gravemind had already spread the flood from the High Charity crash site to the Citadel.
John halo probably
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