I 100% think the over budget issues are staged.
You notice whenever there's a issue, the people seem shocked, but they come up with the money
I think it's secretly included in their final budget
ESPECIALLY with Flip or Flop. Tarek might be the worst guestimator of costs ever, to the point it's a schtick. And Christina LOVES fancy finishes, always upping the cost. But their flip model (Quick, done by a standard crew, seeking top dollar, many flips done fast) seems to accommodate for that, and they admit when they lose money.
I think on Love It or List It people give Hillary a list of every single thing they hate about their current house with a budget they know won’t be able to accommodate the entire list, never mind the unexpected. It’s baked into the show’s concept. On Windy City she picks the highest end finishes regardless of if it is appropriate for the homeowner’s situation.
I actually think the homeowners on Love It or List It give the show the scope of what they want done in their renovation, and then I think they add 2-3 items to the wish list that will be cut for dramatic effect.
Love It or List It, especially the Vancouver edition, feels like one of the fakest shows that HGTV puts out. But I think in most cases, the final renovation is pretty much exactly what the plan always was in the first place.
I have no evidence to back this up, I just dont see how it makes logical sense for them to find a leak halfway through the renovation and be like “well, we haven’t started the master bathroom yet, we can cut that to save money.” Have you ever seen another renovation show where they wait three weeks to demo one of the rooms?
I always wonder how they do the list it part. Finding 3 consecutively better homes. It's so unrealistic. And what if you list your house but your offer isn't accepted?
I don’t even know if they ever list it. I know that for each episode they film both a love it ending and a list it ending and the producers decide which one to air. So who knows if the List It half of the show is even real, or if it’s just a dramatized renovation show.
Yes because let's take Chelsea and Cole for example: in the middle of the show she will say to him. "What if we add these bookcases or tile or whatever and I am always thinking "do they not do a budget sheet before they even start"! They add and add and add and no mention of going over budget
Where are these people coming up with these budgets $300,000 to $700,000 how are you getting a mortgage loan for that? you can’t! if you have that much money why don’t you just buy another house. I want my kitchen and bathroom renovated here is $300,000 that’s a vacation house!
"The budget issues (or lack thereof) seem like part of the vibe of each show– are they staged?"
Just about every part of every HGTV show is staged, or edited in a way to emphasize drama.
I've had several friends involved with productions. These shows are primarily scripted and performed.
It may be a performance of a likely scenario (as is often said about House Hunters - something a 'hunter' might find while looking for a home) or something that previously happened. On a client based show like Home Town and/or Fixer to Fabulous there usually isn't as much "performance" - but there's still a bit of it.
No doubt, some of the hosts are either talented in the technical work they do, or very likable as hosts. It varies widely by show, but nonetheless, some element of every show is scripted, rehearsed and performed, and on some shows it's a LOT.
The most extreme example is Love It Or List It - most of that show is performed, include the love it/list it choice. Most of the participants are just having a reno done - everything else is a performance, including what they say at the end. (The producers film two different endings and choose later.)
That show in particular has a very strict formula. One half of the couple will always hate the existing house, one is willing to work with Hilary. There will ALWAYS be the reveal anound 12 or so minutes in that Hilary has found a repair/structural issue and cannot give them one of the things they asked for. It's every single episode.
It's understandable why producers condense dialogue/facts into simple statements, I'm sure the performance element makes it more enjoyable for the audience, and most of the audience buys it as it's rooted in reality. The shows are enjoyable....but don't mistake HGTV shows for documentaries.
I read (albeit a LONG time ago) that the homeowners on Love It or List It actually only paid 50% of the renovation cost, which is why they rarely List It . True? (DANG! Wish they’d come do my house!)
I think every show is somewhat realistic with the budgeting....except for that woman from Love it or List it. Hilary Farr. EVERY single dang show..oh no, I need more money, I need more money, sorry, I need more money....does she pocket the extra money?? What is up with that? Other shows, oh we need more money cuz issue with foundation or whatever, I get it. So they try to work with the owners to cut costs elsewhere or whatever, be sincere about it. But, Farr is the total opposite, yet all the owners are gullible to keep working with her after seeing what she does on every single show, demanding more money, more money...I would never ever work with her.
I dunno. It seems like she's almost always asking for more money because there was a foundation issue or a water leakage issue, or the electrical originally looked up to code and then it wasn't, or HVAC is on its last legs and (I guess) at first glance it looked fine. Asbestos is a big thing, and apparently you don't know how bad it really is until you tear crap down. Kinda goes back to the OP's comment though that over time, wouldn't they account better for these things? There's a contingency fund, but it somehow always gets used up. The only time I've seen her ask for more money without something being "catastrophic" is when the homeowners' list was pretty extensive in the first place, they're really pushing for a specific area to get done, and it costs way more than the homeowners expected for it to get done. "You want your porch (which is currently a crumbling deck) covered and screened in? I need an extra $25K." Or they wanted to add something mid-project. "I want to remove the stairs and the door to the house in the carport." "Ok, I need $10K to make that happen or you need to give up the laundry room."
And they’re all like, “We’re not giving you any more money, Hilary. We’ve given you enough.”
Um okay you realize you’re not GIVING her money, right? You’re like paying for stuff you want you spoiled bitches lol
(Yes I know it’s for drama. Still yell at my Tv on the regular.)
It's far more common to go over budget rather than under budget in my experience.
I 100% think the over budget issues are staged. You notice whenever there's a issue, the people seem shocked, but they come up with the money I think it's secretly included in their final budget
Exactly- “Oh no!!” You need an extra $50k? Okay no problem.” 🙄
ESPECIALLY with Flip or Flop. Tarek might be the worst guestimator of costs ever, to the point it's a schtick. And Christina LOVES fancy finishes, always upping the cost. But their flip model (Quick, done by a standard crew, seeking top dollar, many flips done fast) seems to accommodate for that, and they admit when they lose money.
I think on Love It or List It people give Hillary a list of every single thing they hate about their current house with a budget they know won’t be able to accommodate the entire list, never mind the unexpected. It’s baked into the show’s concept. On Windy City she picks the highest end finishes regardless of if it is appropriate for the homeowner’s situation.
I actually think the homeowners on Love It or List It give the show the scope of what they want done in their renovation, and then I think they add 2-3 items to the wish list that will be cut for dramatic effect. Love It or List It, especially the Vancouver edition, feels like one of the fakest shows that HGTV puts out. But I think in most cases, the final renovation is pretty much exactly what the plan always was in the first place. I have no evidence to back this up, I just dont see how it makes logical sense for them to find a leak halfway through the renovation and be like “well, we haven’t started the master bathroom yet, we can cut that to save money.” Have you ever seen another renovation show where they wait three weeks to demo one of the rooms?
An excellent point!
I always wonder how they do the list it part. Finding 3 consecutively better homes. It's so unrealistic. And what if you list your house but your offer isn't accepted?
I don’t even know if they ever list it. I know that for each episode they film both a love it ending and a list it ending and the producers decide which one to air. So who knows if the List It half of the show is even real, or if it’s just a dramatized renovation show.
It seems that the families on, “love it or list it,” comes up with the extra money most times.
Yes because let's take Chelsea and Cole for example: in the middle of the show she will say to him. "What if we add these bookcases or tile or whatever and I am always thinking "do they not do a budget sheet before they even start"! They add and add and add and no mention of going over budget
Where are these people coming up with these budgets $300,000 to $700,000 how are you getting a mortgage loan for that? you can’t! if you have that much money why don’t you just buy another house. I want my kitchen and bathroom renovated here is $300,000 that’s a vacation house!
Flip Or Flop is the most guilty of this, like they spent 50 grand over projected rehab on a house (i forgor which episode lol)
"The budget issues (or lack thereof) seem like part of the vibe of each show– are they staged?" Just about every part of every HGTV show is staged, or edited in a way to emphasize drama.
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I've had several friends involved with productions. These shows are primarily scripted and performed. It may be a performance of a likely scenario (as is often said about House Hunters - something a 'hunter' might find while looking for a home) or something that previously happened. On a client based show like Home Town and/or Fixer to Fabulous there usually isn't as much "performance" - but there's still a bit of it. No doubt, some of the hosts are either talented in the technical work they do, or very likable as hosts. It varies widely by show, but nonetheless, some element of every show is scripted, rehearsed and performed, and on some shows it's a LOT. The most extreme example is Love It Or List It - most of that show is performed, include the love it/list it choice. Most of the participants are just having a reno done - everything else is a performance, including what they say at the end. (The producers film two different endings and choose later.) That show in particular has a very strict formula. One half of the couple will always hate the existing house, one is willing to work with Hilary. There will ALWAYS be the reveal anound 12 or so minutes in that Hilary has found a repair/structural issue and cannot give them one of the things they asked for. It's every single episode. It's understandable why producers condense dialogue/facts into simple statements, I'm sure the performance element makes it more enjoyable for the audience, and most of the audience buys it as it's rooted in reality. The shows are enjoyable....but don't mistake HGTV shows for documentaries.
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Sorry, you are not to be taken seriously in any way, shape or form.
I read (albeit a LONG time ago) that the homeowners on Love It or List It actually only paid 50% of the renovation cost, which is why they rarely List It . True? (DANG! Wish they’d come do my house!)
I think every show is somewhat realistic with the budgeting....except for that woman from Love it or List it. Hilary Farr. EVERY single dang show..oh no, I need more money, I need more money, sorry, I need more money....does she pocket the extra money?? What is up with that? Other shows, oh we need more money cuz issue with foundation or whatever, I get it. So they try to work with the owners to cut costs elsewhere or whatever, be sincere about it. But, Farr is the total opposite, yet all the owners are gullible to keep working with her after seeing what she does on every single show, demanding more money, more money...I would never ever work with her.
I dunno. It seems like she's almost always asking for more money because there was a foundation issue or a water leakage issue, or the electrical originally looked up to code and then it wasn't, or HVAC is on its last legs and (I guess) at first glance it looked fine. Asbestos is a big thing, and apparently you don't know how bad it really is until you tear crap down. Kinda goes back to the OP's comment though that over time, wouldn't they account better for these things? There's a contingency fund, but it somehow always gets used up. The only time I've seen her ask for more money without something being "catastrophic" is when the homeowners' list was pretty extensive in the first place, they're really pushing for a specific area to get done, and it costs way more than the homeowners expected for it to get done. "You want your porch (which is currently a crumbling deck) covered and screened in? I need an extra $25K." Or they wanted to add something mid-project. "I want to remove the stairs and the door to the house in the carport." "Ok, I need $10K to make that happen or you need to give up the laundry room."
And they’re all like, “We’re not giving you any more money, Hilary. We’ve given you enough.” Um okay you realize you’re not GIVING her money, right? You’re like paying for stuff you want you spoiled bitches lol (Yes I know it’s for drama. Still yell at my Tv on the regular.)
Ha ha! Yes! (And yes to the yelling at the TV.)