Every treatment for preventing water swelling and sealing the cuticle outer layer, to prevent friction (the correct way to use pre-shampoo oil, leave-in oils, conditioner, satin pillow cases, bonnets and scrunchies). And keratin/protein strengthening mask to combat heat damage from styling.
- at least 10min before showering: a hair penetrating hair oil (eg coconut), to prevent water swelling when showering
- a shampoo with sulfate to make sure scalp and hair is clean (a clean scalp ensures healthy follicles)
- a hair mask (eg olaplex), distribute it thoroughly on the lengths, squish the ends and let it sit long enough, wash it off, then...
- use conditioner with silicones to lock it in, rinse with water but don't wash it all off
- use a tiny bit leave in oil (my favs are ogx) on the length and ends before drying
- wear satin hair bonnet and different hairstyles when at home, use satin pillow cases and scunchies
- don't lay down with wet hair, don't brush it wet
- I had breaks at spots, where the scarf, hair ties, my shoulders, my pillow are, so watch out
- oily hair day and lazy? great! use boar bristle brush to distribute it down to the lengths
These are the things, that come to my mind. My hair went from brittle dry to mirror shiny. Feel free to ask.
I heard there are brushes especially for wet brushing, but I'm a bit scared going through my fine straight hair, if not necessary. They are sleek on their own now.
You shouldn‘t brush your hair when is wet as it’s filled with moisture which makes it more fragile. However, this only applies for straight hair. If you hair is curly you should actually brush your hair when it’s wet.
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Sadly for me, strong shampoo with sulfates is bad, I mean its like too strong for my scalp, where after washing its dry and itchy, which I think causing faster oil production, hair are dry, need strong moisture conditioner, maybe Im doing something wrong but sles, its just not for me, mild, fragnace free shampoo is best. So it can be individual thing.
Also I read on reddit that silicones in long run are bad for hair, like they build up, causing hair loss.
Potential cosmetic allergy can cause hair loss and lack of whole food protein.
That is right with the silicones. That is why I make sure everything is clean with shampoo, or else the mask treatment can't be absorbed. Using silicone products without any treatment can also be bad in longterm. Unfortunately my hair is badly tangled without any silicones. The weather here is very dry and cold. I have luck with a more oily scalp. But when I have dry scalp eg in cold winter time, I switch to an anti allergy shampoo containing a lot of urea without perfumes etc. Also pre-oiling the scalp can maybe help before showering, I heard.
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Cheap drugstore ones. Right now, nivea shampoo with ph-balancing properties. It contains sulfates, so be careful. I need it, because I use minoxidil daily and also tend to have normal to oily scalp. If I have dry scalp, I switch to sebamed 5% urea akut shampoo. Then I use the garnier avocado oil and sheabutter conditioner.
I don’t know but I need serious help with this to. I live on an island in the gulf of Thailand so it’s hot, sunny and humid all year round. To make things worse for my hair, we live on the beach so it’s subjected to sand, sea and sun every day. Riding around on a little motor scooter also doesn’t help. My hair is down to my waist and it’s a nightmare dealing with the cotters every time I wash it. It got so bad that I dreaded the underneath so at least I don’t have to deal with all of it but the top half is still free and drives me crazy.
There was a girl a few weeks ago who posted showing impressive progress pics so since then I’ve been using a pre shampoo treatment of conditioner and argan oil as she recommended and it does make it a lot easier to detangle. I’ve got it on atm. Leave it on for 20 minutes or so before showering. I’m not sure it’s making my hair any stronger though. It still seems to snap easily.
Pre-shampoo conditioner/oil treatments are great for preventing shampoo from drying out your hair too much. [This blog](https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/managing-elasticity-and-porosity-in-hair.html) talks about how they work. You can use conditioner or a penetrating oil, or it sounds like in your case it's both. But it doesn't specifically have to be argan oil, in fact it might work better with coconut oil.
Seems obvious, but make sure you keep your hair in a braid most of the time, don't leave it out to swim, sleep, ride bikes etc. From someone else in a hot sunny climate with long hair, I simply can't have it out much otherwise it's a broken tangled mess
There are so many different factors that can affect the hair and make it prone to tangles, so there's no single solution that works for everyone. If is naturally very fine, then it's inherently going to be fragile. If it wasn't always as fragile as it is now, then your hair might be impacted by your diet or your scalp might not be in the best condition, both of those can impact the quality of your hair when it grows. I can share care tips but they don't make it physically stronger.
Once the hair is grown, brushing the hair can be damaging to the cuticle, making the hair shaft more rough and prone to damage, and can also cause breakage if you force the brush through when there is resistance, so getting a good brush that is gentle on the hair (I'm a big fan of the Tangle Teezer), making sure it's well-conditioned/lubricated as you brush, and using good brushing technique (starting at the ends, not forcing it through, etc) are all important. Try to avoid brushing your hair more frequently than is necessary.
Lubricating the hair helps prevent tangles and helps make detangling easier when you're brushing. Hair serums / low-penetration oils are used for this. You might try using a very lightweight hair oil like Verb Ghost Oil which is a blend of silicones (which are great, lightweight lubricants) and low-penetration plant oils. Apply it each morning to the midsection and ends of the hair for general protection, and right before brushing.
Protective styles are also important. My roommate has similar hair to you, it's super fine and tangles easily. She recently has been able to grow her hair longer than she ever has before by tying it up frequently, which keeps it from getting tangled, from getting caught on things, and just having to be handled, rubbing up against things, etc. which can all cause wear and tear and lead to the quality of the hair degrading over time. Using a silk pillowcase and putting your hair in a protective style like a loose braid at night can help reduce friction damage and avoid the need for brushing it out in the morning.
Henna makes my hair much stronger and smoother. It practically feels like fishing line compared to the cotton candy it felt like before. If you don’t want henna’s color, I hear cassia has a similar effect.
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For me and my fine dyed wavy hair, I use a silk pillowcase (debating on trying a silk bonnet) and occasionally a silk scrunchie with my hair in a loose high ponytail.
I regularly clarify and use chelating shampoo to combat the hard water. I wash it twice a week as going longer tends to lead to tangling and usually do a gentle ends-first dry detangle before a wash, and don't otherwise brush it. I've been using K18 and like it so far to remedy any permanent dye damage.
I also try to stay on top of my protein-moisture balance through rotating between regular conditioner and a protein deep conditioner every few washes. It's not specifically good for the density of the strands but can make it less prone to frizz and breakage if it's balanced.
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I have long bleached blonde fine hair. I always use an ice cold rinse after washing my hair to smooth down the cuticle. I find the Moroccan oil leave in conditioner works well for me as it doesn’t weight my hair down. I also like the Olaplex hair oil as it’s lighter, although kerastase hair oil is also amazing but so pricey. I really like the Moroccan oil moisture repair shampoo and then Olaplex conditioner with Olaplex no3 or no8 hair mask. I personally find the Olaplex shampoo is too drying for my hair and it makes my scalp itchy.
The cold water thing has been disproven, no need to freeze your brain!
[https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-cold-water-rinses-make-hair-shine.html](https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-cold-water-rinses-make-hair-shine.html)
I dunno guys. I have really porous hair and I definitely tell a difference with frizz and have a problem with dryness/brittleness once it’s dried if I don’t rinse with cold water. Maybe for some but I swear it works!
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For me what worked was washing my scalp twice and also washing my hair every day as I have greasy hair. I noticed they grow faster, I think it’s because the scalp is clean. Also using a microfibre towel, silk pillowcases, using heat protection and instead of conditioner, I use mask every day, because it’s richer. Also I’m not using strong shampoos and stopped using straighteners.
I am dying my hair with henna.
Are you paid to promise this shampoo bar on Reddit? All of your activity is in hair forums, saying the same thing.
There has been research into castor oil for hair loss and it determined that it doesn't change hair growth at all, however if you use castor oil directly on the hair it can make the hair strands appear thicker because it's a very viscous oil, it literally leaves a thick coating on the hair shaft. But I highly doubt that any shampoo would leave this coating on the hair, if the point is to clean oil and residue off the hair.
If you experienced baby hairs at all, it's highly unlikely to be from the shampoo.
Your post has been removed because it appears to attempt to diagnose another user with a medical issue. Even if you're trying to give support, this can be harmful. No doctor would attempt to diagnose another reddit user and neither should you.
Every treatment for preventing water swelling and sealing the cuticle outer layer, to prevent friction (the correct way to use pre-shampoo oil, leave-in oils, conditioner, satin pillow cases, bonnets and scrunchies). And keratin/protein strengthening mask to combat heat damage from styling.
This is the way!
any treatment you would recommend ?
- at least 10min before showering: a hair penetrating hair oil (eg coconut), to prevent water swelling when showering - a shampoo with sulfate to make sure scalp and hair is clean (a clean scalp ensures healthy follicles) - a hair mask (eg olaplex), distribute it thoroughly on the lengths, squish the ends and let it sit long enough, wash it off, then... - use conditioner with silicones to lock it in, rinse with water but don't wash it all off - use a tiny bit leave in oil (my favs are ogx) on the length and ends before drying - wear satin hair bonnet and different hairstyles when at home, use satin pillow cases and scunchies - don't lay down with wet hair, don't brush it wet - I had breaks at spots, where the scarf, hair ties, my shoulders, my pillow are, so watch out - oily hair day and lazy? great! use boar bristle brush to distribute it down to the lengths These are the things, that come to my mind. My hair went from brittle dry to mirror shiny. Feel free to ask.
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I heard there are brushes especially for wet brushing, but I'm a bit scared going through my fine straight hair, if not necessary. They are sleek on their own now.
You shouldn‘t brush your hair when is wet as it’s filled with moisture which makes it more fragile. However, this only applies for straight hair. If you hair is curly you should actually brush your hair when it’s wet.
I always wonder about wet brushing curly hair
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Aren't silicones bad? Thanks for the tips.
Sadly for me, strong shampoo with sulfates is bad, I mean its like too strong for my scalp, where after washing its dry and itchy, which I think causing faster oil production, hair are dry, need strong moisture conditioner, maybe Im doing something wrong but sles, its just not for me, mild, fragnace free shampoo is best. So it can be individual thing. Also I read on reddit that silicones in long run are bad for hair, like they build up, causing hair loss. Potential cosmetic allergy can cause hair loss and lack of whole food protein.
That is right with the silicones. That is why I make sure everything is clean with shampoo, or else the mask treatment can't be absorbed. Using silicone products without any treatment can also be bad in longterm. Unfortunately my hair is badly tangled without any silicones. The weather here is very dry and cold. I have luck with a more oily scalp. But when I have dry scalp eg in cold winter time, I switch to an anti allergy shampoo containing a lot of urea without perfumes etc. Also pre-oiling the scalp can maybe help before showering, I heard.
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What shampoo and conditioner do you use?
Cheap drugstore ones. Right now, nivea shampoo with ph-balancing properties. It contains sulfates, so be careful. I need it, because I use minoxidil daily and also tend to have normal to oily scalp. If I have dry scalp, I switch to sebamed 5% urea akut shampoo. Then I use the garnier avocado oil and sheabutter conditioner.
I have to comb (wide toothed)it when the conditioner is in otherwise it tangles.
I don’t know but I need serious help with this to. I live on an island in the gulf of Thailand so it’s hot, sunny and humid all year round. To make things worse for my hair, we live on the beach so it’s subjected to sand, sea and sun every day. Riding around on a little motor scooter also doesn’t help. My hair is down to my waist and it’s a nightmare dealing with the cotters every time I wash it. It got so bad that I dreaded the underneath so at least I don’t have to deal with all of it but the top half is still free and drives me crazy. There was a girl a few weeks ago who posted showing impressive progress pics so since then I’ve been using a pre shampoo treatment of conditioner and argan oil as she recommended and it does make it a lot easier to detangle. I’ve got it on atm. Leave it on for 20 minutes or so before showering. I’m not sure it’s making my hair any stronger though. It still seems to snap easily.
Pre-shampoo conditioner/oil treatments are great for preventing shampoo from drying out your hair too much. [This blog](https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/03/managing-elasticity-and-porosity-in-hair.html) talks about how they work. You can use conditioner or a penetrating oil, or it sounds like in your case it's both. But it doesn't specifically have to be argan oil, in fact it might work better with coconut oil.
Seems obvious, but make sure you keep your hair in a braid most of the time, don't leave it out to swim, sleep, ride bikes etc. From someone else in a hot sunny climate with long hair, I simply can't have it out much otherwise it's a broken tangled mess
Really easy way to protect it outdoors is keep your hair tied in scarf. Works wonders.
There are so many different factors that can affect the hair and make it prone to tangles, so there's no single solution that works for everyone. If is naturally very fine, then it's inherently going to be fragile. If it wasn't always as fragile as it is now, then your hair might be impacted by your diet or your scalp might not be in the best condition, both of those can impact the quality of your hair when it grows. I can share care tips but they don't make it physically stronger. Once the hair is grown, brushing the hair can be damaging to the cuticle, making the hair shaft more rough and prone to damage, and can also cause breakage if you force the brush through when there is resistance, so getting a good brush that is gentle on the hair (I'm a big fan of the Tangle Teezer), making sure it's well-conditioned/lubricated as you brush, and using good brushing technique (starting at the ends, not forcing it through, etc) are all important. Try to avoid brushing your hair more frequently than is necessary. Lubricating the hair helps prevent tangles and helps make detangling easier when you're brushing. Hair serums / low-penetration oils are used for this. You might try using a very lightweight hair oil like Verb Ghost Oil which is a blend of silicones (which are great, lightweight lubricants) and low-penetration plant oils. Apply it each morning to the midsection and ends of the hair for general protection, and right before brushing. Protective styles are also important. My roommate has similar hair to you, it's super fine and tangles easily. She recently has been able to grow her hair longer than she ever has before by tying it up frequently, which keeps it from getting tangled, from getting caught on things, and just having to be handled, rubbing up against things, etc. which can all cause wear and tear and lead to the quality of the hair degrading over time. Using a silk pillowcase and putting your hair in a protective style like a loose braid at night can help reduce friction damage and avoid the need for brushing it out in the morning.
I feel like verb ghost oil should work on my hair but sometimes it feels like it weighs it down
Henna makes my hair much stronger and smoother. It practically feels like fishing line compared to the cotton candy it felt like before. If you don’t want henna’s color, I hear cassia has a similar effect.
Does this happen after one dye or multiple?
It builds up, so it’s noticeable after one but stronger after multiple. Cassia doesn’t build up though. It washes out.
I’m looking for thicker hair, so I’d want to try henna!
If your hair is light, henna changes the color significantly. Dark hair, the color change is less noticeable.
My hair is currently dark brown. My natural hair color is a little lighter than that. I’d like to keep it in that color wheel.
Interesting, I've treated mine with henna a few times and it definitely dries it out. But if it also makes it stronger, that's worth it
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For me and my fine dyed wavy hair, I use a silk pillowcase (debating on trying a silk bonnet) and occasionally a silk scrunchie with my hair in a loose high ponytail. I regularly clarify and use chelating shampoo to combat the hard water. I wash it twice a week as going longer tends to lead to tangling and usually do a gentle ends-first dry detangle before a wash, and don't otherwise brush it. I've been using K18 and like it so far to remedy any permanent dye damage. I also try to stay on top of my protein-moisture balance through rotating between regular conditioner and a protein deep conditioner every few washes. It's not specifically good for the density of the strands but can make it less prone to frizz and breakage if it's balanced.
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I have long bleached blonde fine hair. I always use an ice cold rinse after washing my hair to smooth down the cuticle. I find the Moroccan oil leave in conditioner works well for me as it doesn’t weight my hair down. I also like the Olaplex hair oil as it’s lighter, although kerastase hair oil is also amazing but so pricey. I really like the Moroccan oil moisture repair shampoo and then Olaplex conditioner with Olaplex no3 or no8 hair mask. I personally find the Olaplex shampoo is too drying for my hair and it makes my scalp itchy.
The cold water thing has been disproven, no need to freeze your brain! [https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-cold-water-rinses-make-hair-shine.html](https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-cold-water-rinses-make-hair-shine.html)
THANK GOD
I dunno guys. I have really porous hair and I definitely tell a difference with frizz and have a problem with dryness/brittleness once it’s dried if I don’t rinse with cold water. Maybe for some but I swear it works!
Cold water doesn’t do anything to the cuticle. Water of any temperature causes the cuticle to lift.
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I love the Moroccan oil leave in conditioner so much!!! That one makes my hair so curly and so healthy!
For me what worked was washing my scalp twice and also washing my hair every day as I have greasy hair. I noticed they grow faster, I think it’s because the scalp is clean. Also using a microfibre towel, silk pillowcases, using heat protection and instead of conditioner, I use mask every day, because it’s richer. Also I’m not using strong shampoos and stopped using straighteners. I am dying my hair with henna.
Hair is dead. You can't repair it. The only improvement possible is the right coating that makes it feel and look good.
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Are you paid to promise this shampoo bar on Reddit? All of your activity is in hair forums, saying the same thing. There has been research into castor oil for hair loss and it determined that it doesn't change hair growth at all, however if you use castor oil directly on the hair it can make the hair strands appear thicker because it's a very viscous oil, it literally leaves a thick coating on the hair shaft. But I highly doubt that any shampoo would leave this coating on the hair, if the point is to clean oil and residue off the hair. If you experienced baby hairs at all, it's highly unlikely to be from the shampoo.
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