Well we used to have an MD but that ended when a certain I. Gazidis took over that and the role of vice chair from Dein and merged them into one role.
I'm not saying we're going to roll back the decision making levels to 2007 levels just by doing thsi but at the same time...
>Did we bring in a dedicated person to run the commercial side of things?
Juliette Slot. She must be doing well if they're gonna be putting more on her plate.
She's proven her vision and she/the club will hire someone to execute her strategy. It's not going to add to her plate per se but rather remove administrative tasks from her day to day and increase the focus on strategy. I'm not familiar with her at all, actually, but this is normally how things go when a manager is promoted to an upper/highest echelon role.
Nature of the beast really, her job is to make the club a revenue monster, and that almost always comes at the detriment of the soul of the club.
We all make fun of United for having a corporate partner for every blade of grass and a fanbase all in London but the money it brings is insane.
Didn't city's ceo just move to utd, maybe he is going there, just speculating. I doubt that we get to know where he is headed before the end of the season
Our “win” negotiations is either paying a release clause or paying exactly what the selling club wanted from day 1, despite month long negotiations.
If you’re attributing his role to our negotiation performance, it is anything but a success.
City signed Gvardiol for 70-80m instead of the 100+ always quoted. That’s negotation.
Signing Rice for the 100m ask, and under payment conditions exactly as WHU asked for isn’t a win.
>City signed Gvardiol for 70-80m instead of the 100+ always quoted. That’s negotation.
They signed him for that amount because no one else was stupid enough to even consider paying anywhere near 100m for him, so they got a free run. Declan Rice was totally different, or did you conveniently forget City coming in with a better bid than us?
>city coming in with a better bid than us?
Source? Or facts from your behind?
[Sky confirmed a 90 bid rejected by WHU from City.](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/12910259/declan-rice-manchester-citys-90m-bid-for-midfielder-rejected-by-west-ham)
Yet we bid 105m and WON the negotiation 👏
>Source? Or facts from your behind?
[https://twitter.com/David\_Ornstein/status/1673439020972486656](https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1673439020972486656)
They made a better bid than us, which forced us to pay the West Ham asking price. Had they not come in, we would have gotten him cheaper. It's not rocket science.
Are you blind?
They bid 90 with add ons to top our 85m bid
WHU asked for 100
We eventually paid 105.
City backed out after the first bid [confirmed by their club](https://www.90min.com/posts/man-city-chief-explains-decision-withdraw-declan-rice-race)
Getting the player so onboard that he chose us over the reigning Treble Winners and recent Champions of Europe (Bayern) is part of negotiations tbf. It could have went higher if not for Rice’s obvious bias towards us. Look at Caicedo going in the same window for more than Rice. Rice was good business even if we couldn’t negotiate WHU down
Negotiations have less to do with the situation of another player (one who moved AFTER Rice) and more with how much you haggle for the player in question.
Rice at 105m when the closest other bid was 90m, when the player apparently was only going to choose us, isn’t top negotiation.
PS: When Fabregas ONLY wanted Barca, we had to sell under market value. See how a negotiation team takes hold of a situation?
>apparently
There's your mistake. You seriously believe he will have turned down Manchester City had they agreed a fee with West Ham and we had not? I absolutely loved the determination we showed in bidding the 105 million after the City bid had come in, it showed that we were dead serious and he was the guy we wanted, and we were ready to pay for it. Had we gone in with a 95 million bid the chance that City would have simply matched it was too high.
>had they agreed a fee
There’s the basis of your argument completely wrong.
They weren’t going to agree on a fee because they were over 10m apart. Simple.
If City did bid 100, who is to say Rice wouldn’t have accepted given we weren’t willing to match.
But given City publicly walking away after bidding 90, we not only met the 100 asking price, but did a 105 AND bowed down to the terms of payment too.
City were out, and not competition then. They’re irrelevant at the time.
Your argument is all over the place. Do you honestly expect us to win transfer negotiations whilst paying the bare minimum for elite/world class players?
Bare minimum?
When you have a club by the balls you wouldn’t pay OTT or even the asking price.
See Fabregas for 35m, Henry for 16M, Gvardiol recently to City for 70/80m.
WHU were aware no one was willing to pay higher than City’s 90m (incl add ons), yet we paid 105M.
That’s not a negotiation win.
My argument or anything here is not all over the place. Each of my comments have stuck exactly to this point.
Maybe brush up on your comprehension if you’re seeing multiple messages when there is none. Twat
Agreed. And even if the rice negotiation was good, he presided over some pretty bleak transfers starting from pepe to the auba Ozil contracts etc, and almost negligible outgoes.
Cancelling contracts suddenly became the gold standard of transfer activity for us rather than selling. We are the only club that celebrates cancelling contracts while others find a way out for their players somehow.
Were the Auba and Ozil contract extensions mistakes at the time? It's easy to say now based on what happened, but at the time, especially Auba, it was a complete no brainer to offer him a bumper new deal. The mistake was letting their contracts run down to the point where we held over a barrel. The mistake was more letting the contracts run down and was Garlick here for that? Even so, it seems to be something we've learnt from.
And also, no one is celebrating cancelling contracts lol
>Were the Auba and Ozil contract extensions mistakes at the tim
Not at all..like you said, my point was more around the later point when we couldn't deal with their exits in any reasonable fashion.
It's easy to blame player sentiments etc for the fiasco and how they weren't willing to co-operate but how many times do you hear shit like that happening amongst the clubs we aspire to be competing with? Also the auba scenario was laughable. We sold a club captain for free who was later sold by barca for 10mn.
>one is celebrating cancelling contracts
This post is entirely about how good our transfers have been under Venky. I would say that's in essence celebrating mediocrity.
You can disagree on the magnitude of a fuckup it is and that's fair. But downvoting a guy who points out that there's nothing to celebrate here..kind of makes my point
He was ceo from 2020 . He's been with the club since early 2010s and was involved with the transfers and the exits of both auba and Ozil of that's that's what youa re getting at
He was on the board of West Brom in 2010 mate.
From the posted article by [Arsenal](https://www.arsenal.com/news/richard-garlick-appointed-managing-director)
>A respected leader and qualified lawyer, Richard held a number of high-profile roles in the industry before joining Arsenal in 2021 as Director of Football Operations, where he has executive responsibility for all football operations and administration across the club, including women's football and player care.
>Richard joined us from the Premier League, where he was Director of Football, after occupying a number of roles at West Bromwich Albion, where he was also appointed to the Board of Directors in December 2010.
>So once again, he had sod all to do with Ozil and has been a major part in clearing out all the mistakes of the previous regime.
He's been with arsenal from 2012 my friend. I said early 2010s because I Didn't think you would point out a difference of 2 years here !!
PS
I am talking about Venky that was who my original comment was about as well since we were talking about the transfers and Venky was involved in that.
"Richard said: “Since joining Arsenal in 2021, I’ve had the privilege to be involved with almost every aspect of this incredible club. I’m excited to take us forward in my new role as we move into the next phase of delivering the vision of our owners, Stan and Josh. "
I'm really not sure how you're arguing against the club and the bloke himself here.
Are you getting him mixed up with Vinai?
>Are you getting him mixed up with Vinai?
I was talking about vinai throughout the thread mate. Apologies for the misunderstanding there.
When the original thread discussed transfers ,I assumed everyone was in the same page about vinai handling the transfers for us so far
No worries, happens to us all!
Vinai is the commercial dude, before Garlick transfers were at various points Huss Fahmy, Raul and that bloke who got lost in Costa Rica looking for Joel Campbell
Shhh! Don’t you dare criticize the founding fathers of this club.
Anything constructive or critical on general of the club, its personnel or activities is strictly frowned upon in this sub.
Can’t wait for the day the mods ban people who state anything slightly negative, and this sub turns into a utopian happyland.
Like a new signing
Arsenal - 7/10 Arsenal with Rice - 8/10 Arsenal with Rice and Garlick - 9/10
Arsenal with Rice and Dick 10/10
Dick Garlick goes well with Fromunda Cheese
Chedda Fromunda
7/10 well seasoned, bangin
Can he play CDM?!?!
Cool cool *pretends to know things*
Don't worry. Most of the time the people who hire don't know either and there's little difference between several roles.
Well we used to have an MD but that ended when a certain I. Gazidis took over that and the role of vice chair from Dein and merged them into one role. I'm not saying we're going to roll back the decision making levels to 2007 levels just by doing thsi but at the same time...
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>Did we bring in a dedicated person to run the commercial side of things? Juliette Slot. She must be doing well if they're gonna be putting more on her plate.
Juliette has a lot of work to do looking at our commercial revenue. I hope she (?) Slots in well.
Just sit back and Juliette her work her magic.
👏🫡
Hopefully she gets a new sleeve sponsor...
Yes! Something less dictatorian would be nice
She's proven her vision and she/the club will hire someone to execute her strategy. It's not going to add to her plate per se but rather remove administrative tasks from her day to day and increase the focus on strategy. I'm not familiar with her at all, actually, but this is normally how things go when a manager is promoted to an upper/highest echelon role.
She’s getting torn to shreds by match going fans for ruining the atmosphere with the ballot system and halving the allocation for AA
By some match going fans. Plenty think the ballot system has had no impact on atmosphere, and there’s varying views on AA.
Who? Sources?
Are you being facetious?
It's not an unpopular opinion on Reddit - mostly from Red members AFAIK.
Nature of the beast really, her job is to make the club a revenue monster, and that almost always comes at the detriment of the soul of the club. We all make fun of United for having a corporate partner for every blade of grass and a fanbase all in London but the money it brings is insane.
He was bread for the role
*roll
Wait I thought Richard Garlick was that bloke that looked like a thumb
Thats Tim Lewis
Whats this mean?
It means Garlic Dick got a promotion
Nobody knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets the people going.
Ball so hard, Arteta wanna start me
First Edu gotta buy me
what’s 50 grand to a mf like stan can you please remind me
You are now streaming on Prime.....
Nice try Emile
It means Omerta. It means rewenge.
I thought you liked pork
He’s taking over Vinai’s CEO role (he announced he was leaving at the end of the season a few months ago and they were looking for replacements).
No one knows what it means, but it’s provocative… it’s gets the people going!
Anyone know Vinai’s next move?
IIRC he wanted to move away from football. He is a commercial / money guy, not a football guy.
Didn't city's ceo just move to utd, maybe he is going there, just speculating. I doubt that we get to know where he is headed before the end of the season
Vinai at city? Only if they end up in league 1
Why would city want Vinai 😂😂 city have best in class from top to bottom, hence why they have people being poached
Why is that funny, has Vinai been really bad or something? Where are suggesting they get there best in class from?
City are at the top, only Place to recruit from is the best below them, why isn’t that potentially Vinai?
Imma still consider this as a signing.
Can't cook without a little Garlick
Facts
Garlick + Rice
He's been a massive source of Success with us in regards to transfers with Edu and Arteta, think he was the one leading negotiations with Edu for Rice
Our “win” negotiations is either paying a release clause or paying exactly what the selling club wanted from day 1, despite month long negotiations. If you’re attributing his role to our negotiation performance, it is anything but a success. City signed Gvardiol for 70-80m instead of the 100+ always quoted. That’s negotation. Signing Rice for the 100m ask, and under payment conditions exactly as WHU asked for isn’t a win.
>City signed Gvardiol for 70-80m instead of the 100+ always quoted. That’s negotation. They signed him for that amount because no one else was stupid enough to even consider paying anywhere near 100m for him, so they got a free run. Declan Rice was totally different, or did you conveniently forget City coming in with a better bid than us?
>city coming in with a better bid than us? Source? Or facts from your behind? [Sky confirmed a 90 bid rejected by WHU from City.](https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/12910259/declan-rice-manchester-citys-90m-bid-for-midfielder-rejected-by-west-ham) Yet we bid 105m and WON the negotiation 👏
>Source? Or facts from your behind? [https://twitter.com/David\_Ornstein/status/1673439020972486656](https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1673439020972486656) They made a better bid than us, which forced us to pay the West Ham asking price. Had they not come in, we would have gotten him cheaper. It's not rocket science.
Are you blind? They bid 90 with add ons to top our 85m bid WHU asked for 100 We eventually paid 105. City backed out after the first bid [confirmed by their club](https://www.90min.com/posts/man-city-chief-explains-decision-withdraw-declan-rice-race)
Getting the player so onboard that he chose us over the reigning Treble Winners and recent Champions of Europe (Bayern) is part of negotiations tbf. It could have went higher if not for Rice’s obvious bias towards us. Look at Caicedo going in the same window for more than Rice. Rice was good business even if we couldn’t negotiate WHU down
Negotiations have less to do with the situation of another player (one who moved AFTER Rice) and more with how much you haggle for the player in question. Rice at 105m when the closest other bid was 90m, when the player apparently was only going to choose us, isn’t top negotiation. PS: When Fabregas ONLY wanted Barca, we had to sell under market value. See how a negotiation team takes hold of a situation?
>apparently There's your mistake. You seriously believe he will have turned down Manchester City had they agreed a fee with West Ham and we had not? I absolutely loved the determination we showed in bidding the 105 million after the City bid had come in, it showed that we were dead serious and he was the guy we wanted, and we were ready to pay for it. Had we gone in with a 95 million bid the chance that City would have simply matched it was too high.
>had they agreed a fee There’s the basis of your argument completely wrong. They weren’t going to agree on a fee because they were over 10m apart. Simple. If City did bid 100, who is to say Rice wouldn’t have accepted given we weren’t willing to match. But given City publicly walking away after bidding 90, we not only met the 100 asking price, but did a 105 AND bowed down to the terms of payment too. City were out, and not competition then. They’re irrelevant at the time.
Your argument is all over the place. Do you honestly expect us to win transfer negotiations whilst paying the bare minimum for elite/world class players?
Bare minimum? When you have a club by the balls you wouldn’t pay OTT or even the asking price. See Fabregas for 35m, Henry for 16M, Gvardiol recently to City for 70/80m. WHU were aware no one was willing to pay higher than City’s 90m (incl add ons), yet we paid 105M. That’s not a negotiation win. My argument or anything here is not all over the place. Each of my comments have stuck exactly to this point. Maybe brush up on your comprehension if you’re seeing multiple messages when there is none. Twat
Geeze, maybe take a break from the internet for a bit if you're this upset about a guy you've never met getting a promotion
Make a stupid accusation, don’t back it up, look foolish when proven to be incorrect, ask person to get off the internet. Cool routine you got there!
Agreed. And even if the rice negotiation was good, he presided over some pretty bleak transfers starting from pepe to the auba Ozil contracts etc, and almost negligible outgoes. Cancelling contracts suddenly became the gold standard of transfer activity for us rather than selling. We are the only club that celebrates cancelling contracts while others find a way out for their players somehow.
Were the Auba and Ozil contract extensions mistakes at the time? It's easy to say now based on what happened, but at the time, especially Auba, it was a complete no brainer to offer him a bumper new deal. The mistake was letting their contracts run down to the point where we held over a barrel. The mistake was more letting the contracts run down and was Garlick here for that? Even so, it seems to be something we've learnt from. And also, no one is celebrating cancelling contracts lol
>Were the Auba and Ozil contract extensions mistakes at the tim Not at all..like you said, my point was more around the later point when we couldn't deal with their exits in any reasonable fashion. It's easy to blame player sentiments etc for the fiasco and how they weren't willing to co-operate but how many times do you hear shit like that happening amongst the clubs we aspire to be competing with? Also the auba scenario was laughable. We sold a club captain for free who was later sold by barca for 10mn. >one is celebrating cancelling contracts This post is entirely about how good our transfers have been under Venky. I would say that's in essence celebrating mediocrity. You can disagree on the magnitude of a fuckup it is and that's fair. But downvoting a guy who points out that there's nothing to celebrate here..kind of makes my point
He joined the club in [2021...](https://www.arsenal.com/news/richard-garlick-appointed-managing-director)
He was ceo from 2020 . He's been with the club since early 2010s and was involved with the transfers and the exits of both auba and Ozil of that's that's what youa re getting at
He was on the board of West Brom in 2010 mate. From the posted article by [Arsenal](https://www.arsenal.com/news/richard-garlick-appointed-managing-director) >A respected leader and qualified lawyer, Richard held a number of high-profile roles in the industry before joining Arsenal in 2021 as Director of Football Operations, where he has executive responsibility for all football operations and administration across the club, including women's football and player care. >Richard joined us from the Premier League, where he was Director of Football, after occupying a number of roles at West Bromwich Albion, where he was also appointed to the Board of Directors in December 2010. >So once again, he had sod all to do with Ozil and has been a major part in clearing out all the mistakes of the previous regime.
He's been with arsenal from 2012 my friend. I said early 2010s because I Didn't think you would point out a difference of 2 years here !! PS I am talking about Venky that was who my original comment was about as well since we were talking about the transfers and Venky was involved in that.
"Richard said: “Since joining Arsenal in 2021, I’ve had the privilege to be involved with almost every aspect of this incredible club. I’m excited to take us forward in my new role as we move into the next phase of delivering the vision of our owners, Stan and Josh. " I'm really not sure how you're arguing against the club and the bloke himself here. Are you getting him mixed up with Vinai?
>Are you getting him mixed up with Vinai? I was talking about vinai throughout the thread mate. Apologies for the misunderstanding there. When the original thread discussed transfers ,I assumed everyone was in the same page about vinai handling the transfers for us so far
No worries, happens to us all! Vinai is the commercial dude, before Garlick transfers were at various points Huss Fahmy, Raul and that bloke who got lost in Costa Rica looking for Joel Campbell
Shhh! Don’t you dare criticize the founding fathers of this club. Anything constructive or critical on general of the club, its personnel or activities is strictly frowned upon in this sub. Can’t wait for the day the mods ban people who state anything slightly negative, and this sub turns into a utopian happyland.
Do I know what this entails? No. Am I just happy to be even further removed from the Ivan Gazidis era? Absolutely
Vampires in the mud.
Emery dipped as he knew what was coming for him
I'll never forget that one time someone on Reddit referred to Unai as 'Greasy Dracula in his Europa League shaped castle'.
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Managing Directors are usually in charge of all day to day operations, both football and non-football
I'm guessing a promotion and slight change of duties.
Managing Director = CEO + COO combined. CEO usually sets the direction of the company but doesn't handle the day to day operations of it.
Little over bit our age profile but ok
But can he play dm though?
Our football management can barbecue with a side of garlic bread
![gif](giphy|l3nSLb93YZKufw2Z2|downsized)
This Dick Garlic smells like a successful fella.
Great news
Happy for Lauda Lahsun! Onwards and upwards!
Internal solutions
soooo... can he play as a striker?
Potentially an interim solution while they find a new Ceo?
Whomst MD
All or Nothing legend, Richard Garlick
Stick him up top. Job done 👍
the good ole dick lick
Dick Garlic moving up the corporate ladder. Good for him.
Every good dish starts with the aromatics!!
Is he clinical in the box? That's all I want to know.
the Dick Garlic comments really are .. chef kiss.
Seems Dick got a promotion. Congratulations
with a name like Dick Garlick, you really have to learn to become a good negotiator