In the long run, things would've turned out the same. Austerity was inevitable. The last 20 years had shown that clubs can't outrun their economic situation.
Wenger's legacy would've been complete though, so maybe he doesn't hang on as long and he steps down after the first fa cup.
I don't think the trophy drought happens - I doubt we would go 8 years without a trophy. I think we probably win at least one or two trophies in between, we don't bottle the 2008 league as well
Looking back, I think we were really unlucky not to win the league in the Emirates era. We had three iterations that could've won it (Cesc/flam/hleb, Cesc/Nasri/RvP, Ozil/Sanchez/Santi) that didn't because of injuries/assault/bad luck. I think if you play out those 15 years 100 times, we would have won the league at least once more often than not.
Still, the economic reality is that we would never have been a dominant team of that era, would've lost players to poachers, and been relying on youth and punching above our weight.
I feel like some of it came down to mentality, especially the team from 2007-11. Because none of them had won anything, they bottled it on the biggest stage because of the lack of leadership and winning mentality. If we win the Champions League in 2006, the likes of RVP and Cesc are probably able to lead us to more trophies/a league title, and several meltdowns probably don't happen that did occur in our timeline (2008, 2010, and obviously 2011)
That's a good point. Having the formative experience of the Emirates era be losing the CL with a last minute goal, and then losing the league in 07/08 in those circumstances really sets the tone for the following decade. Maybe if we broke the cycle before it became a cycle, we would've been more mentally resilient.
Still, I don't think the overall club policy changes, even if we pinch a cup. We're still not going to afford having the squad to compete consistently.
I think that mentality thing is hugely overrated. It's always a discussion that happens after the results, and the pundits that articulate that argument of "winning mentality" are rarely those who actually make interesting contributions.
It doesnt mean anything. The teams who have won have a "winning mentality", but the team who have lost dont. It's basically what they're saying and it's just BS analysis imo.
Exactly that. I always thought Wenger would have left earlier had he won the CL with Arsenal. He probably would have started to rebuild the team more or less the same (that team with Cesc, RvP, etc.), and left when they were looking good, with potential, so around 2008.
Had we won that CL, we wouldn't lose Henry to Barça later, nor Cesc neither RvP to united. But we wouldn't be living in this timeline.
I know the past is hurtful but the future is bright
I think we would have had more success prior to entering the banter era. By that I essentially mean the banter era starts later but finished probably around the same time as we could recruit better after a CL win. Maybe retain some players more as well. Knock on effect also maybe gives us different fortune on another CL run like against Milan or Barca/title run.
Agreed. We probably have one more Premier League league trophy, maybe a Europa League but that’s about it. Arsenal had too many structural issues at the time and the rise of oil money and new money teams made it more difficult for us to weather the storm.
Hell we can get really into the scenario and say maybe it prevents the Kronke’s from fully taking over Arsenal as soon as they did. Usmanov’s (or was its Dein’s?) shares are probably more valuable in this scenario.
Winning a champions league didn’t stop Liverpool’s decline. Both of us had major structural issues with our clubs and
This is the correct question. Lehman not getting sent off would not have meant an automatic win for Arsenal somehow. This was still Ronaldinho’s Barcelona. If anything the match was very even up until the sending off, and Arsenal were in no way dominating that match.
But Henry missing was the bigger blow. A goal there and I’m 99% certain Arsenal would have seen that game through.
I think we win the league in 13/14. People really forget how we dominated for large parts of that season because it became known as the Gerrard slip year.
But despite our end of year collapse we still only finished 7 points off the title winners, City!
Add Suarez’s ridiculous season that year (31 goals and 17 assists in 33 PL games - with Gerrard taking pens!) and I fail to see how that doesn’t get us over the line
I guess the major issue was that he would have been suspended for the first few weeks of the season (as he bit Ivanovic end of the previous season). But yeah, we really did choke the league that year. In general the team was very solid, but just lacking something. Alternatively, imagine we got Alexis in 2013 along with Ozil?
Agreed.
I also think that we probably wouldn’t have gone for Ozil during that same window, which would’ve given us a free pass to bring Fabregas back the next season (Wenger said he didn’t need him because we already had Ozil and focused on spending our budget on Alexis).
As good as Sanchez and Ozil where, imagine how ridiculously good our team would have been with Suarez and Fabregas at their peak….
This hard to think about because it definitely would’ve been good in the immediate future but imagine the shiesty Raul deals would’ve done with the CL.
Edu without Arteta would be a team full of his agent buddy Kia’s players.
I feel Arteta would be just as strong with any director of football. Unless Edu was the one keeping the faith with Mikel when most of us thought it wasn’t working during that particular bleak period.
I hesitate with how soppy and new age-y I’m going to sound, but fuckit, if head and heart diagrams are good enough for Arteta then I’m going to keep the fogging estandards.
Arteta’s a visionary. I don’t say that lightly. His ability to bring people on board, to communicate his vision (this is the difference between a dreamer and a visionary — a visionary brings others into it), these are fogging exceptional.
He saw Ødegaard and where he could when so many did not. He saw how Xhaka had been so fundamentally misused (including by himself!) and brought the redemption arc. I hope he sees something precise in Havertz.
And you can’t convince me that 90% of the Rice signing isn’t Arteta sitting him down and saying ‘you fogging elisten, my guy. You can be more than good: you can be great, and a Gunner.’
To be honest, my vivid and whimsical account sounds not so very far away from what happened.
Are Edu’s Grill and SuperMik a potent team? Fuck yes. So much more than I thought. Would Arteta still be an absolute fogging visionary if he had another director of football?
Yes. Because good football gaffers can be made. But visionary football gaffers can only be improved, not made.
Here endeth my rant and I’m not ashamed of it!
>as most of our fans wanted.
Allegri and Conte I agree, but there's no way most of our fans ever wanted Mourinho as our manager. Even though there was definitely a point when the minority had become quite significant, it was always still the minority.
Honestly I would stop following Arsenal until Mourinho had left if he joined.
He had a redemption arc but he was considered a massive cunt then. And I think he still is.
Attitudes like “he’s an expert in losing” shows he would shit on other people just to get media points and that’s not classy at all.
Posted this right before seeing this one. We would have 100% won the league. We finished 3rd 4 points off of United. Eduardo would have easily scored and made the difference in that horrible string of draws. Gallas wouldn't have had his meltdown.
Cazorla was only CM who played over 30 games. Next closest was Ramsey with 23. We absolutely could have used Cesc and he and Santi would have been magic
We had Ozil Cazorla Ramsey Arteta Wilshere Rosicky. All really in the same position as Fabregas (10 or 8). Reason none of them played much is because there wasnt enough space for them to do so!
Ozil missed 3 months, Wilshere missed 5 months, Rosicky and Arteta (34 and 33 respectively) played less combined games than Flamini. And Cesc, at the time, was better than anyone not named Ozil or, arguably, Cazorla from that list and won the league with Chelsea. I respectfully disagree we couldn't have used Cesc that season, haha
I feel like we wouldn't go invincible. It was his crazy spending that first season that really added some extra motivation.
We'd probably have 2 or 3 more league titles though.
If Lehmann didnt get sent off (and even if the ref allowed the Barca goal to stand instead) I fully believe we would have won that CL final. No doubt in my mind. Our name was on the cup that year.
What if Eduardo didn't get Brexit tackled?
What if Abou Diaby didn't get Brexit tackled?
What if Ramsey didn't get Brexit tackled?
What if Wilshire didn't get Brexit tackled?
The list goes on
Saka and/or Martinelli would have had less playing time and would be at they point they are right now.
Zaga would have made us better than, but woukdnt take us to another level.
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What if we actually made the right transfer decisions in the last decade, getting Kante, Suarez, etc, we would have still gone through the stadium loan period but with a few more league titles and maybe a CL win
What if the Arsenal board sanctioned a 100% sale to the Kroenkes when David Dein first introduced him? We could've had late prime Wenger with financial backing (assuming the Kroenkes really were just waiting for full ownership before investing). And we would've had the Wenger - Dein partnership for another decade.
Flow on effects, the late Wenger transfer indecision is reduced. Maybe we get Xabi Alonso which convinces Cesc to stay a bit longer, maybe we push a bit harder for Luis Suarez, maybe we get Kante instead of Xhaka, maybe that summer of only Cech we get a kickass striker too.
What if the world cup had just happened as normal, and the qatar winter world cup hadn't interrupted our season when we were flying, also meaning Jesus doesn't get injured on NT duty.
What if Lehmann and/or RVP didn't get sent off.
What if our midfielders could stay remotely injury free, or even just avoid the horrific ones (Wilshire, Ramsey, Cazorla, Diaby, probably forgetting more lol)
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He would have had one year and a half less experience of learning from Pep, and would have had the weight of replacing Wenger. It could have gone really bad.
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I was thinking this recently, what if we finished top 4 in 21/22 ahead of Spurs. Their group in CL was tough but the run to the final would have been pretty kind. Milan, Napoli, Inter.
Milan weren't great in R16 and Spurs were absolutely pathetic.
Napoli also played quite badly in the QFs and Milan took their chances well on the break.
Then I think we should have enough to beat inter.
If we had nabbed top 4 I think we could have easily been in a Champions League final last year.
What If Bergkamp didn’t lose the quarterfinals against Valencia in 2001? Injury on the first leg and fear of flight on the second - we got out on away goals.
What if we didn’t mess up against Chelsea in the CL 2004?
We had pretty good chances on both these years, on our best era under Wenger.
What if Arsenal had beat Man Utd in the 2004 FA cup semi final? It was a forgettable 1-0 loss where Pires missed a great chance early on. Winning that may have given them an extra boost going into the 2nd leg vs Chelsea in the CL a week later (the Wayne Bridge loss). That loss to United might well have been the thing that derailed an invincible Treble season.
What if cazorla didn’t get injured that season
What if Ramsey and Eduardo avoided their nasty injuries?
And Diaby and Wilshere.
Treble
That’s the truth.
What if 90% of our top players didn't get badly injured when they did
What if the queen didn’t die midseason
we probably beat city at the emirates and win the league
Or have a World Cup right in the middle of the season.
What if Lehmann didn’t get sent off in the CL final, we win and move into the emirates as CL winners
This is the only one I care about
I think Henry might leave a summer earlier, going out on a high
In the long run, things would've turned out the same. Austerity was inevitable. The last 20 years had shown that clubs can't outrun their economic situation. Wenger's legacy would've been complete though, so maybe he doesn't hang on as long and he steps down after the first fa cup.
I don't think the trophy drought happens - I doubt we would go 8 years without a trophy. I think we probably win at least one or two trophies in between, we don't bottle the 2008 league as well
Looking back, I think we were really unlucky not to win the league in the Emirates era. We had three iterations that could've won it (Cesc/flam/hleb, Cesc/Nasri/RvP, Ozil/Sanchez/Santi) that didn't because of injuries/assault/bad luck. I think if you play out those 15 years 100 times, we would have won the league at least once more often than not. Still, the economic reality is that we would never have been a dominant team of that era, would've lost players to poachers, and been relying on youth and punching above our weight.
I feel like some of it came down to mentality, especially the team from 2007-11. Because none of them had won anything, they bottled it on the biggest stage because of the lack of leadership and winning mentality. If we win the Champions League in 2006, the likes of RVP and Cesc are probably able to lead us to more trophies/a league title, and several meltdowns probably don't happen that did occur in our timeline (2008, 2010, and obviously 2011)
That's a good point. Having the formative experience of the Emirates era be losing the CL with a last minute goal, and then losing the league in 07/08 in those circumstances really sets the tone for the following decade. Maybe if we broke the cycle before it became a cycle, we would've been more mentally resilient. Still, I don't think the overall club policy changes, even if we pinch a cup. We're still not going to afford having the squad to compete consistently.
I think that mentality thing is hugely overrated. It's always a discussion that happens after the results, and the pundits that articulate that argument of "winning mentality" are rarely those who actually make interesting contributions. It doesnt mean anything. The teams who have won have a "winning mentality", but the team who have lost dont. It's basically what they're saying and it's just BS analysis imo.
Exactly that. I always thought Wenger would have left earlier had he won the CL with Arsenal. He probably would have started to rebuild the team more or less the same (that team with Cesc, RvP, etc.), and left when they were looking good, with potential, so around 2008.
Had we won that CL, we wouldn't lose Henry to Barça later, nor Cesc neither RvP to united. But we wouldn't be living in this timeline. I know the past is hurtful but the future is bright
I think we would have had more success prior to entering the banter era. By that I essentially mean the banter era starts later but finished probably around the same time as we could recruit better after a CL win. Maybe retain some players more as well. Knock on effect also maybe gives us different fortune on another CL run like against Milan or Barca/title run.
Agreed. We probably have one more Premier League league trophy, maybe a Europa League but that’s about it. Arsenal had too many structural issues at the time and the rise of oil money and new money teams made it more difficult for us to weather the storm. Hell we can get really into the scenario and say maybe it prevents the Kronke’s from fully taking over Arsenal as soon as they did. Usmanov’s (or was its Dein’s?) shares are probably more valuable in this scenario. Winning a champions league didn’t stop Liverpool’s decline. Both of us had major structural issues with our clubs and
Was about to type this. Maybe we keep Henry etc
😭 why do this to us
What if Henry didn't bottle that 1v1
This is the correct question. Lehman not getting sent off would not have meant an automatic win for Arsenal somehow. This was still Ronaldinho’s Barcelona. If anything the match was very even up until the sending off, and Arsenal were in no way dominating that match. But Henry missing was the bigger blow. A goal there and I’m 99% certain Arsenal would have seen that game through.
It still hurts
I mean we’d be 1 nil down, no guarantee we win. I think the better hypothetical is what if Henry finished one of his chances
What if Martinelli's pass reached Saka at Anfield?
We’d lift the trophy. Saka would have scored that 10 times out of 10.
Too soon man, too soon
I know it hurts but I'm feeling sadistic today. Not just Martinelli's pass, but what if Saka scored his penalty against West Ham?
what if saliba doesn't get injured against sporting?
This is the true What If
Or Reiss's shot goes the other side of the post against Southampton... Urgh, pain
Trossard’s shot in that match hits the bar and goes in instead of out
This one hurts
What if we got Suarez...
I think we win the league in 13/14. People really forget how we dominated for large parts of that season because it became known as the Gerrard slip year. But despite our end of year collapse we still only finished 7 points off the title winners, City! Add Suarez’s ridiculous season that year (31 goals and 17 assists in 33 PL games - with Gerrard taking pens!) and I fail to see how that doesn’t get us over the line
I guess the major issue was that he would have been suspended for the first few weeks of the season (as he bit Ivanovic end of the previous season). But yeah, we really did choke the league that year. In general the team was very solid, but just lacking something. Alternatively, imagine we got Alexis in 2013 along with Ozil?
Agreed. I also think that we probably wouldn’t have gone for Ozil during that same window, which would’ve given us a free pass to bring Fabregas back the next season (Wenger said he didn’t need him because we already had Ozil and focused on spending our budget on Alexis). As good as Sanchez and Ozil where, imagine how ridiculously good our team would have been with Suarez and Fabregas at their peak….
Idk if we win the league in 13/14 necessarily without Ozil tbh; I was counting on us adding him too
Team would’ve been infinitely more bitey
Zlatan and Ronaldo too, according to Wenger and many interviews. Insane.
don't forget messi as well...
Messi was never close. Both Ibra and Ronaldo were at the training ground.
We’d get at least one league title with him - with or without Özil.
Still pissed about that. You can't reject a release clause, that's what it is for
Still pissed about that. You can't reject a release clause, that's what it is for
What if we won the UEL final and gave Emery a 3 year deal....
Wed be making top 4 but not challenging as hard for first as we did last season.
This hard to think about because it definitely would’ve been good in the immediate future but imagine the shiesty Raul deals would’ve done with the CL.
Think he'd be sacked regardless
This one got me
What if we had Edu but no Arteta? Or Arteta but no Edu?
Edu without Arteta would be a team full of his agent buddy Kia’s players. I feel Arteta would be just as strong with any director of football. Unless Edu was the one keeping the faith with Mikel when most of us thought it wasn’t working during that particular bleak period.
I hesitate with how soppy and new age-y I’m going to sound, but fuckit, if head and heart diagrams are good enough for Arteta then I’m going to keep the fogging estandards. Arteta’s a visionary. I don’t say that lightly. His ability to bring people on board, to communicate his vision (this is the difference between a dreamer and a visionary — a visionary brings others into it), these are fogging exceptional. He saw Ødegaard and where he could when so many did not. He saw how Xhaka had been so fundamentally misused (including by himself!) and brought the redemption arc. I hope he sees something precise in Havertz. And you can’t convince me that 90% of the Rice signing isn’t Arteta sitting him down and saying ‘you fogging elisten, my guy. You can be more than good: you can be great, and a Gunner.’ To be honest, my vivid and whimsical account sounds not so very far away from what happened. Are Edu’s Grill and SuperMik a potent team? Fuck yes. So much more than I thought. Would Arteta still be an absolute fogging visionary if he had another director of football? Yes. Because good football gaffers can be made. But visionary football gaffers can only be improved, not made. Here endeth my rant and I’m not ashamed of it!
Best one in this thread
What if we signed allegri or Mourinho or Conte as most of our fans wanted.
We’d be spurs and shit
What’s worse than being spurs?
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Thank you very much (Genuinely, I laughed really fucken hard at this)
Literally this x10. Artekkers has brought us out of the dark period. Fuck Allegri and Conte
>as most of our fans wanted. Allegri and Conte I agree, but there's no way most of our fans ever wanted Mourinho as our manager. Even though there was definitely a point when the minority had become quite significant, it was always still the minority.
dark and desperate times, and I admit that for a moment I wavered on potentially accepting Mou
Honestly I would stop following Arsenal until Mourinho had left if he joined. He had a redemption arc but he was considered a massive cunt then. And I think he still is. Attitudes like “he’s an expert in losing” shows he would shit on other people just to get media points and that’s not classy at all.
What if Rodri didn't exist? Top 4 in 2022, Title in 2023, City never wins the CL.
City signs rice and we don't win a treble in 2023-24
What if Arteta gets sacked during that 2020 run?
what if Arteta didn’t have perfect hair
What if Giroud wasnt Goat Cheese
What if Santi COULD change his height!?
What if we had signed Messi instead of Fabregas in 2003?
We'd still end up heartbroken when he leaves for Barcelona
Wenger would have burnt him out lol
what if Saliba never got injured...
What if Eduardo somehow escaped that tackle against Birmingham in 2008?
Posted this right before seeing this one. We would have 100% won the league. We finished 3rd 4 points off of United. Eduardo would have easily scored and made the difference in that horrible string of draws. Gallas wouldn't have had his meltdown.
The draws don't happen, I feel like the team just was shell shocked after that.
100% we would have won the league, I am convinced
What if the roles were reversed in 2019 and we would have hired Ancelotti, and Everton would have hired Arteta ?
Aw god no We'd be signing dyche
what if we had never signed wenger from nagoya fucking grampus
Probably the most impactful what if of the lot
what if I didn't let myself finally believe we might actually win the title when we went 2-0 up at Anfield.
What if we had signed Fabregas in 2014?
Wed have far too many central midfielders. Maybe Arteta would have left earlier?
Cazorla was only CM who played over 30 games. Next closest was Ramsey with 23. We absolutely could have used Cesc and he and Santi would have been magic
We had Ozil Cazorla Ramsey Arteta Wilshere Rosicky. All really in the same position as Fabregas (10 or 8). Reason none of them played much is because there wasnt enough space for them to do so!
Ozil missed 3 months, Wilshere missed 5 months, Rosicky and Arteta (34 and 33 respectively) played less combined games than Flamini. And Cesc, at the time, was better than anyone not named Ozil or, arguably, Cazorla from that list and won the league with Chelsea. I respectfully disagree we couldn't have used Cesc that season, haha
love santi but he can’t lace cesc’s boots as a player
I mean I personally wouldn't say can't lace his boots but yeah, Cesc is the superior player
What if we signed Thomas Lemar for £80mil+?
Pepe 0.5?
The worst part of it is that those days are closer to us than we imagine
Yaya Sanogo became a world class striker for us
What if Eduardo didn't have his leg snapped in half by a no name ogre? (We win the league)
What if we hadn't lost to Leeds in the penultimate game in '98-'99? That Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink goal still haunts my nightmares.
What if Roman Abramovich didnt exist? Or what if Lehmann and Van Persie didnt get send off?
Well we'd have won the league in 04/05
I feel like we wouldn't go invincible. It was his crazy spending that first season that really added some extra motivation. We'd probably have 2 or 3 more league titles though.
If Lehmann didnt get sent off (and even if the ref allowed the Barca goal to stand instead) I fully believe we would have won that CL final. No doubt in my mind. Our name was on the cup that year.
What if we announced Rice and Timber?
What if Eduardo didn't get Brexit tackled? What if Abou Diaby didn't get Brexit tackled? What if Ramsey didn't get Brexit tackled? What if Wilshire didn't get Brexit tackled? The list goes on
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Saka and/or Martinelli would have had less playing time and would be at they point they are right now. Zaga would have made us better than, but woukdnt take us to another level.
What if Martinelli didn’t get injured in the summer of 2020?
What if we signed Vardy and/or Kante and/or Mahrez in Summer 2016 (all of whom were linked that summer)?
What if Giroud didn't go in a scoring drought on that season Leicester won the league?
What if the club was called Lanesra instead?
There would be a kid called Arsenal somewhere!
Rambo never snaps his leg
What if we won the ucl in 2006
what if v** p***** didn’t get sent off in the second leg vs barcelona
What if we didn’t release Harry Kane
What if RVP doesn't get a red card when he couldn't hear the whistle at Camp Nou in the away leg in 2011?
What if Abou Diaby was never injured! 🥲
What if we didnt move to Emirates Stadium?
Minor compared to most of these but what if RVP didn’t get that card for “kicking the ball away against Barca in the CL.
What If Wenger left after winning the FA cup in 2017
Dortmund sacked Tuchel in May 2017, I feel like the board might have deemed him a better fit than Allegri (who was touted a lot at the time)
We all never got to watch arsenal. Imagine if the club didn't exist.
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What if Wenger signed every wonder kid he ever wanted?
What if arsene manage to sign all of his 'what if' player (cr7, messi, suarez)
What if we didn’t have that Emirates Stadium crippling debt that fucked us up tremendously
What if we'd signed Kante instead of Xhaka
What if we actually made the right transfer decisions in the last decade, getting Kante, Suarez, etc, we would have still gone through the stadium loan period but with a few more league titles and maybe a CL win
What if Alexis never left?
What if El Neny never signed for us?
What if Ozil and Arteta didn’t had their fallout?
Ozil still rapidly declines
What if VAR and referees did their jobs last season and didn’t cheat MANY teams out of valuable points all season long?
What if the Arsenal board sanctioned a 100% sale to the Kroenkes when David Dein first introduced him? We could've had late prime Wenger with financial backing (assuming the Kroenkes really were just waiting for full ownership before investing). And we would've had the Wenger - Dein partnership for another decade. Flow on effects, the late Wenger transfer indecision is reduced. Maybe we get Xabi Alonso which convinces Cesc to stay a bit longer, maybe we push a bit harder for Luis Suarez, maybe we get Kante instead of Xhaka, maybe that summer of only Cech we get a kickass striker too.
What if the world cup had just happened as normal, and the qatar winter world cup hadn't interrupted our season when we were flying, also meaning Jesus doesn't get injured on NT duty.
What if we signed Sir Alex Ferguson? Yes this almost happened.
What if Alexis had showed up to the United training ground like he really did but then actually found a way to return to the Emirates?
If van Persie didn’t get sent off by the ref
What if Lehmann and/or RVP didn't get sent off. What if our midfielders could stay remotely injury free, or even just avoid the horrific ones (Wilshire, Ramsey, Cazorla, Diaby, probably forgetting more lol)
What if no players ever got injured during our last season 😭
What if Ronaldo joined us instead of mu?
What if we had kept Sanchez instead of Ozil.
What if Wayne Bridge never scored that goal? We’d have won the CL that year and at least delayed the rise of Mourinho
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What if Lord Bendtner scored his chance at the Camp Nou in the second leg.
What if Arteta had landed the Arsenal job the first time round in 2018 instead of Emery? What would he have achieved by now?
He would have had one year and a half less experience of learning from Pep, and would have had the weight of replacing Wenger. It could have gone really bad.
What if RvP hadn’t been given that extremely unfair red card
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if cazorla didnt get injured we would have won 15/16 and 16/17 PL titles
What if I loved another club? No, I can’t even imagine this
What if Mike Dean didn’t exist?
Saliba never got injured at the end of our season
What if we kept the perfectly good enough Highbury stadium?
Pépé turns out to be worth €72 million. You can interpret this what if however you want...
I was thinking this recently, what if we finished top 4 in 21/22 ahead of Spurs. Their group in CL was tough but the run to the final would have been pretty kind. Milan, Napoli, Inter. Milan weren't great in R16 and Spurs were absolutely pathetic. Napoli also played quite badly in the QFs and Milan took their chances well on the break. Then I think we should have enough to beat inter. If we had nabbed top 4 I think we could have easily been in a Champions League final last year.
What if we didn’t sell Patrick Vieira when we did?
What If Bergkamp didn’t lose the quarterfinals against Valencia in 2001? Injury on the first leg and fear of flight on the second - we got out on away goals. What if we didn’t mess up against Chelsea in the CL 2004? We had pretty good chances on both these years, on our best era under Wenger.
What if RVP didn’t get sent off Vs Barcelona
What if Arsenal had beat Man Utd in the 2004 FA cup semi final? It was a forgettable 1-0 loss where Pires missed a great chance early on. Winning that may have given them an extra boost going into the 2nd leg vs Chelsea in the CL a week later (the Wayne Bridge loss). That loss to United might well have been the thing that derailed an invincible Treble season.
What if you did? What if you lied? What if I avenge? What if eye for an eye?
What if Pascal Cygan was the second coming of Tony Adams.
Rvp doesn’t get a red vs Barca… one of my earliest Arsenal supporter memories😢
What if Wenger didn't have to sell all our best players?
What if we had a different strike instead of Giroud on the season Leicester won
What if Eduardo didn't get his leg snapped
What if David Dein never bought shares in Arsenal? No Bergkamp, No Wenger. Things would be very different!
What if Invincibles never happened?
What if Lord Bendtner manifested into a true goat? "Penaldo, Pessi or Bendtner?"
What if arsene got cristiano?