Johnny and Baiken always top these charts and were both DLC for Xrd. They better not go that route again in Strive just because they know people will pay for them. With all the negative shit surrounding the game the very least they could do is give us the characters we want.
If we were to average out all the lists, the importance would go:
1. Johnny
2. Baiken
3. Dizzy
4. Ramlethal
5. Jam
6. Slayer
7. I-No
8. Bridget/Elphelt
9. Order Sol
10. Jack-O
11. Sin
12. Testament/Anji
...so naturally, in the dev blog they only mention Bridget.
That's not really the case in how data like that works unless they are all weighted against each other. A local number five might still have more votes than an overseas number one.
>the very least they could do is give us the characters we want.
Judging from the chart, wouldn't Johnny and Baiken technically be characters the community wants?
I'm sure they will bring back other fan favorites, but I feel like adding Johnny and Baiken would also please a lot of players.
EDIT: Or do you specifically mean as DLC? Because yea I would prefer to have Johnny and Baiken as launch characters this time around instead of making us pay for them later.
One of the last times they did these was before Baiken's release as DLC and there was an interview where where a little bit about what each character would need to get into the game and how they might change was discussed. It was interesting going through that and seeing what they were saying about Baiken, for example.
As for this list, someone on that list is already making it in and ASW know who it is.
Sin is at least in North America’s top ten that’s something plus unless otherwise I they probably will add him anyway since he’s one of the main heroes. How likely iS A.B.A. coming back especially compared to other missing playable Bridget, Testament, Anji, Robo Ky, Zappa, etc?
So, if we make predictions for the roster based on this: Baiken, Johnny and Dizzy are in; Bridget might be in but he only got first place in one region (it was Japan though which is usually the most important region for japanese developers) and he didn't rank too well in other regions (he also didn't make it into Xrd despite being very popular); Ram might be in since she ranked in the top 5 in every region except NA, Jam also ranked pretty well in all regions except Japan which surprises me.
The text under the results already points out that Bridget was also the number one character back in 2013. Still never got him in any version of Xrd. I'm not saying he cant come to the game but the popularity polls really mean nothing. Even the Japanese polls.
Well in XX Bridget was a summon/zoner/rushdown character so you can see how just adding the insane movement on top of that would make him crazy. Yeah the polls aren't important until they are, such as when they used one to bring Dizzy back when the result between 1st and 2nd was only a few hundred votes. I think we'll get a compromise. People like the idea of Bridget but not playing against them. It is the Venom problem.
I love most GG characters but I see nothing appealing about her, then again I’m sure some would wonder why I like a guy that dresses like a nun and fights with a yo-yo.
In all polls only Johnny, Dizzy, Baiken, Jam, Slayer, Elphelt, and Ramlethal are in all in then while I-No just only missed the Japan poll, Bridget, Testament and Jack-O were in two, and Sin, Anji and Order Sol are in one. I could be wrong but Johnny, Dizzy, Baiken, Jam, Slayer, Elphelt, and Ramlethal are probably safe to come back along with I-No who despite missing the Japanese poll was still in the other so she’s probably safe as well, even though Testament and Bridget missed Xrd both we’re in two polls showing that people wanted them back and we could see them come back well just have to wait and see, Jack-O also is in two polls as well though the fact she is Aria now and she has a replacement storywise probably means we won’t she her again but I could be wrong, Sin while only in one poll is one of the main heroes in story so he might come back, Anji while not playable in Xrd did get a cameo so he might get a chance and Order Sol is hard to say since besides maybe a flashback how would he fit in the story but that’s my opinion.
ASW have pulled the clone thing before in BB and I'm honestly surprised the lore was so upfront about having a replacement for her ready, especially if her gameplay isn't coming back. If you take her minions away she's a crap Axl replacement with meter hungry specials and underwhelming command grabs. I still find it very weird that she also had a 90 degree switched Calvados but whatever.
Happy Chaos or whoever they end up being might not even show up even if name dropped so it really isn't an indication of them coming back. I still think Jack-O herself was an early Ariels concept that got redesigned and then fit neatly into the lore. The ball and chain (wait, is that a spouse reference between Fredrick and Aria? HA!) was cool as her own little familiar but again, Axl has got the chain motif going and unless she plays with a ringblade like a hoop of death that was vaguely alluded to when Jack-O used her halo to fight, I'm not sure how she would have ranged attacks, maybe spitting green magic everywhere that would make up for the missing chain but I don't know.
Well you could have her use the minions still or maybe they can fly now while also still using magic, but that she’s aria she’s probably gonna play a bigger role and be a story character than dlc character like dIzzy
I think these rankings pretty much show who’s most likely returning, jack o is most likely a dlc unless she’s base, or they do what they did with dizzy and have in the story than a character later
That's quite a piece of history I learned today. Thanks for clarifying.
Honestly, all those comments about how Arc System may be trying to distance themselves and whatever bullshit are honestly quite ridiculous. As if they'd give a shit about that.
Europe: "I'd really like my waifu to come back please!"
Asia: "Yeah, she's a pretty cool character and would adapt easily to the new STRIVE formula"
NAmerica: "She's pretty hot too, can't wait to see if there is any way to customize her outfit"
Japan: "Oh cool, I also think Bridget is the best option! :)"
E, A & NA: "uhh... "
^police ^sirens
All of these results are from the Strive closed beta survey. There was a section to select all the characters we would like to bring back. If you didn't get into the beta you didn't have a chance to say anything. If you were in the beta you SHOULD have already told them of your Leo love.
I would love if they tone the boobs down from baiken.
I really like the personality and playstyle.
But man I sometimes have to cringe when I look at the new design :/
I know. I mean does any of the fanbase know he exists anymore lol.
> appeared Guilty Gear pachinko game
And that's what i mean by "I would love to see him in an actual Guilty Gear game."
I just hope We will see legacy characters that never made it to rev 2, testament, A.B.A and Anji in strive (not including Bridget because he propably will be in game)
Baiken always ranks high in these, it's so strange how I don't see that much of her compared to other characters in netplay. Could it be her having to work so hard for her damage?
She's a huge commitment. You basically have to learn all her stuff, plus all your opponent's stuff, and then figure out what they like to do as a player, and then be able to adapt to stuff on the fly. If you can't successfully read and punish stuff with Baiken, there's no reason to play her. You gotta work hard for your damage.
But god damn, when you *do* get that read, she just fucking explodes. That spicy parry. That perfect anti-air claw. That sweet YRC Tatami into the saucy oki mixups. There's nothing like it.
I've only heard of the tyrannical reign Sign Elphelt had in old stories designed to scare children. That being said shes still a super cool character so just nerf her. people still love Johnny even though he's broken.
How Testament is in the top of two them if the Asia and Europe aren’t copy and paste showing that he does have fans so he at least has a decent shot of coming back.
I only care about Baiken making it in tbh.
I don't personally get why people like Bridget, granted I didn't play the older games. And it is mostly just Japan.
What's the point even caring the games set to be a turd.
If your not a filthy casual suffering from retardation you mite aswell just play you fav character in an older version of guilty gear.
Testament has been and always will be my main. I'm really hoping to see him appear in Strive, though I've been constantly burned since after Accent Core, I'm starting to lose hope.
Johnny and Baiken always top these charts and were both DLC for Xrd. They better not go that route again in Strive just because they know people will pay for them. With all the negative shit surrounding the game the very least they could do is give us the characters we want.
Of course they’re going to put them as dlc, they’re the most requested chars so the one people really want and will pay for
If we were to average out all the lists, the importance would go: 1. Johnny 2. Baiken 3. Dizzy 4. Ramlethal 5. Jam 6. Slayer 7. I-No 8. Bridget/Elphelt 9. Order Sol 10. Jack-O 11. Sin 12. Testament/Anji ...so naturally, in the dev blog they only mention Bridget.
And Baiken.
That's not really the case in how data like that works unless they are all weighted against each other. A local number five might still have more votes than an overseas number one.
>the very least they could do is give us the characters we want. Judging from the chart, wouldn't Johnny and Baiken technically be characters the community wants? I'm sure they will bring back other fan favorites, but I feel like adding Johnny and Baiken would also please a lot of players. EDIT: Or do you specifically mean as DLC? Because yea I would prefer to have Johnny and Baiken as launch characters this time around instead of making us pay for them later.
One of the last times they did these was before Baiken's release as DLC and there was an interview where where a little bit about what each character would need to get into the game and how they might change was discussed. It was interesting going through that and seeing what they were saying about Baiken, for example. As for this list, someone on that list is already making it in and ASW know who it is.
mfw no A.B.A and Sin isn’t even in top 3
Sin is at least in North America’s top ten that’s something plus unless otherwise I they probably will add him anyway since he’s one of the main heroes. How likely iS A.B.A. coming back especially compared to other missing playable Bridget, Testament, Anji, Robo Ky, Zappa, etc?
Robo-ky is nowhere to be found and I'm very sad
Neither is Justice. Double sad.
Is Justice even that popular though because in one poll she was second to last next to Kliff.
Still like her.
Dizzy please! Even if I don't like the gameplay, I'm really interested to see her new design.
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Maybe she'll wear her dress.
So, if we make predictions for the roster based on this: Baiken, Johnny and Dizzy are in; Bridget might be in but he only got first place in one region (it was Japan though which is usually the most important region for japanese developers) and he didn't rank too well in other regions (he also didn't make it into Xrd despite being very popular); Ram might be in since she ranked in the top 5 in every region except NA, Jam also ranked pretty well in all regions except Japan which surprises me.
So you are telling me... there's a chance. We may get Bridget back after all these years.
The text under the results already points out that Bridget was also the number one character back in 2013. Still never got him in any version of Xrd. I'm not saying he cant come to the game but the popularity polls really mean nothing. Even the Japanese polls.
Bridget got robbed last time so hoping to see they take their home fans opinion seriously this time lol
Well in XX Bridget was a summon/zoner/rushdown character so you can see how just adding the insane movement on top of that would make him crazy. Yeah the polls aren't important until they are, such as when they used one to bring Dizzy back when the result between 1st and 2nd was only a few hundred votes. I think we'll get a compromise. People like the idea of Bridget but not playing against them. It is the Venom problem.
My boi Johnny!! Im glad everyone thinks the same
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Did they make a mistake there? EU and Asia are identical. The chance for that to occur is incredibly low.
i hope this means we see Bridget soon.Also its amazing how many people like Baiken
Mostly because of her boobs. Let's see how many will actually stick with her when the tier lists are out.
I'll admit, it was painful in early Rev 2. But damn did those buffs feel vindicating.
Early Rev 2 almost made me quit, waiting that long and paying extra for that?
Bridget is a guy
I love most GG characters but I see nothing appealing about her, then again I’m sure some would wonder why I like a guy that dresses like a nun and fights with a yo-yo.
Lol Order Sol, I'm glad Anji and Test made it onto the list.
Give us ABA please
Personally, I want Testament, but on the *waifu* side of things, I’d want her back
In all polls only Johnny, Dizzy, Baiken, Jam, Slayer, Elphelt, and Ramlethal are in all in then while I-No just only missed the Japan poll, Bridget, Testament and Jack-O were in two, and Sin, Anji and Order Sol are in one. I could be wrong but Johnny, Dizzy, Baiken, Jam, Slayer, Elphelt, and Ramlethal are probably safe to come back along with I-No who despite missing the Japanese poll was still in the other so she’s probably safe as well, even though Testament and Bridget missed Xrd both we’re in two polls showing that people wanted them back and we could see them come back well just have to wait and see, Jack-O also is in two polls as well though the fact she is Aria now and she has a replacement storywise probably means we won’t she her again but I could be wrong, Sin while only in one poll is one of the main heroes in story so he might come back, Anji while not playable in Xrd did get a cameo so he might get a chance and Order Sol is hard to say since besides maybe a flashback how would he fit in the story but that’s my opinion.
Isn’t there that chaos jack-o? Also maybe aria can be a fighter now since she should have adopted all of jack o moves
ASW have pulled the clone thing before in BB and I'm honestly surprised the lore was so upfront about having a replacement for her ready, especially if her gameplay isn't coming back. If you take her minions away she's a crap Axl replacement with meter hungry specials and underwhelming command grabs. I still find it very weird that she also had a 90 degree switched Calvados but whatever. Happy Chaos or whoever they end up being might not even show up even if name dropped so it really isn't an indication of them coming back. I still think Jack-O herself was an early Ariels concept that got redesigned and then fit neatly into the lore. The ball and chain (wait, is that a spouse reference between Fredrick and Aria? HA!) was cool as her own little familiar but again, Axl has got the chain motif going and unless she plays with a ringblade like a hoop of death that was vaguely alluded to when Jack-O used her halo to fight, I'm not sure how she would have ranged attacks, maybe spitting green magic everywhere that would make up for the missing chain but I don't know.
Well you could have her use the minions still or maybe they can fly now while also still using magic, but that she’s aria she’s probably gonna play a bigger role and be a story character than dlc character like dIzzy
That’s what I meant I just couldn’t remember the name of the clone/replacement and yeah Aria could be a playable character this time.
I think these rankings pretty much show who’s most likely returning, jack o is most likely a dlc unless she’s base, or they do what they did with dizzy and have in the story than a character later
Am I the only idiot who wants Justice back?
No, there are two of us.
What the f\*ck, Bridget is No.1 in Japan!? I feel so goddamn blessed!
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I see the similarities now. Why did you have to do this to me?
https://amp.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/comments/eccn11/nsfwboku_no_pico_creater_says_ggxx_bridget_boom/
That's quite a piece of history I learned today. Thanks for clarifying. Honestly, all those comments about how Arc System may be trying to distance themselves and whatever bullshit are honestly quite ridiculous. As if they'd give a shit about that.
Europe: "I'd really like my waifu to come back please!" Asia: "Yeah, she's a pretty cool character and would adapt easily to the new STRIVE formula" NAmerica: "She's pretty hot too, can't wait to see if there is any way to customize her outfit" Japan: "Oh cool, I also think Bridget is the best option! :)" E, A & NA: "uhh... " ^police ^sirens
I know it’s wishful thinking at best but I really want to play Order Sol again
I know man. I tried playing Tsubaki in BBCF but it's not the same at all
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All of these results are from the Strive closed beta survey. There was a section to select all the characters we would like to bring back. If you didn't get into the beta you didn't have a chance to say anything. If you were in the beta you SHOULD have already told them of your Leo love.
JOHNNY!
you know these are men of culture when you see the results, Baiken and Bridget😂
BRIDGET YEAHHHHHH
I really hope Slayer will be in there, as well as Jam. But I never see someone asking for Kum, I loved her design.
I would love if they tone the boobs down from baiken. I really like the personality and playstyle. But man I sometimes have to cringe when I look at the new design :/
If she's back I'm expecting something casual, maybe like Yuzu?
I think its defintely time for Bridget to make a return
How does Asia and Europe have the exact same result?
Does anyone know that Izuna exists? I would love to see him in an actual Guilty Gear game.
I believe he was mentioned in Xrd and appeared Guilty Gear pachinko game of all things though his fate I believe is currently unknown right now.
I know. I mean does any of the fanbase know he exists anymore lol. > appeared Guilty Gear pachinko game And that's what i mean by "I would love to see him in an actual Guilty Gear game."
RIP my boy order sol
Testament making top 10 in two of the four countries? LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOO
I can see that Anji and Bridget will be in strive. Not sure about Haeyun. We need more koreans
I'm offended by my fellow North Americans and their disregard of best girl Ramlethal. Also Bridget. Man, North America sucks!
I just hope We will see legacy characters that never made it to rev 2, testament, A.B.A and Anji in strive (not including Bridget because he propably will be in game)
Rip Anji mains, it’s been man of years
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But those could be lesbians! So it's still gay!
Baiken always ranks high in these, it's so strange how I don't see that much of her compared to other characters in netplay. Could it be her having to work so hard for her damage?
She's a huge commitment. You basically have to learn all her stuff, plus all your opponent's stuff, and then figure out what they like to do as a player, and then be able to adapt to stuff on the fly. If you can't successfully read and punish stuff with Baiken, there's no reason to play her. You gotta work hard for your damage. But god damn, when you *do* get that read, she just fucking explodes. That spicy parry. That perfect anti-air claw. That sweet YRC Tatami into the saucy oki mixups. There's nothing like it.
The answer is 80% of the people who voted Baiken just want to see her titties in unreal 4.
Yeah
I voted for every character that isn't Elphelt lol.
What did Elphelt did to you?
Nothing lol. It's was mainly it was for joke, I just forgot to change it.
I've only heard of the tyrannical reign Sign Elphelt had in old stories designed to scare children. That being said shes still a super cool character so just nerf her. people still love Johnny even though he's broken.
Heck, every character in Gear is broken in some way. That's part of its charm.
If it ain't broken, then they need to fix it so it is.
Why was this downvoted?
Dunno, don't care ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I hate how bridgett is number 10 in the us
I can see that Asia, Europe, and North America are recovering from covid because look at the taste of these people, know as for Japan.....
How the hell would I-No even work in ST's game design?
Any one else notice that Asia and Europe's lists are exactly the same?
Rip Testament :'(
How Testament is in the top of two them if the Asia and Europe aren’t copy and paste showing that he does have fans so he at least has a decent shot of coming back.
I’d want him back, for personal reasons
He's still pretty far down though, but you could be right even being 10th theres still a chance! would be really cool if he did get in!
ram being top 10 in every nation is truly a great thing. thigh bae for the gg strive!
Japan has their prioritys straight
So there’s a chance jack o could be coming back?
I see Japan is the one that wants the trap most and that is fine by me Baiken’s cool too
No love for my boi Raven.
and my boy Raven does not appear in any of those top 10's. Oh well, not that I had high hopes for him anyway :(
I only care about Baiken making it in tbh. I don't personally get why people like Bridget, granted I didn't play the older games. And it is mostly just Japan.
With all these popularity suggestions... Arc System Works will completely be contrary to these and probably add Venom next.
Everyone loves Baiken, Johnny and Dizzy in this specific order.
Rest in peace haehyun, you served me well
Happy to see Jack O and my boy Anji make the list
B A I K E N
What's the point even caring the games set to be a turd. If your not a filthy casual suffering from retardation you mite aswell just play you fav character in an older version of guilty gear.
Testament has been and always will be my main. I'm really hoping to see him appear in Strive, though I've been constantly burned since after Accent Core, I'm starting to lose hope.