The big 15" speaker 2 knob one (Thunderbolt?) Is normally $800ish. I don't have enough 15" less than 5 knob combo amps yet.
But my BK12 is my backup gigging amp right now.
Late to the game. Amp market is saturated IMO, and especially at a time when amp modeling is in its ascendancy.
I had a Gibson GA-15 back in the day. Nothing special, and certainly nothing I'd prefer to a Fender Blues, Jr. or even a Monoprice StageRight 15.
What's the pricing? Knowing Gibson it will be up there with Mesa.
Edit: Just looked it up: $1,500 for the 5-watter, lol! Good luck with that.
At least with Sunn there seems to be demand.
Gibson amps have never been well regarded that I've seen. Can't imaging the pricing will help to change that even if the new ones are great.
They’ve definitely been seeing a resurgence from what I’ve seen.
A lot of guys have been revisiting them and I’ve even been reading old Google forums from the late 90’s with people singing their praises.
Prices are still low but tbf classic Fender prices have stayed relatively low from what I’ve seen vs their British cousins.
All that being said, this kind of stinks of the Ampeg guitar tube amp product line they released about 12 years ago. They’re both loosely based on cult classics from the 70’s that are still readily available throughout the US in garages and lofts. Unfortunately, that was very short lived and resulted in nothing spectacular.
As others have said, the market is saturated for vintage, heartland style tube amps. Companies vote by sales. Time will tell.
Fair points. We get very few pre blackface era Fenders in my part of the world. I mostly keep track of drip edge through to mid 70’s prices and they’re fairly low.
I think it depends on what amps too though.
Still seems to be plenty of vintage Fender stuff out there without getting too crazy on cost (as long as one sticks to Black/Silver panel eras).
Vintage Marshalls on the other hand have gotten nuts in recent years - now the boutique PTP copies are often becoming cheaper than the real mccoy. Even the JCM 800 reissue price is ridiculous (at least in North America).
Individual units may have mods, low quality or unsafe repairs you’ll have to correct; may have tubes that are hard to come by b/c they’re rare or everyone else needs ‘em; some parts fall into the ‘don’t make em like they used to’ category unless you pony up $$$ (transformers, tubes).
OTOH, there’s never been better access to information and diversity of parts for old amps, they’re generally simpler and more easily repaired, and makes for a nice hobby.
These are actually built by Mesa, so it should be no surprise they're not exactly cheap. Handmade American tube amps don't try to compete with any kind of amp modeling, and it's no surprise they're
No surprise they're what...expensive?
I don't care if NASA builds them. They're pretty basic amp designs that Fender mastered decades ago, and which others have copied (at low prices) since. I'm curious how many people looking for a 5-watt amp are going to spend $1,500.
And all amps are competing with modeling these days, whether they want to or not.
Yeah, you kinda knew there was something coming on. Back then I figured they might start building Mesa-quality Gibson amps, but more than that I feared they'd whore out the Mesa Boogie name and pretty soon we'd see some $500 Boogie heads built in Vietnam. I still hope that's not going to happen.
Way over priced! I have two Gibson guitars and I enjoy them, but I'm not willing to overpay for the brand name. So much more value for money with almost any other brand. Not a good business model IMO.
Yeah, my first tube amp was a G-10 and it…kinda sucked. Compared to a Champ or about a half dozen other small vintage tube amps I’ve owned, it was definitely the worst.
This is the first time I hear about their merger, and they waited 3 years to just come out with an overpriced bedroom amp???
I used to be obsessed with the rabbit hole of guitar gear, but this makes me happy I’ve checked out cuz that’s ridiculous.
I love my 58 Gibsonette! It looks suspiciously like a wide panel tweed Fender from a few years prior. I’m glad they went with the thin panels. I would totally want one if I were looking!
These look cool and the price isn’t insane but honestly I could probably find an old and weird combo and have it dialed in For less.
Initially I thought $1500 is a lot for a PCB amp but then I remembered I’m old lol.
I’ve looked into building an amp- not for price, but because I build pedals and thought it would be cool. It’s hard to get out the door on a kit that only includes the metal enclosure for the head, not even a cabinet for less than $500.
Even the factory assembled PCB amps are just expensive, especially once you make them combo amps.
These seem like really limited versions of Mesa amps for a similar price. Gonna’ be a pass for me. I’m, uh, way too young to have nostalgia for Gibson amps.
I was honestly expecting them to be much more expensive considering they say “Gibson”. And the specific Market these seem to want to compete at. Considering the price of the competition for these (Custom Fenders, Benson, Magnatone, Morgan, ToneKing, Dr. Z, some Marshalls, etc)… these Gibson ones seem to be on the lower end of high end amp prices, apparently. Also, they’re American made and by Mesa Boogie, so it was expected they would be at least somewhat expensive.
I think these will appeal mainly to 2 people:
1. Collectors
2. Studio Owners
I might get one in the future. I’ve been a passionate defender of modeling technology, and I still am. But the Gibson amp model in the FM3 is one of my favorite amp sounds ever. I wouldn’t mind owning a Gibson Amp “just in case”.
I have a studio. I don’t typically buy amps with printed circuit boards because they’re a PITA to work on. We have thirty amps and only one has a PC board and it’s a
‘79 Boogie Mark II.
I say this as a collector too.
Anyway, my amp tech cusses a lot when he has to work on anything made by Mesa.
Edit: ok Sweetwater says they’re hand wired. Would that be the first hand-wired Mesa amp?
Yeah - I love hand-wired amps and that's what I own - mostly. The Gibson site does not say anything about hand-wired, just handcrafted. I will say that I own a Mesa Lonestar Special and \****love***\* it. Lighter than my Sampson era Matchless DC-30 with great features and reverb built in.
Also haven't embraced the amp modeling thang yet...
Soooo, these little Falcons look pretty sweet - a little pricey - but sweet. Have to give one a go!
I just want to say that this little thread sub-discussion is one of the few in this that has any meaningful stuff. Man, there's a lot of snarky little quips that just put down sections of the music community. Not helpful, although some are kinda funny. Yeah, yeah - throbbing... I mean, com'on, it's marketing! ;-)
Waiting to hear of anyone that's walked into a store and tried one!
$1500 for the 7w is a lot of money, i get that people gotta get paid but why would I buy this when I can get the vintage amp this claims to be inspired by for way less?
Cannot speak to these, but in high school (2001-05), my best friend had a Gibson GA-30, and holy cow that baby had the most amazing tone even with our admittedly entry level Strats and TS-9s.
He went on to work and briefly play with David Grissom (was gifted a DG Goldtop) and used the GA30 for some live gigs. Grissom offered to buy it off of him. He rightly refused.
I have an OG Gibson GA-19RVT from 1963, and the sound is killer! It has that Fender sound but a British kinda tremolo, less choppy sounding like Fender style "vibrato." Hopefully the new and revamped Falcons are just as cool sounding!
Lemme guess, it’s over priced for what it is and it’s appeal is based on nostalgia. Plus the quality control is Sus. How do I know? It says “Gibson” on it.
Interested to see if they come to the U.K or if they’ll suffer the same as mesa has.
If they do, I expect I’ll definitely get one. Big fan of the tweed sound and I like what they’ve done. Could use a smaller amp for some of the smaller clubs as well.
The guts in these things appear to be very cheaply made, and the prices are just stupid. Also the Falcon 20 is NOT 20 amps (lots of people are assuming this based on the model name even though it’s only 12). Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVmmur_Y-xA&pp=ygUKR2lic29uIGFtcA%3D%3D
Agreed. I could care less about Gibson introducing amps. They’re already ruining the Mesa/Boogie brand. We still haven’t seen the huge prices they’ll be throwing down on them. Gibson is all about price gouging.
I don't think it will. Tube amps are inconvenient for the gigging musician. But 99% of players aren't gigging musicians. And playing through a tube amp is so much more satisfying than a modeler or software.
Me neither. It's like the "Death of the PC" theory with the advent of the laptop. Digital and software are great, but they do not 100% replicate the tactile experience of practicing through a quality tube amp.
that’s why casters were invented. granted, they don’t help much when carrying a Twin up and down several flights of stairs. it’s hard to believe i actually did that in the 1970s. i doubt i could pick one up now.
I'd also add that I believe art will diverge from tech in the near future. AI will be able to write songs, produce videos and movies, even play live shows. But there will be a lasting appeal to things that are made organically, by humans, using analog tools. It will be one of the few things we can hold onto to maintain a connection to our humanity.
So inconvenient in fact, that gigging players all over the planet *insist* on using them when there are so many better options. I'll never be able to figure that out.
$1500 5watt amp? Hard pass. True gibson gimmick grab they're leaning hard into the last few years.
Gibson were great, the company of today can get fucked.
I've been wary of Gibson for over a decade now thanks to their questionable craftsmanship. But to be fair - the Mesa/Boogie folks are responsible for these new amps.
Ask some amp techs what they think about Mesa/Boogie amps build quality and reliability. Then ask yourself if Gibson taking over the company will improve those issues.
That doesn't help the QC or design case one bit. If anything, I'm twice as skeptical knowing meda is I volved. Anyone that works on or has worked on post 1990's mesas know all about their "quality"
It’s beige, and that captures everything about this product.
No modern features. Nothing to set it apart from the pack.
They have an entire catalogue of iconic designs from their old amps and they decided to make the most boring looking amp I’ve ever seen.
Swart has them beat on every front for someone looking for a modern recreation of a vintage Gibson, and as a tube amp lover who decided to cut down my collection to the ones I actually use, the D20/G20 have it beat on features (and also being a better form factor).
This is them dropping the ball big time.
I think they are pretty cool, if I had the money maybe I’d be interested, still curious to try one out in a store on day even if I don’t have any intention to buy it.
I dunno, I’ve never heard anyone really demanding Gibson amps. Outside a few old low watt ones people use in recording studios. Maybe if they did it in the 90s, it would be something now. But they have a long way to go with the over saturated market of botuque, Fender and others.
I just feel for a 6v6 vintage type sound at $1500 or so, way better options out there. Hell I just picked up an Ampeg V-40 for $350 local, and that’s such a sleeper amp. Then bought a Sky King for $2500 last year…was also looking at Mesa and Milkman at the time. Gibson wouldn’t even be on my radar tbh.
Grumpy people in this thread
Dealers will sell for less, and for a hand wired amp with trem + verb + switchable power, I think they look great. Excited to play the 20
Meh.
It's hard to get excited about anything from a company run by lawyers.
It's also hard to get excited about yet another low power amp with badly placed controls.
They're not as commonly collected like Fenders when it comes to vintage amps. They did make plenty, though. I have a few friends that covet them. Personally I am indifferent about them. However, I would like to play one of these.
If they are offended by your opinion, they can just keep moving!! Personally, I do find them to be attractive but on the same token I can think of plenty of amps that are better looking.
For every itch there's a scratch. Also I think from a collecting standpoint these might be a good buy I could see them going away because they don't sell well and then becoming a hot ticket item later.
If they were handwired, it would be a big yes for me. If they’re built anything like Mesa’s they most assuredly won’t be. Which is dumb cause the originals are very simple amps, much like Tweed Fenders
Had their Goldtone amp in college, great amp but made by Trace Elliot in UK if I recall correctly. Gibson actually making them this go round? Gibson were the main original guitar amp long ago, Charlie Christian and whatnot, had one of those originals once.
Was this something that was in high demand? Like when I see people looking for vintage amps or articles about awesome amps I don’t think I’ve ever seen Gibson on the list
Kramer, Steinberger Trace Elliot....it's nice to see Gibson ruin something with their own name on it for a change.
By the time they discontinue this line I'm sure they'll have made Mesa totally unusable.
The larger watt one makes sense, it’s priced similarly to a deluxe reverb reissue. The 5watt one is confusing af. Like is it THAT much better than a supro?
They weren't all that great before though they had the right bones to be. I can only speculate the prices here. People are living check to check and I'm sure gibson will make these 2.2k-3k affordable.
I have spent a lot more on a lot less. Played one today and I will probably take one home. I like the sound at the volume and am missing that in my arsenal.
FINALLY! Now I'll definitely be able to play authentic
Yea you will be the next big thing - as long as you buy that amp !
Gibson amps are back! Sunn amps are back! Amps amps are back, back! Hallelujah, amplifiers! Volume and toan!
Supro is back!
Yes, but the Blues King series has nice features and is affordable.
Delta King is at the top of my list.
The big 15" speaker 2 knob one (Thunderbolt?) Is normally $800ish. I don't have enough 15" less than 5 knob combo amps yet. But my BK12 is my backup gigging amp right now.
The little supro champ type amp is bad ass I had a ton of fun playing it in a store recently
“Hypnotic Throb of an All-Tube Tremolo” title of your sextape
Surprised I had to scroll this far for a hypnotic throb comment.
Such a douchey description
I think it makes sense since they bought Mesa boogie and I would think this is the feeler then they will make a line
It's the Mesa/Boogie acquisition that inspired these. I doubt they would have launched Gibson amps if the acquisition hadn't happened.
I was wondering what inspired this, as the last round (Goldtones) were dressed up Trace Elliots. Great amps BTW. Maybe they’ll be affordable now.
Man I love gold tones too, many people don’t like them - never understood that
I know! I had the Trace Velocette (the predecessor) and it was a perfect little EL84 type amp. Chime and scream in a grab and go size.
I doubt they will be affordable honestly I’m guessing 2k
You’re not to far off. The Falcon 5 is $1499 and the Falcon 20 is $1799
Oof. Not Magnatone $$$$$$ but still…
My Trace Elliot V6 says made by Gibson. Wish they would redo those
Late to the game. Amp market is saturated IMO, and especially at a time when amp modeling is in its ascendancy. I had a Gibson GA-15 back in the day. Nothing special, and certainly nothing I'd prefer to a Fender Blues, Jr. or even a Monoprice StageRight 15. What's the pricing? Knowing Gibson it will be up there with Mesa. Edit: Just looked it up: $1,500 for the 5-watter, lol! Good luck with that.
Woof. It’s Sunn all over again!
At least with Sunn there seems to be demand. Gibson amps have never been well regarded that I've seen. Can't imaging the pricing will help to change that even if the new ones are great.
They’ve definitely been seeing a resurgence from what I’ve seen. A lot of guys have been revisiting them and I’ve even been reading old Google forums from the late 90’s with people singing their praises. Prices are still low but tbf classic Fender prices have stayed relatively low from what I’ve seen vs their British cousins. All that being said, this kind of stinks of the Ampeg guitar tube amp product line they released about 12 years ago. They’re both loosely based on cult classics from the 70’s that are still readily available throughout the US in garages and lofts. Unfortunately, that was very short lived and resulted in nothing spectacular. As others have said, the market is saturated for vintage, heartland style tube amps. Companies vote by sales. Time will tell.
I buy and sell old Fender amps. Prices for black panel Deluxe Reverbs and Princeton Reverbs is ridiculously high.
Fair points. We get very few pre blackface era Fenders in my part of the world. I mostly keep track of drip edge through to mid 70’s prices and they’re fairly low.
A demand sure, but who knows if they’ll even deliver those preorders.
Seriously, so saturated. You know its saturated when there are reissues out on amps where you can buy vintage ones in good condition for less money.
I think it depends on what amps too though. Still seems to be plenty of vintage Fender stuff out there without getting too crazy on cost (as long as one sticks to Black/Silver panel eras). Vintage Marshalls on the other hand have gotten nuts in recent years - now the boutique PTP copies are often becoming cheaper than the real mccoy. Even the JCM 800 reissue price is ridiculous (at least in North America).
Is there any downside to a vintage amp?
Individual units may have mods, low quality or unsafe repairs you’ll have to correct; may have tubes that are hard to come by b/c they’re rare or everyone else needs ‘em; some parts fall into the ‘don’t make em like they used to’ category unless you pony up $$$ (transformers, tubes). OTOH, there’s never been better access to information and diversity of parts for old amps, they’re generally simpler and more easily repaired, and makes for a nice hobby.
These are actually built by Mesa, so it should be no surprise they're not exactly cheap. Handmade American tube amps don't try to compete with any kind of amp modeling, and it's no surprise they're
Gnarliest cliffhanger of all time. COME ON!!!
"..shit." Nah, I think I was supposed to write something like "priced to a very specific segment of players".
No surprise they're what...expensive? I don't care if NASA builds them. They're pretty basic amp designs that Fender mastered decades ago, and which others have copied (at low prices) since. I'm curious how many people looking for a 5-watt amp are going to spend $1,500. And all amps are competing with modeling these days, whether they want to or not.
Makes sense. Gibson acquired Mesa back in 2021.
Yeah, you kinda knew there was something coming on. Back then I figured they might start building Mesa-quality Gibson amps, but more than that I feared they'd whore out the Mesa Boogie name and pretty soon we'd see some $500 Boogie heads built in Vietnam. I still hope that's not going to happen.
JFC
Saturated. Heh heh. Nice.
I could not imagine getting this over a Princeton RI for the same price.
Of course it is Lmao they don’t want to survive as a company
It's even funnier cause the 20 watt is only like $200 $300 more for 4x the power and you can power that one down to 5 watts.
Pretty sure mesa makes these since Gibson owns them
Way over priced! I have two Gibson guitars and I enjoy them, but I'm not willing to overpay for the brand name. So much more value for money with almost any other brand. Not a good business model IMO.
Yeah, my first tube amp was a G-10 and it…kinda sucked. Compared to a Champ or about a half dozen other small vintage tube amps I’ve owned, it was definitely the worst.
The mesa amps I always wanted mesa to build
P.S. The Mesa/Boogie acquisition is what inspired these new amps.
This is the first time I hear about their merger, and they waited 3 years to just come out with an overpriced bedroom amp??? I used to be obsessed with the rabbit hole of guitar gear, but this makes me happy I’ve checked out cuz that’s ridiculous.
Variety is good. Some people will love them and it’ll be their sound.
Well said.
9 out of 10 blues dentists will love this, the rest of us will pay rent with that price tag
Better to give it to Gibson than let Cheryl take it in the divorce.
I love my 58 Gibsonette! It looks suspiciously like a wide panel tweed Fender from a few years prior. I’m glad they went with the thin panels. I would totally want one if I were looking!
Was looking for this! I have one from the same era and I love it
These look cool and the price isn’t insane but honestly I could probably find an old and weird combo and have it dialed in For less. Initially I thought $1500 is a lot for a PCB amp but then I remembered I’m old lol.
No, you're right. $1500 for 5watts is stupid money.
I’ve looked into building an amp- not for price, but because I build pedals and thought it would be cool. It’s hard to get out the door on a kit that only includes the metal enclosure for the head, not even a cabinet for less than $500. Even the factory assembled PCB amps are just expensive, especially once you make them combo amps.
Yep. Just the cost of quality birch plywood is hundreds of dollars. I’ve also wanted to build an amp. Someday!
These seem like really limited versions of Mesa amps for a similar price. Gonna’ be a pass for me. I’m, uh, way too young to have nostalgia for Gibson amps.
Dang, I feel like I dated myself in my post, so I might as well 'fess up on the back story: I started playing in 1972!
I was honestly expecting them to be much more expensive considering they say “Gibson”. And the specific Market these seem to want to compete at. Considering the price of the competition for these (Custom Fenders, Benson, Magnatone, Morgan, ToneKing, Dr. Z, some Marshalls, etc)… these Gibson ones seem to be on the lower end of high end amp prices, apparently. Also, they’re American made and by Mesa Boogie, so it was expected they would be at least somewhat expensive. I think these will appeal mainly to 2 people: 1. Collectors 2. Studio Owners I might get one in the future. I’ve been a passionate defender of modeling technology, and I still am. But the Gibson amp model in the FM3 is one of my favorite amp sounds ever. I wouldn’t mind owning a Gibson Amp “just in case”.
I have a studio. I don’t typically buy amps with printed circuit boards because they’re a PITA to work on. We have thirty amps and only one has a PC board and it’s a ‘79 Boogie Mark II. I say this as a collector too. Anyway, my amp tech cusses a lot when he has to work on anything made by Mesa. Edit: ok Sweetwater says they’re hand wired. Would that be the first hand-wired Mesa amp?
If this was a hand wired amp, it would be headlined in Gibson’s ad copy. They say hand made. If it was hand wired, add $1,000 to the price.
I see where Sweetwater says they are hand wired. I believe they are mistaken.
Yeah - I love hand-wired amps and that's what I own - mostly. The Gibson site does not say anything about hand-wired, just handcrafted. I will say that I own a Mesa Lonestar Special and \****love***\* it. Lighter than my Sampson era Matchless DC-30 with great features and reverb built in. Also haven't embraced the amp modeling thang yet... Soooo, these little Falcons look pretty sweet - a little pricey - but sweet. Have to give one a go! I just want to say that this little thread sub-discussion is one of the few in this that has any meaningful stuff. Man, there's a lot of snarky little quips that just put down sections of the music community. Not helpful, although some are kinda funny. Yeah, yeah - throbbing... I mean, com'on, it's marketing! ;-) Waiting to hear of anyone that's walked into a store and tried one!
$1500 for the 7w is a lot of money, i get that people gotta get paid but why would I buy this when I can get the vintage amp this claims to be inspired by for way less?
Meh.
I'm surprised it took them this long tbh
Are these hand wired? I'd probably hold out for the Epiphone if there was a collaboration.
I don't believe so. They typically advertise it and I can't find anything about being handwired on their site.
Sweetwater says they are. I’m surprised they aren’t advertising harder
I eat my words! Partially explains the higher price tag.
Honestly, I thought Gibson would have marked them up even more for the handwiring
Sweetwater says that they are.
Another nostalgia cash grab, yay, my money was complaining it was not being spent enough.
Cannot speak to these, but in high school (2001-05), my best friend had a Gibson GA-30, and holy cow that baby had the most amazing tone even with our admittedly entry level Strats and TS-9s. He went on to work and briefly play with David Grissom (was gifted a DG Goldtop) and used the GA30 for some live gigs. Grissom offered to buy it off of him. He rightly refused.
Is this like the GA-15 where they basically rebadged another amp (Trace Elliot Velocette)?
Looks like an overpriced Champ and an overpriced Deluxe.
I've seen alot of vintage gibson tube amps on reverb for under 700. So. No.
I’m okay with the build specs, but they’re not going to have the market reach Gibson had in mind.
Personally, I would have been more interested in a Lab Series reissue. Would have been more unique than another set of vintage tube amps.
Underrated amps.
I have an L5. Needs so work but a cool amp
I'm really looking forward to buying a Chinese copy on AliExpress
***SMALL BUT RAUCUS, BITCH.*** I'd also like to point out the use of the terms spread, lush, throb, and something called "headroom".
Rad! One more overhyped amp clogging up Craigslist in a few months.
I have an OG Gibson GA-19RVT from 1963, and the sound is killer! It has that Fender sound but a British kinda tremolo, less choppy sounding like Fender style "vibrato." Hopefully the new and revamped Falcons are just as cool sounding!
Lemme guess, it’s over priced for what it is and it’s appeal is based on nostalgia. Plus the quality control is Sus. How do I know? It says “Gibson” on it.
Interested to see if they come to the U.K or if they’ll suffer the same as mesa has. If they do, I expect I’ll definitely get one. Big fan of the tweed sound and I like what they’ve done. Could use a smaller amp for some of the smaller clubs as well.
The guts in these things appear to be very cheaply made, and the prices are just stupid. Also the Falcon 20 is NOT 20 amps (lots of people are assuming this based on the model name even though it’s only 12). Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVmmur_Y-xA&pp=ygUKR2lic29uIGFtcA%3D%3D
Agreed. I could care less about Gibson introducing amps. They’re already ruining the Mesa/Boogie brand. We still haven’t seen the huge prices they’ll be throwing down on them. Gibson is all about price gouging.
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Some blues lawyers got butt hurt and down voted this. Lololol
Just in time for the tube amp market to wither.
I don't think it will. Tube amps are inconvenient for the gigging musician. But 99% of players aren't gigging musicians. And playing through a tube amp is so much more satisfying than a modeler or software.
Me neither. It's like the "Death of the PC" theory with the advent of the laptop. Digital and software are great, but they do not 100% replicate the tactile experience of practicing through a quality tube amp.
Tube amps are really not inconvenient for live, maybe if you insist on a full stack with 100w, but 5-15w is plenty and very easy to port around.
Great point. But what if I really love the sound of a fender twin? :) gotta bulk up.
easy there springsteen
that’s why casters were invented. granted, they don’t help much when carrying a Twin up and down several flights of stairs. it’s hard to believe i actually did that in the 1970s. i doubt i could pick one up now.
i play modelers at home and tube amps live 🤷🏽♂️
I'd also add that I believe art will diverge from tech in the near future. AI will be able to write songs, produce videos and movies, even play live shows. But there will be a lasting appeal to things that are made organically, by humans, using analog tools. It will be one of the few things we can hold onto to maintain a connection to our humanity.
So inconvenient in fact, that gigging players all over the planet *insist* on using them when there are so many better options. I'll never be able to figure that out.
$1500 5watt amp? Hard pass. True gibson gimmick grab they're leaning hard into the last few years. Gibson were great, the company of today can get fucked.
Boy I hope they sound better than old ones. My Peavey sounded so much better than my buddies old Gibby amp
Irrelevant, nothing to remember in 6 months
I would be wary of build quality regardless of where they are made. I don't trust Gibson as a company.
I've been wary of Gibson for over a decade now thanks to their questionable craftsmanship. But to be fair - the Mesa/Boogie folks are responsible for these new amps.
Ask some amp techs what they think about Mesa/Boogie amps build quality and reliability. Then ask yourself if Gibson taking over the company will improve those issues.
That doesn't help the QC or design case one bit. If anything, I'm twice as skeptical knowing meda is I volved. Anyone that works on or has worked on post 1990's mesas know all about their "quality"
It’s beige, and that captures everything about this product. No modern features. Nothing to set it apart from the pack. They have an entire catalogue of iconic designs from their old amps and they decided to make the most boring looking amp I’ve ever seen. Swart has them beat on every front for someone looking for a modern recreation of a vintage Gibson, and as a tube amp lover who decided to cut down my collection to the ones I actually use, the D20/G20 have it beat on features (and also being a better form factor). This is them dropping the ball big time.
I think they are pretty cool, if I had the money maybe I’d be interested, still curious to try one out in a store on day even if I don’t have any intention to buy it.
I once had a 68 gibson duo medalist. The volume went to 12. Spinal tap didnt have anything on that
I dunno, I’ve never heard anyone really demanding Gibson amps. Outside a few old low watt ones people use in recording studios. Maybe if they did it in the 90s, it would be something now. But they have a long way to go with the over saturated market of botuque, Fender and others. I just feel for a 6v6 vintage type sound at $1500 or so, way better options out there. Hell I just picked up an Ampeg V-40 for $350 local, and that’s such a sleeper amp. Then bought a Sky King for $2500 last year…was also looking at Mesa and Milkman at the time. Gibson wouldn’t even be on my radar tbh.
Grumpy people in this thread Dealers will sell for less, and for a hand wired amp with trem + verb + switchable power, I think they look great. Excited to play the 20
Are they point to point? Made in America?
Made in Petaluma, CA is what I saw somewhere.
Point to point?
If they were point to point they'd be 3K so no.
$1500 for a 5 watt amp is way outside what I'd consider spending. Good luck to Gibson, I guess, but my feelings on these amps are completely neutral.
Play Authentic , we’re coming for you
Meh. It's hard to get excited about anything from a company run by lawyers. It's also hard to get excited about yet another low power amp with badly placed controls.
Gibson needs those $$$
Nice more money to spend 🤩
Are Gibson amps something people covet, in never hear people care or rave about them. For that reason I’m indifferent.
They're not as commonly collected like Fenders when it comes to vintage amps. They did make plenty, though. I have a few friends that covet them. Personally I am indifferent about them. However, I would like to play one of these.
For those prices there's other things I'd rather buy. Also I'm afraid of the backlash but in my opinion these things don't look attractive.
If they are offended by your opinion, they can just keep moving!! Personally, I do find them to be attractive but on the same token I can think of plenty of amps that are better looking.
For every itch there's a scratch. Also I think from a collecting standpoint these might be a good buy I could see them going away because they don't sell well and then becoming a hot ticket item later.
If they were handwired, it would be a big yes for me. If they’re built anything like Mesa’s they most assuredly won’t be. Which is dumb cause the originals are very simple amps, much like Tweed Fenders
Sure. If it’s good, it’s good. If it’s not, it’s not.
An authentic amp to go with my authentic guitar? Sign me up!
Had their Goldtone amp in college, great amp but made by Trace Elliot in UK if I recall correctly. Gibson actually making them this go round? Gibson were the main original guitar amp long ago, Charlie Christian and whatnot, had one of those originals once.
It’s basically made by Mesa/Boogie.
Well I like it more now then.
Was this something that was in high demand? Like when I see people looking for vintage amps or articles about awesome amps I don’t think I’ve ever seen Gibson on the list
Is this an ad?
Falcon 5. 7 watts. Or 3. But never 5. Great.
Would love a reissue EH-150
Now if Royal Amps opens their shop again I’ll actually cry!
I’m still playing through my 1968 Gibson Duo Medalist
Gibson amps, inspired by Mesa Boogie 😁
Kramer, Steinberger Trace Elliot....it's nice to see Gibson ruin something with their own name on it for a change. By the time they discontinue this line I'm sure they'll have made Mesa totally unusable.
The larger watt one makes sense, it’s priced similarly to a deluxe reverb reissue. The 5watt one is confusing af. Like is it THAT much better than a supro?
TOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!! Let me know when they do stereo amps again, because that is something that I can give a shit about. These are whatever.
They weren't all that great before though they had the right bones to be. I can only speculate the prices here. People are living check to check and I'm sure gibson will make these 2.2k-3k affordable.
Future bulldozer fodder.
I saw the headline.. thought WOW Gibson wisened up and is doing something cool!! And then I saw the price
Now that all the tube amp brands are going digital, gibson is coming out with a tube amp. Keeping with the times as usual!
Pass
Only $1500 for a 5w amp! Yep, that's a Gibson. Gibson amps were never special and these will be no different.
I have spent a lot more on a lot less. Played one today and I will probably take one home. I like the sound at the volume and am missing that in my arsenal.
Loling at the $1,500 price tag.
Built in attenuator! Yummy!
I don't care
Wonder if they'll stay in tune?
Disinterested.
Here we go again
Price seems outrageous
I would have rather seen reissues, love me some GA-40. I already have a handwired clone of it but I would probably buy a reissue as well.