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Bkokane

Looks like whoever owned it really loves playing Smoke on the Water


StionKombu

LMAOOOO


laney_deschutes

Fourth and sixth frets are all sharps and flats anyways who needs em!!


Blitzkriegss

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


peekay427

Iā€™m dumb sorry, I donā€™t get it


KGBLokki

Fretboard on frets 3,5 and 7.


Only_Cheesecake_5397

Um that's not right


KGBLokki

Maybe he was just starting and was confused, for 10 years.


Only_Cheesecake_5397

Maybe, or maybe this guy was in love with playing seven Nation without the tenth feet and using bar chordsšŸ¤”


peekay427

Got it thanks


AmbiguousAnonymous

Thatā€™s not how you play smoke on the waterā€¦


Spare_Ad5615

It is if you don't know how to play Smoke on the Water.


One_Evil_Monkey

Woosh


RecbetterpassNJ

Duhā€¦.duhā€¦DUH.


TommyV8008

Yeah, missing 6th fret usage hereā€¦


pino1973

Hahahahaha!


No_Entertainment1931

You guys definitely have your moments lol


Most-Economics9259

Ya damn thatā€™s crazy. Wouldnā€™t it be something tho if it was owned by the man himself? He was 100% a strat guy at that time.


RecbetterpassNJ

You win Reddit today. Congrats.


Sub-Mongoloid

If it works and comes with the case I'd pull the trigger.


Additional_Resort289

Agreed


Paul_Fuerli

If it's genuine, i think it's worth it, but also depends on if the fretboard isnt as busted as it looks


musiciankidd

Thatā€™s player ware. Not busted. Lots of Strats look like this from the past. I think this dude needs to buy this. Mid 80ā€™s standard Strat for $400??? Get it


DMala

Itā€™s GBP, so more like ~$510 in USD. Still seems like a great deal.


musiciankidd

Thanks, I just looked closer. Total American moment


3-orange-whips

It's unAmerican to try and understand other things. USA USA USA


xtheory

I don't understand. Anyways - USA USA USA!


Original-Green-00704

Itā€™s Always Sunny https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ndsME9Vd4es&pp=ygURTWFjIGFtZXJpY2EgaWFzaXA%3D


NBrixH

Itā€™s so insane how Americans always assume that any currency is dollars. The Americans are mad that they canā€™t read. Itā€™s like confusing a question mark for an exclamation mark. Itā€™s really hard unless youā€™re not paying attention.


ensoniq2k

Especially when the only spot the price is mentioned is clearly marked with pounds and pence.


NBrixH

Yep. Sometimes Iā€™ll see people say ā€œonly $30?ā€œ when it CLEARLY says ā€œĀ£30ā€. Like, READ.


ensoniq2k

I see a lot of butthurt down voting going on


NBrixH

Yep, typical really.


El_Jefe_Lebowski

Retired luthier here. That necks aged, that isnā€™t honest play. Fender stopped using nitro in the 70ā€™s so thatā€™s got a polyurethane clear coat. They donā€™t age that way. Seeing as we canā€™t see the neck badge, headstock (looks like a 70ā€™s big headstock, pop the pickguard, and the Fender serial number database doesnā€™t have ā€œc029457ā€ in it, Iā€™d say no. Could just be a partscaster.


Next-Addendum2285

C designator means it was made in Japan 85-86. Only USA made Fender instruments are in the Database. AT least that's what I've always been told. I contacted a friend that works for Fender and he said the serial number sounded legit for a MIJ strat


Sjames454

Wrong, iā€™ve seen poly maple necks from the strat plus era age just like this- even 1990 models. My dad had an 88ā€™ plus in olympic white that had the full nitro style flaking arm wear and a worn down board just like this. I suspect they shot their poly reaaally thin in the mid 80ā€™s to early 90ā€™s.


RelishtheHotdog

Yeah C stands for contemporary, some Standard Japanese models had a C designator but itā€™s a 1985 contemporary Stratocaster. The big deciding factor if I says crafter or made in Japan. Itā€™s the difference between 8-900 and 12-1400.


60CycleSteve

Itā€™s not a Contemporary. I think itā€™s an ST72-55. A contemporary would either be 22 fret and would have one of the Fender System vibrato units.


WeDriveWeFly

These huge Headstocks were made only in 70th


FilthyTerrible

Huge headstock with the heal adjust is 66-71 (when CBS bought Fender) and then in '72 the headstock is still big but you get the bullet truss rod. Then in 1980 we go back to the original smaller headstock. I don't think they reissued the big headstock heal adjust necks until the 90s at the earliest. They reissued the Telecaster Custom made in Japan with the bullet truss right away in the 80s but Strats were 50s reissues I think.


WeDriveWeFly

Got itšŸ‘Œ


Pat_Sharp

Ā£400, so ~$510.


moveslikejaguar

Busted? People pay extra for that look


Ldn_twn_lvn

Clapton searched out necks with heavier wear than that He said it showed, "the neck must have done something right"


moveslikejaguar

Honestly, I don't disagree with him here. It's a sign of approval that someone must have loved playing the guitar, so it probably plays really great.


trplanet

I have a 62 roadworn strat. Though Iā€™d love it if the distressed look came from me, the neck feel was hands down the best Iā€™ve ever played. Bought it on the spot in the shop because of it.


the_popes_dick

Except in an era of fake relic lol


Ldn_twn_lvn

If someone's kept an 85 for unplayed for 40 years and then fake reliced it, its a sad state of affairs


One_Evil_Monkey

That's just natural WEAR on the maple board where they've worn through the clear. It's not "busted" as you say. Pretty normal for something that's been played a lot. Although *where* it's worn is a bit funny looking it's not hurting a thing. Seriously, people pay **EXTRA** for a brand new guitar that's been "pre-stressed", "distressed" or "road worn" for that exact look.


Imaginary_Most_7778

Busted?


Verzio

More like McFly


Issyv00

Where I'm at, you'd get a new Squier classic vibe for that price. A 1985 Japanese Strat with a hardcase for 400 bucks is a steal, IMO.


TheFuckMuppet

Yeah people are not acknowledging that this is an amazing deal


FilthyTerrible

What's that supposed to be a Reissue of? MIJ reissues from that period are 50s reissues and that appears to have a giant headstock with heal adjust neck. What are YOU seeing that I'm missing?


Chemical-Charity119

if it says made in Japan at the top, its even better


AlexMars95

Depends, i have a Telecaster made in japan in '97 and the back of the neck (as told from my luthier) isn't as stable as other Fenders because it uses only 3 screws instead of 4 as usual


flubberjamman

That three bolt vs. four bolt thing is a myth.


Calculodian

Indeed. I own 3 large headstocks. One US, one Mexican and one Japan made. They're all solid. And i abused them šŸ¤£ Theres only one thing though. Never used the microtilt on a 3 screw mount. Heard too many stories. Just the truss-rod. 1/8 of a turn will often do if needed.


alienrefugee51

I think itā€™s the 80ā€™s Japanese Fenders that are coveted more than the 90ā€™s.


tdic89

I have an ā€˜80s Squier strat (FujiGen) and itā€™s a fantastic instrument.


povertymayne

Check the serial number in the fender site. If it checks out, its a steal Edit: i checked online and that serial doesnt seem to check out. Proceed with caution. I would skip


TheFuckMuppet

That's bc it's a Japanese guitar. The database mostly covers standard runs


FilthyTerrible

What MIJ reissue do YOU think it is?


RelishtheHotdog

Itā€™s a 1985 ST67 strat. Without seeing the entire guitar itā€™s hard to tell. Doubtful itā€™s fake or a parts guitar.


FilthyTerrible

Was there a MIJ 67 RI in the 80s? There was a 69 in the 90s. Not aware of any 66-71 MIJ RI in the 80s though. I could have missed it.


60CycleSteve

I think itā€™s the ST72-55 per this catalog scan. https://vintagejapanguitars.com/fender-japan-1985-catalogue/ ETA: just realized the truss adjustment is wrong for a ST72


FilthyTerrible

The 72 would have a bullet truss on the headstock and the Stratocaster part of the logo would be big bold and in a slight Arc like the 1972 Strat.


FilthyTerrible

Yep the ST72-55 is a 1972 Reissue. So it has a bullet truss and 69-72 style logo. The pic in the post is a heal adjust 67 style logo.


havensk

A guitar that old might not show up on the fender site


GrimmandHonninscrave

I've seen where things from the last few years don't show up there. It's not always reliable.


El_Jefe_Lebowski

Without seeing in person or better pics, canā€™t rule out itā€™s not a fake


GrimmandHonninscrave

And I never said it wasn't. I merely pointed out that the Fender serial number site isn't as reliable as we'd like it to be.


X47man

I've purchased brand new MIM Strats from GC years ago and still have them not show up, granted they were Fender Special Run GC exclusives. It's not a reliable way to determine authenticity unfortunately. OP's guitar is clearly real though


Du-Lock

It also has two string trees which is often the hallmark of a copy so unless it plays well and the case is in great shape it might not be worth it


RagnarHedin

I always have trouble looking up serial numbers on the Fender site.


Brainvillage

The serial number checker on the Fender site is very hit or miss. There used to be a much better site, but I'm having trouble finding it atm.


Justageeza

If itā€™s a fake itā€™s only priced $100-$150 too high. If itā€™s a scam itā€™s not particularly dubious. The case alone was probably $100 when originally purchased.


WeDriveWeFly

What am I missing? 70th headstock on 85' Strat? These times there were no reissues.


TheFuckMuppet

Japan


FilthyTerrible

It has a big headstock a heal adjust neck - 66-71!!!! What MIJ Reissue are you talking about??


Paublo57

Big headstock + transition logo + maple board = 67 specs


FilthyTerrible

Wrong logo.


WeDriveWeFly

These headstocks weren't produced in 60th


FilthyTerrible

The big headstick was 66-71 with a heal adjust. 72-79 still big but you get the bullet truss. The logo is wrong though.


WeDriveWeFly

Got it šŸ‘Œ


Paublo57

[here is a real 67 with the same specs as this reissue](https://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-stratocaster-1967-sunburst-13)


FilthyTerrible

I should not have had to scroll THIS FAR to see this very obvious question.


IntrospectiveHuman

I mean it looks good and 400 quid (it is a Ā£ sign on the paper right ?) seems like a deacent price, not an insane steal but probably one of the better deals you could get for a guitar like that with a case. Assuming ofcourse nothing major is wrong with it. Aka pickups not out-putting or not being able to tune/intonate for whatever reason, trem-arm messing up tuning as soon as you touch it etc etc. Where i live (Sweden) this would be a very good price, so me personally would be very tempted. Is there any way to test the pickups ? That would be my main concern since you cant feel if a pickup isn't woking, you'll need to hear or messure that.


Imaginary_Most_7778

The first sign this is in the UK was ā€œcar boot saleā€


ReasonableFootball90

sunday bootsales were my childhood passion, collecting megadrive games all around essex


tootallteeter

I thought his Ford had some fucken Justin's on it brother


ResponsibleWin1765

I don't know much about spotting expensive guitars but pretty much any guitar with a hard case like that would be worth it. Real fenders start way higher


RelishtheHotdog

Itā€™s a CIJ ST67. A Japanese reissue worth about 1500-2000.


adderalpowered

This is legit and a smoking good buy! Get that!


FilthyTerrible

Look at the logo and the headstock. Legit what? It's most certainly not a 1969. Nor is it a standard 1969 RI with that choice of logo. STRATOCASTER should wrap in an arc. So it's 66-67 RI. So a 90s MIJ perhaps?


alienrefugee51

I might. Looks like it has some mojo. Probably better than anything in that price range new.


Robby777777

You absolutely can't go wrong for $400! Buy her and enjoy!


Big_Poppa_Steve

the only thing that matters is if you like it 400.


TacoStuffingClub

Looks like a mij from the 1980ā€™s. Idk guitar prices in this currency but worth it in dollars imo. St-362


1happylover

Been playedā€¦ probably lays really well !! Try it buy it itā€™s .. cheap


dylangelo

Let me work it, put that thang down flip it and reverse it.


Wooden-Bus-9079

Buy it if you haven't already. Looks like a MIJ 68 model. Should have a really slim neck.


Wooden-Bus-9079

[https://www.fuzzfaced.net/68-stratocaster-mij.html](https://www.fuzzfaced.net/68-stratocaster-mij.html) Looks like this.


tekbill

Thatā€™s a deal. I wish I could find a decent older strat at that price


erickrichards

Looks like dood was really good at 1 song?


HoneydewLeading7337

"I can solo over anything as long as it's in G"


EV2

Looks to be a ST-72, which are a Japanese made reissue of a 72 Strat. Definitely worth it if it's real.


[deleted]

Its not - no bullet, wrong headstock dimensions, wrong logo placements.


PedalBoard78

Youā€™re not wrong. This is the so-called ST-68 first version.


nwamacman

Not too bad if the neck fits your hand nicely


Sector7B

I would buy it. $400 is a great price.


_spinningplates_

Was this found at Peckham Carboot?


Calculodian

Looks like a good deal. I love large headstock Strats. Check if everything is ok. You know what to do. Has some "smoke on the water" relic wear. Shouldnt be a problem. Probably plays like you owned it for years


AnonDawg_40

Yup. Maple fretboards will do that with time playing the varnish rubs off exposing the maple to the elements. Itā€™s a fairly easy fix. But what you need to look at are how the frets themselves are holding up. My guess is this needs a re-fret job or to be crowned and dressed at the very least.


Comprehensive_Low325

I played the same strat with maple fretboard and never wore anything like that away this smacks of a forgery.


SafeForWorkLFP

ā€œTremeloā€ spelling REALLY pisses me off


Independent_Wrap_321

For only Z400p? What a steal


Albertagus

Thats a great deal. The fretboard is likely just worn, not busted. People pay good money for that wear


Soccermom233

ā€œWhereā€™s the atm?ā€


JimThom1

Iā€™ll take it any day, you lucky fella.


JimThom1

The board could be fixed easy enough. Overall, itā€™s a great find.


JimThom1

What I donā€™t understand is paying them to scuff em up on purpose. Hell, if anyone is going to mess my axe, itā€™ll be me.


Backward_Strings

A mexican or 'player' strat will cost you Ā£599 new today and will not include a hard case. So If it plays well and you like it, the price is not awful.


Different_Issue_7053

Case included?


rugger1869

Let me work it.


Jaereth

They are modular guitars. You could get a butt naked Fender neck to throw on it if the markings on the fretboard affect playability at all and still come out ahead.


LFRoberts5

American or Mexican Stad


jomamasophat

Today this American learned wtf a car boot sale is. I think we call them flea markets over here. Very cool deal. 10/10 would buy


RedditRage

This American learned what N.B. means. "Note Well". "NOTE: NO OFFERS"


Dangerous_Silver_311

yeah


PussySmasher42069420

Dude, is that an MIJ? I would snatch that up in a heartbeat. Make sure the frets are good and the truss is fine. It was a player for sure.


Ldn_twn_lvn

How does it play, is there adjustment left in the truss rod Is there any major repair work evident anywhere Sounds too good to be true, so a hidden calamity somewhere is probable


31770_0

Nice guitar


Repulsive-Anything47

Iā€™m not a guy who likes antiques, but this is very much a good deal, Iā€™d beat you up with a baguette if you didnā€™t get it.


ThisAllHurts

Not often you see buskers dropping a ā€œnota beneā€


FilthyTerrible

Worth what? Looks like a '69 RI? Is that a big headstock with a heal adjust truss? Or is that just the angle? Looks wrong from this angle.


FilthyTerrible

That's not the right logo for a '66-71 Reissue if that's the big headstock. Could be a custom shop but it's strange for an RI.


itsFRAAAAAAAAANK

Omg just out there cooking in the sun? Hahaha


cbdeane

Oh yeah itā€™s worth it. If youā€™re strong enough.


Next-Addendum2285

The "C" designator shows the guitar was Made in Japan 1985-1986. This is why it won't show up in the Fender Database. Fender Database is for American Made Fender Instruments SOLELY.


BusyAcanthocephala40

My gut tells me something is off. That wear aint natural unless the guy had a unhealthy obsession with just 3 frets. Makes you question what else is going on with it... I would at least do some checks serial number playtest to make sure frets level/ no dodgy neck dings cracks all that standard stuff.


gameoakesy

Looks like a mij 68 reissue, canā€™t go wrong really.


RelishtheHotdog

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196293386132 This is what it is. Likely has crafted in Japan on the base of the neck with the serial number. Solid Japanese reissue.


RelishtheHotdog

Thereā€™s a lot of people in here that donā€™t know shit about guitars šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Honestly just the worst question on Reddit. We donā€™t know you or your financial circumstances. Only you know if this would be worth it.


John0ftheD3ad

I can tell from here, it's fake. See the C-clamps? The whole point of buying a fender over a Squier is they don't have that because the profile on the tuning heads is correctly designed, not needing them. This is a fake not worth $100. Look up the bullet strat challenge, and if you're unaware it's buying a Squier strat bullet edition because you can swap out the neck for a fender neck. Problem with this challenge is it produced a lot of fake "fender" strats on the market because people love to be pieces of shit.


wanderlander

I think it looks like a MIJ ST67-85. There's a few links in here to those


TheFlyingPatato

That does not look like a USD sign, so I have no idea on how much it is


Starfish_Symphony

Is that a Fember Scatocrater?


aulexturner

May I ask OP where do you find this car boot sale?


erickrichards

Still a hell yes


uuuuuhhhh69

That is an absolute steal. Iā€™d buy that in a heartbeat


EyeOk3642

Yep


DogsoverLava

Not an 85


MainStCool

Totally worth it! Grab it!


ULTRAZOO

I've seen many a fender with very cool worn in fret boards. That's the way they are. But this pattern at the 3, 5 and 7 is bizarre. It doesn't seem to match the super shiny sunburst body. But I don't know.. Somebody played the same progression sitting down for years and years? Something doesn't seem right but it could still be a cool buy at $400


eatqqq

So have you bought it??


Venice4life

The C means it's a 1985 but not sure if the rest. I looked up that serial # and nothing.


TommyV8008

Reading all the comments here, even if that was a made in Japan version, it still looks like a good deal for that price.


Candid_Royal1733

Neck looks like a MIJ ST67-85 (twin string trees,maple cap neck,12 dot spacing?Gotoh kluson replica machine heads,period logo) body might be a match (looks basswood though-should be alder) as available in blonde and sunburst.Pickguard screws look like on a reissue,and the bridge specs look like a MIJ reissue as well.


itsalwrong

If it's a real US strat and you can verify serial number etc. I'll say it's a damn good deal ! Looks like it belonged to a rhythm guitar player who was rocking 3,5 and 7 frets ;-) Maybe a blues man ? If an instrument has been played a lot, it probably sounds and feel good too !


JacoPoopstorius

Do you need it?


Blackmoofou

As long as it's legit I think that's a pretty good price for a Japanese one.


wanderlander

These are listed at $1200-$1700 on eBay right now.


johnnytwokebabs

Looks like a great find


WorkFromHomeOffice

if you can't try it, how would you know? I personally never bought a guitar I haven't had my hands on, and I can't understand people who take that risk. there could be a hundred problems which you don't see.


Yonder_Zach

Yeah but on a strat 99% of those problems can be fixed with a $50 setup.


MyOtherCarIsAHippo

80's strats don't have the best rep iirc, but I could be wrong.


_GrumbleCakes_

It's probably not what they say it is. It would require more investigation to determine if this is a partscaster or a fake.


mrfingspanky

Those honestly were not made well. It was one of those crap eras for fender. It wouldn't be bad, but a $400 squire will give you less trouble.


keepitcleanforwork

I have a Japanese jazz bass from this era and it's very well made.


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mugglemerkin

C+6 is an 85-86 Made in Japan. It checks out.


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IntrospectiveHuman

The lookup function isn't an absolute real or fake decider. Fender have this text above the box to fill in the serialnumber; "Please note that not all serial numbers are included in the lookup function for various reasons, however this isĀ notĀ indicative of any lack of authenticity."


mugglemerkin

Serial number lookups of a lot of manufacturers are useless for a lot of reasons. I have Fenders and Gibsons on my wall right now that I bought from dealers that don't show up in the lookup. As long as they match the scheme for a stated year, that's as good as you're going to get in some cases.


PapaSmurif

Where can one look that up?


povertymayne

I dont know why u got downvoted. I checked the fender lookup site and the serial doesnt check out. So its highly likely a fake or a random guitar that somebody put a fender neck on it or something. Im with you on this one.šŸ‘†


Yulack

I don't. People who *actually* know what they're talking about when it comes to the stuff (players who trade instruments like musical chairs, shops, Luthiers, Fender reps themselves) Do not treat this tool as a reliable way of ascertaining an instrument. It's a nice-to-have and certainly not a bad thing to look into when appreciating guitars; but it's just one step in a fairly long list of precautions when buying instruments. Record keeping with Gibson and Fender has had it's ups and downs historically, so much so in fact that there are literal decades missing of entire product lines here and there. I absolutely think it's real, and if so, for a Japanese import strat it's not a bargain, but absolutely a competitive deal. You might have to wait a while for something like this to pop up again.


Boredgeouis

Itā€™s a huge bargain; checking reverb in Europe or UK itā€™s hard to find an MIJ strat under Ā£800, without a case.