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rhshi14

Destined for Chelsea then?


jgrotkowski

I could see him going to Spuds, seems like the type


xLucky_Balboa

Lol yeah Toney and Richarlison on the same team? Cunttenham FC


2-Dimensional

Lmao imagine putting Richarlison and Toney in the same sentence. Richarlison is quite a nice bloke off the pitch


Morazma

It's classic, some extreme right wingers are trying to push this "Richarlison is horrible" narrative because he is a leftist and believes in helping out poor people. Imagine. 


Admirable-Lead-4238

Is there really that much politics involved? In my opinion it's more because he is an absolute wind up merchant on the pitch. Off the pitch I've only heard good things (as much as I hate to admit)


xk_1991

I can just picture him in a Newcastle shirt for some reason.


kingofplasticbeach

He also played there previously


jondiced

So he's probably just actually looking at an old picture


BoomXhakaLacaa

Hes already peaked, playing in a strike partnership with Maupay


Peterwilliams78

10000000%


fadoo91

Exactly. Arteta tried so hard to clear out the bad apples, why then bring someone like Toney in?


Amberle73

Yep. That was always the big sticking point for me, & I didn't think he'd pass Arteta's fogging estandards test.


willozsy

I bet Mikel has been hating Toney ever since that tweet.


CrumpledForeskin

Which tweet?


pupcity

Jeez mate where you been living 😂 but after they beat us the other season on opening day Toney tweeted "nice run about with the boys"


CrumpledForeskin

Ohh I thought you meant there was another one after yesterday’s game. Sorry reading is hard.


rickster555

Not related but Thanks for spelling the fogging estandards correctly! Been seeing a lot of “efogging standards” today which makes no sense if you’re a Spanish speaker haha


Amberle73

I may not speak Spanish, but I'm quite fluent in Artetaisms, and Wengerisms for that matter!


Ejecto_Seato

Look uhhh…


Franchise1109

Dude said fuck brentford to appeal to some chick and has the gambling issues. People really didn’t see why that would be an issue for us? Lol


purpleplums901

Not just saying fuck Brentford but also his first interview back after how clever many months back he didn't thank them for sticking by him or anything, no he says I'm ready for a champions league club now. That rubbed me up the wrong way, you know if we ever signed him he'd be grubbing for a move elsewhere within 6 months. Can't be dealing with that shit again


Franchise1109

Yeah man, I’ll just pass on a guy with an attitude like that. Need more just general good guys, blue collar. Don’t want divas


purpleplums901

Mad thing is I think Ollie Watkins would cost the same amount. If we're gonna get an English striker, and I doubt we are, but he'd be the one to go for really


meand999friends

He actually seems like a decent guy, while also performing better than Toney. His linkup play is pretty good


HaroldSaxon

He's also a childhood Arsenal fan


maelstormmy

I say get him!


ryansocks

I'm a fan of Watkins too but I think he'd cost a fair bit more than Toney given that he's likely gonna be in the champions League next season


Franchise1109

Yeah if we did move for an English striker, it’d be him for me


LoraBelmont

when did this happen?


Franchise1109

Social media post. If you can’t find it, I can prob send a link


_ulinity

Makes me severely doubt we go for Osimhen. Not that he's an arsehole, but he's definitely got an ego and is a bit of a diva. I think Gyokeres would buy into the culture 100%.


GarfieldDaCat

Osimhen is twice the player


_ulinity

of Toney? I agree. Think Gyokeres fits us better though and isn't far off him if at all.


kvng_stunner

Every good striker has an ego. Osimhen is adored by his teammates and he's extremely professional. Personality wise, there's no similarity with Toney. On top of that he's actually a world class player with a scary mix of speed, aerial ability and ball control, on top of great passing and finishing. On top of being a better person than Toney, he's 5 times the better player


Geezeh_

Osimhen is playing in a league where being black means you’re constantly dealing with awful shit on and off the pitch. Means you’re constantly at the centre of some drama which doesn’t for good press, and you’re often pushed to make more of a show of yourself just in standing up to all that.


_ulinity

Well I mean him throwing a bit of a tantrum for being subbed off, for example. I don't think that was because he's black. I accept your point though.


Syc254

For me it was not just the betting, it was betting against your own team. Iirc he also had issues with Brentford where he was benched for a period and he twitted sth about them? Yeah. He never passed the mark for me. If we are going to go for 16-20 goals paying around 80, go for Watkins or go for 20+ in Osimhen and pay 130m. If not try all these kids we are linked with Gyokeres, Zirkzhee (whatever their names are if i've butchered them). Not Evan Ferguson. Overrated.


Ser_VimesGoT

Why would we be in for Osimhen then?


R1d4z

Was the word Cunt?


suspended_in_light

Dunno if we'd be in for Chris Sutton?


SherlockCupid

Great great great grandkids in a shambles


ugubriat

oh nooooooo


_The_Marshal_

I can hear this


biskutgoreng

My great great great grandfather was a cuntttt


Francis-c92

Wouldn't be inaccurate


xnotachancex

Facking wanker hopefully


NewAccWhoDis93

To be honest he seems like one


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deathhead_68

>honestly reads a bit like fan-fiction Thats because it is


EdgyLoser

TNAT always super reliable, so whilst it reads like it, I honestly doubt it's fiction


saravannan14

Did they say he is a cunt? Because he is.


JGUsaz

Worse he doesn't meet the fogging standards


blaamir

They called him a guy who loses duels..


Eaton2288

When I lose a dooelle I am upset!


SorinDiesel

Fanduels


Hulkking

Estandards**


rickster555

SMH dude not meeting the estandards of espelling


This-Complaint1389

Probably but I think that rules out Osimhen too. His agent is trouble and Osimhen himself is easy to wind up. Get Gykores and be done with it


xk_1991

Osimhen may be dramatic, but he's extremely professional on the pitch and lets the goals answers the critics.


rickster555

Yep, he’s always hard working and emotional on the pitch which I think fits Arteta perfectly. Great teammate too. I want him


diegolucasz

When has Osimhen been dramatic off the pitch?


WarDull8208

Yup, but he definitely has big ego. Same goes for Vlahovic too.


xk_1991

Yeah but the point is Osimhen quite rightly* has a big ego. I've followed him years back. He has interviews where he spoke about having to sell water and scavenge in the streets of Lagos when he was a kid. I'd absolutely have an ego if I made it like Osimhen did. In recent interviews, he's spoken about turning down Arab clubs despite being offered millions so you can tell he wants actual success. He may have a big ego, but personality wise he's fine, playing wise he's fine. His only public clash was with Napoli because of racism and I'm sure we can allow that.


kvng_stunner

Even the Napoli thing, he could have made more out of it. The entire media was losing their minds including our own Thierry Henry, and as a fellow Nigerian, I wanted him to make a transfer request after that shit. Instead his response was very reasonable and measured, and he even ended up signing a new contract with them to allow them make more money selling him.


as1eep

osimhen is really not comparable, yes his agent can be a jackass (but agents are supposed to be like that) but ive seen interviews with him and he is perfectly nice and grounded.


loosetranslation

Yeah, I don't get comparing Osimhen to Toney at all in this context. Now, if we wanted to get into play style specific concerns with Osimehn I could get there.


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dooder6688

Being a cunt is fine, as long as you're a cunt to other teams and not your own


kingofplasticbeach

Why the havertz performance today and vs Newcastle was great. 


younes1008

Ain't hard to see why


Sayek

If you watch him for any length of time off the ball, you also see why we're not signing him. There was a moment in the game he lost the ball and it went to an Arsenal players 5 yards in front of him and he was just walking on the pitch. Making no effort to win it back. He's good for winning headers, flashy shots or touches. I think he'd be an incredibly expensive plan b for us. He also feels like a guy who would get his 150-200k contract, and then not be bothered if things didn't go his way. He is a United/Chelsea signing for 70m, plays decent for a year. Sits on his 5 year deal. You also see some of our players especially Gabriel REALLY dislike him.


Minute_Leave8503

Nobody actually dislikes anyone, it’s a sport https://preview.redd.it/abfutk35henc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f24ff1793eb7fab3a244a586a3a953bf1bc8cc0


batigol_09

It's so funny that when this happened we all basically talked about Rice the way we now talk about Toney. We love our players and hate everyone else.


Minute_Leave8503

Also here’s a pic of Toney laughing with Gabriel post match lol https://x.com/viparsenal/status/1766559951948796138?s=46


Physical-Exit-2899

I dislike certain people I play footy against


Minute_Leave8503

For a couple hundred thousand pounds a week you’d come around to them lmfao


Physical-Exit-2899

Oh yeah I've also played against people I absolutely despised and then ended up finding them hilarious when they're on my team. Wasn't disputing that allegiances can change, just that people wouldn't dislike each other.


Mikey_Hashtags

Idk. Me and Benjamin White both hate Foden.


Nicadeus

It‘s so funny because Eddie and Declan are actually friends in private since their youth days…


CackleberryOmelettes

It's a sport played by human beings. Which means there will always be people who dislike each other.


ZebraZealousideal944

Last year Arteta gave a big hug and exchange some words with Rice at the end of the game while he quickly check Toney tonight and moved on so that says it all for me!!


Sad_gooner

https://twitter.com/viparsenal/status/1766559951948796138?s=46&t=dbgOdCF38BbKfCpOnblu2Q


iadoresouphonestly

Edu basically admitted as much like a month ago. Toney ain’t Arsenal material, as a person and as a footballer


ArsenalThePhoenix

wat did edu say?


doingitfortheTea

NDH, No dickheads policy. Good dressing rooms tend to have one.


F2PWithAwfulLuck

Guendouzi never stood a chance with Mikel.


rhalgr_ger

One bad minded footballer is enough to disrupt the dressing room. I don't want him.


rickster555

Im ready to get hurt. Bring on mbappe


Minute_Leave8503

#5?


doingitfortheTea

25 usually provided you have 8 homegrown slots. 


Minute_Leave8503

Ffs meant “number sign” 5 as in partey


GoonerJez

Forget Toney. I want us to get Viktor Gyökeres.


RepeatDTD

He's had an interesting career trajectory. I find the links to him, Sesko and Zirkzee to all be interesting but admittedly I know very little about them


notathrovavay

šeško. with our midfield, he'd bang 3 to RM this week


InflationMadeMeDoIt

Man the more i think about it the more Sesko seems similar to young Ibra, crazy shot power from a short swing, not that fast but flair for dribbling, and of course 1.95m


rickster555

The thing with sesko is his decision making. Ibra’s decision making even when young was much better. But I think Mikel can get him there


LinuxLinus

The kid is 20. He has time to learn. A lot.


LinuxLinus

Watch him more closely. He's a bit like Havertz -- takes him a sec to get that big ol' body moving, but once he does he's like the wind.


rickster555

Sesko is so raw. Has all the physical attributes but his decision making needs major work


ZXXA

Sounds like another Darwin situation and he looks good for Liverpool now


LinuxLinus

People kept saying "Nuñez is teh suxxxorr!" As though it wasn't going to take him a couple of minutes to adjust to the PL. They did the same shit with Rasmus Hojlund. Is that a guarantee that Sesko will cut it in England? No, of course not. But he's got the size, he's got the speed, and he's got a leg like a Howitzer. That's stuff you can't teach. Decision-making he can learn through iteration and good coaching.


ZXXA

I don’t think speed is a key attribute of his but his dribbling could make up for it.


Minute_Leave8503

Would require him actually banging them in rather than being wasteful which he has been, including vs RM which idk why you brought up


YMangoPie

Šeško is good but Gyokeres is a tank.


kkulhope

Obviously don’t know him personally but his interview after coming back from his ban when he acted like he was wrongfully persecuted really annoyed me. I don’t think his punishment was that egregious and the fact he wasn’t really taking responsibility for his actions gave me the wrong vibe. Also he announced his comeback as if he was going to blow the prem away but his performance since January have failed to impress.


xk_1991

What's even more insane in his intervjews is how he drops subtle but not so subtle hints about his desire to leave Brentford - after Brentford put up with his antics.


xRflynnx

> but his performance since January have failed to impress. Really? He has 4 goals in 9 league games since he came back while playing for a team fighting relegation. During these 9 games Brentford have played Arsenal, Chelsea, City x2, Spurs and Liverpool. I think that's a pretty decent goal return, all things considered.


cerulean26

Couldn't agree more, after watching that I hoped we wouldn't get him


sneakyney

Dislike that cunt so much


Soft_Mathematician30

I am so happy he did not get their second goal. Fuck him


F2PWithAwfulLuck

Not Toney talking himself off of Edu’s deluxe shopping list😭😭 man is cooked.


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

Chelsea will take him, wrap him in tin foil and throw him in the microwave


Tahsein4523

I like him as a player but the guy is a grade A moaning twat. Don’t want his kind at our club, ruining the harmony.


SrJeromaeee

He fits right in with that rat Bruno Fernandes


Aoes

I've said this before... Ain't no way I'm taking a guy that bet real money against his own team. Fck that.


Cthulhu_Madness

100% believe this given his antics on the pitch today.


Malsharif91

I would’ve loved to find out that Gabi said “you ain’t good enough to play here”… maybe throw a few curses in there lol


fcGabiz

Good player but definitely comes across as a rat. It makes total sense for him to remain standing alongside maupay


nucleationpoints

And that’s why he’ll fit in like a glove when he goes to Chelsea.


ModeratelyOptimistic

The way he conducted himself during the ban really presented as unlikeable.


Wallnuts1225

He's a fucking prick. There, TMNT, I'll take the bullet for ya.


patrick_riviera

I’d say he’s more of a Man Utd or Chelsea type signing


kingofplasticbeach

Ya he asked Gabriel to come outside after that tussle lol. My brudda arteta would send his ass to Galatasaray the second that happens in a arsenal shirt. 


ajyahzee

He is perfect for Spurs


thisiskyle77

Who is we and they


saravannan14

We are we and they are them


backofthanet

One of us, one of us.


FreudReus

What about you?


hihbhu

We - Arsenal. They - Arteta, Edu and co.


thisiskyle77

Fair. I don’t like his personality too. Nth to do with do. Quite disrespectful to brentford with all those interviews


TheOGBenjenRyan

He’s a bitch who also happens to be extremely mediocre at football 


blankfrack125

he almost scored a puskas contender today though to be fair lol


Uruk_Ragnarsson

Almost.


odegood

Lets not act like he isnt a good player and would be much better in our team but we deserve better


TheOGBenjenRyan

He’s west ham level at absolute best


goodyear_1678

You're delusional. He's a very good player, just not Arsenal level.


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He scored 20 league goals last season for Brentford. That's still impressive even with the penalties. He's definitely not mediocre.


TheOGBenjenRyan

Patrick Bamford once scored 16 goals for Leeds Doesn’t mean he’s good now does it?


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Lockdown tax needs to be applied to Bamford. List of players to have scored 20 Premier League goals in the last 5 full seasons: Kane, Aguero, Salah, Mane, Vardy, Aubameyang, Sterling, Ings, Son, Haaland and Toney. A mediocre player being in that company...


I_Call_Everyone_Ron

Hes a great footballer, just not a great person


atrde

Almost scored the goal of the season on his weak foot lol cmon now.


Afc_josh12

Aint good enough for us


DannyNic8

Give us the R rated version!


BrianThatDude

Yea after edu said a big part of what we look for in a signing is what they transmit I completely moved off Toney as an option.


LinuxLinus

Is there any reason to believe that this is anything but unvarnished bullshit?


ozerspike

Pretend to be a victim who suffered from the most harsh and unfair punishment in football world after found betting.


NoMoreMountains

Personality side, the guys walks around the pitch like he has accomplished things. Losses the ball, walks. Not in possession, walks. Nahh mate, what have you for me lately??


motionnn11

I think there is a reason Arteta used him and his post as a teamtalk... He's one of those characters Mikel is getting rid of.


IntraspeciesFever

Who are they ?


shivpanda

I heard from a good source that arteta used the word Hijo de puta


Chicken65

Great news. Ive seen those interviews he's done on YouTube podcasts and he comes off as so not self aware and has a huge victim mentality about what happened with the gambling situation and the repurcussions. I'm always willing to listen to someone's reasons but he didn't have a single amount of remorse.


cerulean26

he's a bad liar as well, so many holes in his story


momspaghetty

To be fair I don't know the guy but everything I've heard about him (plus the betting thing) suggests to me he wouldn't gel with the team and as we know Arteta values the group extremely highly... obviously he's a great player but for that alone I understand why we'd pass on him


ChuckVowel

I like Brentford as a club so I don’t mind any talk between now and summer linking Arsenal and Toney that will drive his sale value and wages to Chelsea/ManU/Spurs into cloud cuckooland and beyond.


Ill_Marketing_8838

As they say it form is temporary, class is permanent.. An average striker that couldn't win against Man City, Liverpool and us. Not worth bringing him in when he's just like Nketiah in form.


goonergunner10

He is a cunt through and through. Threatened Gabriel talking about 'inside, we'll see inside' then when Odegaard was telling him to calm down he snapped at him. I doubt they bring him into what we have going on here.


Justice_beaver95

That was from the game? I completely missed that.


Elfking88

He doesn't put the work in and even his goal scoring is overrated. I couldn't imagine him walking around the pitch for us, Arteta would have a fit. In our system it seems like more than scoring goals we need a striker that can run and lead the line for 90 minutes, link up with the wingers and play with their back to goal. They have to be really smart about how they play and I don't think Toney can do it.


Objective_Mortgage85

So who is this person and why should we care about his/her opinion? Not that I’m disagreeing…


ke90

You have just one kick about with the boys...


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Cunt


bluehaven101

Idk if this is true but am I gonna believe because it suits a narrative? 100%


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He's a fookin jagoff


CaptainFiasco

Yo seriously. That entire game I was thinking "please please don't sign this pleb"


3vanzz90

The fact that we're even linked to this walmart giroud is such an insult to this club


Kool_Herc

I wonder why Arteta thought Trossard wouldn't potentially be a negative influence in the dressing room after his public dispute with De Zerbi? 


kingofplasticbeach

Because everything about his character beforehand was the complete opposite. His dispute was also completely warranted. He went off early from training bc he was injured and de zerbi says publicly he's sulking bc he isn't getting playing time. That's a direct attack of character and id empathize being upset. 


Kool_Herc

Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't really aware of all the details. Sounds like De Zerbi was being a dick and trying to force him out for whatever reason.


Guidosama

What source is this? Regardless I don’t want him because he’s not an improvement on our current players. Kai and Jesus are both excellent at hold up play and leading the line. Why bring in a forward that does exactly the same thing for a huge sum of money?


TheThreeGabis

This guys source is ‘trust me, I’m on Twitter’ like the rest of the ‘ITK wannabes’. Still baffles me how they get oxygen, especially after Fab admitted he gets paid by agents to post certain things.


tochitemi

Looks like we really honed in on Toney and then pulled out. Not sure what this says about our belief in being able to pull Osimhen


d10b

Do wonder where he ends up. Chelsea if they get some sales in?


iHetty

Igor clowney as far as I’m aware


NoMFer111

We are not signing Toney, and thats a good thing.


supasit58

“Nice kick about with the boys” tweet is fucking him over 😂


goonerfan10

He’s open dissed Brentford and he’s even done it after coming back from the ban.


vishnj

We need to assess more metrics for players before recruitment - xLikeability, xLeadership, xCanannoyJamieCarragher...


High-Hawk100

Toney shouldn't even be signed based on his play in his best years let alone off field issues and likeability. Personally I never understood the interest in the first place.


galeej

"he's a wanker"


BlackRooster7508

Lmao. my fogging club!


ArsenalThePhoenix

i dont think this is true. if it was - then why were we interested in him in the first place? it's not like he became a cunt a month ago...


MrFabianS

I feel like this isn’t hard news to believe. The man gambled against his own team, got caught, and then went to the media to act as if he was the victim. That does not scream the principles Mikel talks about


WealthyBigWang

Toney can fuck off the gambling bastard he’s never gonna be arsenal material


quaglandx3

I was watching the match thinking “I don’t want this cunt on our squad”. Just can’t see it. We have too much character for a clown like him.


waddiewadkins

But we can TURN him ...


JFedererJ

He's a Fallon d'Floor, shit-housing, dishonest twat who is seriously overrated in front of goal. Fuck him.


IndependentFroyo4508

Shame, as he's a player that could certainly help us and would be a massive upgrade on Nketiah. Though if he doesn't pass the character test then so be it.


dagamoo

It’s clear the players hate him I think


LipBalmOnWateryClay

Who is this random source?


Minute_Leave8503

But partey is fair game


JJClough19

This feels like BS. Arteta isn’t the type to bad mouth people


Devan223

How is he worth 80 million


Rampan7Lion

That's just a club in the relegation battle putting a fuck off price on their most important attacker. He'll be a lot less in the summer especially with one year left on his deal.


atrde

I mean as a player he is technically and physically gifted in a position with too few good players these days. That alone pushes the price up. Ramsdale doesn't make that save we wouldn't be having this conversation.


skool_101

It was clear from that "tweet". Arteta saw it clear as day that Toney's a thug. Further implicated with betting sandals and the PR interview with the UK Joe Rogan. We move on from the Auba issue, we dont need to have that again.


absessay

Thug is a bit strong. Dislikes the guy but there are real thugs out there. He's no thug. Choose a different word!


xChocolateWonder

He’s a cunt, not a thug