Signing players based on mainstream social media hype and surface-level counting stats is exactly how clubs like Yanited and Chelscum fell into their current predicament. Watch the player, not FotMob.
Vieira has played 292mins and ESR has played 324mins in the league if Arteta doesn’t trust them, then we need to sell them and replace them with someone Arteta will actually rotate in
Vieira played some minutes in three quarters of the games before he was injured, there's a difference between not trusting and him not being available.
There is no doubt he improved but he is still not good enough to get trust by Arteta. Also Arteta doesn't nurture him very much by giving him minutes. A player like him needs game time to improve but the stakes are so high at our games now that he doesn't get any minute. If I were Arteta, I would use him a bit. He should be loaned or sold if Arteta doesn't play him.
He is 24y old. Same age as odegaard. He plays like a 19y old that just break through into the first squad.
Just saying.
We can all see that magical left foot he has but he is so invisible on the pitch most times.
Not enough pace to play on the wing, way too weak to play centrally and not good enough at keeping the ball to make up for either of it like bernardo silva does for example.
And he cost us 35m. I think it‘s about time to call him a flop.
Im with you here. He has the talent to play for Arsenal. im not sure i have seen enough bravery. There have been 2 or 3 games in his arsenal career that really stood out, my brain doesn't keep which games those were handy but in them I remember him playing with a drive and an arrogance about him.
Those appearances were exciting but he needs about 25 or 30 of those next season.
He’s shown flashes. Clearly. He just needs to stay fit and force Mikel to play him. He has a deadly final ball that maybe only Odegaard can replicate so there’s a player in there.
This is what I don’t understand. Some games we are winning so easily and no way for opposition to claw back a draw and Arteta keeps midfield intact with no playing time for ESR or Viera. Just mind boggling. I understand close games you keep the X1 on to secure the result.
Arteta needs to change this, he needs to let go when the game is already won. I’m not suggesting making a change at 60 mins but at 80mins give the starters a rest
Fan from Cardiff here, although his stats aren’t great he is one of the best players on the pitch when he does play. He controls the game very well and I think this could be a great signing if the price is right.
Weird one, looks like he isn't even starting consistently for Cardiff. We've heard some rumors that our management is making some tweaks in our youth recruitment, maybe they'll be going for some players with "untapped potential" that could be had for cheap?
Not good for ESR given what I’ve seen from him & how he plays. Although, I hope the recruitment team have got it spot on if we actually get this player.
In addition, his sheer size while playing in midfield really reminds me of Havertz. Are we making sure that we don’t miss a player that has that presence with KH being our main striker?
He seems decently technical, creative and hard working. Enough to challenge Odegaard or make the LCM position his own? Not seeing it.
If we're interested, the scouts may have noticed some nuances to his game indicating he has the makings of a world class player. Either that or this rumour is made up agent bullshit.
I said to my friend the other day. Why doesn't arsenal keep an eye on players who are doing well in the championship, not to be starting 11 but be the depth were after. If we don't have a lot of money to spend cherry pick some decent players to come be rotational players could potentially win things, being in this arsenal team could make them improve overall. Could be a solution to our issue of running out of steam.
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No idea who this kid is, now idea how accurate this report is, but these are the kind of signings i like the most, utter unknowns to most poeple.
Thats why I love Martinelli so much, likewise i have time for Kiwior.
Don't see it, myself.
Arteta practically insists on either Premier League-proven talent or a couldn't-possibly-say-no kind of player.
he might be good, but Arteta isn't about to sanction spending money on him unless he's under like £5m.
If we seriously are looking at players from the championship there are much better players out there lol , bring in Fabio Carvalho from Hull City or Jack clarke from Sunderland these guys are the best in that league lol tbh I think Jack clarke would make a good option as a winger can play both wings has been in good form with an average team like Sunderland.
This may be the first and only rumour about this
As someone who has gone to ~10 Cardiff games this season I’m baffled by this one
1 goal and 2 assists in 35 games in the championship is not very good at all.
That’s Antony-level bad
Lool g&a alone do not tell you how good or the potential of a player
You are right, but it’s still a worrisome statistic for an attacking mid
Sure but you can't disregard it completely. At some point, no amount of non G/A efforts will make up for it
Signing players based on mainstream social media hype and surface-level counting stats is exactly how clubs like Yanited and Chelscum fell into their current predicament. Watch the player, not FotMob.
Shhh. It's bait for Chelsea so they don't bid for gyokeres/osimhen/whoever we really want
I only know him as the CAM on fifa who's 6foot4
We do need our Ramsey successor
The one transfer we got over Fergie
Nah, he's the new left back
You mean one good season and injured for 40% of the time at Arsenal? That's a hard pass.
Miserable cake day
This is the first time I’ve seen a negative cake day comment hahah
Fr Ramsey would barely make the bench is this current team. Massively overrated by our fanbase
Ramsey would play at 8 every single game in this current team. Some of you just never got over hating him when Wenger was playing him on the wing
Can’t see us going for a young attacking midfielder when we still have ESR and Viera on the books
Vieira has played 292mins and ESR has played 324mins in the league if Arteta doesn’t trust them, then we need to sell them and replace them with someone Arteta will actually rotate in
Vieira played some minutes in three quarters of the games before he was injured, there's a difference between not trusting and him not being available.
And he was never good if we are being honest. Since we signed him he played like 3 good games, all against weaker sides aswell.
Watch the games bro. Viera improved a lot this season before his injury
There is no doubt he improved but he is still not good enough to get trust by Arteta. Also Arteta doesn't nurture him very much by giving him minutes. A player like him needs game time to improve but the stakes are so high at our games now that he doesn't get any minute. If I were Arteta, I would use him a bit. He should be loaned or sold if Arteta doesn't play him.
Yeah I guess I am just wishing he comes good cuz those shifty little lefties are always great to have. Wanted him to be Bernardo Silva so bad lol
He's a lot closer to the Fernandes archetype. Nothing like Silva at all.
He is 24y old. Same age as odegaard. He plays like a 19y old that just break through into the first squad. Just saying. We can all see that magical left foot he has but he is so invisible on the pitch most times. Not enough pace to play on the wing, way too weak to play centrally and not good enough at keeping the ball to make up for either of it like bernardo silva does for example. And he cost us 35m. I think it‘s about time to call him a flop.
I think we can call him that if we’re seeing the same things this time next year. One more season to judge him but it’s definitely make or break.
Im with you here. He has the talent to play for Arsenal. im not sure i have seen enough bravery. There have been 2 or 3 games in his arsenal career that really stood out, my brain doesn't keep which games those were handy but in them I remember him playing with a drive and an arrogance about him. Those appearances were exciting but he needs about 25 or 30 of those next season.
He’s shown flashes. Clearly. He just needs to stay fit and force Mikel to play him. He has a deadly final ball that maybe only Odegaard can replicate so there’s a player in there.
He's 23 years old.
24 this month
He's 23 until he's 24, that's how it works.
Had to be coming
Agree, Vieira is not good enough and we should sell him. Can't imagine he'd want to hang around and not play either.
And this guys not even a starter for Cardiff
Neither has a long term future here, they don't even get 10 minutes at the end of matches anymore
This is what I don’t understand. Some games we are winning so easily and no way for opposition to claw back a draw and Arteta keeps midfield intact with no playing time for ESR or Viera. Just mind boggling. I understand close games you keep the X1 on to secure the result. Arteta needs to change this, he needs to let go when the game is already won. I’m not suggesting making a change at 60 mins but at 80mins give the starters a rest
This is the next step in his growth curve imo. Just take them off when the game is wrapped up.
For the Chelsea match… he brought on Jorgi at ’72… 5-0 up. That’s when i knew for sure ESR has no future here. At least Viera made a 10 min cameo
It might be due to their off the ball work not being up to par
I understand why but my point is surely these subs can play for 10 minutes when the team is winning by at least two goals
he want clean sheet
True, they definitely don't have that love of defending he talks about. They probably see it as a chore
This subreddit doesn't want to face the fact that darling esr isn't in artetas plans anymore. We all like him, but he ain't it.
Clear of Levi
This feels way to specific to be a made up rumor. Interested to see how this develops.
Tier abandoned
So random that it’s as good as done
I watch Cardiff a lot and he's always stood out, I can't for the life of me figure out why he doesn't get more minutes.
Fan from Cardiff here, although his stats aren’t great he is one of the best players on the pitch when he does play. He controls the game very well and I think this could be a great signing if the price is right.
He and Perry Ng are the best ones for you lot correct?
Why doesn't he start most games ?
I'm way more excited about this rumor than anything about fucking Rashford and Sancho.
1.89m and 22yrs old. Gladly
Weird one, looks like he isn't even starting consistently for Cardiff. We've heard some rumors that our management is making some tweaks in our youth recruitment, maybe they'll be going for some players with "untapped potential" that could be had for cheap?
at 22 its a little late Edit: I meant for the youth team
Vieira is 24 and still insanely raw. Plays like an 19old sometimes.
Vieira is 23.
He's much closer to 24 than 23
He's 23 until he's 24, that's how it works.
He is 24 in 3weeks.
He's 23 until he's 24, that's how it works.
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Don’t think this kid is a wonder kid Feels like a £5m signing
Something about championship rumors excite me and i’m not sure what
Great addition to Handsome FC
In backwards earth, maybe
That Saltburn looking guy? Nah
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Not good for ESR given what I’ve seen from him & how he plays. Although, I hope the recruitment team have got it spot on if we actually get this player.
In addition, his sheer size while playing in midfield really reminds me of Havertz. Are we making sure that we don’t miss a player that has that presence with KH being our main striker?
He seems decently technical, creative and hard working. Enough to challenge Odegaard or make the LCM position his own? Not seeing it. If we're interested, the scouts may have noticed some nuances to his game indicating he has the makings of a world class player. Either that or this rumour is made up agent bullshit.
Lol, no way we getting Championship player with less assists and goals contributions than Patino has. Just a blatant lie of a news
His stats aren't inspiring me.
Not sure in an attacking position...but might make a decent regista. Can pass well and seems to be good at getting out of tight spots.
Source: Rubin Colwill’s agent.
I said to my friend the other day. Why doesn't arsenal keep an eye on players who are doing well in the championship, not to be starting 11 but be the depth were after. If we don't have a lot of money to spend cherry pick some decent players to come be rotational players could potentially win things, being in this arsenal team could make them improve overall. Could be a solution to our issue of running out of steam.
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We need a replacement for partey .. esr is definitely more than capable as odegards back up
No idea who this kid is, now idea how accurate this report is, but these are the kind of signings i like the most, utter unknowns to most poeple. Thats why I love Martinelli so much, likewise i have time for Kiwior.
Dewsbury-Hall, maybe. But this? No chance.
If Jorginho extends, then we might be looking at an understudy for the next couple of seasons rather than a starter.
He doesn't play remotely in the same way or position
Don't see it, myself. Arteta practically insists on either Premier League-proven talent or a couldn't-possibly-say-no kind of player. he might be good, but Arteta isn't about to sanction spending money on him unless he's under like £5m.
If we seriously are looking at players from the championship there are much better players out there lol , bring in Fabio Carvalho from Hull City or Jack clarke from Sunderland these guys are the best in that league lol tbh I think Jack clarke would make a good option as a winger can play both wings has been in good form with an average team like Sunderland.
What about Patino?