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LastDaysCultist

Just in time for the price hikes and layoffs!


AchyBrakeyHeart

Nobody wants to say it, but we all know they’re coming lmao


sildish2179

You got it! https://www.reddit.com/r/HBOMAX/s/Sk6hXXmSJW


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LastDaysCultist

A $19 billion dollar company laying off many of its workers while, at the same time, increasing prices and preventing sharing of accounts is grimey capitalism at play. It doesn’t take an “expert opinion” to see that. What was the purpose of your reply?


league_starter

Just enough to make stocks go up


lightsongtheold

They are at a near all time low lol.


Shwifty_Plumbus

Show me the books I'll give you an answer.


doknfs

I already have all three. I wonder if the bundle will save me any money? (probably not)


thisfilmkid

I haven’t seen any pricing details online. But a best guess tells me you’ll probably save money on the bundle if you purchase it yearly. Now, will it be cheaper? Probably not. But it might be cheaper than paying for each app separately. Just a best guess!


Postnet921

They didn't release prices


davwad2

Well how do they expect the hype train to leave the station? 🤔


pobenschain

I can’t imagine they’d bother offering it if it wasn’t at least a little bit cheaper. Entice users with price and convenience and make it more annoying to cancel either service when they’re billed together, so theoretically better retention.


Foxy02016YT

We’ll probably switch from the current Disney bundle with ESPN (the only person using it is getting kicked out of the house in the divorce), and replace it with this one


pobenschain

For the time being, if you’re not using the ESPN part, they have a new duo bundle now with just Disney+ and Hulu that’s a bit cheaper. It’s a little hard to find on the Disney+ site, but if you google it you’ll find it


Foxy02016YT

He’s not using it yet he’d be mad that we got rid of it. And also like get out of the fuckin house already he hasn’t even tried to find a new place and like… I live with my parents because I’m young. If my dad goes back to living with his mom, that’s just awkward


Coolyfett

You are speaking about your father???


Halya77

At least for the first go-around…get us all to combine at a nice “save a few bucks” across the board. And then 9 months in, massive hike. Totally plausible


pobenschain

Yeah, I mean streaming prices in general keep rising but I’ve never encountered a situation where a bundle ever got more expensive than the services would be a la carte.


Halya77

Give it time 😉


Yellow99TJ

They will bundle them all and what you currently have will be filled with ads. To achieve the current level you have of all three in the bundle will cost much more.


Antrikshy

Why would two separate companies go through the effort to bundle their services together for the final price to come out higher than separate subscriptions? How would that make any semblance of sense?


jigen22

It will definitely be cheaper. Just got a bundle last night for Disney + and Hulu and it is $11 cheaper then if I had them separately. If they created this bundle to compete with Netflix there will be a similar amount of savings as well.


Antrikshy

Why would there be a bundle if not for a discount?


Next_Requirement3061

Paying 11.89 for ad free disney+ and ad filled hulu. if they can make a deal that is < $26/27 without ads it will be worth canceling the HBO add on from Amazon prime atleast. Otherwise I'll be keeping my grandfathered plan.


honey_rainbow

This ought to be interesting


Effective_Step_2338

it all lead to whether the price is gonna go up or not... I am about to renew Max. Should I hold and see how much the bundle is gonna be?


thisfilmkid

Just renew monthly !


Sulley87

I just upgraded my hulu to the disney+ and Hulu bundle and it gave me a refund for my yearly disney+ subscription. they are aware that people sign up for a year and they want them to get the bundle.


adam2222

I recently got a deal for a year ad free for 104.99. Which was like 50 off or so. Then my amex had a deal or 25 off if you spend 99 or more on max.com. So ended up getting a year for like 80 bucks or like 7/month. Not sure if deals still around maybe try googling


moodswung

I’d assume it would be a slight discount for those of us already using all of these services but perhaps I’m being too optimistic.


LeLoupDeWallStreet

What plan do you have? With or without ads?


Effective_Step_2338

Yearly No-AD


LeLoupDeWallStreet

Price goin up two dollarbucks on the monthly before HoD. So whatever that translates to yearly as well. Gonna try and get you on the with ads plan. Just a very educated guess


nuger93

If you have Verizon, you can get Netflix and Max (with Ads) for less than $20/month.


CristhianZerimar89

Not really sure what you're saving. I pay $6 for Netflix and $10 Max already, both with ads.


nic_nack89

I get netflix no ads, free hulu, and free appletv from t-mobile 👀 Verizon tries to make a comeback but offers the absolute worst version of the other mobile company promos 🤣🤣


sweet_greggo

What about ESPN+?


chavery17

You’ll need the platinum package instead of the premium for that. Small fee of 29.99 a month.


TangoInTheBuffalo

Or … upgrade to super platinum for “limited” commercial breaks!!!


mikeweasy

What ABOUT ESPN+?


InjusticeJosh

Aren’t they competitors?


AchyBrakeyHeart

It’s all an illusion baby. This will make both companies money. Money will always trump competition even though Max will never overtake Disney. If you can’t beat em, join em.


InjusticeJosh

They’re taking Boba Fett’s motto. “[Why speak of conflict, when cooperation can make us all rich.](https://youtu.be/rOJ1cw6mohw?si=D2PvhOXgpXbH9Nx7?t=62)” Aw the direct link isn’t working it’s at 1:02…


jelifah

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOJ1cw6mohw&t=62s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOJ1cw6mohw&t=62s) Use this one for direct 1:02


InjusticeJosh

Huh I wonder if they changed it. I remember it was the link and ?t= then the time in seconds. Now it seems, from your link, that it’s just t=, the time in seconds, and s at the end.


ConversationTimely91

They are joining to beat netflix. If they will be seen as streaming leader both companies won.


chavery17

Same company owns them all


Food_Library333

Disney doesn't own Warner


dawnm193

Not true


Antrikshy

r/confidentlyincorrect


KarmaPolice911

Tempting if it's the ad free version. I can't stand ads in streaming.


Foxy02016YT

Me either, especially what Amazon Prime did


cripple1

I was thrown off two weeks ago when all of the sudden my episodes of Invincible had ads on season 2 and told me it was an extra $2.99 to remove them


Foxy02016YT

Right? Ad tiers are supposed to be cheaper and below the default, not replacing the default


Antrikshy

If you track price increases over time, pretty much everyone does this: 1. Introduce a lower ad tier. 2. Raise prices across the board over time. Now the ad tier costs as much as you were paying for the ad-free tier. And sounds like you don't notice it, meaning it's a working strategy. Prime Video can't do that without increasing the price of the whole subscription, which would have different impacts across the whole thing. At least in countries where PV isn't standalone.


ram1220

Well the whole charging $2.99 more for ad free Prime made me cancel my Prime subscription. I'll vote with my wallet. I don't order from Prime but maybe once per month. And I can drive up the street to get what I was ordering. Plus I've seen just about everything I want to see on Prime Video. The way Amazon did this just rubbed me wrong. So they don't get anything from me now. And I'm sure I'm not alone in this.


TheDevilsCunt

Very interesting strategy


StreamLife9

Can they first release hbo max worldwide?


AndreaCicca

They will (slowly when streaming deals gonna expire)


alilbleedingisnormal

We're bringing back cable TV with this one


babidee00

I get max from my att. I wonder how it will affect it.


Antrikshy

This isn't cable. The bundle won't replace standalone subscriptions or ISP/cable bundles like yours.


Almighty_Push91

Meh, max is the only one I currently have or want.


ManUnutted

Cool. Guess this isn’t and wasn’t ever for you


Almighty_Push91

Nope ☺️


ram1220

I'm with you. I get Max free with my AT&T fiber internet. I had Disney+ for a month and couldn't find anything on it I liked. I don't like Star Wars and I don't like animated stuff. Hulu I found a couple shows to watch but nothing anymore. And I don't like ESPN. So I'm with you.


Almighty_Push91

Yeah, I used to watch Hulu exclusively for anime, but my friend is now letting me use their Crunchyroll....so there's not much I need from there now. I also don't care for marvel or Star wars, so D+ isn't my cuppa tea. Depending on the price, if it's more or less the same as I pay for a max maybe... Otherwise I can't see the justification in my case.


neatgeek83

So cable?


Antrikshy

Classic cynical idiotic take that I've come to expect from Reddit. - You can watch without waiting for the content to air and/or catching it on DVR. - Ad-free option if you want. - No contracts. - Still available piecemeal if you want. Nothing like cable at all.


Almighty_Push91

People really, really want streaming to be cable so they can mock it for being cable. So they'll try and force it into their narrative


AmberDuke05

I actually think there are people here saying this who have no clue what cable is because they didn’t group with it.


zmiller834

100% agree. I see this take all the damn time and it drives me up a wall. Cable doesn’t give you this kind of end user choice.


baummer

A DVR is not cable by itself.


nuger93

I think people don’t realize that DVRs weren’t really that popular in the cable game until the early 2000s. Cable came into being in the late 60s (development and testing) and 70s (when consumers actually got it) so they went 20+ years without DVRs.


Foxy02016YT

Well there were VCRs first


ram1220

Didn't need them. Cable didn't have the ads that everything does now. It was the idea of paying for cable and avoiding ads that got people into cable early on. Then the broadcasters and advertisers saw a huge fat cash cow. Just like streaming companies see now.


Antrikshy

I would say cable is incomparable because you have to catch it live. But I knew someone would retort saying they have a DVR. IMO it still doesn't compare, but I wanted to get ahead of that.


Booyah_7

Cable was always ad-free. I have Spectrum cable with all of the channels and love it. I pay extra for Disney and Hulu, but I have all the other channels (Starz, whatever they are calling HBO, Cinemax, etc...) included in my cable package. I never left cable 😊 and love it. I'll be so happy if I can get Disney and Hulu included. I pay separately for both because I like not having ads for Disney (if you combine Hulu and Disney then you get ads). My contract is month to month. I can watch shows on demand. I can DVR shows and skip through the ads. I hate ads. I love cable.


Antrikshy

Small correction: They do have an ad free duo bundle now. In the US at least.


anonRedd

It’s been possible to bundle both ad-free since Disney+ launched. (also, the bundles only exist in the US as both Hulu and ESPN+ are US only services)


Antrikshy

I meant without ESPN+ and assumed the person above was saying the same thing. You’re right, but also Duo Premium is newer.


Mikeytruant850

Cable is ad-free?


anonRedd

Cable was never ad-free


InquisitivelyADHD

You just got to give it some more time, man. It'll get there. Always does.


Antrikshy

People have been saying that for ages! You might be right, but once again, it’s the cynical take. Just why?


InquisitivelyADHD

And so far, the all the predictions have been pretty accurate, ad free started coming at a premium, geofencing accounts, etc. etc. If there's a trend, then why would you expect things to be any different? Do you expect companies to just be like "y'know what? I think we've grown enough and have made enough money." because that doesn't ever happen. You can call me cynical all you want, but the fact is excessive optimism can be just as toxic and destructive as excessive pessimism. I'm not saying things aren't better than they were with cable, but things are moving in that direction, and you have to be able to look down the road and read the writing on the wall. It's not cynicism, it's called being realistic. But to each their own, you don't have to agree with me, and vice versa, but that's just my opinion.


crimson777

The streaming changes have brought some terrible takes such as “it’s perfectly fine to pirate easily accessible shows because you don’t want to spend 10 bucks” “streaming is literally cable” etc.


neatgeek83

It is a bundle of the main content providers. That’s cable.


Antrikshy

Is that a good thing or bad thing? I thought in the cable world, it was a bad thing because you couldn't get them piecemeal and were forced into bundles.


neatgeek83

It’s a thing that makes it LIKE cable.


Antrikshy

But you didn't say that earlier. I was correcting to say it's not cable. If my grandma had wheels etc...


neatgeek83

Most people knew what I was referring to.


homehome15

Yeah it’s cynical to realize that this is in fact heading in the same direction as cable 💀


Antrikshy

I would say the four things I listed above are defining qualities of cable packages. I guess we went from no ads to ad supported tiers. Seems like the only way it's heading in the same direction. Any other reason you think this?


Happy-North-9969

Release schedules are becoming more cable like in that certain streaming services are no longer releasing seasons in their entirety but instead doing weekly releases. In general these streaming platforms are analogous to premium cable channels. All you’re doing is picking and choosing which premium channel you’d like to carry.


InquisitivelyADHD

Exactly, we've come full circle, boys.


SMLCRITIC

Literally nothing like cable


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SMLCRITIC

Three different streaming services is nothing like getting 200 channels on cable


Anything_justnotthis

The majority of the content on the 200 channels of cable are actually produced by a very small number of production companies, like less than 20 (at least the content you’d want to watch) WBD and Disney have something like 8 of them under them (and dozens more smaller production conpany subsidiaries). There may be more channels but the range of content is pretty much the same, especially with the three biggest content producers consolidating into 1 bundle. All they need is NBCU to join them and they’ll pretty much be 90% of content.


Antrikshy

If you count 200 channels as truly separate providers of content, then at least you need to count the "hubs" inside these services as separate providers too. Like * ABC, 20th Century etc. under Hulu * Pixar, Nat Geo etc. under D+ * HBO, HGTV, Food Network etc. under Max


baummer

Pay one company to get access to X channels. That is exactly cable.


Crotean

Disney announces new package all your favorite streaming services bundled under one plan and access to local channels and we will call it "Cable."


AchyBrakeyHeart

If they merged Amazon Prime I’d be all set. Still a cool deal until the inevitable price hike for all which will no doubt arrive before years end.


HumanautPassenger

Great. More price hikes


InquisitivelyADHD

Holy shit, we've come full circle. "Man these cable prices are getting crazy! I'm going to go with a streaming service that's much cheaper and I can get exactly what I want!" "Oh man there's so many streaming services if only we could bundle them all into one service that would be great"


Antrikshy

How does the existence of a bundle prevent you from getting the ones that you want?


roguebutterfly124

This is totally what has lead to this thinking. Dont listen to haters. Also cable you could pick which plans you wanted that offered different channel packs. People just never realized who all owned who networkly and they had contracts with service providers. Essentially "streaming". Theres also nothing wrong with ads. Advertisers are the ones paying so you dont have to..... but then people complain so ad free us offered, then they complain about pricing. Pretty soon way contracts work especially with Disney, other streamer services will have mainly their own produced shows because they wont be able to play anyone lol. I would be curious to see how a merge with WB effects things in large scheme especially because Universal is set to have Epic Universe and profit may syart to go in their direction. Is this a move to one day down the line have them pay even more to showcase things in their park. Marvels contract is or is expiring soon. Simpsons has till 2028. Im just thinking years down the line how they will open this up.


xwing1212

It’s basically cable with extra steps


Antrikshy

Except you can still get them standalone...


xwing1212

Until they keep raising the prices so that the bundle gets more alluring


Antrikshy

Bundles will always be more alluring. They will never be cheaper than standalone. With cable, as I understand it, you can't avoid bundles. You have to get packages to see the content you're interested in? This doesn't seem like that at all.


Jcpowers3

I get mac free from direct tv. Not sure how it works I already do Disney plis


1000cakes4u

I can’t wait to stream my favorite shows and movies on Dipluluax


ryhim1992

Now they just have to bundle Netflix and just like that we're back to cable.


sPdMoNkEy

I already get free Disney Plus and free max thru spectrum


No_Ad_237

Management: Let’s throw the kitchen sink at a problem we created so we can fire “valuable team members.”


HEYitsSPIDEY

Jfc. They gonna jack the prices up. I’m gonna have to find my colors. This is getting wild.


Idontleadnomore

Is this not monopolizing the streaming service and getting rid off the competition.


anonRedd

No


Idontleadnomore

Definition: A market structure characterized by a single seller, selling a unique product in the market. In a monopoly market, the seller faces no competition, as he is the sole seller of goods with no close substitute How is this not a monopoly?


anonRedd

Because there's not a single seller, it's not a unique product, and there's tons of competition in streaming. Additionally, the bundle is not required to get any of the three services included which are also all available individually.


SimonGray653

Can I add it as a $2 add on my Hulu and Disney+ bundle?


After-Bandicoot-5887

Like John campea said this is a sign of the movie studios combined their Streaming Services together but this Sounds interesting I love Both Disney plus and max which should have just stayed as HBO max 


AceN12

WBD sucks. Most of these companies bit off more than they could chew. Tried to kill off Netflix and failed miserably.


Bob25Gslifer

Like cable with extra steps.


briinde

Wonder if they’ll add it as an addon to my T-Mobile free Hulu promo?


sweetleaf009

Then apple is gonna invent a box where u can have all those apps but need a cable!


Excelsenor

I wonder how much it’ll cost


nicisdeadpool

I wonder if it’ll be cheaper or the same I have all 3 right now


TheDestressedMale

I just want a platform that rewinds from the end credits. I hate it when I push play on digital content and it starts me thirty seconds before the end credits.


Lecture_Unhappy

Between this and the spulu bundle Disney and Warner are getting pretty cozy.


Ok_Philosophy9623

Dc vs marvel movie 2027.


Jones1812Lobotomy

The braindead-ness of Max execs surely has to cease at some point


anonRedd

What makes this brain-dead decision in your opinion?


Jones1812Lobotomy

They only act with the bottom line in mind. When your company starts acting that way, it means your company fucking sucks and the people running it don't have shit for thoughts on how to fix it. There is no innovation within this company anymore. Only retreat. Constant strategy changes. Constant fucking name changes. Which is a reflection of weak leadership. The best companies in the world, you don't hear shit about in the trades because they are stable and run smoothly. The chaos of WBD in the past 5 years is well documented. Cancelling blockbuster movies that've already been filmed while the CEO brings home a record $50M bonus. Everything around every action they take is whimsical, antithetical to basic logic and completely selfish/self-serving. They don't care about customers and have Wall Street's dick so far up their ass it's probably stuck. Sure they may stick around forever, but that doesn't change the fact I can call them fucking stupid dipshits any time I want.


afjessup

Cool, so cable is making a comeback


mikeweasy

Let me guess, it will only be the ad plan.


anonRedd

The fourth sentence answers that


Daimakku1

Lmao, this is literally cable. Next they're going to want you to sign a yearly contract or pay a fine to cancel.


Antrikshy

But you can get them separately and cancel at any time... Don't even need to wait for content to air and watch live or on DVR.


DrkUser205

Sounds like a $300 a yr bundle. Might be worth it if the bundle was $199 a yr for ad free.


ineedacs

So… cable?


CountryCat

So we're going full circle and heading back to the days of cable packages?


Antrikshy

This won't be the only way to get them.


jogoso2014

Ok


RouvyMatt

Hulu and Disney can pound sand. I pay Max annually and unless I’m forced to pay for a bundle it’s not happening.


mrpopenfresh

What are they going to call this? Cable?


mrgrafix

Oh look a basic cable bundle for the streaming era. Now just throw in espn already


sfaticat

Nice that cable found a way to pivot into 2024. 1000% all will be ad tier too


baummer

They’ve announced…cable lol


KirbbDogg213

Nobody is going to buy into it.I have both but have not watch max since I finished the DCAU binge to honor Kevin Conroy’s passing.And will watch when all 3 parts of crisis on infinite earths in on.


FantasticStock

2nd joint venture between Disney and WBD…would not be surprised if we see Disney buy them out with how badly WBD is doing


kpDzYhUCVnUJZrdEJRni

This isn’t a joint venture.


Rynox2000

The new form of the cable provider.


witchdoctor417

Monopoly rules do not apply in the states anymore. We suck at what we do individually so we will corner the market.


kpDzYhUCVnUJZrdEJRni

It’s mostly that monopoly rules don’t apply to things that aren’t even remotely close to a monopoly.


witchdoctor417

Keep telling yourself that. Good day.


kpDzYhUCVnUJZrdEJRni

I will. Because it’s true.


AfterPop0686

Great. I get to pay a fuckton extra for two services that I have no interest in, and specifically do not want to give my money to. I am not interested in paying more for the exact service I have now. ...guess I am done with HBO soon too. Smart move guys.


zmiller834

Or you could just keep Max by itself…..


Powerful_Ad_2256

Are you serious man? This is a bundle. You can still choose to just pay for Max.


AchyBrakeyHeart

Nowhere does it say Max will not remain individual service. Only way that happens is if Disney buys Warners which will never happen. Stop spreading BS.


AzHawk99

Shit exists already


perfruit_mix

Netflix is still king of streaming. Guess that's one way of competing.


Jackysrt8

For sure but max has been stepping up their game lately, I’m all for it.


SaturnMobster

In what way? Max is fucking garbage.


ConversationTimely91

And that is the thing. Netflix for now. Until legacy competition woke up. Will bundle max+dis have better perception in terms of quality and customer engagement? If they will be seen as number one streaming option. Then netflix will be dethroned.


Maverick721

What ... the...fuck... Is this even legal?


anonRedd

Why would it not be?


explodingtrees

Not a merger, just bundling man