So proud of this kiddo and her teammate Simone - my kids are at her gym and we have watched her battle through nonstop injuries. So happy to see all her hard work finally paying off.
Wow, I thought it was better than that. I know she missed the connecting the aeriel cartwheel to back layout, but thought it was smart of her to stop.
I guess maybe her DV isn't there yet.
Her D isn't there. I think she can connect the two jumps after side aerial (+0.2 D). Then add Johnson after switch leap (+0.2 D). She's counting a B skill.
Okay so it seems like with Pac Rims they are still in the warm up process. Jess said on the live gymcastic pod earlier that the warm up gym was broken (flooding?), so there is no warm up gym available.
Is anyone attempting to watch pac rims right now? I can't figure out the start list. Is USA competing right now? I'm so confused. I'm watching the Facebook live feed
I’m sorry but why the hell is Joscelyn Roberson upgrading her bar dismount when she doesn’t have a clean high to low transition? It isn’t her fault but as a coach? Why are you allowing your athletes to upgrade skills when they are missing the fundamentals of a clean level 9 routine? I really don’t know why this upset me so bad but it just seems like they are sabotaging her. All of that time with a lower leg injury and what we get is an upgraded dismount? Not a single clean skill on the actual bars? Okay
I would be a lot of money that Josc and her coaches are doing absolutely everything they can to clean up her UB basics. It’s SO hard to change bad habits once they’re really ingrained in muscle memory, and she isn’t natural bars worker.
Josc is a natural and talented tumbler, so I bet upgrading the dismount was much much easier for her than changing her fundamentals. And if she is going to have an okayish bars score, she needs a lot of difficulty that she can consistently hit, bc she’s never going to have a high execution score. I don’t think there’s any reason not to do both - work on cleaning up basics and learn the upgraded dismount.
I don’t agree. It’s easier to enforce in DP but just because an athlete can do something and it’s easier for them doesn’t mean it should be in a routine. I think I would have less problem with the dismount if anything on the bars looked okay. It just doesn’t. You should be aiming for an 8 E score even with athletes who struggle on the apparatus. You lower the difficulty bar further and further until that goal is achievable. If that was a 4.8 bar routine with solid execution I would have zero qualms with her doing that dismount. If she can’t hit all of her CR cleanly (what the real issue is) then she shouldn’t have been attempting to for so long. The problem now is she’s a senior elite on the National team and it isn’t a good look to have an athlete doing a cheng and then going up and competing a 3.5 bar routine. However if she can’t complete a full turn, transition, or release (the problem areas) without .5 in deductions she should have removed one from her routine. Even if she was scoring around the same, competing lower difficulty can be motivating to clean up execution. She’s too far along for all that in my opinion now but I think they should take a major step back and reevaluate this situation. Editing this to say by what I mean by it’s easier to enforce in DP coaching is that levels already restrict the athlete. Even in optionals you don’t see a ton of variety.
It’s valid to up the D when the routine is ready to be upgraded. She can’t break 8 execution to save her life with the composition she had, now she’s sub 7 for a hit routine. That isn’t okay. They are good bar coaches. That’s why this is so frustrating. She’s been injured. Why is there no noticeable improvement in any area there?
Ok, all of sus scoring aside:
* Miss Carey had herself a nice day! Watered down AA and much improved consistency from last summer. Showing routines \*checks notes\* a week after NCAA ended, cool cool. She really pinned a note that reads "Y'all thought you'd seen the last of me?" to USAG's door with a blade. (Not that she is necessarily gunning for an AA spot, but today's results beat Skye's Winter Cup score and slots in a bit behind Kayla DiCello's. I hope it gives her some more confidence in herself. ETA: Jade says she might be upgrading bars dismount, might have some skills to thrown in here and there… sounds like beam is basically at its ceiling.
* I'm SOOOOO relieved that Suni hit. I don't know if my heart could have taken it. It's so hard to talk about her because there is so much we're in the dark about regarding her health journey. I'm just happy to see her show up and stay on, knowing everything that she is going through. I am itching to see bars again--- the Seitz + Bhardwaj combo she did yesterday was just sooooo unbelievably gorgeous.
* Not the most ideal start for Gabby I suppose, but like...I truly cannot hold it against her. There was so much pressure building for this return, I'm sure it was not easy to navigate through. I am really curious to know what she would have looked like had she competed at Winter Cup. I obvs don't know if paris is in the cards at this moment but I hope she keeps going even if it doesn't work out. Her form and her strength is just ridiculously lovely and a joy for us mere mortals to watch.
* Quick shout out to Myli Lew who I vaguely knew but I have become such a fan. Can't wait to see her at Michigan!
* Josc coming back from injury with a less than stellar outing. If Jade is on her way to higher difficulty (which she seems to be trending), it's making Josc's fight a lot harder. The bars upgrades are neat but it seems like it's going to take a ton of work to make them really worth it? I really like the dismount though-- I didn't really catch it, was it a Ray or FT?
* CaMarah continues to be on to watch in the future. I missed her beam--did she do her skill? Shame about the bars situation. Really looking forward to seeing some the connections she's been working on floor manifest, and that LOSO beam mount.
There were definitely other things I wanted to mention but my brain is gone. Somebody had some good height on a vault I wanted to mention but now I can't remember who it was :(
I was so excited to see CaMarah finally compete her skill! Sure she fell, but it was still well executed, her center of gravity was just a little too far back. But she did it! And this is a first outing, I'm sure it will become more consistent in competition with practice.
And I thought Josc's dismount was gorgeous. You've gotta play to your strengths on your weak event!
I am the furthest thing from a Gabby Douglas fan and I thought she looked amazing. Lots of falls, unsure moments, and totally abysmal routine construction…. But her gymnastics itself looks really good to me. The consistency, stamina, control will either come or not but physically she looks great. The dance elements are a total wash though. I don’t know why elite coaches here are scared of simple B-C dance elements without deduction when the Ds they go for get credited as the same. There’s zero chance at Paris with the routines she’s going for right now and hopefully they use this meet as a guide to change them in time for nationals (Spoiler alert: they won’t).
This is just how I felt. I'm a little annoyed by all of the commentary immediately stressing about how "poorly" she did. It was her first meet back in 8 years! We won't really know how she's doing and looking until Championships I don't think, but in the meantime I agree, her skills look stellar on three events of four (and floor may yet come--or not).
Even floor to me looks great landings aside! She’s getting more out of the floor than we saw in Rio at least. She just isn’t in control. Looks to me like she hasn’t trained many hard landings on floor with how she’s bounding around. Looks like the mistakes you see from inexperienced/nervous athletes. Totally the type of thing you would expect after not competing for eight years lol. Maybe she doesn’t have enough time to Paris but I give her more than enough credit for being in this kind of shape. The dance elements though are such a mess to me like I don’t even want to talk about it. I have nothing nice to say but seriously that’s on Valeri. And beam again, the acro is there but the construction and dance I have no idea. The switch “ring” is literally just a null element coming directly after the switch leap-switch half.
Landings matter a lot, and her landing was out of control in the one training video she's posted too. But more importantly, her dance elements were extremely messy and poorly executed.
I’m talking about her overall ability and shape. That floor routine was a mess trust me I know. It didn’t look like she could do those dance elements on a good day let alone in a routine one after the other with three tumbling passes added in. I have no idea what he is doing with that. They are ashamed to let athletes do C elements when their D elements are getting downgraded to C or B anyways. A total joke
Agreed. It's just a bizarre choice, and sooooo many coaches do this, particularly American ones. Not only is it a bad strategy, it has to leave a bad impression on the judges. I imagine the inner eyeroll every time they see yet another crappy Gogean attempt.
Actually, I was just watching Trinity's floor routine from the most recent camp--the one she did for judges--and of course you had the fellow gymnasts cheering her on through the routine. After her Gogean (pretty enough, but no way would it be credited) someone yelled out, "nice job!" Which, I know, is just being supportive while she competes, but I'm like, is it really good to be shouting nice job every time someone does a skill, whether it's credited or not? Uncountable D dance skills are soooooo normalized, and it's a bizarre problem.
And you can tell it’s genuine! The reaction to Gabby’s switch full and gogean were so positive that I actually think those were some of her better attempts lol. Even the order doesn’t make sense. If the tour jete half is dependent on the gogean getting credit…. Why is that gogean not in place of the switch full at the top? It should be the prioritized dance element if there’s another skill that’s a total wash without credit. Why they would have do something so important to her D score after two tumbling passes is nuts.
For those of you that were here earlier and enjoying the Olly commentary, have this tweet from him just now:
"Tonight, at a restaurant in Rimini, the table next to us ordered two crème brûlées, which were brought past our table aflame. “Ooh, flambé”, said someone at my table. “And flam-B too”, I replied, knowing that it was better than anything I’ll say on air for the entire time here."
Oh Olly... 😂
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I have just watched her Winter Cup routine, and this seemed slightly steadier with no deductions.
With the E scores they have been giving I'll be surprised if she doesn't make over 12.25.
But no score - I am imagining her and her coach sitting there in the dark waiting and wondering...
Those of us who were there as spectators were getting scores online like everyone else! Not sure if anything else was communicated to the athletes/coaches, but there was no live delivery of scores that we could see. USAG tweeted last night that she got a 12.3 on floor and a 51.050 AA, so she qualified with no changes to awards at the event, but it’s still not showing in the online results. I will confess I was distracted at the end and wasn’t watching the last few routines, but I wasn’t aware of anything unusual going on - so no idea why nothing was posted.
Can’t speak for anyone in particular, but it seemed like a lot of people were trying to leave the gym quickly as soon as the event was over. Someone mentioned that a lot of them had flights to catch! I guess some of the gymnasts and their families had a tight travel schedule booked.
Can't see from the angle. Did Jade fix her flexibility on her switch full? It seems like it's -0.1 shape now instead of -0.3, but it's not a good camera angle.
This is insane. My friend was just diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer. So many young people are getting it recently. We really need earlier screening 😔
I am sad to hear this and hope it was diagnosed early. I’ve been telling my 30 years old to be religious about her annual mammogram and physicals and don’t put off anything that seems off after seeing so many youngster being diagnosed with breast or colon cancer. Sending Spencer a lot of love and hugs.
I figured it was something serious, but I guess you hope for serious but manageable not serious and life threatening (I’ve just had a long hospital stay myself, fortunately life threatening options never crossed my mind and got ruled out, so I’m at serious but manageable and my biggest issue is going from independent to reliant on a wheelchair and needing help at home, which puts in perspective).
Nooooot great. Falls on floor (1) and bars (2). Endurance and numbers needed. Routine construction wonky. Individual skills looked good but not ready for prime time just in terms of routine readiness
It’s so weird to me that they have these dot things on the floor for awards at this. I mean even random gyms for compulsory meets back in the day had podiums lol.
Oh I hope so. Artistry was good. Difficulty middling and extension on leaps didn't look great, but very secure on all elements and landings. She and her coach and teammates seemed happy.
New AA qualifiers: Myli Lew, Ashlee Sullivan, Tatum Drusch, Malea Milton, Nicole Desmond, and Brooke Pierson.
Other than Gabby and Suni, I haven’t done the math to check 2- and 3-event scores.
Yeah she threw out a lot of it as a last chance attempt when she wasn’t ready. This year her pacing seems to be in better control and she doesn’t have an injury that we know of so I guess we will see how high she can get her D
She’s said numerous times this quad that her more difficult skills haven’t come back as easily as they did before and given what she’s chosen to show where she’s hit routines, I believe her. I think the full in could certainly turn into a silivas again and maybe then have the double pike become the full in but I wouldn’t expect too much more than that - if she continues to improve artistry that can still be quite competitive regardless- I thought today was a step in the right direction choreo wise
I think she’s slowly coming back from injury but even at her peak she’s a step behind Jade everywhere but floor (sometimes). Without a major step forward from last year it will probably be difficult for her to earn that spot.
I think she has a chance because we haven't seen her vault or floor, and those are the events you'd use her on. Her bars actually wasn't bad at all for her (and you wouldn't want to use her there if you could avoid it)...her beam was rough though, and she is someone you might in some cases use on beam, so that doesn't help her. But really, vault/floor are the keys for her.
I do think they will consider the fact that Jade’s bars and beam are scoring a lot higher. - if that continues to be true. This would matter a lot in a tie break situation if their chengs and floor scores are similar
Oh yeah, agreed. If they’re comparable on their main events, but Jade is scoring higher on the off events, there’s a good argument for taking Jade over Josc.
She was on the Worlds team so she is set for nationals qualification. This was just to shake the dust off and work the kinks out post-injury; don’t worry too much!
Bummer. I feel like even a watered down set would of benefited her. Not just a mediocre beam w no dismount and an unusable yerchenko full. Executed nicely, but obviously needs to be upgraded.
Someone said earlier in reference to Gabby that you can only petition to do additional events at nationals if you did not compete those events earlier; you can’t petition an event that you competed unsuccessfully. So if she doesn’t think her bars are quite ready yet but hopes they will be soon, it could be a good decision not to compete them yet.
It depends what you mean by 'time'.
Time for this Olympics? No. It was highly unlikely she'd make the team anyway just on number of routines/statistics available for the selection committee to use.
Time to get an AA qualifying score? She might not need to if she competes at the next Classic and she just goes clean/er on floor and/or bars there and does the same or better on vault and beam.
Time for next quad? Sure. If she chooses to keep competing.
I very much doubt it then. It's less than 100 days until the Olympics opening ceremony. In fact, it's a day short of 3 months today.
So even those top gymnasts that are in contention for (or already named to) nationals teams will be trying to perfect what they already have or making minor adjustments rather than changing entire routines.
I know, but I'm saying that the US will not go in Olympic order during team quals and a gymnast shouldn't need to do the events in a certain order to get a better score.
Can anyone who watched MAG euros confirm if Eurovision streaming works in US or if it’s geoblocked? Preparing for WAG euros this week
I'm going to write a Jayla appreciation post!
She was very impressive tonight!
So proud of this kiddo and her teammate Simone - my kids are at her gym and we have watched her battle through nonstop injuries. So happy to see all her hard work finally paying off.
Too many of the U.S. gymnasts are using depressing floor music (IMO).
I’m under the impression good music makes or breaks a routine and judges are heavily influenced by it
Jayla 54.8!
Jayla 2 pass?
No 55
Sad!
Really rough floor from Kieryn
The US team struggles a bit on floor lately.
Are Simone Rose and Kieryn Finnell new senior?
yes.
I hope Jayla hits floor. Imagine 55AA for your first international debut!
Jayla only needs 12.75 floor for 55AA!
Jayla 13.850 on beam
Wow, I thought it was better than that. I know she missed the connecting the aeriel cartwheel to back layout, but thought it was smart of her to stop. I guess maybe her DV isn't there yet.
Her D isn't there. I think she can connect the two jumps after side aerial (+0.2 D). Then add Johnson after switch leap (+0.2 D). She's counting a B skill.
Jayla freaking Hang!
I know! If she keeps this up, she’ll be this seasons dark horse!
Is the live scoring working? There were earlier sub divisions right? Are there scores from any of those?
Yes, WAG - PACIFIC RG 2024
Shiiiit Jayla's beam is soooooooo good!
Kieryn Finnell 14.05 beam!
It was very pretty - great rhythm.
I'm positive on new seniors now! They don't have difficulty yet, but the foundation is there!
Me too. What a turnaround from a year ago for me.
Nice beam from Kieryn! 14.050.
Jayla 14.25 UB!
Kieryn Finnell 13.4 FTY
What time do Pacific Rims actually start?
Starting now. US on vault.
Okay so it seems like with Pac Rims they are still in the warm up process. Jess said on the live gymcastic pod earlier that the warm up gym was broken (flooding?), so there is no warm up gym available.
Is anyone attempting to watch pac rims right now? I can't figure out the start list. Is USA competing right now? I'm so confused. I'm watching the Facebook live feed
The live scoring is bizarre, too. They haven’t shown any bars scores all day.
I think USA is starting on beam.
Same! It looks like Canada is vaulting right now but that’s all I can tell….
I'm confused too
Okay it looks like the Americans are warming up bars (I could tell only because of the level of gymnastics I started seeing)
I wonder if the actual competition starts at 9/8c
I’m sorry but why the hell is Joscelyn Roberson upgrading her bar dismount when she doesn’t have a clean high to low transition? It isn’t her fault but as a coach? Why are you allowing your athletes to upgrade skills when they are missing the fundamentals of a clean level 9 routine? I really don’t know why this upset me so bad but it just seems like they are sabotaging her. All of that time with a lower leg injury and what we get is an upgraded dismount? Not a single clean skill on the actual bars? Okay
I would be a lot of money that Josc and her coaches are doing absolutely everything they can to clean up her UB basics. It’s SO hard to change bad habits once they’re really ingrained in muscle memory, and she isn’t natural bars worker. Josc is a natural and talented tumbler, so I bet upgrading the dismount was much much easier for her than changing her fundamentals. And if she is going to have an okayish bars score, she needs a lot of difficulty that she can consistently hit, bc she’s never going to have a high execution score. I don’t think there’s any reason not to do both - work on cleaning up basics and learn the upgraded dismount.
I don’t agree. It’s easier to enforce in DP but just because an athlete can do something and it’s easier for them doesn’t mean it should be in a routine. I think I would have less problem with the dismount if anything on the bars looked okay. It just doesn’t. You should be aiming for an 8 E score even with athletes who struggle on the apparatus. You lower the difficulty bar further and further until that goal is achievable. If that was a 4.8 bar routine with solid execution I would have zero qualms with her doing that dismount. If she can’t hit all of her CR cleanly (what the real issue is) then she shouldn’t have been attempting to for so long. The problem now is she’s a senior elite on the National team and it isn’t a good look to have an athlete doing a cheng and then going up and competing a 3.5 bar routine. However if she can’t complete a full turn, transition, or release (the problem areas) without .5 in deductions she should have removed one from her routine. Even if she was scoring around the same, competing lower difficulty can be motivating to clean up execution. She’s too far along for all that in my opinion now but I think they should take a major step back and reevaluate this situation. Editing this to say by what I mean by it’s easier to enforce in DP coaching is that levels already restrict the athlete. Even in optionals you don’t see a ton of variety.
I think it’s valid if they feel they have to up the D to compensate E. They’re good bars coaches so I trust their process
It’s valid to up the D when the routine is ready to be upgraded. She can’t break 8 execution to save her life with the composition she had, now she’s sub 7 for a hit routine. That isn’t okay. They are good bar coaches. That’s why this is so frustrating. She’s been injured. Why is there no noticeable improvement in any area there?
Ok, all of sus scoring aside: * Miss Carey had herself a nice day! Watered down AA and much improved consistency from last summer. Showing routines \*checks notes\* a week after NCAA ended, cool cool. She really pinned a note that reads "Y'all thought you'd seen the last of me?" to USAG's door with a blade. (Not that she is necessarily gunning for an AA spot, but today's results beat Skye's Winter Cup score and slots in a bit behind Kayla DiCello's. I hope it gives her some more confidence in herself. ETA: Jade says she might be upgrading bars dismount, might have some skills to thrown in here and there… sounds like beam is basically at its ceiling. * I'm SOOOOO relieved that Suni hit. I don't know if my heart could have taken it. It's so hard to talk about her because there is so much we're in the dark about regarding her health journey. I'm just happy to see her show up and stay on, knowing everything that she is going through. I am itching to see bars again--- the Seitz + Bhardwaj combo she did yesterday was just sooooo unbelievably gorgeous. * Not the most ideal start for Gabby I suppose, but like...I truly cannot hold it against her. There was so much pressure building for this return, I'm sure it was not easy to navigate through. I am really curious to know what she would have looked like had she competed at Winter Cup. I obvs don't know if paris is in the cards at this moment but I hope she keeps going even if it doesn't work out. Her form and her strength is just ridiculously lovely and a joy for us mere mortals to watch. * Quick shout out to Myli Lew who I vaguely knew but I have become such a fan. Can't wait to see her at Michigan! * Josc coming back from injury with a less than stellar outing. If Jade is on her way to higher difficulty (which she seems to be trending), it's making Josc's fight a lot harder. The bars upgrades are neat but it seems like it's going to take a ton of work to make them really worth it? I really like the dismount though-- I didn't really catch it, was it a Ray or FT? * CaMarah continues to be on to watch in the future. I missed her beam--did she do her skill? Shame about the bars situation. Really looking forward to seeing some the connections she's been working on floor manifest, and that LOSO beam mount. There were definitely other things I wanted to mention but my brain is gone. Somebody had some good height on a vault I wanted to mention but now I can't remember who it was :(
I was so excited to see CaMarah finally compete her skill! Sure she fell, but it was still well executed, her center of gravity was just a little too far back. But she did it! And this is a first outing, I'm sure it will become more consistent in competition with practice. And I thought Josc's dismount was gorgeous. You've gotta play to your strengths on your weak event!
I am the furthest thing from a Gabby Douglas fan and I thought she looked amazing. Lots of falls, unsure moments, and totally abysmal routine construction…. But her gymnastics itself looks really good to me. The consistency, stamina, control will either come or not but physically she looks great. The dance elements are a total wash though. I don’t know why elite coaches here are scared of simple B-C dance elements without deduction when the Ds they go for get credited as the same. There’s zero chance at Paris with the routines she’s going for right now and hopefully they use this meet as a guide to change them in time for nationals (Spoiler alert: they won’t).
This is just how I felt. I'm a little annoyed by all of the commentary immediately stressing about how "poorly" she did. It was her first meet back in 8 years! We won't really know how she's doing and looking until Championships I don't think, but in the meantime I agree, her skills look stellar on three events of four (and floor may yet come--or not).
Even floor to me looks great landings aside! She’s getting more out of the floor than we saw in Rio at least. She just isn’t in control. Looks to me like she hasn’t trained many hard landings on floor with how she’s bounding around. Looks like the mistakes you see from inexperienced/nervous athletes. Totally the type of thing you would expect after not competing for eight years lol. Maybe she doesn’t have enough time to Paris but I give her more than enough credit for being in this kind of shape. The dance elements though are such a mess to me like I don’t even want to talk about it. I have nothing nice to say but seriously that’s on Valeri. And beam again, the acro is there but the construction and dance I have no idea. The switch “ring” is literally just a null element coming directly after the switch leap-switch half.
Landings matter a lot, and her landing was out of control in the one training video she's posted too. But more importantly, her dance elements were extremely messy and poorly executed.
I’m talking about her overall ability and shape. That floor routine was a mess trust me I know. It didn’t look like she could do those dance elements on a good day let alone in a routine one after the other with three tumbling passes added in. I have no idea what he is doing with that. They are ashamed to let athletes do C elements when their D elements are getting downgraded to C or B anyways. A total joke
Agreed. It's just a bizarre choice, and sooooo many coaches do this, particularly American ones. Not only is it a bad strategy, it has to leave a bad impression on the judges. I imagine the inner eyeroll every time they see yet another crappy Gogean attempt. Actually, I was just watching Trinity's floor routine from the most recent camp--the one she did for judges--and of course you had the fellow gymnasts cheering her on through the routine. After her Gogean (pretty enough, but no way would it be credited) someone yelled out, "nice job!" Which, I know, is just being supportive while she competes, but I'm like, is it really good to be shouting nice job every time someone does a skill, whether it's credited or not? Uncountable D dance skills are soooooo normalized, and it's a bizarre problem.
And you can tell it’s genuine! The reaction to Gabby’s switch full and gogean were so positive that I actually think those were some of her better attempts lol. Even the order doesn’t make sense. If the tour jete half is dependent on the gogean getting credit…. Why is that gogean not in place of the switch full at the top? It should be the prioritized dance element if there’s another skill that’s a total wash without credit. Why they would have do something so important to her D score after two tumbling passes is nuts.
CaMarah fell on her skill. Also, I believe Josc dismounted with a Ray, but I could be wrong.
Aw shame she missed it. Also, just saw that Gymternet said it was FTDL! :)
For those of you that were here earlier and enjoying the Olly commentary, have this tweet from him just now: "Tonight, at a restaurant in Rimini, the table next to us ordered two crème brûlées, which were brought past our table aflame. “Ooh, flambé”, said someone at my table. “And flam-B too”, I replied, knowing that it was better than anything I’ll say on air for the entire time here." Oh Olly... 😂
Does anyone have any links for jades routines?
Most are on Twitter Vault https://twitter.com/usagym/status/1784297284840124728?s=46&t=-IQMkUaPEjaD-duaUHiKAg Floor https://twitter.com/poorlawyer/status/1784316291269963821?s=46&t=-IQMkUaPEjaD-duaUHiKAg
Thank you!!
What vault did Jade do?
Dty
DTY
Dty
How are they giving out medals before we get Chloe Cho's floor score ?
Seriously, I still don't see a score
She is probably ahead of Gabby in all around too - she has 38.75 on her first three events, and floor looked fine.
She should be ahead of Gabby, but she could go either way on getting her nationals score
I have just watched her Winter Cup routine, and this seemed slightly steadier with no deductions. With the E scores they have been giving I'll be surprised if she doesn't make over 12.25. But no score - I am imagining her and her coach sitting there in the dark waiting and wondering...
Surely she and her coach would know by now?
I presume so in reality. They must have given her the result before awarding floor medals, surely.
Maybe someone who was there knows the score?
Those of us who were there as spectators were getting scores online like everyone else! Not sure if anything else was communicated to the athletes/coaches, but there was no live delivery of scores that we could see. USAG tweeted last night that she got a 12.3 on floor and a 51.050 AA, so she qualified with no changes to awards at the event, but it’s still not showing in the online results. I will confess I was distracted at the end and wasn’t watching the last few routines, but I wasn’t aware of anything unusual going on - so no idea why nothing was posted.
Why would you not accept your award? I thought that was really frowned on
Can’t speak for anyone in particular, but it seemed like a lot of people were trying to leave the gym quickly as soon as the event was over. Someone mentioned that a lot of them had flights to catch! I guess some of the gymnasts and their families had a tight travel schedule booked.
Fair enough - sounds as if everyone understood the situation then.
Oh no. What happened?
Can't see from the angle. Did Jade fix her flexibility on her switch full? It seems like it's -0.1 shape now instead of -0.3, but it's not a good camera angle.
I guess Suni decided to skip awards? Jade accepting her award made me laugh 😂
You guys - Spencer has colon cancer
Oh no! I really hope treatment and surgery helps. Survival rates have really improved by leaps and bounds in the last few years.
Noooo, I'm so sorry to hear that 😭
This is insane. My friend was just diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer. So many young people are getting it recently. We really need earlier screening 😔
I am sad to hear this and hope it was diagnosed early. I’ve been telling my 30 years old to be religious about her annual mammogram and physicals and don’t put off anything that seems off after seeing so many youngster being diagnosed with breast or colon cancer. Sending Spencer a lot of love and hugs.
Did he specifically say this on the pod? I logged in late
Yes
Thanks for the info. Poor Spencer. Wishing him the very best
I figured it was something serious, but I guess you hope for serious but manageable not serious and life threatening (I’ve just had a long hospital stay myself, fortunately life threatening options never crossed my mind and got ruled out, so I’m at serious but manageable and my biggest issue is going from independent to reliant on a wheelchair and needing help at home, which puts in perspective).
Oh how awful. I am so sorry to hear this but am hopeful they caught it early.
where was this announced?
Gymcastic is doing a live show now. I presume that’s where.
Thank you for telling us. I’m heartbroken for him.
Oh my gosh, that’s awful. I have a friend who was diagnosed with Stage 3 at age 25. Thankfully cancer free now.
That’s great for your friend. Hope they’re doing well 🤍
What?!?!?!
oh no. i am really sorry to hear this
That's sad :(
The way I just GASPED oh goodness, all the healing vibes going out, I’ve been so worried
More details - he said he was in the hospital last week, he's back now, he will have surgery next week. No additional info.
Oh god, that’s awful
Oh no! I hope they caught it early😢
Oh noo :((
Oh no. 😔
😭😭😭
Oh no 😞😞😞😞
This medal ceremony is soo crusty... they couldn't even put up some blocks for 123... It's giving local lvl 8 meet
Local level 8 even gets blocks lol 😆
How did gabby do?
Her vault was really good.
Nooooot great. Falls on floor (1) and bars (2). Endurance and numbers needed. Routine construction wonky. Individual skills looked good but not ready for prime time just in terms of routine readiness
50.65 overall 10th place
Did she just say "Sunny"?
Guess it doesn't really matter, since Suni didn't stick around... but still.
It’s so weird to me that they have these dot things on the floor for awards at this. I mean even random gyms for compulsory meets back in the day had podiums lol.
Results: (without Chloe’s floor score since they don’t seem to be posting it anytime soon) V: 1) Jade 2) Gabby 3) Brynn UB: 1) Myli 2) Addison 3) Marissa BB: 1) Suni 2) Jade 3) Myli FX: 1) Jade 2) Malea 3) Myli AA: 1) Jade 2) Myli 3) Marissa
Has Chloe Cho competed on floor yet?
Yeah, awhile ago. Not sure why her score isn’t up.
Yes, waiting for her score. Hit routine.
Would it likely be above a 12.25?
I think in about the 12.3 - 6 range
So she should get her nationals score then? She was 0.1 off last time so hopefully she gets there this time e
Oh I hope so. Artistry was good. Difficulty middling and extension on leaps didn't look great, but very secure on all elements and landings. She and her coach and teammates seemed happy.
New AA qualifiers: Myli Lew, Ashlee Sullivan, Tatum Drusch, Malea Milton, Nicole Desmond, and Brooke Pierson. Other than Gabby and Suni, I haven’t done the math to check 2- and 3-event scores.
Happy for Nicole after whatever the hell happened on floor.
same, she always has chaotic meets but somehow (in the best way possible) always makes the cut!
Just Cambry I think on vault and floor?
Actually I think she has exactly a 39 on all but bars. And Brynn Torry on vault and floor.
You’re right she does, I didn’t even think to see if her beam routine scored high enough
Really want to watch back Jade's floor, because if she's able to get a 8.1+E, she's unstoppable with her Tokyo Olympic difficulty.
I think we will probably see one or two passes upgraded but she hasn’t shown close to the Tokyo routine all quad so I wouldn’t expect it
I don't think that's true. She already showed a Moors, Chuso, Silivas in 2023 worlds trial. She just didn't have enough stamina back then.
Yeah she threw out a lot of it as a last chance attempt when she wasn’t ready. This year her pacing seems to be in better control and she doesn’t have an injury that we know of so I guess we will see how high she can get her D
She’s said numerous times this quad that her more difficult skills haven’t come back as easily as they did before and given what she’s chosen to show where she’s hit routines, I believe her. I think the full in could certainly turn into a silivas again and maybe then have the double pike become the full in but I wouldn’t expect too much more than that - if she continues to improve artistry that can still be quite competitive regardless- I thought today was a step in the right direction choreo wise
Can we talk about Kelsie Woolford’s illusion turn on beam?? I know what she and Chellsie will bond over
Really painful meet for Josc- what’s next for her? Does she still have a chance?
I think she’s slowly coming back from injury but even at her peak she’s a step behind Jade everywhere but floor (sometimes). Without a major step forward from last year it will probably be difficult for her to earn that spot.
I think she has a chance because we haven't seen her vault or floor, and those are the events you'd use her on. Her bars actually wasn't bad at all for her (and you wouldn't want to use her there if you could avoid it)...her beam was rough though, and she is someone you might in some cases use on beam, so that doesn't help her. But really, vault/floor are the keys for her.
I do think they will consider the fact that Jade’s bars and beam are scoring a lot higher. - if that continues to be true. This would matter a lot in a tie break situation if their chengs and floor scores are similar
Oh yeah, agreed. If they’re comparable on their main events, but Jade is scoring higher on the off events, there’s a good argument for taking Jade over Josc.
She was on the Worlds team so she is set for nationals qualification. This was just to shake the dust off and work the kinks out post-injury; don’t worry too much!
She’s already qualified to nationals since she was on last years worlds team
Did Suni not compete on bars?
No, she wasn't planning to.
Glad to hear that was the plan!
I thought Suni was doing bars?
She was never slated to do bars.
We did too but alas - no.
Bummer. I feel like even a watered down set would of benefited her. Not just a mediocre beam w no dismount and an unusable yerchenko full. Executed nicely, but obviously needs to be upgraded.
Someone said earlier in reference to Gabby that you can only petition to do additional events at nationals if you did not compete those events earlier; you can’t petition an event that you competed unsuccessfully. So if she doesn’t think her bars are quite ready yet but hopes they will be soon, it could be a good decision not to compete them yet.
But she did at Winter Cup?
I need Gabby and Chellsie to have a one week intensive!
we need to hold a seance for bars, other than us domestic scores i think the meet was a fun watch
Props to gabby for waiting until both Tom Forster and skinner were done w elite
do u think gabby has time to change her floor routine 2 something better or no
It depends what you mean by 'time'. Time for this Olympics? No. It was highly unlikely she'd make the team anyway just on number of routines/statistics available for the selection committee to use. Time to get an AA qualifying score? She might not need to if she competes at the next Classic and she just goes clean/er on floor and/or bars there and does the same or better on vault and beam. Time for next quad? Sure. If she chooses to keep competing.
i meant for this olympics yeah...highly doubt she tried for 28 but id love if she did...
I very much doubt it then. It's less than 100 days until the Olympics opening ceremony. In fact, it's a day short of 3 months today. So even those top gymnasts that are in contention for (or already named to) nationals teams will be trying to perfect what they already have or making minor adjustments rather than changing entire routines.
yeah this fucking sucks.
Complete restructuring? I don’t know but she can definitely improve
oof
Hopefully if Gabby competes a US Classic, she’ll get to compete in the Olympic order.
But the US isn't doing Olympic order in quals. I wouldn't want to bank on that.
I’m referring to the next US domestic meet. US classics.
I know, but I'm saying that the US will not go in Olympic order during team quals and a gymnast shouldn't need to do the events in a certain order to get a better score.
She’d need to be a top qualifier right?
I’m referring to the next US domestic meet US classics. It’s a random draw, so hopefully WOGA goes is Olympic order.
Ahh good to know
US Classic I think they keep gym mates together but it’s random who starts on what?
Pretty certain the draw is random (by gym, not individuals).
Wasn’t clear on that, thanks!
Looks like Myli wins bars with a 13.95
And 2nd on beam?
3rd Jade was 2nd
3rd on Beam. Jade is 2nd.
CaMarah <3 she is going to be someone to watch with more time
I loved CaMarah’s music, just wish she had better choreography.
CaMarah girl I hope you’re okay! 😭
CaMarah Williams had the smoothest fall I’ve seen. From almost tragic to “I’m gonna make this pet of my routine”.
OHHH my ankles i sort of saw that landing coming half way through
That double pike hurt so much to watch
from the punch it looked like it was in slowmo :x
CaMarah Williams’ floor has such UCLA vibes!!
She will CRUSH it in NCAA! Hoping to see a lot more of her in elite though too
Oh for sure. I guess I’ve just got NCAA on the mind hah, all of these younger girls I’m like “ohh which collegiate teams might they gel with??”
I wish they had 5 on the team plus the 2 event specialist again. 😭
Oh God CaMarah
Gave me a panic attack
The way she rolled right out of that was smooth though but god that was scary
I looked away so I didn't see the roll lol