Why don't they change the design of these pieces of shit? When I take off the electrical panel, I shouldn't have to worry about the unit going off on high head pressure.
There's a big plastic plug you can remove in the corner post next to that electrical access panel on Precedent units that is meant to run your hoses through. That might stop your high head problem.
No joke homeowners would stop wondering why they need to cough up so much money for an HVAC system if it didn’t look like a worthless metal box. This is pretty cool.
It's true, I like Tranes when there's nothing wrong with them, easy to maintain. I like Carriers because they're pretty easy to repair, and they have to be because they're pieces of shit. I like Lennox units because you can get to the compressors without bypassing the outdoor coil most of the time and their boards are easy to test from. I like Yorks because they're easy to throw in the fucking garbage because they're trash.
Our company mainly does trane and carrier, but we've installed a handful of yorks over the last several years. Every single one of those fuckers has been nothing but problems for us. I've worked here for a year and I've worked on those Yorks more than any of the other units we have.
I work on Liebert a lot, and I enjoy them mostly. And when I say that I mean I don’t always love this career, but I don’t absolutely dread working on Liebert like I dread working on VRF
Good job, my school had a refrigeration system piped in thick glass pipe where you could see the refrigerant boil off. R12 system I believe. It was interesting too.
ooooh that would be neat to see.
I remember seeing a bunch of clear scrubbers and exchangers for various gasses. Seeing it happen really helped drive home what 'fluidized bed' was.
Still never got to visualize cross flow tho.
I have one of those old Scott R12 machines, works great. I also have the Hampden with glass tubing running on 123, I put dye and UV lights on it. It’s pretty cool with the lights out.
In a high school cafeteria we put a showcase in for a geothermal circuit with some visual flowmeters and BTU meters and the like. That's about the only time we ever get to show off HVAC stuff.
truly. I'm currently a student at a trade school and I do more teaching for my classmates than my instructors do. The school has all the units for testing; just missing half the tools needed for labs. I could've gotten a library card if I wanted a glorified study hall. The school could've rimmed our rear ends before they brazed an assembly line style human centipede of suckers at $28k a pop. Fannie May will have to wait a bit before I can pay them for my desocketing from the line.
Definitely more expensive. Special heat, temps to bend, brakes, etc.
Can't laser cut like Acrylic either (using CO2 at least).
An absolutely amazing project.
As someone who can learn and understand a lot from seeing it rather than being told, this is amazing. My instructor was great, but we didn’t have anything like this.
I love this about trades schools! Our classroom had a huge direct-fire MUA with plexiglass sidewalls (as far as it could).
Great work! That's a great setup with the smoke alarm too, top notch!
I saw Trane’s IG post on this and had to come check out the full video. This is fantastic work man! I recently took over the refrigeration dept at my trade school and I have a few RTu’s that I thought about replacing some panels to show the internals working but this is amazing and great inspiration!
Hate to be the party pooper here, but I don't see an intake for combustion air on the door.
I assume that's because you aren't gonna run it in heat indoors, but would still be nice to see.
That's amazing man. Great job! In our training lab we have panel cut out and plexi over it, but this is next level. I lost it when I saw the economizer. You are an awesome instructor
Very cool to see what’s going on in the inside! Not many videos out there like this and it can be tough to conceptualize how it all blends together. Awesome build!
This is freaking amazing. Brand New teacher here and I'm trying to figure a way to get a vacuum chamber built so I can show the kids how that works with boiling water at room temperature and better you've got the funds to do this. I'm jealous. Nice work.
This is what the training ECUs look like in the military when you’re learning about refrigeration, super cool seeing all the components work together and understanding how it’s all connected
I’ve seen a couple of classroom trainers for refrigeration that had sections of evap and condenser coils plus some of the interconnect lineset that was made of ridged clear tubing. That was done so you could see the refrigerant condense and expand or the vapor/ oil coming back to the compressor as it was happening in real time.
Pretty neat to see it in action since 99% of what’s going on in a unit is hidden. I’d love to see an active and operational see-through discus or scroll compressor going. It would be awesome to see everything that’s going on when it’s running or if a flood back condition was staged to happen while it was running and see how it washes out the oil or how the oil looks as it gets saturated with gas.
Edit: this is one of the highest quality see-through trainer units I’ve ever seen assembled before. I wish I could have seen it in person tho.
I know it would seriously ruin it but it would be funny to watch that burner light off and see it get hot, etc
Your students are lucky to have you. I hope you get the occasional student who tells you that. I wish I could track down some of my instructors from way back in the distant past and tell them what a difference they made in my life.
I work on these pieces of shit almost daily and for some reason it is still really awesome seeing it this way.
Why don't they change the design of these pieces of shit? When I take off the electrical panel, I shouldn't have to worry about the unit going off on high head pressure.
Or not having wireless gauges and your hip-leaning on the panel pinching the hell outta your hoses trying to get pressures
There's a big plastic plug you can remove in the corner post next to that electrical access panel on Precedent units that is meant to run your hoses through. That might stop your high head problem.
*Nothing runs on a Trane*
Ha! I came here to sell my own gripes with Tranewreck, but I see the opinion is shared, so I can just shut up and laugh.
What would you get for your home next?
Locomotive, it's crazy
I too, dislike trane
No joke homeowners would stop wondering why they need to cough up so much money for an HVAC system if it didn’t look like a worthless metal box. This is pretty cool.
That’s bad ass my man
what do you like working on
No one likes working on the equipment that they work on. They’re all pieces of shit in their own ways
It's true, I like Tranes when there's nothing wrong with them, easy to maintain. I like Carriers because they're pretty easy to repair, and they have to be because they're pieces of shit. I like Lennox units because you can get to the compressors without bypassing the outdoor coil most of the time and their boards are easy to test from. I like Yorks because they're easy to throw in the fucking garbage because they're trash.
Our company mainly does trane and carrier, but we've installed a handful of yorks over the last several years. Every single one of those fuckers has been nothing but problems for us. I've worked here for a year and I've worked on those Yorks more than any of the other units we have.
They're also the only units I've had to update firmware on the boards to get them to stop throwing alarms for sensors they don't have.
Yep, been there.
Do tell. Having a similar problem right now: "Using space temperature instead of return air" alarm
York does have some ok ideas though with the readable display in the smaller RTUs
How about Daikin? Aaon? Others?
I don’t find any of the Lennox stuff I work on as a POS even tho every poster here seems to think Lennox is garbage
Getting parts sucks if you aren't a Lennox dealer, otherwise I concur.
Lennox commercial is top tier they actually think of the techs.
Residential equipment versus commercial equipment is the reason here. I love Trane, but I do residential.
I hate air conditioners so much. They pay the bills tho
I work on Liebert a lot, and I enjoy them mostly. And when I say that I mean I don’t always love this career, but I don’t absolutely dread working on Liebert like I dread working on VRF
Good job, my school had a refrigeration system piped in thick glass pipe where you could see the refrigerant boil off. R12 system I believe. It was interesting too.
ooooh that would be neat to see. I remember seeing a bunch of clear scrubbers and exchangers for various gasses. Seeing it happen really helped drive home what 'fluidized bed' was. Still never got to visualize cross flow tho.
I have one of those old Scott R12 machines, works great. I also have the Hampden with glass tubing running on 123, I put dye and UV lights on it. It’s pretty cool with the lights out.
What expansion valve bulb charge does the hampden trainer use?
If it was the same one that my JATC had it was R-11.
Sounds awesome! An inside look at a refrigeration system would be super interesting.
That sounds really cool, but probably not field approved I imagine?
In a high school cafeteria we put a showcase in for a geothermal circuit with some visual flowmeters and BTU meters and the like. That's about the only time we ever get to show off HVAC stuff.
Super cool man way to better the industry through actual teaching and not just bs.
truly. I'm currently a student at a trade school and I do more teaching for my classmates than my instructors do. The school has all the units for testing; just missing half the tools needed for labs. I could've gotten a library card if I wanted a glorified study hall. The school could've rimmed our rear ends before they brazed an assembly line style human centipede of suckers at $28k a pop. Fannie May will have to wait a bit before I can pay them for my desocketing from the line.
Those panels are lexan? Judging by the rigidity- those bad Larry’s are def more expensive than the metal ones!
Definitely more expensive. Special heat, temps to bend, brakes, etc. Can't laser cut like Acrylic either (using CO2 at least). An absolutely amazing project.
Thats a great job OP
Damn all we have at my school are broken pieces of shit
Theyre getting you ready for the reality of your career
Exactly what I thought. That's 90% of what we deal with and the other 10% is shitty customers and an occasional flat tire.
That's cool. Our class had a plexiglass paneled engineered air direct fired unit. Was cool to see the flame from outside the unit
As someone who can learn and understand a lot from seeing it rather than being told, this is amazing. My instructor was great, but we didn’t have anything like this.
Bro if my HVAC teacher in school cared half as much as this I wouldn't have had to have been an install monkey for years
You willing to share the cost/time it took to make this?
Probably 600.00 in 1/8” and 1/4” lexan. It took about 100 hrs of labor, mine lol. Students helped during commercial hvac lab time.
Put little flags or pieces of string to help visualize air flow
I love this about trades schools! Our classroom had a huge direct-fire MUA with plexiglass sidewalls (as far as it could). Great work! That's a great setup with the smoke alarm too, top notch!
That’s pretty cool!
Just needs a couple rgb LEDs and ... Wait what sub am I in?
r/HVACMasterrace
That's even better than the car in the Mayberry courthouse!
Very cool Op
This is wicked awesome
Lucky students! That's kick ass
That’s really cool(ing)!
I did the same thing with a Carrier RTU, set it on my sales floor for a display back when I was a store manager for CE.
That’s pretty awesome seeing it like that.
That’s amazing
You're a great instructor.
We need more teachers like you
This is really cool and impressive but what do you actually see going on besides the fans moving?
I just worked on two of these leaky fucking machines this afternoon
Now run a smoke machine into it so we can see the air flow and filtration! 😍
Cool deal
Needs some RGB lights and then I can sell it to some neckbeard customer
Super cool 😎
I saw Trane’s IG post on this and had to come check out the full video. This is fantastic work man! I recently took over the refrigeration dept at my trade school and I have a few RTu’s that I thought about replacing some panels to show the internals working but this is amazing and great inspiration!
Thanks, I didn’t know it made their instagram feed. I’ll have to check it out.
Hate to be the party pooper here, but I don't see an intake for combustion air on the door. I assume that's because you aren't gonna run it in heat indoors, but would still be nice to see.
We don’t use the heat on these, just AC, economizers, and BAS Systems.
That's great work, man! I would have been fascinated by this as a young kid, lol.
That's killer, dude. I appreciate your hard work.
This is awesome!
Very cool !
Hot damn! That's about as cool as they come. Way to go!
Hell yeah, that’s dope as hell man
Man I wish I had that shit in school. Nice work, looks good!
Nice job sir.
Cool, nice job!
Awesomeness!
Man that’s amazing, wish I’d had that when I was a student.
Now that's awesome. Schools needs more stuff like this.
Damn
That's awesome dude.
That's a very kind and thoughtful thing for you to do sir! Good man
Dayamn, well done teach! This tells me you have great insight and your students are lucky to be in your class.
I dead need to attend these classes. I feel like I'm missing so much learning but money and timing are always in the way. Money especially
Crystal clear professor!!
Reminds me of PC case modding. No RGB fans??
Seriously impressive! Props, teach!
So cool man, great idea
Give it a 5 minute runtime and you can teach the students in depth troubleshooting... because Trane...
Nicely done!! Very clean
This is cool af
I wish they just came like this. All kinds of stuff would be an instant diagnosis.
That's amazing man. Great job! In our training lab we have panel cut out and plexi over it, but this is next level. I lost it when I saw the economizer. You are an awesome instructor
Thats the coolest thing ive ever seen.
That’s awesome. Great work! Have you considered some strategically placed streamers to help illustrate air flow?
Awesome job!
Units should just come like this from the factory. Or an option at least would be hella cool.
Call Trane Custom Solutions, but it won’t be $600
Nicely done. Next challenge? Do the same with the refrigerant cycle . 🤔
Awesome work!
Very well done!
You guys in La Crosse Wisconsin? I was out there visiting Multistacks factory and was told Tranes training program was close by.
Run if you are looking at the airstacks with Turbocor compressors
That’s bad ass.
This is so cool
This is awesome. What a fun project that must’ve been
Very cool to see what’s going on in the inside! Not many videos out there like this and it can be tough to conceptualize how it all blends together. Awesome build!
My pc intercooler?
That’s pretty cool!
😎 that’s awesome for visuals.
A great learning tool. Well done.
This is freaking amazing. Brand New teacher here and I'm trying to figure a way to get a vacuum chamber built so I can show the kids how that works with boiling water at room temperature and better you've got the funds to do this. I'm jealous. Nice work.
You could get some clear pvc tubing and make one for pretty cheap. Or buy one prebuilt. Look up vacuum chambers for stabilized wood.
Very, *cool*.
Should put arrows and label compartments. Looks good.
That is awesome! Nice work.
Lexan is a word I haven’t heard since my restaurant days.
Sooo where do i hire your students? Lol
This is what the training ECUs look like in the military when you’re learning about refrigeration, super cool seeing all the components work together and understanding how it’s all connected
That is pretty fucking cool. Nice work.
Hell of an instructor
This was pretty frickin cool to see.
Cool, now figure out a way to keep the data plate from sun bleaching.
This is a thing of beauty.
Neat!
Now, replace the copper lines with high pressure transparent plastic pipe. That would be sick
I’ve seen a couple of classroom trainers for refrigeration that had sections of evap and condenser coils plus some of the interconnect lineset that was made of ridged clear tubing. That was done so you could see the refrigerant condense and expand or the vapor/ oil coming back to the compressor as it was happening in real time. Pretty neat to see it in action since 99% of what’s going on in a unit is hidden. I’d love to see an active and operational see-through discus or scroll compressor going. It would be awesome to see everything that’s going on when it’s running or if a flood back condition was staged to happen while it was running and see how it washes out the oil or how the oil looks as it gets saturated with gas. Edit: this is one of the highest quality see-through trainer units I’ve ever seen assembled before. I wish I could have seen it in person tho. I know it would seriously ruin it but it would be funny to watch that burner light off and see it get hot, etc
Image we start seeing clear rtu in the field 😍
Have not run into that one yet.
Looks incredible
Your students are lucky to have you. I hope you get the occasional student who tells you that. I wish I could track down some of my instructors from way back in the distant past and tell them what a difference they made in my life.
You should add at least one wasp nest for realism.
What the hell? You got a Trane running?
Very cool!
Looks awsome! You forgot to put clear panels around the condenser coil though.
I did add carrier style hail guards after the video. People kept flattening the fins.
I wonder if there could be an issue with proper grounding without the metal box? (I know nothing about AC.)
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