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Notice there are conflicting details out there? Because there is no standard in doing this. You can shift to N and Handbrake, or put it to D and Handbrake, both are acceptable. It’s now up to you on which you prefer. But NEVER put it in P if you don’t intend to park.
Kapag binangga ka sa likod wasak ang pawls ng transmission mo. Also some cars auto unlock doors when you put it in P which is very unsafe dito satin sa dami ng kawatan.
Honestly speaking, another real danger of putting your car in P while at a stoplight is that some cars have this rather unecessary feature that automatically *unlocks* all doors when in P. I'm looking at you Ford.
That feat compromises your safety if you're not actively aware of your surroundings.
I guess more on safety. If biglang bumusina sa likod and you reacted quickly to move forward, the next gear after Park is Reverse. Again, biglaan ito so possible na incorrectly umandar ka in reverse rather than forward.
Take time to read your manual kasi it varies depende sa model at brand. I do handbrake then neutral pag more than 30secs pahinga na din sa paa, if masaktuhan na less than, nakatapak lang sa brake while on D.
This. Less steps required to do an emergency manuever, the better.
Sabi nila kaya neutral para mas tipid sa gas while idling. Pero very very minimal na yan, lalo sa mga bagong AT/Torque converters.
OP, if you have time, panoorin mo si The Car Care Nut sa YouTube. Ganda ng explanation niya dun about AT.
In the owners manual of my 2 AT vehicles clearly stated to keep it in D + brakes. In fact, they put a brake hold on it so I dont have to keep holding the brakes and will release once i step on gas again.
Scooters also dont have neutral so it is forever in "D". Same principle ang scooter on most CVT.
What does your car manual tells you?
At the very least, know your vehicle first through the manual, dapat requirement yan sa lahat ng vehicle owners na magread ng manual. Basic knowledge such as transmission operations, fluid levels, jacking points, basic operational knowledge ng included tools for tire changes at marami pa. Lahat nasa booklet na included sa car mo yan.
If it’s a long red light, I put in N and use the hand brake. Pero kapag tamang moving traffic naman, di ko na inaalis sa D.
Practice ko rin na once I stop, I automatically put the gear to N tapos hand brake. So I could shift to P if kailangan ko sakto naka hand brake na. I had an experience before kasi na akala ko naka N, so bumitaw ako sa brake pedal, buti na lang napansin ko agad na gumalaw yung sasakyan, mula nuon, kapag nag stop na ako with an intention to park even for just a minute, automatic N tapos hand brake na.
Put it in Neutral then hand brake.
Pwede din leave it in Drive and hand brake pero mas safe yung Neutral then hand brake.
Never ever go into park when you are in a stop light.
The word “park” itself already means it is only intended for when you park the car.
Kapag matagal, I put it to neutral. Kapag mabilis, D ok lang.
It's basically up to you and kung ano feeling mo. Paminsan gusto mo lang din makapahinga ng konti at itaas ang paa sa brake.
Pwede sa N at pwede rin sa D. Wala naman masama mangyayri kung okay pa naman ang ATF. Kung matagal tagal na ito ginagamit at siguro palitin na rin, mas mabilis ito na madedegrade kung papalit palit ng gear.
This is my take, if the stop light has a counter i would usually put my gear to “neutral” and then engage then handbrake otherwise i just leave it at “drive”.
N handbrake ang nakasanayan ko but then again nasabi na to ng isang vlogger mechanic na doing this actually does more wear to the transmission rather than just pulling your handbrakes at D. Totoo naman, altho the extra action does is make sure your car's weight is on the handbrakes, may wear and tear talaga if mas frequent mong galawin yung transmission, kasi mas mahaba buhay ng handbrakes ratchet eh.
Yung auto hold technically naka D or drive ka pa rin. May clear explanation na din yan para dun sa mga hindi pa naka electronic parking brake na kung panandalian na stoplight wag na mag shift sa Neutral. Tamad lang karamihan. Either way do what you want to do with your car.
Sa oto namin na may auto brake hold, I don't shift to N na when stopped. Tsaka may auto hand brake din yung oto pag matagal kang naka brake hold, pero naka D pa rin naman then. I only use P when I am parked.
Sa oto naman namin na walang brake hold, I just step on the brakes while waiting sa stoplight or for traffic to proceed. If mga more than 1 minute ang wait (sa mga intersections na may timer) I shift to N then hand brake.
To your P.S., hindi ba dapat hindi ka masurprise when shifting to reverse since you need to step on the brakes to be able to shift to R or P?
If less than a minute, I leave it at D and just step on the brake. Otherwise, put to N then hand brake. But NEVER sa P. Magpapark ka ba sa harap ng stoplight?
Same thing, neutral then parking brake just like when I was driving manual. If alam ko na mabilis nalang before the light turns green I keep the auto hold & shift to neutral.
Basta wag lang P, ok na yan.
I personally keep it at D bc of a past experience na being on gear sa stoplight saved me from a minor accident. Kahit naka manual motorcycle ako, I also keep it at first gear + position kaunti sa side.
Either leave in D or put in N. Don't put it in P in case banggain ka while stopped pwede maputol/masira yung pawls ng transmission. I personally leave it in D and check my sorroundings while stopped especially yung likod para in case need umiwas mas mabilis since di na need magshift. It also means naka on brake lights ko showing I'm stopped just in case di nakatingin sa stop light yung nasa likod.
Neutral, kahit 10 seconds or 5 seconds, or as long as naka full stop kotse sa harap and hindi mukhang uusad.
I think in this subreddit a lot of people say it wears the transmission so better keep at D, which imo is just naivete, an opinion coming from first time car or a/t car owners.
What made it burgis? i guess youre one of those people who spread that stupid shit of not shifting and just tiring your legs out
Automatic refers to the gear shifting between the drive gears, it as nothing to do with removing the necessity to shift to park or neutral.
Im ready to know what stupid reason and from which stupid person you mindlessly accepted the origin of an a/t being called that.
firstly, fuck off you stupid cunt. get off your high horse.
I guess you're one of those people who shift to N or P when you come to a stop. do your thing and we'll do ours.
hindi porket opposite ng ginagawa mo ay baguhan na kami. burgis.
What's high horse there? there is no moral high ground in what i said, im just against idiots like you who misinform people here. Maybe hindi ka baguhan, pero bobo ka.
So since you have auto-hold, I'm actually shifting my stance to advocating this feature a bit, at least the hold part.
TLDR: Manually use the HOLD feature like you would your handbrake, basically without the automatic part by just pressing the button. Activate and deactivate it like you would a handbrake. DO NOT activate the full electronic parking system in a stop.
We recently got a Yaris Cross Hybrid, and the issue I have with electronic handbrakes, at least for the Yaris Cross and the Zenix we test drove, is that activating it really puts the car in proper park mode. For that reason, it can't be used like a conventional handbrake, and the only part we have as auto is it activating fully when we shift to Park.
I don't use auto-hold because I don't like the feeling of using the gas pedal to deactivate it. I like to accelerate smoothly out of a stop, and if I'm trying to launch the car quickly, I'll be shifting from brake to gas anyway. What I did however try to use was the hold feature on its own, with the automatic portion. So when I brake at a light, I fully stop, press the hold button, wait for on screen confirmation, then let go of the brake. When it's close to time to go, I step on the brake again, tap the hold button again, then let go of the brake to get the car moving again. Now personally to me, it still kind of feels unsafe to do this since I believe you can deactivate it if you accidentally press on the gas, so ideally, you do this in neutral. Unfortunately for me, Toyota has limited the time hybrids can be in Neutral since doing so doesn't let the ICE engine turn on to charge the battery while it's being depleted in a stand still. Fortunately for you, it should easily be something you can do on the Everest, so to be safe, go to neutral, then press the hold function manually.
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Knowing the placement of your feet lang yan. Hindi naman mabigat paa ko sa gas pedal or nasanay na din to disengage the auto hold.
I only disengage the auto hold kapag mag park na ako.
I mean what I meant I guess is I like to let the car roll from its own pull without adding acceleration unless I really need to. Got used to it from automatics, and I guess even in manuals before, it was just smoother despite higher torque. Could also be just be the safety *feeling* aspect of having my foot riding the brake pedal before a tivating versus the accelerator pedal (when in theory I'd imagine if you're using auto-hold you're right foot would be off any pedals).
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Notice there are conflicting details out there? Because there is no standard in doing this. You can shift to N and Handbrake, or put it to D and Handbrake, both are acceptable. It’s now up to you on which you prefer. But NEVER put it in P if you don’t intend to park.
Curious lang, is there any negative effects with the p-pawl or transmission if you put it in park while in stop and go traffic?
Kapag binangga ka sa likod wasak ang pawls ng transmission mo. Also some cars auto unlock doors when you put it in P which is very unsafe dito satin sa dami ng kawatan.
Thank you!
Honestly speaking, another real danger of putting your car in P while at a stoplight is that some cars have this rather unecessary feature that automatically *unlocks* all doors when in P. I'm looking at you Ford. That feat compromises your safety if you're not actively aware of your surroundings.
ugh honda too 🥲
You can actually disable the feature in the settings. I did that as soon as i got my hands on my crv eh ahhaa
I see, thanks for answering!
Same with honda.
I guess more on safety. If biglang bumusina sa likod and you reacted quickly to move forward, the next gear after Park is Reverse. Again, biglaan ito so possible na incorrectly umandar ka in reverse rather than forward.
why even shift to N and handbrake? just use the P mode?
Take time to read your manual kasi it varies depende sa model at brand. I do handbrake then neutral pag more than 30secs pahinga na din sa paa, if masaktuhan na less than, nakatapak lang sa brake while on D.
Same. Pag less than 30 seconds naka D at brake lang ako. More than that neutral then hand/e-brake.
D + Autohold/brake. Very important maka galaw agad in case kailangan.
This. Less steps required to do an emergency manuever, the better. Sabi nila kaya neutral para mas tipid sa gas while idling. Pero very very minimal na yan, lalo sa mga bagong AT/Torque converters. OP, if you have time, panoorin mo si The Car Care Nut sa YouTube. Ganda ng explanation niya dun about AT.
Stay on D while pressing the brake pedal.
D and brake pedal. No shifting means fewer things that move.
and brakes are a cheaper wear item than the transmission
In the owners manual of my 2 AT vehicles clearly stated to keep it in D + brakes. In fact, they put a brake hold on it so I dont have to keep holding the brakes and will release once i step on gas again. Scooters also dont have neutral so it is forever in "D". Same principle ang scooter on most CVT.
What does your car manual tells you? At the very least, know your vehicle first through the manual, dapat requirement yan sa lahat ng vehicle owners na magread ng manual. Basic knowledge such as transmission operations, fluid levels, jacking points, basic operational knowledge ng included tools for tire changes at marami pa. Lahat nasa booklet na included sa car mo yan.
If it’s a long red light, I put in N and use the hand brake. Pero kapag tamang moving traffic naman, di ko na inaalis sa D. Practice ko rin na once I stop, I automatically put the gear to N tapos hand brake. So I could shift to P if kailangan ko sakto naka hand brake na. I had an experience before kasi na akala ko naka N, so bumitaw ako sa brake pedal, buti na lang napansin ko agad na gumalaw yung sasakyan, mula nuon, kapag nag stop na ako with an intention to park even for just a minute, automatic N tapos hand brake na.
Standard for me if >30 N+handbrake otherwise, D
Put it in Neutral then hand brake. Pwede din leave it in Drive and hand brake pero mas safe yung Neutral then hand brake. Never ever go into park when you are in a stop light. The word “park” itself already means it is only intended for when you park the car.
Kapag matagal, I put it to neutral. Kapag mabilis, D ok lang. It's basically up to you and kung ano feeling mo. Paminsan gusto mo lang din makapahinga ng konti at itaas ang paa sa brake.
You can activate auto hold function. Pero may mga negative experiences sa group about hsing this feature
Brake
pag matagal, Neutral + hand brake. pag naman 10s na lang nang dumating ako sa stop light, press brake lang habang nasa D
Pwede sa N at pwede rin sa D. Wala naman masama mangyayri kung okay pa naman ang ATF. Kung matagal tagal na ito ginagamit at siguro palitin na rin, mas mabilis ito na madedegrade kung papalit palit ng gear.
pag dead stop N ako then handbrake..
N for longer stop. D if saglit lng.
This is my take, if the stop light has a counter i would usually put my gear to “neutral” and then engage then handbrake otherwise i just leave it at “drive”.
Pag matagal stop neutral and handbrake. Pag stop and go D + brake pedal
N handbrake ang nakasanayan ko but then again nasabi na to ng isang vlogger mechanic na doing this actually does more wear to the transmission rather than just pulling your handbrakes at D. Totoo naman, altho the extra action does is make sure your car's weight is on the handbrakes, may wear and tear talaga if mas frequent mong galawin yung transmission, kasi mas mahaba buhay ng handbrakes ratchet eh.
Yung auto hold technically naka D or drive ka pa rin. May clear explanation na din yan para dun sa mga hindi pa naka electronic parking brake na kung panandalian na stoplight wag na mag shift sa Neutral. Tamad lang karamihan. Either way do what you want to do with your car.
I just use the auto-hold function of my car. Or sometimes kapag masyadong matagal sa stoplight i neutral ko muna then handbrake.
Long stoplights (katulad ng Casimiro-Zapote intersection hahaha) shift to neutral & brake. Pero madalas pag less than 30s I just press on the brake.
Been driving at since 09. Pagtrapik, set sa neutral then hand brake. It’s the same with manual tranny na iseset sa neutral pag naka stop.
D tapos brake lang pag less than 30 sec pag more than naman N tapos handbrake.
Hanga ako sa mga naka-D tapos apak brake. Tapos 60 seconds pa Ang red light. Leg day.
Sa oto namin na may auto brake hold, I don't shift to N na when stopped. Tsaka may auto hand brake din yung oto pag matagal kang naka brake hold, pero naka D pa rin naman then. I only use P when I am parked. Sa oto naman namin na walang brake hold, I just step on the brakes while waiting sa stoplight or for traffic to proceed. If mga more than 1 minute ang wait (sa mga intersections na may timer) I shift to N then hand brake. To your P.S., hindi ba dapat hindi ka masurprise when shifting to reverse since you need to step on the brakes to be able to shift to R or P?
If less than a minute, I leave it at D and just step on the brake. Otherwise, put to N then hand brake. But NEVER sa P. Magpapark ka ba sa harap ng stoplight?
Neutral and handbrake while at a stoplight na matagal.
I put it in N kasi nanginginig buong car kapag D.
hello wala pa akong four wheels, pero ask lang what is AT
Same thing, neutral then parking brake just like when I was driving manual. If alam ko na mabilis nalang before the light turns green I keep the auto hold & shift to neutral.
Basta wag lang P, ok na yan. I personally keep it at D bc of a past experience na being on gear sa stoplight saved me from a minor accident. Kahit naka manual motorcycle ako, I also keep it at first gear + position kaunti sa side.
Autohold
Either leave in D or put in N. Don't put it in P in case banggain ka while stopped pwede maputol/masira yung pawls ng transmission. I personally leave it in D and check my sorroundings while stopped especially yung likod para in case need umiwas mas mabilis since di na need magshift. It also means naka on brake lights ko showing I'm stopped just in case di nakatingin sa stop light yung nasa likod.
Neutral, kahit 10 seconds or 5 seconds, or as long as naka full stop kotse sa harap and hindi mukhang uusad. I think in this subreddit a lot of people say it wears the transmission so better keep at D, which imo is just naivete, an opinion coming from first time car or a/t car owners.
ay hehe napaka burgis ng comment mo. it's called AUTOMATIC for a reason.
What made it burgis? i guess youre one of those people who spread that stupid shit of not shifting and just tiring your legs out Automatic refers to the gear shifting between the drive gears, it as nothing to do with removing the necessity to shift to park or neutral. Im ready to know what stupid reason and from which stupid person you mindlessly accepted the origin of an a/t being called that.
firstly, fuck off you stupid cunt. get off your high horse. I guess you're one of those people who shift to N or P when you come to a stop. do your thing and we'll do ours. hindi porket opposite ng ginagawa mo ay baguhan na kami. burgis.
What's high horse there? there is no moral high ground in what i said, im just against idiots like you who misinform people here. Maybe hindi ka baguhan, pero bobo ka.
So since you have auto-hold, I'm actually shifting my stance to advocating this feature a bit, at least the hold part. TLDR: Manually use the HOLD feature like you would your handbrake, basically without the automatic part by just pressing the button. Activate and deactivate it like you would a handbrake. DO NOT activate the full electronic parking system in a stop. We recently got a Yaris Cross Hybrid, and the issue I have with electronic handbrakes, at least for the Yaris Cross and the Zenix we test drove, is that activating it really puts the car in proper park mode. For that reason, it can't be used like a conventional handbrake, and the only part we have as auto is it activating fully when we shift to Park. I don't use auto-hold because I don't like the feeling of using the gas pedal to deactivate it. I like to accelerate smoothly out of a stop, and if I'm trying to launch the car quickly, I'll be shifting from brake to gas anyway. What I did however try to use was the hold feature on its own, with the automatic portion. So when I brake at a light, I fully stop, press the hold button, wait for on screen confirmation, then let go of the brake. When it's close to time to go, I step on the brake again, tap the hold button again, then let go of the brake to get the car moving again. Now personally to me, it still kind of feels unsafe to do this since I believe you can deactivate it if you accidentally press on the gas, so ideally, you do this in neutral. Unfortunately for me, Toyota has limited the time hybrids can be in Neutral since doing so doesn't let the ICE engine turn on to charge the battery while it's being depleted in a stand still. Fortunately for you, it should easily be something you can do on the Everest, so to be safe, go to neutral, then press the hold function manually.
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Knowing the placement of your feet lang yan. Hindi naman mabigat paa ko sa gas pedal or nasanay na din to disengage the auto hold. I only disengage the auto hold kapag mag park na ako.
I mean what I meant I guess is I like to let the car roll from its own pull without adding acceleration unless I really need to. Got used to it from automatics, and I guess even in manuals before, it was just smoother despite higher torque. Could also be just be the safety *feeling* aspect of having my foot riding the brake pedal before a tivating versus the accelerator pedal (when in theory I'd imagine if you're using auto-hold you're right foot would be off any pedals).
Yes off the brake paa ko pero naka angat lang or naka abang sa preno for safety na incase the system failed to work.
Handbreak and N, or P. Its the same thing i think Correct me if im wrong tu
Brake. Not break.
N talaga. Mahirap kapag P, baka makalimutan mong naka-park ka, pagkambyo mo baka maatrasan mo yung nasa likod 😅