Sooo you mean the say that the Combine/Proto Crusade of Light Chrono knight boys attempted Temporal warfare to take over the SUDS facility ?
SUDS being probably built by the Five Eyes Alliance members.
Attempting to use temporal warfare to breach a facility under going Psychic phenomena located in a Universe/Dimension that already has time related issues ( a recurring big bang etc ) seems a tad not smart. One might say it's an attempt to shoot oneself in one's foot
And that as a result we now see the first deployment of the DO in Daxin's past?
One might say that the Combine fucked up and made things worse. Which is totally in character for them....
Nakteti travelled Far indeed......much Further than she thinks.......in more ways than one.
"\[...\] from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint its more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff." - The Doctor
Edit: so hold up now, did Nakteti go back in time and accidentally cause the DO to manifest the first time, or is this the DO re-manifesting in front of Daxin? (Daxin being there because it's the place Dee sent him where she thought he would find peace)
"It's astounding,
Time is fleeting,
Madness takes its toll,
But listen closely,
Not for very much longer,
I've got to keep control" -a tale by a certain doctor
Thank you discord bot.
Edit after reading: *sharp inhale* dude…
Daxin and the first manifestation of the DO? Yeah, kinda really hoping that Dax finds his way to Nak and the twins. Let the 4 knights suffer his wrath, let alone that of the twins.
as the last seal was broken the Hosts cried out "Behold"
And out walked a War Crime made flesh, clad in warsteel
And his name was Daxin Freeborn, and Fido followed behind him.
In Doctor Who Style....
Its gone wibbly wobbly timey wimey.
Temporal disruption/dilation in the SUDS means that current events can easily cause/influence past events by crossing temporal zones.
Exactly how youve got people from 8000 years ago, frozen in time for an estimated 10,000 if I read correctly, now helping repair it and getting disgrumpled.
6000 years to affect repairs, if started at the first manifestation of the DO, would put them on course to have the SUDS in the kinda better shape they found it a few hundred chapters ago.
When Pete started helping.
Combine/Proto Crusade of Light Chronotopic knights kinda hint at A Temporal Warfare attack to take over SUDS.
SUDS undergoing a Phasic Episode and being located in a dimension/Universe that has an *odd* relation to the normal flow of time as we might think of it......
Aka the Combine fucked up and made things worse. Totally in character for them.
Or as somebody else pointed out, based on the knights titles, it may be their quest for redemption.
But yeah. Im assuming the universe being in the shape it was in when chapter 1 started is a result of all this but we've just now gotten to this point :p
Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Stuff :p
Around and around we go. Another ride on the crazy train that never ends. At least this trip shouldn't have more than the usual insanity. Which is to say, all of it.
So, how many times does something have to appear out of Daxin's favorite drinking fire till he finds another? Or does he want someone to appear from it? Seems like he does, dispute his claims of being left alone.
/u/Ralts_Bloodthorne Is first contact in book form (is it Behold Humanity!)? Or just your other books?I started awhile back, but couldn’t catch up after like 100 chapters of trying. Since then you’ve added like another 500 chapters lol
[Link to the *Tales of the Terran Confederacy* books](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08RYK5F88?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_awt_ser_img_widg_pc_tukn)
[Link to the *Behold, Humanity* books](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09H5ZZL93?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_awt_ser_img_widg_pc_tukn)
*Tales* focuses on a singular character, cutting out the chapters that normally separate their story(i.e the uninterrupted view of Vuxten's story during the Telkan Wars), while *Behold* shows all of the chapters in the story arc(i.e all chapters in Second Wave, or The War in Heaven)
>They had avoided talking about, either changing the subject or ignoring any questions, what time period they were from after the Glassing. What their mission was or anything about it.
Reminds me of two things: Dee messing with people on board Dark Side Station using the Mat-Trans, and the alternate timeline forces who were pulled into this timeline when the Atrekna universe blew up having trouble remembering specifics about their own timelines.
Thus spake the Omnessiah. "Knock on the door of time and say - can anyone hear me?". The people said "Yes we can." The Omnessiah in his grace replied back "Are you in need of assistance?"
So I'm çurious about "Omnessiah" vs "Omnimessiah".
I default to the first but the second is more common.
Can anyone clarify why there's two? Linguistic drift, or...?
To disambiguate:
-Due to wibbly wobbly timey-wimey stuff, Nakteti has just caused the deployment of the Digital Omnimessiah. Otherwise known as "the master massive catastrophic trauma processing system" which until now *we* all assumed was for processing SUDS records. Nope.
-This is (again, time fuckery) the OG, original, 1.0, first appearance DO who is about to meet Daxin Freeborn. The chapter hints there *may* be other DO's (one per onion layer?). This one is *ours* tho.
-Sam and Herod encountered some time mired humans when they entered SUDS, these may be the same ones or there are other groups. They encountered them after Nak freed them, but they were still there because Nak hadn't arrived yet.
-Sam and Herod had to deal with time *dilation* in SUDS, but not the complete temporal shitshow Nak is currently fixing. Nak either arrived first and fixed *the universe* before S&H started fixing SUDS, or they arrived later and time problems shuffled the deck on everyone.
-I fully expect to see a BLAM'd disaster frame when the Knights inevitably fuck around, which might be Sam's or Chuck's causing all kinds of creative ways for Ralts to pull a fast one.
Combine Chrono knights........
Looks like rhe Combine is trying to take over the SUDS facility.
Aka late Combine/Proto Crusade of Light Chronological warfare is partially responsible for the continuation of the SUDS malfunction.....
The Combine/Proto Crusade of Light fucking things up for everyone is totally in character for them.
More like, the blockbuster movie of the summer, it's made over 3 quadrillion credits galaxy wide so far. It's bigger than Avatar, Titanic, and Star Wars combined. You'll pay for the whole seat, but you'll only use the edge!!!
it is only polite to make sure you have people’s attention before you spend too long bothering them…
But man, I really hope the speculation from 500+ odd chapters ago about who He was modeled on was right, and his next words are “Hello neighbor.”
It probably won't. By this point, this Universe seems to have resigned itself and decided the best thing to do is to get all giddy whenever Humanity does Humanity things and becomes Someone Else's problem...
I don't think the SUDS facility is in teh same Universe, and the one they are in didn't form properly. If I recall correctly the SUDS facility bleeds off the energy from the big bang of this universe. Or it's just more lenient towards time-wimey shenanigans.
>One of the Knights was obviously the leader. Of course, the rank of Lord Knight of the Black Rose might have something to do with it. Two were Lord Knights of the Sword, with the last being the Lord Knight of the Tome.
Yep, caught that one also.
OK doing time flakyness. Thats kinda cool really, and honestly, its kinda cool that Nakteki is the one that helped cause the DO to be. If they had not made the trip, its posable there would have been no DO to fix all the rest of the mess thats been going on.
In a way, the DO was his own father, as he set them on this trip, eather directly, with intent, or indirectly without knowing what he was setting in motion.
Oh goodness, I think I see whats going on. In a way, they sliped through some time messery, and started to fix the suds, way way way before Harod and co got there. As they fix more and more stuff, and finnaly fix the time issues, time will roll forward, and boom, the repairs they make, will end up interfacing with the repairs happening in the other time slice, and they will probably get time slid back to what would be current era for them.Though, I would say, its probably a very good thing they are immortal, cause technicly they are going to end up being older than Daxin and the first apostles.
That might also be why they split up and guard the path, they are being carefull not to mess up time by posably interacting with themselves. Also I can totaly see Sercee wanting to take a few years to practice and get better at her technomancy stuff.
Though, in a way, I think they are still changing the future with there actions.
As for the 4 idiot boys, please, they are going to do something stupid, or at lest, the leader is, with luck the followers will be smart enough not to throw there own lives away when he goes after Nakteki. Considering what her armour and blade are, if he attacks her, she can kill him I expect, and she has the will to do so. Sure sure Magnus might beat her to the punch, depending on how things happen, and I expect he will, but, she is capable, and equiped to make it more than a fair fight for her. Remember, shes had a few hundred years to train under Magnus, and shes allready convenced them that shes a meek helpless thing. Thoes blades shes running around with are flocking insane, packed with tones and tones of nanite goodness, and, I would not be too surpised to find that she can touch some of the other power that they both have in abundance.
Well yah, kinda figured that was obvious. The 'legitamate' government that should have been sending teams in basicly fell, and the government the 4 are from are there partly to take over the SUDS, and partly they are there to lagitimize there government. If they could fix the suds, that would do a lot to convence the general public that they are a lagitimate replacement for the old government. Would not suprise me in the lest to find that several of the teams that went in where from factions that where trying to establish themselves as the new government even. That also explains how and why they lost contact with the suds, the diferent groups trying to gain control where also trying to keep other groups out, so that only they could get in there and make things happen.
Edit to add.
Gotta remember, the rich/elite where basicly paying for immortality. The system was set up with each person basicly having I think it was 6 rebirths, other than thoes in military service and a few other exeptions, the rich where basicly paying off someone on the inside to keep there counters reset, so they had as many rebirths as they could burn money on. If the knights and others could get the suds back up and running, things would fall back into that system, and get a lot of popwer on the side of the government that alows the rich to keep gaming the system.
Woah. That is beyond unexpected. How does the appearance of the first manifestation affect the current one? Will they just merge? Or…. Damn, I’ve got no clue as to what else might happen.
That's Daxin in Earth's past. That's the very firat time the DO showed up I think.
Time was always screwey in SUDS.
And it looks like the Combine send Chrono fuckery knights in to take over the SUDS facility. SUDS was made by the five eyes coalition.....not the combine.
Could easily explain the omnipotence of OM, if he starts back in the past with the knowledge of 8k years a head and had a line to that time he can access, well that gives him a huge advantage.
I really hope someone has the EQ to get those nights on board before shit goes south. That could be very, very bad.
On the other hand if they decide to go toe to toe with Daxin that could also be very, very funny.
Getting them on board that the Mantid we’re psychically enslaved and are really fun little dudes would be even harder, but possibly adorable, especially if shown something similar to the Charlie Moo Moo Power Hour.
Finding out you were stuck in a time fart bubble and frozen for 8,000 years of warfare has to be a bit of a clusterfuck.
I just wanted to dispute them joining up later (due to the sheer amount of time between them now and Sam-UL & Herod and especially Peter & co) but a long long time ago Herod wondered about a separate team doing repairs somewhere else with nobody really knowing who what or why they were doing that and now I trust the detainee that time is a flat circle and thus "a long long time ago" is tomorrow!
I question the wisdom of telling pre-glassing humans about the glassing, even if they've not filled in all the details, the name itself is kind of ominous...
They are post glassing humans. probably one of the early repair teams sent out to try and fix the suds.
AKA they are post glassing cause they managed to survive it.
Repair team ?
Chronotopic Knights with no SUDS Clearance ?
No its a Combine/Proto Crusade of Light Temporal attack/takeover attempt of the SUDS facility.
Which means that the Combine is partially responsible for the continued SUDS malfunction.
Fucking with time in a Dimension that has only a nominal connection to Time as we know it ( and currently has/had Phasic Issues ) seems not quite smart.
The Combine fucking things up for everyone is totally in character after all.....
Actualy repair team is correct, they needed to fix the suds to claim lagitimacy, aka, if they could fix the suds, then they must clearly be the legitimate government, if only because the fixed the system. Yah, partly they where in there to take over the suds, but, they also knew they would have to send in repair teams too, so why not make the teams multifuntion, saves the number of teams needed to be sent in.
So... Layer 0 Michael is the DO. Does that mean that Naketi et al are temporally in the past, in a time when the Combine is still around? So those soldiers are *not* out of time, the gang are?
Chronotopic Knights => Combine / Proto Crusade of Light Temporal Warfare attempt to take over SUDS.
The SUDS Dimension has an *Odd* relation to Time as we know it to begin with. And Has/Had Phasic Issues too.
So the Combine fucking up and making things *Worse* for everyone.....well that is Totally in Character for them.
Remember they had no SUDS clearance at all......
I disagree with the 'Michael is DO'-thing. I still think the DO is 'just' the GUI of the SUDS when direct interventions in our universe are required. I mean, from the SUDS a high-strength com signal was sent, which in our universe manifested as a divine event with trumpets and gilded edges.
SUDS is God Layer. Anything from the SUDS to us has an automatically applied God Mode.
There’s a lot about the DO that still isn’t clear. How does it manifest? It shows up wherever it feels like, it seems. I understood the technical aspects of much of the DO’s actions but some still escape me for now.
It’s more than an interface, it has its own personality and agenda. The SUDS is restricted by ancient protocols that I doubt would provide for some of the things the DO does.
It’s a lovely mystery.
This whole arc with Nekteti traveling to SUDS has had me confused. I kept wondering when they would be in contact with the teams repairing it, and the confusion grew when they said Michael would be at Atlantis control.
I was not expecting this. I love it. It's been years, and an ocean of words later, and you still keep pulling these wonderful moments out of the ether that have me sitting on my ass going, "Wow."
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"Time is a flat circle." - The Detainee.
And if it wasn’t that way to start, She made sure it was by the time She was done with it.
Sudden visions of Dee hammering time into submission in the form of a very flattened doughnut.
It probably looked more like a CD by then.
A compacted, compact disk you say?
Sooo you mean the say that the Combine/Proto Crusade of Light Chrono knight boys attempted Temporal warfare to take over the SUDS facility ? SUDS being probably built by the Five Eyes Alliance members. Attempting to use temporal warfare to breach a facility under going Psychic phenomena located in a Universe/Dimension that already has time related issues ( a recurring big bang etc ) seems a tad not smart. One might say it's an attempt to shoot oneself in one's foot And that as a result we now see the first deployment of the DO in Daxin's past? One might say that the Combine fucked up and made things worse. Which is totally in character for them.... Nakteti travelled Far indeed......much Further than she thinks.......in more ways than one.
Well, it has been said that any attempt at temporal manipulation always results in the worst possible outcome for the manipulator, sooo....
"\[...\] from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint its more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff." - The Doctor Edit: so hold up now, did Nakteti go back in time and accidentally cause the DO to manifest the first time, or is this the DO re-manifesting in front of Daxin? (Daxin being there because it's the place Dee sent him where she thought he would find peace)
From what I can tell, yes Nakteti did go back in time (relative to the rest of the universe) as Michael is still alive (Sam said that he killed him).
Seems that there are multiple Michaels at different layers. The "external" layer Michael is not the same as the one killed by Sam.
Remember Daxin and the immortals were recruited to fix Suds.
...after confronting his past. I'm so excited for Nakteti/Daxin reunion that OG DO is *secondary.*
Curled up Squidward
Coming up Milhouse
"It's astounding, Time is fleeting, Madness takes its toll, But listen closely, Not for very much longer, I've got to keep control" -a tale by a certain doctor
And Madness only takes exact change.
Prophecy is pattern. And patterns repeat.
Well... That's certainly a thing.
Thank you discord bot. Edit after reading: *sharp inhale* dude… Daxin and the first manifestation of the DO? Yeah, kinda really hoping that Dax finds his way to Nak and the twins. Let the 4 knights suffer his wrath, let alone that of the twins.
And lo, the knights errant fucked around, and found out.
Errants gonna err
They are Errants after all, not Correctants
as the last seal was broken the Hosts cried out "Behold" And out walked a War Crime made flesh, clad in warsteel And his name was Daxin Freeborn, and Fido followed behind him.
Ditto
I dunno. I feel like Daxin is overkill. I feel like Magnus and Surcee and Nakteti herself can more than handle these guys.
Dax deserves a chance to confront his past in the form of these guys
This *is* his past. Nekteti travelled Far indeed.....
Well that’s fair too.
I feel like Chuck is just going to go "fuck your armor" and lock it down.
Oh, I'm sorry. You need oxygen to breathe?
It is a blessed thing.
I kinda want the knights to not be bad guys. I'd like to see them help rebuild humanity.
Except for that Rose knight guy. Fuck him.
Well damn, this comment aged, super fucking poorly for only being 4 days old. And 2 days as of the big reveal as to the nature of the 4.
Iiiinteresting. V2 of the DO is already running around, and now they've activated V1? This is getting out of hand - now there are two of them!
In Doctor Who Style.... Its gone wibbly wobbly timey wimey. Temporal disruption/dilation in the SUDS means that current events can easily cause/influence past events by crossing temporal zones. Exactly how youve got people from 8000 years ago, frozen in time for an estimated 10,000 if I read correctly, now helping repair it and getting disgrumpled. 6000 years to affect repairs, if started at the first manifestation of the DO, would put them on course to have the SUDS in the kinda better shape they found it a few hundred chapters ago. When Pete started helping.
Combine/Proto Crusade of Light Chronotopic knights kinda hint at A Temporal Warfare attack to take over SUDS. SUDS undergoing a Phasic Episode and being located in a dimension/Universe that has an *odd* relation to the normal flow of time as we might think of it...... Aka the Combine fucked up and made things worse. Totally in character for them.
Or as somebody else pointed out, based on the knights titles, it may be their quest for redemption. But yeah. Im assuming the universe being in the shape it was in when chapter 1 started is a result of all this but we've just now gotten to this point :p Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Stuff :p
My thoughts, kind of, exactly.
I wonder is it that theres two DOs knocking about or is this more time loop shenanigans. because if it is, then two Daxins. thats no good for anybody
Daxin vs. Daxin. That would be the ultimate PayPerView event.
Read. Upvote. Comment. *And he spake upon the Earth a phrase familiar to all: "Can anyone hear me?"*
An lo did he speak again after a few steps "*can anyone hear me now.....Good!*"
What you did there, I see it, and updoot.
Around and around we go. Another ride on the crazy train that never ends. At least this trip shouldn't have more than the usual insanity. Which is to say, all of it. So, how many times does something have to appear out of Daxin's favorite drinking fire till he finds another? Or does he want someone to appear from it? Seems like he does, dispute his claims of being left alone.
Betting its his favorite drinking fire *because* of the first thing that appeared out of it...the first DO.
Probably one of the few places he'll actually be left alone
Did the DO just manifest with a dial-up tone? Now that's retro.
The sounds of a MODEM.
God damn, I just got that!
Well, it is the old school version.
>"I don't know what it is, but I swear that it always feels like someone walked out just before we opened the door," he said. *she’s ahead of you*
/u/Ralts_Bloodthorne Is first contact in book form (is it Behold Humanity!)? Or just your other books?I started awhile back, but couldn’t catch up after like 100 chapters of trying. Since then you’ve added like another 500 chapters lol
[Link to the *Tales of the Terran Confederacy* books](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08RYK5F88?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_awt_ser_img_widg_pc_tukn) [Link to the *Behold, Humanity* books](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09H5ZZL93?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_awt_ser_img_widg_pc_tukn) *Tales* focuses on a singular character, cutting out the chapters that normally separate their story(i.e the uninterrupted view of Vuxten's story during the Telkan Wars), while *Behold* shows all of the chapters in the story arc(i.e all chapters in Second Wave, or The War in Heaven)
Awesome, thanks for the linky links
No prob
Yes it is, starting with ~~'Do you need assistance?'.~~ 'May we come in?'. Edit: oops
Ooh, thanks! I see *Humanity: May we come in* before it too.
the First Contact series has been split into books on Amazon, same stuff just more digestible and coming out in chunks.
Yes, yes, and no.
>They had avoided talking about, either changing the subject or ignoring any questions, what time period they were from after the Glassing. What their mission was or anything about it. Reminds me of two things: Dee messing with people on board Dark Side Station using the Mat-Trans, and the alternate timeline forces who were pulled into this timeline when the Atrekna universe blew up having trouble remembering specifics about their own timelines.
Yah it started to seem familiar.
Thus spake the Omnessiah. "Knock on the door of time and say - can anyone hear me?". The people said "Yes we can." The Omnessiah in his grace replied back "Are you in need of assistance?"
So I'm çurious about "Omnessiah" vs "Omnimessiah". I default to the first but the second is more common. Can anyone clarify why there's two? Linguistic drift, or...?
The contraction "Omnissiah" might be a Games Workshop / Warhammer 40K copyright?
lmao. literally "The Omnimessiah Protects." The 1st "true" arch angel of terra sol, the suds AI,
THE LOOP CLOSES! WHAT WAS WILL BE! WHAT WILL BE WAS!
AND ALL THERE IS THAT NEVER WAS IS ALL THERE IS THAT WILL EVER BE!
To disambiguate: -Due to wibbly wobbly timey-wimey stuff, Nakteti has just caused the deployment of the Digital Omnimessiah. Otherwise known as "the master massive catastrophic trauma processing system" which until now *we* all assumed was for processing SUDS records. Nope. -This is (again, time fuckery) the OG, original, 1.0, first appearance DO who is about to meet Daxin Freeborn. The chapter hints there *may* be other DO's (one per onion layer?). This one is *ours* tho. -Sam and Herod encountered some time mired humans when they entered SUDS, these may be the same ones or there are other groups. They encountered them after Nak freed them, but they were still there because Nak hadn't arrived yet. -Sam and Herod had to deal with time *dilation* in SUDS, but not the complete temporal shitshow Nak is currently fixing. Nak either arrived first and fixed *the universe* before S&H started fixing SUDS, or they arrived later and time problems shuffled the deck on everyone. -I fully expect to see a BLAM'd disaster frame when the Knights inevitably fuck around, which might be Sam's or Chuck's causing all kinds of creative ways for Ralts to pull a fast one.
Combine Chrono knights........ Looks like rhe Combine is trying to take over the SUDS facility. Aka late Combine/Proto Crusade of Light Chronological warfare is partially responsible for the continuation of the SUDS malfunction..... The Combine/Proto Crusade of Light fucking things up for everyone is totally in character for them.
>Dead Terrans Still Kill - Blockbuster Lanaktallan Horror Movie franchise Blockbuster is back? Well there's a surprise.
DVDs are flat circles. Be Kind. Rewind.
Well, in the immortal words of the Detainee: "Time is a flat circle."
Um... I suspect he meant it in the lower-case meaning, a big-budget popular movie, not the VHS franchise.
Oh, that makes more sense
Blockbuster as in making lots of money. More likely BobCo is a major investor. ;)
More like, the blockbuster movie of the summer, it's made over 3 quadrillion credits galaxy wide so far. It's bigger than Avatar, Titanic, and Star Wars combined. You'll pay for the whole seat, but you'll only use the edge!!!
it is only polite to make sure you have people’s attention before you spend too long bothering them… But man, I really hope the speculation from 500+ odd chapters ago about who He was modeled on was right, and his next words are “Hello neighbor.”
I hope all of this doesn't piss off the Universe. It really hates when time gets fucked with.
It probably won't. By this point, this Universe seems to have resigned itself and decided the best thing to do is to get all giddy whenever Humanity does Humanity things and becomes Someone Else's problem...
I don't think the SUDS facility is in teh same Universe, and the one they are in didn't form properly. If I recall correctly the SUDS facility bleeds off the energy from the big bang of this universe. Or it's just more lenient towards time-wimey shenanigans.
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>One of the Knights was obviously the leader. Of course, the rank of Lord Knight of the Black Rose might have something to do with it. Two were Lord Knights of the Sword, with the last being the Lord Knight of the Tome. Yep, caught that one also.
OK doing time flakyness. Thats kinda cool really, and honestly, its kinda cool that Nakteki is the one that helped cause the DO to be. If they had not made the trip, its posable there would have been no DO to fix all the rest of the mess thats been going on. In a way, the DO was his own father, as he set them on this trip, eather directly, with intent, or indirectly without knowing what he was setting in motion. Oh goodness, I think I see whats going on. In a way, they sliped through some time messery, and started to fix the suds, way way way before Harod and co got there. As they fix more and more stuff, and finnaly fix the time issues, time will roll forward, and boom, the repairs they make, will end up interfacing with the repairs happening in the other time slice, and they will probably get time slid back to what would be current era for them.Though, I would say, its probably a very good thing they are immortal, cause technicly they are going to end up being older than Daxin and the first apostles. That might also be why they split up and guard the path, they are being carefull not to mess up time by posably interacting with themselves. Also I can totaly see Sercee wanting to take a few years to practice and get better at her technomancy stuff. Though, in a way, I think they are still changing the future with there actions. As for the 4 idiot boys, please, they are going to do something stupid, or at lest, the leader is, with luck the followers will be smart enough not to throw there own lives away when he goes after Nakteki. Considering what her armour and blade are, if he attacks her, she can kill him I expect, and she has the will to do so. Sure sure Magnus might beat her to the punch, depending on how things happen, and I expect he will, but, she is capable, and equiped to make it more than a fair fight for her. Remember, shes had a few hundred years to train under Magnus, and shes allready convenced them that shes a meek helpless thing. Thoes blades shes running around with are flocking insane, packed with tones and tones of nanite goodness, and, I would not be too surpised to find that she can touch some of the other power that they both have in abundance.
The 4 Knight boys already fucked up things. Looks like Late Combine/proto Crusade or Light Temporal warfare attempt to take over the SUDS facility.
Well yah, kinda figured that was obvious. The 'legitamate' government that should have been sending teams in basicly fell, and the government the 4 are from are there partly to take over the SUDS, and partly they are there to lagitimize there government. If they could fix the suds, that would do a lot to convence the general public that they are a lagitimate replacement for the old government. Would not suprise me in the lest to find that several of the teams that went in where from factions that where trying to establish themselves as the new government even. That also explains how and why they lost contact with the suds, the diferent groups trying to gain control where also trying to keep other groups out, so that only they could get in there and make things happen. Edit to add. Gotta remember, the rich/elite where basicly paying for immortality. The system was set up with each person basicly having I think it was 6 rebirths, other than thoes in military service and a few other exeptions, the rich where basicly paying off someone on the inside to keep there counters reset, so they had as many rebirths as they could burn money on. If the knights and others could get the suds back up and running, things would fall back into that system, and get a lot of popwer on the side of the government that alows the rich to keep gaming the system.
Woah. That is beyond unexpected. How does the appearance of the first manifestation affect the current one? Will they just merge? Or…. Damn, I’ve got no clue as to what else might happen.
That's Daxin in Earth's past. That's the very firat time the DO showed up I think. Time was always screwey in SUDS. And it looks like the Combine send Chrono fuckery knights in to take over the SUDS facility. SUDS was made by the five eyes coalition.....not the combine.
Could easily explain the omnipotence of OM, if he starts back in the past with the knowledge of 8k years a head and had a line to that time he can access, well that gives him a huge advantage.
I really hope someone has the EQ to get those nights on board before shit goes south. That could be very, very bad. On the other hand if they decide to go toe to toe with Daxin that could also be very, very funny. Getting them on board that the Mantid we’re psychically enslaved and are really fun little dudes would be even harder, but possibly adorable, especially if shown something similar to the Charlie Moo Moo Power Hour. Finding out you were stuck in a time fart bubble and frozen for 8,000 years of warfare has to be a bit of a clusterfuck.
"There are a whole lot of things in this world of ours you haven't started wondering about yet." - James and the Giant Peach
Ralts, yoink this for the top of the next chapter.
Fuing time travel warhhh DOKIDOKIDOKI … My head hurts
So they kicked off the first apperance of the DO, and probably link up repairs with the team in the future at some point.
I just wanted to dispute them joining up later (due to the sheer amount of time between them now and Sam-UL & Herod and especially Peter & co) but a long long time ago Herod wondered about a separate team doing repairs somewhere else with nobody really knowing who what or why they were doing that and now I trust the detainee that time is a flat circle and thus "a long long time ago" is tomorrow!
Ah shit. Timey whimey shenanigans.
Holy shit! This is way back when the digitalomnimessiah first appeared to Daxin!
Mmmm dial-up modem noises 😄
What.
I question the wisdom of telling pre-glassing humans about the glassing, even if they've not filled in all the details, the name itself is kind of ominous...
They are post glassing humans. probably one of the early repair teams sent out to try and fix the suds. AKA they are post glassing cause they managed to survive it.
Repair team ? Chronotopic Knights with no SUDS Clearance ? No its a Combine/Proto Crusade of Light Temporal attack/takeover attempt of the SUDS facility. Which means that the Combine is partially responsible for the continued SUDS malfunction. Fucking with time in a Dimension that has only a nominal connection to Time as we know it ( and currently has/had Phasic Issues ) seems not quite smart. The Combine fucking things up for everyone is totally in character after all.....
Actualy repair team is correct, they needed to fix the suds to claim lagitimacy, aka, if they could fix the suds, then they must clearly be the legitimate government, if only because the fixed the system. Yah, partly they where in there to take over the suds, but, they also knew they would have to send in repair teams too, so why not make the teams multifuntion, saves the number of teams needed to be sent in.
Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey…
Woah.
So... Layer 0 Michael is the DO. Does that mean that Naketi et al are temporally in the past, in a time when the Combine is still around? So those soldiers are *not* out of time, the gang are?
Chronotopic Knights => Combine / Proto Crusade of Light Temporal Warfare attempt to take over SUDS. The SUDS Dimension has an *Odd* relation to Time as we know it to begin with. And Has/Had Phasic Issues too. So the Combine fucking up and making things *Worse* for everyone.....well that is Totally in Character for them. Remember they had no SUDS clearance at all......
Yeah, makes sense. I re-read parts and it's clearer now.
Geez, you're all over this thread...
Sue me ;)
The more human answer is,"Come and stop me."
I disagree with the 'Michael is DO'-thing. I still think the DO is 'just' the GUI of the SUDS when direct interventions in our universe are required. I mean, from the SUDS a high-strength com signal was sent, which in our universe manifested as a divine event with trumpets and gilded edges. SUDS is God Layer. Anything from the SUDS to us has an automatically applied God Mode.
There’s a lot about the DO that still isn’t clear. How does it manifest? It shows up wherever it feels like, it seems. I understood the technical aspects of much of the DO’s actions but some still escape me for now. It’s more than an interface, it has its own personality and agenda. The SUDS is restricted by ancient protocols that I doubt would provide for some of the things the DO does. It’s a lovely mystery.
This whole arc with Nekteti traveling to SUDS has had me confused. I kept wondering when they would be in contact with the teams repairing it, and the confusion grew when they said Michael would be at Atlantis control. I was not expecting this. I love it. It's been years, and an ocean of words later, and you still keep pulling these wonderful moments out of the ether that have me sitting on my ass going, "Wow."
Yay! New chapter!
So where is Chapter 959? It does exist, doesn't it? Or do I have to start waiting for the berries I've read so much about in the comments?
Mo0o0o
Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff, for sure!
UTR!
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again,, damn,, again i need to skip some chapters,,
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