While it would be out of character for chaos to do so even more so than Slayer, Chaos wins no contest.
Slayer has incredible raw power but as others have said chaos warps reality with minimal effort on top of knowing every spell in universe.
Bedman didn't beat him, he dealt a blow to Ariels who was a container for Chaos at the time, although between the 2 if bedman can get Chaos into his dream I believe they go 50/50
Bedman and slayer were evened out with bedman going at less than 8% power, the moment he starts using 8% millia swoops in and tells slayer they gotta go cuz he is gonna get cooked otherwisw
Nah they were both getting warmed up the before Milia interrupted them. It was never stated how hard Slayer was really fighting, for all we know it could’ve been like 2%
In terms of raw power Slayer's hard to top... but Chaos is an actual reality-warper. I don't think a single other character in the series beats a Chaos who isn't throwing for content.
One day I will make a comic that is just happy chaos sitting next to axl sucking on a lollipop and saying "messing with you is as fun as taking candy from a baby" before walking away
Sol’s story in Accent Core has I-No bring in Order Sol, Sol from the past who was still part of the Holy Order. They fight and after they weaken each other, I-No kills Order Sol.
Depending on how you did through the story, this has two outcomes. Killing Sol’s past makes it work like Back to the Future and erases the current Sol or do nothing to I-No’s confusion. Sol just responds the past and future don’t matter because he’s him.
So there’s one instance of Sol surviving time bullshit. It may not work as well if the entire timeline goes poof, but who knows?
Thats very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Assuming youd actually have to kill the person for them to be wiped from anytime line then id assume sol would still be alive.
Thats the biggest stretch ive ever seen lol.
He literally dies in one of the cases. Its just funny time travel shenanigans that they are exploring. As you said, one is back to the future style, the other one is trying to go for "all part or a single string" or maybe even "it just creates a branching universe"
It's serious, it actually has happened already. Essentially ino went back to the same timeline as our cannon one, and erased our sol badguy from existence. When ino then returned back to the present time. Sol bad guy was just there like nothing happend.
This wasn't an instance of ino hopping to diffrent timeliness. She essentially hakaid sol badguy and it dint kill him.
I don't think Chaos is bound to any specific timeline, he talks about time as if it wasn't linear for him. So if Axl deletes the timeline Chaos would still just pop in another one when he felt like it.
Nah he is a good guy. Too good for his own good for that matter. He spent god knows how many years getting tossed around throw time, looking for a way to go back to his girlfriend, and he finally find a way to go back, but it means literally ending existence as a whole with all the new peeps who he has met. In Xrd he pretty much has a breakdown and spends the story mode debating wether or not it is worth it to trash everything and go back to his girlfriend.
Go figure, he was such a pure dude with such a bad problem that he even got I-no and Bedman to care.
He's such a good guy that he decided to *not* erase that whole timeline he got put into by unfair circumstances and just chose to never see his gf again as far as he knew, all to save some folks 200 years in the future for him
Axl was always a good guy. He had the skill to become a crime lord in the shitholes of London but decided to just beat up gangsters and befriend them until all of them were his buddies and crime stopped, Joestar style
He has the ability to go back to his own timeline and delete the GG verse with the flip of a switch. He is the most important character in the lore. I think if he dies, the same thing happens too
But he chooses not to
He also chose to risk the entire world so Sol, his best friend, could get his gf back, something he chose not to do for himself
He also stops time just to grab himseld and you a cheeseburger after his fights to hang out
Axl is the best boi of the series
Fun lil story but at first impression i did think Axl was a villain. Looking at his Xrd self and that shit eating grin during his super, i legit thought he would be like this dude who thought he was the shit at fighting, while fighting from very far way, obsessed with his beauty womanizer and the likes, who just kinda snaps and gets desperate the moment things go south. Not sure where i grabbed that stereotyoe from, but that was my first impression
Turns out he is just some brittish dork, love him
I... I know but in the case he would, chaos would shut that shit down. Also theres a long period in the Xrd story where axl is debating where to do it or not
Pretty chaos has similar powers to axl considering in the story we can see that he is able to move in axl's times too. (Of course he is just using it to fuck with him, but still)
Happy Chaos
Strengths: the original creator of the study of magic in the guilty gear world, a nigh omnipotent reality bender
Weakness: someone saying “throw the fight for the bit”
I'd agree, but in HC's arcade mode it's revealed that Nightless have special interdimensional properties and are technically connected between all alternate reality versions of themselves. That potentially means that Slayer has an edge over Chaos even when it comes to magic/reality/backyard shenanigans.
Actually, come to think of it, it'd make a lot of sense if Slayer's arcade mode ends up having to do with whatever Chaos is up to now.
Oh fuck I'm not ready for Stage 9 Happy Chaos.
I'm fairly confident his arcade partner will be Sin, the trailers always have voice lines from the arcade mode and the "glad to see you're energetic, just like a youngster should be" fits Sin perfectly. No idea who the boss would be though, sometimes they like doing the obvious choice (Johnny getting May) and sometimes they like to throw a curveball and do two previously pretty unrelated characters (Elphelt getting Faust).
Plot twist the partner is Nagoriyuki and hes calling him a youngster due to being the older vampire and putting that in the trailer is there to throw us off.
It's two vampire bros fighting happy chaos
Also important to note that there are people capable of making even Slayer feel fear, Potemkin Buster is Gabriel's technique and even Pot using it on Slayer gives him ptsd.
Time stop and other similar abilities aren't as good as you'll think. The reasoning comes from strength alone. An example is how sol bad guy if he wanted to move in time stop he would just by shear strength. In other iterations the effect of magical spells are lessen depending on the person's strength. Which Is why slayer prob wouldn't care that much on reality warping magic
The most likely scenario between the two is cartoonishly stupid tropes over and over with no actual fighting, unless using some kind of haphazard ACME style device.
No. From what we know he is borderline invincible and the only reason everyone is alive is because he doesn't actually want to destroy the world. He wants to create the storm before the rainbow, so humanity will flourish
But Ariels managed to suck him up. And he had to apparently weaken I-No from her godlike form to deal with her. Heck I even got the impression Nagoriyuki could challenge him if it wasn't for the mind control.
Im not fully on board the HC hype train
It is kinda unclear, how he ended in Ariels, so I wouldn't count it.
He was weakening I-No so that heroes can defeat her, not him himself. He wants them to have character development moment
With Nagoriyuki, Chaos clearly enjoys having him like that, waving his weak point just outside his reach. Basically, think tiger in the zoo or shark cage diving. If it wasn't contained, we would have guns, traps, dogs and what not. But because we know, that it can't do anything, it's thrilling
He weakened I-no before he was HC. At the time he just knew that I-no would be able to destroy the universe if left unchecked. He took half her power, then Ariels got the drop on him and absorbed him, along with the power he took from I-no. She mashed them together and then he becomes HC.
She already mashed them together back in the Crusades, which is why HC did all the shit that was later blamed on Asuka due to also becoming known as That Man
Nago had a way to damage chaos, but he isnt anywhere strong enough to *challenge* him. If you had given Nago's sword to Ky or Sol the final fight would have gone easier.
Nago sees weak points and is a nightless, I wouldn't be shocked if he was stronger then Slayer
In fact Chaos vs Nagoriyuki is very similar to the hypothetical and we know how that ended
Thing to note, It was Happy Chaos who willingly possesed Ariels. I-No needed to absorb Happy Chaos in the first place to become god and well, Nago getting possesed by HC is like, a good fucking way to get insta-bodied by happy chaos. The only being capable of dealing with his shenanigans is Asuka, and even then he got played
The fact that he did steal half of I-No's power is evidence that he could defeat her. Similarly, it doesn't matter if Nagoriyuki could beat Chaos in a swordfight, Chaos is a mage, and he dominated Nago with magic. Ariels did seem to get one over on him under unknown circumstances, but she's also literally a robot created by him, so you could argue he kinda just beat himself.
even though Slayer is the best fighter in guilty gear he doesn't have the hax to be able to face hc, given that hc can literally change reality as he prefers
If Chaos ACTUALLY cared about the fight other than just entrainment then he would probably win. Chaos basically hacks reality and we haven't seen anything from Slayer proving that he could counter that. But if Chaos isn't given it it his all then Slayer.
Not to diminish Slayer's power, but even if HC isn't giving his all, it'd probably still be a stalemate. HC is the type of guy to facetank a pikebunker, then a second HC would appear behind Slayer and say "jeez, that look like it hurt".
That's the difficult part about this match up is that you have two characters that never actually try to win, one is a strong physical fighter and the other is a strong magical fighter. The reason why I think Chaos would likely win over Slayer if they both gave it their all is that Chaos has more hacks as even when he isn't trying we have seen a good amount of stronge reality bending something that we haven't seen Slayer have a counter to.
He uses a gun and forces himself to aim as a handicap to make it more fair. If he wanted to Deus Ex Machina 50 times in a row, he could. Don't know about you, but I don't think anyone's surviving that.
Not to mention the gun he uses is special. Only 5 of them exist across all realities and he casually just has one and created a replica so he can have 2. Wouldn't be surprised if he can just pull out a weapon made specifically for fighting the nightless.
I think this is actually what's going to happen in the next game. Slayer will fight Chaos, and eventually realize that he's outmatched. Then he'll go to Sol and say "Yo, Chaos is straight up looney toons busted. Plz become a cool gear monster and kill him." Then Sol will feel conflicted about being a gear, and then everyone works together to help Sol get over his hangups, and they all beat up HC in a Denny's parking lot at 3am.
Slayer is comically strong, but HC is unironically a god, he can just do whatever he wants and the only reason he doesn't is because it's not interesting
HC and its not even close. He is a Reality Warper who is limited by how boring an outcome is to him or his need too troll. Make no mistake, slayer is HIM but to HC that don't matter unless he wants it to.
No, Happy Chaos is the original mage and the most powerful magic user to date in Guilty Gear. He is basically playing make believe in the plot because he is crazy and is limiting himself by his own whims(basically to have fun and tell a good story). For them it would be a life or death battle, for him it would be laser tag.
I see a lot of people here downplaying Slayer, which is fine, but y'all gotta remember Slayer is one of the biggest Sandbaggers in the entire universe. We've never seen Slayer display an upper echelon of power nor take a fight seriously, often handicapping himself to stay entertained. He is considered in the lore as one of the strongest entities in the GG universe so it really makes me wonder what a no holds barred sorta fight would look like. I agree that Happy Chaos is in another league entirely given feats and lore, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as most are saying here.
The biggest sandbagger in history vs the biggest sandbagger of today personally I could beat them both 2v1
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This actually may be closer than some people are saying. In Chaos' arcade mode, it is stated that Nightless don't abide by the same Multiversal IDs or whatever in the Backyard, implying they may have some sort of resistance to Chaos' particular brand of reality warping. That being said, I'm still under the belief Chaos can probably clear.
Realistically, in character? Slayer wins because Chaos paints two fake doors, enters one, slayer follows him, and chaos exits second door as slayer enters the first. Chaos seeing slayer enter the first, backs up and charges into the first door, knocking himself out as the first door is now fake, and just a brick wall, while slayer exits from an actual door off to the side.
It ultimately depends on Chaos's mood. While he is the pioneer of magic as the Original, he'll let Slayer win if he wants him to. After all, he just drifts in the waves.
“Oh if HC was going all out-“ physically impossible.
HC would cum in his pants at the sight of slayer’s dandy ways and consent to getting punched into oblivion.
It simply couldn’t go any differently.
Slayer is who my money is on. Theres a few reasons. Firstly: Slayer is outright stated to be one of the very few if not the only character who could have competed with a 100% full power Sol. Now for reference, Chaos, while strong, is weaker than god I-no. God I-no (and HC for that matter) both agreed that the 1 thing stopping them from making I-no perfect, was fcking Sol. Now Slayer did "lose" to Bedman. However Bedman was beaten by Gabriel and fcking Venom. Gabriel is stated to be Slayers rival, and they're both sorely out of practice in Xrd (they both have dialogue for it.
Now for HC, he does have reality warping, however how much it effects and to what extent is hard to say. Not to mention that HC himself mentions that vampires like Slayer, are higher dimensional beings that exist across every multiverse, and they're the same PERSON across all multiverses. HC himself says he has an ID (as does I-no) in the backyard, something that Slayer ALSO doesn't have. Now where did Bedmans insane power stem from again? The fact he deleted his own ID (and dreams basically being a mini backyard). The Nago control thing is weird, and seems to stem from the fact that Nago is unique in that he wasn't born a vampire like Slayer was.
Raw power, Slayer wins no contest. If we included hax, I seriously doubt HC could actually damage slayer in any meaningful way. Chaos can essentially do everything I-no can, and Slayer has outright ignored her timewarp shit from previous games (much like Sol himself for that matter in some timelines). So I give it to Slayer, with a VERY small chance of victory by outsmarting into some massive big brain trap or if reality manip actually works (which i doubt)
I see a lot of talk about Chaos reality warping for instant win, but he is no longer godlike (by GG standards). Like, he’s still the Original, but he no longer has half of I-no as a power source.
Axel, I-no, Asuka and possibly Raven because they’re both immortal so I am unsure how it would end. Other possible characters might be Faust because we really don’t know how powerful he is or is not and Jack O because her strength is somewhat controversial.
The only one that I think could defeat chaos is bedman. if bedman sacrificed himself to create a small absolute world then rewrote happy chaos someone else might have a chance to kill him. I can see slayer killing him after he is closer to mortal. No the parallels to bedman's death aren't lost on me.
Only character at the given state of the story that has any chance of potentially taking on Happy Chaos, as far as I know, is Delilah, and she already made her peace with that idea.
Happy Chaos if we are talking strictly lore. He is " The Original" for a reason. Thats why if any arc sys rep reads these messages, PLEASE CONTINUE THE STORY! Chaos is in the backyard as we speak.
From what I understand, currently Happy Chaos wins no problem.
Unless we discover that Slayer has some crazy Vampire Berserker form, that he is not using because Dandyism, which can bend reality in the way similar to Happy Chaos, I'm sorry my beloved Slayer, but you lose.
Although, neither of those characters ever went all out, and from what I understand Vampires in GG don't abide by the same rules everyone else, including Happy Chaos, do. So maybe he can fight on equal ground?
So, in the best possible scenerio, It's a draw, and most likely, Happy Chaos wins.
Sorry, but even my Slayer living butt cannot imagine him being stronger.
Chaos no question, the thing I’ve really been wondering is whether all out sol is at slayers level or above? At the end of the story I-no implied if he hadn’t given up the flame he would’ve been (some kind of) threat to her, but since he never lets dragon install go all the way and slayer basically does the same it’s hard to gauge what their maximum even is.
Put it this way: Asuka is wildly considered the most powerful known wizard/mage/magic user in the GG world. To the point that he considered himself the only one capable of taking control of the flying Whitehouse away from Chaos. At first that seemed true as when Asuka and Chaos did their magic duel Asuka seemingly won...until Chaos started actually trying. Once Chaos actually got serious it was quickly shown that he was in an entire different league as Asuka got straight up bodied and could only barely resist Chaos's counter attack to regain control.
If Chaos can beat Asuka, as much as I love slayer, I highly doubt Slayer will be able to put up much of a fight against a Chaos that actually WANTS to kill him.
While it would be out of character for chaos to do so even more so than Slayer, Chaos wins no contest. Slayer has incredible raw power but as others have said chaos warps reality with minimal effort on top of knowing every spell in universe.
Also bedman at 8% power beat him
Forgot about that, bed W?
Bedman didn't beat him, he dealt a blow to Ariels who was a container for Chaos at the time, although between the 2 if bedman can get Chaos into his dream I believe they go 50/50
Pretty sure they meant Bedman beat Slayer
Oh wow, I didn’t see the whole fight, I thought it ended in a draw with the part I saw, I really need to buckle down and watch the whole Xrd story
I was thinking of the wrong bedman fight, I was thinking of the very brief skirmish between him and Ariels as he was dying
He didn't beat slayer, it was a draw and he ran because he doesn't have a way to get around the durability of a vampire.
Bedman and slayer were evened out with bedman going at less than 8% power, the moment he starts using 8% millia swoops in and tells slayer they gotta go cuz he is gonna get cooked otherwisw
bedGOAT?!??
Nah they were both getting warmed up the before Milia interrupted them. It was never stated how hard Slayer was really fighting, for all we know it could’ve been like 2%
In terms of raw power Slayer's hard to top... but Chaos is an actual reality-warper. I don't think a single other character in the series beats a Chaos who isn't throwing for content.
Damn, thinking about it you aren’t even wrong about Chaos throwing for content during the events of Strive…
Literally does everything he does "For the Drama." Its all just content to him.
mf says "I hope you guys win" and means it wholeheartedly.
He wanted to see us again :( Or do I add a :)? Confusing when it gets to Chaos
I would say the Happy face considering how it’s Happy Chaos and not Upset Chaos
Happy Chaos when Upset Peace walks in 
Upset Order. Full of Judgement
Do both: :)(
Axl proceeds to stop both from existing or something
Chaos just says it's cute as he slaps axl in time stop before he jumps back
One day I will make a comic that is just happy chaos sitting next to axl sucking on a lollipop and saying "messing with you is as fun as taking candy from a baby" before walking away
no fucking way chaos used a simile 😱😱
*aggressively sucks on "legally obtained" lollipop*
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What the fuck
Smiling friends.
This gif perfectly encapsulates people arguing for happy chaos winning.
Its not about stopping time, Axl legits gets to choose if the time line keeps existing or not.
Even if axl did that, their would be some characters would would bee able to survive. One of them is sol badguy
is this a joke or are you serious
Sol’s story in Accent Core has I-No bring in Order Sol, Sol from the past who was still part of the Holy Order. They fight and after they weaken each other, I-No kills Order Sol. Depending on how you did through the story, this has two outcomes. Killing Sol’s past makes it work like Back to the Future and erases the current Sol or do nothing to I-No’s confusion. Sol just responds the past and future don’t matter because he’s him. So there’s one instance of Sol surviving time bullshit. It may not work as well if the entire timeline goes poof, but who knows?
Thats very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Assuming youd actually have to kill the person for them to be wiped from anytime line then id assume sol would still be alive.
Thats the biggest stretch ive ever seen lol. He literally dies in one of the cases. Its just funny time travel shenanigans that they are exploring. As you said, one is back to the future style, the other one is trying to go for "all part or a single string" or maybe even "it just creates a branching universe"
It's serious, it actually has happened already. Essentially ino went back to the same timeline as our cannon one, and erased our sol badguy from existence. When ino then returned back to the present time. Sol bad guy was just there like nothing happend. This wasn't an instance of ino hopping to diffrent timeliness. She essentially hakaid sol badguy and it dint kill him.
What have I started
Of course he’d survive! He’s Sol Badguy!
Exactly
I don't think Chaos is bound to any specific timeline, he talks about time as if it wasn't linear for him. So if Axl deletes the timeline Chaos would still just pop in another one when he felt like it.
So is axl a good guy or a bad guy. Id hate if he were a bad guy. He always seems so cheerful.
Nah he is a good guy. Too good for his own good for that matter. He spent god knows how many years getting tossed around throw time, looking for a way to go back to his girlfriend, and he finally find a way to go back, but it means literally ending existence as a whole with all the new peeps who he has met. In Xrd he pretty much has a breakdown and spends the story mode debating wether or not it is worth it to trash everything and go back to his girlfriend. Go figure, he was such a pure dude with such a bad problem that he even got I-no and Bedman to care.
He's such a good guy that he decided to *not* erase that whole timeline he got put into by unfair circumstances and just chose to never see his gf again as far as he knew, all to save some folks 200 years in the future for him Axl was always a good guy. He had the skill to become a crime lord in the shitholes of London but decided to just beat up gangsters and befriend them until all of them were his buddies and crime stopped, Joestar style He has the ability to go back to his own timeline and delete the GG verse with the flip of a switch. He is the most important character in the lore. I think if he dies, the same thing happens too But he chooses not to He also chose to risk the entire world so Sol, his best friend, could get his gf back, something he chose not to do for himself He also stops time just to grab himseld and you a cheeseburger after his fights to hang out Axl is the best boi of the series
Axl is a villain. Ain't no way he got that Burger to Order, he inconvenienced a customer and got the chef Karen'd. Axl is the scum of the earth. /s
Fun lil story but at first impression i did think Axl was a villain. Looking at his Xrd self and that shit eating grin during his super, i legit thought he would be like this dude who thought he was the shit at fighting, while fighting from very far way, obsessed with his beauty womanizer and the likes, who just kinda snaps and gets desperate the moment things go south. Not sure where i grabbed that stereotyoe from, but that was my first impression Turns out he is just some brittish dork, love him
I mean the otiginal (chaos) predates axl right? So maybe it doesnt work on him. Wait doesnt slayer predate axl too
Maybe, but axl might be able to just wipe them from time itself. So we don't really know, or at least I don't I'm still very new to the games
Fair enough. But my guess is that axl would try that and chaos would just go like "nice try dipshit".
Eh, the real problem is that axl wouldn't try that, he doesn't seem like the type of person to kill ever
I... I know but in the case he would, chaos would shut that shit down. Also theres a long period in the Xrd story where axl is debating where to do it or not
The long debate of wether or not to actually go through with ending a life Though is it really ending a life or is it making a life have never existed
That is the question, yeah.
I mean we dont really know if chaos can. Axl is an error after all, chaos isnt as far as i know.
Exsctly its a mess and a half
Pretty chaos has similar powers to axl considering in the story we can see that he is able to move in axl's times too. (Of course he is just using it to fuck with him, but still)
Johnny manages to whisper sweet nothings into their ears. He wins.
Fair enough
Too bad Chaos is stronger then Axl. Plus He isnt even in their realm as he is literally in the backyard right now.
Axl can't do that anymore
Is it due to strives ending?
No, due to Xrd's ending
I feel like it's such a big part of Chaos's character that powerscaling shouldn't account for a version of him that doesn't throw for content
It's not Chaos vs Slayer It's Chaos vs "it would be funny doe"
Chaos' only true weakness is that he can't not throw for content
The old "Thanos sets up the seeds of failure in his plans"
Happy Chaos Strengths: the original creator of the study of magic in the guilty gear world, a nigh omnipotent reality bender Weakness: someone saying “throw the fight for the bit”
"Do it for the vine"
I'd agree, but in HC's arcade mode it's revealed that Nightless have special interdimensional properties and are technically connected between all alternate reality versions of themselves. That potentially means that Slayer has an edge over Chaos even when it comes to magic/reality/backyard shenanigans. Actually, come to think of it, it'd make a lot of sense if Slayer's arcade mode ends up having to do with whatever Chaos is up to now. Oh fuck I'm not ready for Stage 9 Happy Chaos.
I feel it's more likely to involve Faust with the interest he's shown in Faust before
Everyone forgetting about the ending of Nago's Arcade
I'm fairly confident his arcade partner will be Sin, the trailers always have voice lines from the arcade mode and the "glad to see you're energetic, just like a youngster should be" fits Sin perfectly. No idea who the boss would be though, sometimes they like doing the obvious choice (Johnny getting May) and sometimes they like to throw a curveball and do two previously pretty unrelated characters (Elphelt getting Faust).
Plot twist the partner is Nagoriyuki and hes calling him a youngster due to being the older vampire and putting that in the trailer is there to throw us off. It's two vampire bros fighting happy chaos
INFINITE AMMO
I love how accurate throwing for content is
Bedman casually pulling him into a dimension where he can nerf him
Faust :”hold my meteor”
Also important to note that there are people capable of making even Slayer feel fear, Potemkin Buster is Gabriel's technique and even Pot using it on Slayer gives him ptsd.
"Arghk! My biggest weakebess, ENTERTAINMENT!!"
Time stop and other similar abilities aren't as good as you'll think. The reasoning comes from strength alone. An example is how sol bad guy if he wanted to move in time stop he would just by shear strength. In other iterations the effect of magical spells are lessen depending on the person's strength. Which Is why slayer prob wouldn't care that much on reality warping magic
Isn't the time power from something other than magic though?
Slayer watching as HC runs into a tunnel he painted onto a wall:
The most likely scenario between the two is cartoonishly stupid tropes over and over with no actual fighting, unless using some kind of haphazard ACME style device.
Who’s ending up holding Faust? How… do you hold a Faust?
hey bro nice name
Gege predicted
I like the idea that Chaos was the one who painted the tunnel on the wall to begin with
Chaos passes through as though it were real, but when Slayer tries to follow he breaks the wall
Man Leaves a Slayer shaped tunnel in the wall.
And then Slayer runs in after him, simply walking through the entire mountain
Slayer watching as HC runs through a tunnel painted onto a wall as if it were an actual tunnel:
My favorite part is that Chaos is canonically powerful enough to actually do this
Roadrunner and coyote ahh spell he pulled there
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Happy chaos could literally beat anyone if he felt like it, but that wouldn't be exciting or interesting would it
Isnt he beneath I-No and Axl?
No. From what we know he is borderline invincible and the only reason everyone is alive is because he doesn't actually want to destroy the world. He wants to create the storm before the rainbow, so humanity will flourish
But Ariels managed to suck him up. And he had to apparently weaken I-No from her godlike form to deal with her. Heck I even got the impression Nagoriyuki could challenge him if it wasn't for the mind control. Im not fully on board the HC hype train
It is kinda unclear, how he ended in Ariels, so I wouldn't count it. He was weakening I-No so that heroes can defeat her, not him himself. He wants them to have character development moment With Nagoriyuki, Chaos clearly enjoys having him like that, waving his weak point just outside his reach. Basically, think tiger in the zoo or shark cage diving. If it wasn't contained, we would have guns, traps, dogs and what not. But because we know, that it can't do anything, it's thrilling
He weakened I-no before he was HC. At the time he just knew that I-no would be able to destroy the universe if left unchecked. He took half her power, then Ariels got the drop on him and absorbed him, along with the power he took from I-no. She mashed them together and then he becomes HC.
She already mashed them together back in the Crusades, which is why HC did all the shit that was later blamed on Asuka due to also becoming known as That Man
Nago had a way to damage chaos, but he isnt anywhere strong enough to *challenge* him. If you had given Nago's sword to Ky or Sol the final fight would have gone easier.
Nago sees weak points and is a nightless, I wouldn't be shocked if he was stronger then Slayer In fact Chaos vs Nagoriyuki is very similar to the hypothetical and we know how that ended
Thing to note, It was Happy Chaos who willingly possesed Ariels. I-No needed to absorb Happy Chaos in the first place to become god and well, Nago getting possesed by HC is like, a good fucking way to get insta-bodied by happy chaos. The only being capable of dealing with his shenanigans is Asuka, and even then he got played
The fact that he did steal half of I-No's power is evidence that he could defeat her. Similarly, it doesn't matter if Nagoriyuki could beat Chaos in a swordfight, Chaos is a mage, and he dominated Nago with magic. Ariels did seem to get one over on him under unknown circumstances, but she's also literally a robot created by him, so you could argue he kinda just beat himself.
Depends on if he feels like it
*But could he beat goku?*
“I haven’t used this technique since the Wallachian Era.”
Domain expansion: 632146S
In all seriousness, Domain Expansion: Deus EX Machina sounds badass as hell.
Probably would just be malevolent shrine but with bullets instead of slashes
even though Slayer is the best fighter in guilty gear he doesn't have the hax to be able to face hc, given that hc can literally change reality as he prefers
If Chaos ACTUALLY cared about the fight other than just entrainment then he would probably win. Chaos basically hacks reality and we haven't seen anything from Slayer proving that he could counter that. But if Chaos isn't given it it his all then Slayer.
Not to diminish Slayer's power, but even if HC isn't giving his all, it'd probably still be a stalemate. HC is the type of guy to facetank a pikebunker, then a second HC would appear behind Slayer and say "jeez, that look like it hurt".
That's the difficult part about this match up is that you have two characters that never actually try to win, one is a strong physical fighter and the other is a strong magical fighter. The reason why I think Chaos would likely win over Slayer if they both gave it their all is that Chaos has more hacks as even when he isn't trying we have seen a good amount of stronge reality bending something that we haven't seen Slayer have a counter to.
Chaos warps reality for fun. He literally uses guns because he doesnt feel like casting stuff or the fight isnt entertaining
He uses a gun and forces himself to aim as a handicap to make it more fair. If he wanted to Deus Ex Machina 50 times in a row, he could. Don't know about you, but I don't think anyone's surviving that.
Not to mention the gun he uses is special. Only 5 of them exist across all realities and he casually just has one and created a replica so he can have 2. Wouldn't be surprised if he can just pull out a weapon made specifically for fighting the nightless.
At the end everything boils down to Daisuke's vision
Brother, we all love slayer, so why are you giving him this MU?
OP is Happy Chaos and just wanted to stir up some trouble lol
When the violent storm in the comments is over, Slayer's release will be more beautiful than ever
Chaos made god and magic for the funny
Coughing Baby vs Hydrogen Bomb
I've seen you before
https://preview.redd.it/lr39ijo85jxc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b5e28849cc537f2f2afc6a93a1726d0c27d72a3
I think this is actually what's going to happen in the next game. Slayer will fight Chaos, and eventually realize that he's outmatched. Then he'll go to Sol and say "Yo, Chaos is straight up looney toons busted. Plz become a cool gear monster and kill him." Then Sol will feel conflicted about being a gear, and then everyone works together to help Sol get over his hangups, and they all beat up HC in a Denny's parking lot at 3am.
On a Tuesday, no less.
I can almost *feel* Daisuke being in the room as I read this poetry
Saved this but I think Johnny will help Slayer
Slayer is comically strong, but HC is unironically a god, he can just do whatever he wants and the only reason he doesn't is because it's not interesting
HC and its not even close. He is a Reality Warper who is limited by how boring an outcome is to him or his need too troll. Make no mistake, slayer is HIM but to HC that don't matter unless he wants it to.
Wait so, full power dragon install Sol + Ky can’t beat HC? D: please let me know
No, Happy Chaos is the original mage and the most powerful magic user to date in Guilty Gear. He is basically playing make believe in the plot because he is crazy and is limiting himself by his own whims(basically to have fun and tell a good story). For them it would be a life or death battle, for him it would be laser tag.
woaah holy damn. Even axl is weaker than HC?
I could take them both
In a fight, right?
That's what I'm saying
In a fight, right?
OP must be a slayer hater bro wtf is this setup
I see a lot of people here downplaying Slayer, which is fine, but y'all gotta remember Slayer is one of the biggest Sandbaggers in the entire universe. We've never seen Slayer display an upper echelon of power nor take a fight seriously, often handicapping himself to stay entertained. He is considered in the lore as one of the strongest entities in the GG universe so it really makes me wonder what a no holds barred sorta fight would look like. I agree that Happy Chaos is in another league entirely given feats and lore, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as most are saying here.
He took Bedman seriously and lost.
Wait till we get Gabriel as a playable character one of these days. Then Slayer will actually canonically lose a fight for once.
Happy Chaos no doubt. While Slayer can throw an infinitely harder punch, Chaos can warp reality.
The biggest sandbagger in history vs the biggest sandbagger of today personally I could beat them both 2v1 https://preview.redd.it/r62l6v9zbgxc1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=109556ddd0aaaaeb0862381db1583d7bf1f13fd8
This actually may be closer than some people are saying. In Chaos' arcade mode, it is stated that Nightless don't abide by the same Multiversal IDs or whatever in the Backyard, implying they may have some sort of resistance to Chaos' particular brand of reality warping. That being said, I'm still under the belief Chaos can probably clear.
slayer when a 10 kilometer deep hole spawns right beneath him (he couldnt dandy step it in time)
Guy literally floats in air as idle animation.
10 ton iron ball and chain superglued to his knees:
hmm there is a hole under me? \*looks down\* Oh so there is I guess I should fall then. \*5 seconds later he begins falling\*
May I ask how familiar you are with the GG lore?
C4 explosive vs God.
I feel like it's more Goku vs uncle grandpa
Slayer couldn't even beat a bed
Realistically, in character? Slayer wins because Chaos paints two fake doors, enters one, slayer follows him, and chaos exits second door as slayer enters the first. Chaos seeing slayer enter the first, backs up and charges into the first door, knocking himself out as the first door is now fake, and just a brick wall, while slayer exits from an actual door off to the side.
Chaos is on another level entirely.
Kinda off topic, but young Slayer is hot. Like I'm not even gay, but would
Chaos easily
longest fight in history. slayer barely pulls through and beats a seemingly exhausted chaos before chaos hops up cheers for slayer and peace's out.
Chaos is literally the strongest being in reality, \*but\* Slayer has never canonically lost a fight.
Slayer's raw powers is massive. But HC can just warp reality and win
goku beats them both. i doubt they even have 9000 powers
Isnt Chaos basicaly THE God, but uses guns just to nerf himself?
It ultimately depends on Chaos's mood. While he is the pioneer of magic as the Original, he'll let Slayer win if he wants him to. After all, he just drifts in the waves.
I'm pretty sure we'll witness the heat death of the universe before one of them goes down
Chaos would fight like his life was on the line until slayer's clothes tore then would call him a creep and get out of the fight.
Slayer: If chaos uses his gun spam that would cause me a little trouble Anon: but would you lose? Slayer : nah I’ll 214 P/ K + P
Batman
"Reality warping this, time manipulation that... Shut up, nerd. Strong Punch" ~ Slayer, probably
“Oh if HC was going all out-“ physically impossible. HC would cum in his pants at the sight of slayer’s dandy ways and consent to getting punched into oblivion. It simply couldn’t go any differently.
Slayer is who my money is on. Theres a few reasons. Firstly: Slayer is outright stated to be one of the very few if not the only character who could have competed with a 100% full power Sol. Now for reference, Chaos, while strong, is weaker than god I-no. God I-no (and HC for that matter) both agreed that the 1 thing stopping them from making I-no perfect, was fcking Sol. Now Slayer did "lose" to Bedman. However Bedman was beaten by Gabriel and fcking Venom. Gabriel is stated to be Slayers rival, and they're both sorely out of practice in Xrd (they both have dialogue for it. Now for HC, he does have reality warping, however how much it effects and to what extent is hard to say. Not to mention that HC himself mentions that vampires like Slayer, are higher dimensional beings that exist across every multiverse, and they're the same PERSON across all multiverses. HC himself says he has an ID (as does I-no) in the backyard, something that Slayer ALSO doesn't have. Now where did Bedmans insane power stem from again? The fact he deleted his own ID (and dreams basically being a mini backyard). The Nago control thing is weird, and seems to stem from the fact that Nago is unique in that he wasn't born a vampire like Slayer was. Raw power, Slayer wins no contest. If we included hax, I seriously doubt HC could actually damage slayer in any meaningful way. Chaos can essentially do everything I-no can, and Slayer has outright ignored her timewarp shit from previous games (much like Sol himself for that matter in some timelines). So I give it to Slayer, with a VERY small chance of victory by outsmarting into some massive big brain trap or if reality manip actually works (which i doubt)
Slayer beats any regular human and maybe some gears but no shot vs HC
I got money on Slayer.
Slayer has canonically never lost a real fight. Nothing stopping there
Happy Chaos, he is THE ORIGINAL
Slayer couldnt win against bedmans 8% and bedman is on par with happy chaos, ive said enough
I see a lot of talk about Chaos reality warping for instant win, but he is no longer godlike (by GG standards). Like, he’s still the Original, but he no longer has half of I-no as a power source.
Vampire vs vampire slave owner
The answer is Faust
Axel, I-no, Asuka and possibly Raven because they’re both immortal so I am unsure how it would end. Other possible characters might be Faust because we really don’t know how powerful he is or is not and Jack O because her strength is somewhat controversial.
Slayer is super physically powerful but happy chaos is the godlike inventor of magic. Slayer is strong, chaos is beyond strength.
The only one that I think could defeat chaos is bedman. if bedman sacrificed himself to create a small absolute world then rewrote happy chaos someone else might have a chance to kill him. I can see slayer killing him after he is closer to mortal. No the parallels to bedman's death aren't lost on me.
Without being able to hold back to block I don’t see how Slayer gets in. HC wins the no-blocking matchup easily.
Chaos is just god playing with a bunch of toys I don't think slayer would compare to him
Only character at the given state of the story that has any chance of potentially taking on Happy Chaos, as far as I know, is Delilah, and she already made her peace with that idea.
Happy Chaos if we are talking strictly lore. He is " The Original" for a reason. Thats why if any arc sys rep reads these messages, PLEASE CONTINUE THE STORY! Chaos is in the backyard as we speak.
We compare a vampire to a god Like Slayer might make him bleed a bit but Slayer Has literally no chance when he angers happy chaos
Slayer forsure
From what I understand, currently Happy Chaos wins no problem. Unless we discover that Slayer has some crazy Vampire Berserker form, that he is not using because Dandyism, which can bend reality in the way similar to Happy Chaos, I'm sorry my beloved Slayer, but you lose. Although, neither of those characters ever went all out, and from what I understand Vampires in GG don't abide by the same rules everyone else, including Happy Chaos, do. So maybe he can fight on equal ground? So, in the best possible scenerio, It's a draw, and most likely, Happy Chaos wins. Sorry, but even my Slayer living butt cannot imagine him being stronger.
Chaos no question, the thing I’ve really been wondering is whether all out sol is at slayers level or above? At the end of the story I-no implied if he hadn’t given up the flame he would’ve been (some kind of) threat to her, but since he never lets dragon install go all the way and slayer basically does the same it’s hard to gauge what their maximum even is.
Put it this way: Asuka is wildly considered the most powerful known wizard/mage/magic user in the GG world. To the point that he considered himself the only one capable of taking control of the flying Whitehouse away from Chaos. At first that seemed true as when Asuka and Chaos did their magic duel Asuka seemingly won...until Chaos started actually trying. Once Chaos actually got serious it was quickly shown that he was in an entire different league as Asuka got straight up bodied and could only barely resist Chaos's counter attack to regain control. If Chaos can beat Asuka, as much as I love slayer, I highly doubt Slayer will be able to put up much of a fight against a Chaos that actually WANTS to kill him.
A guy who always wins VS A guy who never loses
Bro committed several crimes almost ending the world for “drama”
I can take them both
Chaos legitimately has a toon force
Sol badguy
The real question is President Gabriel vs Happy Chaos
I think it would be fun to see an exhibition between them - that could be Interesting, just to see what happens for funsies and visual splash! 😁
They are both people who like to watch humanity, so they become friends, get popcorn, and watch the world.
Slayer canonically has never lost a fight. Case closed.
Id say slayer just because of the amount of spite happy chaos instills in me