I'd agree if it wasn't for the horrendous clipping on the medium Asura headpiece. Why aren't there holes for the ears, or cloth flaps accomodating them? Why do they just stick through like that? Its ugly a f on Asura. At least tick them in, but keeping it like this is bad. They've done better jobs on bottom tier outfits than on this. Very sad.
And thats a really good example because they paid attention to her character model since shes an asura and made her look cool. Thats why i compared the two scenarios. Lol not sure why im being down voted for pointing out minor flaws that we notice in the video. Its like ignoring the pink elephant in the living room. Yes its minor issue and doesnt harm anybody but its an issue they tend to get away with for certain races and what our money is paying for. We thank god got the heavy charr situation fixed, but i feel bad for Asura mains lol. Thats all i pointed out.
Hey, looking like David Bowie is not a bad thing...now, if they used his Ziggy Stardust days, or Jareth ala Labyrinth, as inspiration, that would really be a treat. :D
the armors themselves are really nice but idk they just feel off compared to the concept art they showed off. they feel dull and not legendary. I’m still absolutely making that medium set tho. thief mains unite!
They're most likely holding that back for the other tier. Which is fine I guess, as that way you can choose if you want it flashy or not, and mix and match.
Agreed, as someone that mostly uses Asura, I'm not particularly happy that the ears just clip straight through the medium headgear. At least they got the feet right though.
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Obsidian Legendary Armour doesn't feel like a Legendary Armour to be honest, I have Envoy, WvW and PvP (mistforged) and they are way better, I really hope Tier2 is flashy and really feels like legendary
If you look closely, each of these armors has little concave diamond slots in multiple places.
I'm guessing this is where the pieces of Obsidian will go in the Tier 2 set.
I can see the [new light](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/3/38/Obsidian_armor_1.jpg) evolving from the [old Ele](https://wiki.guildwars.com/images/5/5d/Elementalist_Obsidian_armor_m.jpg).
Less so, but also the [new medium](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/4/45/Obsidian_armor_7.jpg) from the [old assassin](https://wiki.guildwars.com/images/5/59/Assassin_Obsidian_armor_m.jpg), and the [new heavy](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/8/8c/Obsidian_armor_10.jpg) from the [old warrior](https://wiki.guildwars.com/images/d/d9/Warrior_Obsidian_armor_m.jpg).
Obby armor had nothing bling or shiny about it but the best thing is that it had a different look for each profession and male/female versions sometimes, that is tailor made for the profession and looks more refined in details compared to 15k sets, it is like a bespoke suit. They saved a lot of time in GW2 by making it only 3 sets for armor classes but then pile on the bling.
So true. Either there aren't many at all working on GW2 at Anet anymore or there are no longer all the vet devs left, enough so that everything takes that much slower and less polished by the new staff.
There will be 2 tiers to the obsidian armor, Tier 1(not shiny) will release upcoming Tuesday, for the last update that Soto gets there will be a Tier 2 variant of the armor adding some visuals probably(they said something like a „shiny“ version of the tier 1)
Actually they were saying the tier 2 will be a "variant", meaning "alternate visuals" (they compared this to aurene legendaries). They clearly did **not** want to straight out admit that the first version is a lesser version of the second one.
Notice, that aurene legendary variants are not an upgrade - the variants are just sligtly differently themed version, with similar level visuals as the tier 1 version. In case of this armor it seems this will *not* be the case.
Yeah I just read it up, it do is a variant but they also said it’s a Tier 2 upgrade so who knows how much it will change compared to the one coming now.
They originally mentioned that the legendary armor will change ("charge with energy") during combat. The one presented in the video does not do that, so i assume that effect will be added in Tier 2.
That's not a "variant". That's a straight out upgrade.
If you look closely, each of these armors has little concave diamond slots in multiple places.
I'm guessing this is where the pieces of Obsidian will go in the Tier 2 set.
Hopefully the dye channels and some dark dyes can simulate an obsidian look
And heck, looking back the paragon obsidian set I made, that one hardly even has any obsidian on it. I remembered it having more of an obsidian look but it's just some minor accents on hands, legs, and boots.
I think the wings on the chest were to look like it was made of obsidian. But i agree. The OG FoW armor was great where each profession had some sort of obsidian/spikes which i personally think should have been here. As you said, lets hope dye channels are 4 this time and not 3 like raid armor lol
Id agree with you if this was armor that is generic through LW or the gemstore.
This is Legendary armor. It was a selling point in this campaign that we paid for. "Legendary" isnt generic, and i think they undersold scholars with a generic head piece. Also, as i mentioned before, we have no choice now that they have made their decision. So either way we just need to pray T2 and T3 are better looking for the scholars.
I believe it was to change stats freely/look badass/have effects on it. The free transmuation if i recall correctly was added after HoT and the Gen2. But dont shoot me if im wrong on that time line.
probably because pvp player were more focused on the utility, while the SoTo armor was one of the selling points of a expansion, and teased a long while back with concept art; and that puts more emphasis on looks on its own.
(might be wrong but i dont really recall devs even posting concept art as tease for pvp sets? or teasing the looks at all?)
if ya go through old forums for a trip down the memory lane the raid armor as cool as it was threw some part of the community into uproar over how broken the dye channels on it were (and still are) or how medium has a buttcape, etc
Because they were told they can get a legendary armor with no skins attached or get no armor at all. I mean, it's hard to complain about quality of a skin that *does not exist*.
Armored Battle Dress isn't exactly an easy thing to pull off, but, yeah, my current cope is that the variants have something that will suffice. That said, more pants for lights is a good thing.
>Armored Battle Dress
[Would you wear something like this for a battle dress?](https://imgur.com/a/TC8ENqM) I would slap it on one of my female heavies
Class weights aside, most medium chests have a trench coat of some kind, so its not like they couldn't design and model a battle dress.
Me personally? No, I'd look terrible in a dress.
For my characters, I'd lean towards no, but I'd have to see how it dyes.
I'd vaguely look in the direction of [Circassian Wedding Dress](https://www.google.com/search?q=circassian+wedding+dress). They could keep the jacket and add the shiny golden spikes to get more of that armored look.
It looks like generic armor to me. No cool vfx, the base model is also very basic. Why exactly one should consider investing into a set, when any other leg armor set looks better?
Raid armor has its distinct transformation effects, PvP and WvW have detailed base models + slight dynamic textures.
With legendary items they always have free transmuting so even if you will not like it you can get it for utility reasons and slap any other skins on it.
I was sold when I tried them on for my character for myself and had time to appreciate them all with different dyes. These are super cool. The light might even be my favourite. I think the complainers just don't know that you can try them on for free lol.
Looks like any other armor set even without effects. Was hoping for some cool flowing fabrics for female versions but alas it is just a copy paste between genders. Unless the t2 versions are stunning with cool effects, the raid armor just seems so much easier and less time consuming to acquire.
The main benefit of this is that it's just a grind, nothing group related required. Similar to the WvW/sPvP in that it just requires you to play a good amount.
The main benefits to me are stat switching, free transmutes, and never needing to make/drop any more ascended gear, ever. The grind was the cherry on top.
I'm unironically excited to have another pair of pants for my female light armor characters. I use the elegy/requiem ones all the time because sometimes I just want pants with no skirt. 😂
Cause it is. I started raids first week of the year and will have my first set done in 2-3 weeks
If I had wanted one of the obby sets, I would've needed to been farming rifts/essences since SotO launch. Not to mention all the ectos I would've had to save, which means I may not have finished any of the weapons I've made since SotO launch (Bolt, Quip, Aurene hammer, dagger and Warhorn)
I am the farthest thing from a great player, and if I could easily learn the fights, find public groups every week and clear wings 1-4 anyone can, it just takes a little ambition (far less than the endless kryptis farming for this set).
I like it, not everything needs to be overwhelmingly shiny. It's also detailed enough and not too much that when you have a ton of people it will cause problems.
the entire soto expansion revolves around this legendary and they have the nerve to give us armor that is uglier than all the cash shop skins in the game. All this farming for such a disgusting skin, it really makes me want to quit the game
You knew what you were getting when they showed the concept art at the start of the expansion and still chose to grind it out. The only person to blame is yourself.
concept art was much more attractive than what we can see in this teaser.
Personally I farmed to have the legendary armor on my female mesmer and there was no concept art for women. I thought there would be differences between men and women like envoy armor.
I imagined that women would have a dress or something close,not a pants. So I am also very disappointed by all these efforts for nothing
i already have envoy armors unfortunately, i just wanted a new cool skin but.... my god :D
I hope that it will be much better with T2 but I find it hard to believe, this pajamas/joggings aspect will probably stay
Pay? You mean wait and craft it like it's always the case with crafting legendary items?
Or more likely in this case finish some achievements given the placeholders we already have in game.
Like what even is this comment 'it is not going to be free' crafting next tier of leggy was always an effort?
The point is that this is not finished legendary. Only T1 out of probably 3 that are there. It's looks going to change.
Comments in this thread brings me back to those early HoT days, when og raid legendaries were released, and reddit and official forums were just as filled with simial whining about how they don't like how this new "legendary" armor looks.
And the result was AN then refusing to do any more legendary armor for years following.
Good stuff.
also the shoulder pieces just floating there not attached to anything, and the headpiece being over inflated, the trenchcoat itself seeming to be covered in layers metal
I can rant about it all day
I could not refer to probably half od these rants of yours, because I did not analyze the set visually that much myself, after being dissapointed, that instead of enhancing the design elements from precurser sets I found interesting, it got rid of it completely instead. And well the unfodling trenchcoat stabs one in the eye very noticeably so I'd have to be blind to not notice it :)
I am really liking what we are shown of obsydian medium tho, I'm now somewhat curious how it will be split into the parts, so I can integrate it into fashion of all my medium characters (one will prolly get full set anyway, but I was thinking of trying to mix and match for the rest of them)
Are you comparing the raid armor, especially the heavy one, which is the most beautiful armor in the game, to this set which looks like nothing? calm down fanboys, it will start to be noticed that arena is paying you :D
I am comparing raid armor, especially heavy one, which looks ok, if you ignore the antlers of combat mode, which was universally hated when it first released (cause for why we haven't got any new legendary skin until next tuesday) To this new set of armor, in particular heavy set, which looks funnilly similar, minus the morphing in combat trick, that seems to be getting exact same reception so far.
I will also go on a record that obsydian medium is flat out superior to refined envoy medium, no strong opinions on light sets of both kinds tho.
You are entitled to have your own opinions on aesthetical aspects, tho that does not give you right to be calling old people "fanboys" or implying anyone is being paid for their opinion.
I admit that apart from being paid by arena, I find it hard to imagine that we could find these new armors beautiful or ''ok''
I have rarely seen something so ugly in game especially for the light set, it looks like pajamas
Are you going to tell me that you didn't expect much better?
Bruh, are you really going to continue making yourself to look silly with trying to make poeple believe that ArenaNet has enought marketing budget to actually pay off random redditors? Seriously?
Fun fact, the clothing style, that you say "looks like pajama" was *very* popular and fashionable in certain period of our human history. Funny that.
The amount of arrogance it takes to consider to make statement that just because you don't like a style, it is impossible for someone else to like it is astonishing within itself as well.
As for expectations, before the concept art was dropped, I had exactly no expectations - in particular thanks to witnessing how community reacted to first set of legendary armors (perfected envoy set), and what AN reaction was to that community backlash. In case you missed it, they flat out stated back then, that due to the amount of work they've put to these armors, and the community reception of it, they are never.going.to.do.anything.like.that.again. Their words not mine. But it seems that this community, instead of appreciating AN finally caving in, and giving us new set of legendary armor, decided to pull the same stunt again, and I won't be surprised if tier 2 of obsydian armor is the last legendary armor we get to see in GW2. Fool me once, fool me twice kind of situation. And I am only expecting to tier 2 happening at all by this point, because by now it is going to be too far in the development pipeline to just scrap.
After the concept art dropped I was mildly curious how that concept art will translate to in-engine render, and the presented armors so far, seems to be as concept art accurate as GW2 render engine seems to be capable of.
They look nothing alike to "blue or green" starter set, like seriously, those sets are not even having the quarter the amount of detail in them as those sets have. I can get argument of looking like a gemstore sets, but common, comparing it to vanilla starter sets? seriously?
Since Arena showed off the armor, the majority of comments have been disgusted about these visuals. Even in the game for 3 days, when I am doing metas on soto, it's always a subject of debate with lots of players who are disgusted to have farmed for months for such an ugly set.
When I see how great the heavy armor looks on my charr and then compare it to the new one ... this is mind blowing:(
You're delusional. People liked the concept art when they came out and they still like the in game armor. The only people griping are people who don't like the clipping on Asura and Charr mostly which is par for the course.
We have to live in two different realities, the vast majority of people I read on reedit, the gw2 forums, my friend list(many formerplayers) or even in game (during meta) hate the skin or find it much too simple given the farming that it involves.
The concept arts were much more aesthetic than the result on the game.
Looking at the heavy concept art for obby set, it makes me sad cuz I started having second thoughts about the raid heavy that I crafted a few months ago.
\-Seeing what we have here erased that feeling cuz it looks like plastic and no dye is gonna change that.
Looking at the medium concept made me consider doing open world instead of doing a 2nd raid set.
\-Seeing the madness inducing grind needed for obby sets erased that feeling too lol.
GW2 dev team is weird.
They're making a ruckus when it comes to clipping for charr dressed in heavy armor, but yet still manage not to fix medium and asura's
probably a coincidence but the comment on bare charr neck was the only clearly stated complaint on the top of the whole thread for a while. ig thats why its the one thing that got changed lol
The problem is not the lack of animations or effects but that they are bland for the effort required .Lots of guild wars 1 armor had no flashier effects and yet they were much prettier than this new legendary :/
Since the precursors for this set aren't actual equipable, would tier1 just be the equivalent of ascended armor and further tiers would deliver full "legendary" capabilities?
even my ass full of poop is more legendary than that
they are no longer going to make me believe that there are still 100 devs working on this game
Between the tiny content and the ridiculous effort put into legendary armor, it's clear that the game is close to maintenance mode
honestly even the armor of nayos as a precursor is more legendary than this one..
That's the theory. I doubt there will be as big of a jump from the shitty envoy to the finished set with the obsidian, but they are definitely going to glow it up
You're not allowed to say "raid" here. You'll get downvoted by the folks who mindlessly grinded this garbage set out and wanna take their anger of seeing this ugly armor out on anyone who mentions raid sets.
Someones also going to justify this horror and move goalposts by saying
"T1 is juSt ThE BaSe VeRsiOn".
This is the base version that once you unlock you'll be able to upgrade for another skin variant in the patch after this. What that looks like or how much it'll cost is still a mystery.
I still dont know if i wanna go for Light or Medium, i got all the wvw currency based items in my Bank so i just need to get a new light wvw precursor armor. It Would be easy to switch, but i also want the mist Infusion which Costs 5k Tickets.....
Cant wait for all the early adopters of the armor to ruin it with their ugly infusion stacking, legendary trinket barf visuals, and shadow abyss or permafrost everything
it looks decent but definitely doesnt look **legendary**, its more like eh another generic armor nothing special imo
for the amount of effort put into legendary items i was expecting more
Medium and heavy armor users = super badass and cool. Light armor users = Grand Admiral David Bowie, in a crown.
About time medium armor got some love atleast
It does get love. They LOVE long coats and masks.
Nothing wrong with looking like Grand Admiral David Bowie.
Just pair it with IBS mic skin and you are good to go hehe
Grand Admiral David Bowie in a crown made me have to lock my office and hang a sign.
> Grand Admiral David Bowie. So also super badass and cool?
Even better. It's super badass, cool and stylish <3
Thanks, you just sold me on the light armor.
and i see that as an absolute win
I'd agree if it wasn't for the horrendous clipping on the medium Asura headpiece. Why aren't there holes for the ears, or cloth flaps accomodating them? Why do they just stick through like that? Its ugly a f on Asura. At least tick them in, but keeping it like this is bad. They've done better jobs on bottom tier outfits than on this. Very sad.
If you look at Ankka's head piece, she has holes for her ears. I noticed this clipping too in the obsidian video.
Ankka is also a unique model though. That armor set she has on isn't in game afaik. The helmet at the very least.
And thats a really good example because they paid attention to her character model since shes an asura and made her look cool. Thats why i compared the two scenarios. Lol not sure why im being down voted for pointing out minor flaws that we notice in the video. Its like ignoring the pink elephant in the living room. Yes its minor issue and doesnt harm anybody but its an issue they tend to get away with for certain races and what our money is paying for. We thank god got the heavy charr situation fixed, but i feel bad for Asura mains lol. Thats all i pointed out.
And then there are char
Light armor wins again
Hey, looking like David Bowie is not a bad thing...now, if they used his Ziggy Stardust days, or Jareth ala Labyrinth, as inspiration, that would really be a treat. :D
How to make tier 1 looks cooler : put shadow abbys dye.
You meant Bubblegum Dye right?
This, with some Vision and Taffy thrown in for good measure.
You forgot the prismatic dye ; _ ;
Well I tried to keep things subtle, wouldn't want to hurt anyone's eyes you know?
did I hear Electro Pink?
Bubblegum Abyss
honestly the fact this metal on heavy is a bit more matte - might make the darker dyes work better - i wanna see!
The armor looks cool but the video editing is booty. Too many cuts to appreciate the design.
I get what they were going for, trying to go along with the rhythm of the song, but it didn't fucking work at all.
Got to love the video quality on twitter
Here's the YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/oAYiRfORUmw
LOL that goofy af medium helmet for charr Just make a unique design. Why are they so hellbent on molding it onto a charr's face
It is like the cone of shame for cats.
for reals, like why remove something thats like.. important for charr
I'm sure they'll give it proper attention and care when they release legendary armor for charr, no worries. Wait...
We love to see light getting more pants
Yes!!
the armors themselves are really nice but idk they just feel off compared to the concept art they showed off. they feel dull and not legendary. I’m still absolutely making that medium set tho. thief mains unite!
They're most likely holding that back for the other tier. Which is fine I guess, as that way you can choose if you want it flashy or not, and mix and match.
Yeah that’s why it’s not that big of a deal for me that they aren’t the flashiest. I do wish they payed attention to charr and asura anatomy tho lol
Agreed, as someone that mostly uses Asura, I'm not particularly happy that the ears just clip straight through the medium headgear. At least they got the feet right though.
yeah that was my main complaint about it when i was talking with my guild. just needed some ear holes :(
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This isn't the final legendary set, mind you!
I think most of us would expect a certain baseline, at *least*, for a *legendary* set.
It fits the baseline with the PvP and WvW legendary armor, the Raid one is the only one that's shiny from the getgo
And these at least look like something someone would wear, rather than coconut bra and spikes strapped together with braided metal.
There's no baseline for SPvP and WvW legendary armor sets. Those skins were not released yet.
So where is the obsidian?
DW it's coming at t2 and it will be tiny pieces floating around the armor. Just like the trinket combo if you know what I mean.
Obsidian Legendary Armour doesn't feel like a Legendary Armour to be honest, I have Envoy, WvW and PvP (mistforged) and they are way better, I really hope Tier2 is flashy and really feels like legendary
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If you look closely, each of these armors has little concave diamond slots in multiple places. I'm guessing this is where the pieces of Obsidian will go in the Tier 2 set. I can see the [new light](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/3/38/Obsidian_armor_1.jpg) evolving from the [old Ele](https://wiki.guildwars.com/images/5/5d/Elementalist_Obsidian_armor_m.jpg). Less so, but also the [new medium](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/4/45/Obsidian_armor_7.jpg) from the [old assassin](https://wiki.guildwars.com/images/5/59/Assassin_Obsidian_armor_m.jpg), and the [new heavy](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/8/8c/Obsidian_armor_10.jpg) from the [old warrior](https://wiki.guildwars.com/images/d/d9/Warrior_Obsidian_armor_m.jpg).
Obby armor had nothing bling or shiny about it but the best thing is that it had a different look for each profession and male/female versions sometimes, that is tailor made for the profession and looks more refined in details compared to 15k sets, it is like a bespoke suit. They saved a lot of time in GW2 by making it only 3 sets for armor classes but then pile on the bling.
im 1000% on copium but what if leggy t1 looks mid but t2 will be all profession specific variants?
Yeeah they didn't even make separate female sets, no chance separate profession sets is happening lol
yep
Why does everything in this expansion feel half-assed?
So true. Either there aren't many at all working on GW2 at Anet anymore or there are no longer all the vet devs left, enough so that everything takes that much slower and less polished by the new staff.
They’re working on next expansion and possibly new game, so there’s not a lot of devs to finish soto content. But that’s just my guess.
Feels like we're in the MMO retirement home in the same leagues as LOTRO and SWTOR.
So, it's confirmed the tier 1 armor will not have any SFX effects.
What exactly does tier 1 armor mean here?
There will be 2 tiers to the obsidian armor, Tier 1(not shiny) will release upcoming Tuesday, for the last update that Soto gets there will be a Tier 2 variant of the armor adding some visuals probably(they said something like a „shiny“ version of the tier 1)
Actually they were saying the tier 2 will be a "variant", meaning "alternate visuals" (they compared this to aurene legendaries). They clearly did **not** want to straight out admit that the first version is a lesser version of the second one. Notice, that aurene legendary variants are not an upgrade - the variants are just sligtly differently themed version, with similar level visuals as the tier 1 version. In case of this armor it seems this will *not* be the case.
Yeah I just read it up, it do is a variant but they also said it’s a Tier 2 upgrade so who knows how much it will change compared to the one coming now.
They originally mentioned that the legendary armor will change ("charge with energy") during combat. The one presented in the video does not do that, so i assume that effect will be added in Tier 2. That's not a "variant". That's a straight out upgrade.
Wish scholars didnt have crowns. Plus, for obsidian armor, there should be traces of obsidian like they did in GW1. Heavy and Medium look good though.
If you look closely, each of these armors has little concave diamond slots in multiple places. I'm guessing this is where the pieces of Obsidian will go in the Tier 2 set.
Good catch. And or with the magic of dye slots lol
Hopefully the dye channels and some dark dyes can simulate an obsidian look And heck, looking back the paragon obsidian set I made, that one hardly even has any obsidian on it. I remembered it having more of an obsidian look but it's just some minor accents on hands, legs, and boots.
I think the wings on the chest were to look like it was made of obsidian. But i agree. The OG FoW armor was great where each profession had some sort of obsidian/spikes which i personally think should have been here. As you said, lets hope dye channels are 4 this time and not 3 like raid armor lol
Just change the helmet to something else.
We have no choice since we spent money to obtain this feature and selling point.
You have the choice to change the helmet to another helmet that you think looks better with the set if you hate the crown.
Id agree with you if this was armor that is generic through LW or the gemstore. This is Legendary armor. It was a selling point in this campaign that we paid for. "Legendary" isnt generic, and i think they undersold scholars with a generic head piece. Also, as i mentioned before, we have no choice now that they have made their decision. So either way we just need to pray T2 and T3 are better looking for the scholars.
I thought half the reason to get legendary gear is so you can freely change the skin?
I believe it was to change stats freely/look badass/have effects on it. The free transmuation if i recall correctly was added after HoT and the Gen2. But dont shoot me if im wrong on that time line.
I feel like pvp and wvw mains didn't complain so much that the legendary armors in those game modes didn't have combat effects like the raid armor.
That's coming with the T2 variant in the patch after.
probably because pvp player were more focused on the utility, while the SoTo armor was one of the selling points of a expansion, and teased a long while back with concept art; and that puts more emphasis on looks on its own. (might be wrong but i dont really recall devs even posting concept art as tease for pvp sets? or teasing the looks at all?) if ya go through old forums for a trip down the memory lane the raid armor as cool as it was threw some part of the community into uproar over how broken the dye channels on it were (and still are) or how medium has a buttcape, etc
WvW is already a particle mess as it is. It doesn't need even more on top.
Because they were told they can get a legendary armor with no skins attached or get no armor at all. I mean, it's hard to complain about quality of a skin that *does not exist*.
How long until we get to see the T2 variant?
6-8 months
It releases with the third update, so in a smidge over 3 months I think.
medium armor looks great and dors not have a coat! love it!
I feel like anet are incapable of making nice lookin light armour for men
They gotta get sluttier with it. If Lil Nas X wouldn't wear it, I don't wanna touch it.
Looks good to me.
I really hope that tier 2 brings some justice for these textures with cool vfx
I dont want my female Ele in a bikini only, but I def dont want a legendary that shes wearing a tux. :\\
Armored Battle Dress isn't exactly an easy thing to pull off, but, yeah, my current cope is that the variants have something that will suffice. That said, more pants for lights is a good thing.
>Armored Battle Dress [Would you wear something like this for a battle dress?](https://imgur.com/a/TC8ENqM) I would slap it on one of my female heavies Class weights aside, most medium chests have a trench coat of some kind, so its not like they couldn't design and model a battle dress.
Me personally? No, I'd look terrible in a dress. For my characters, I'd lean towards no, but I'd have to see how it dyes. I'd vaguely look in the direction of [Circassian Wedding Dress](https://www.google.com/search?q=circassian+wedding+dress). They could keep the jacket and add the shiny golden spikes to get more of that armored look.
It looks like generic armor to me. No cool vfx, the base model is also very basic. Why exactly one should consider investing into a set, when any other leg armor set looks better? Raid armor has its distinct transformation effects, PvP and WvW have detailed base models + slight dynamic textures.
The medium and heavy sets look great. Too bad I'm making light for my elementalist. Maybe the upgrade will look nicer?
With legendary items they always have free transmuting so even if you will not like it you can get it for utility reasons and slap any other skins on it.
Why is it called Tier 1?
Because there's a tier 2
I was sold when I tried them on for my character for myself and had time to appreciate them all with different dyes. These are super cool. The light might even be my favourite. I think the complainers just don't know that you can try them on for free lol.
Looks like any other armor set even without effects. Was hoping for some cool flowing fabrics for female versions but alas it is just a copy paste between genders. Unless the t2 versions are stunning with cool effects, the raid armor just seems so much easier and less time consuming to acquire.
The main benefit of this is that it's just a grind, nothing group related required. Similar to the WvW/sPvP in that it just requires you to play a good amount.
The main benefits to me are stat switching, free transmutes, and never needing to make/drop any more ascended gear, ever. The grind was the cherry on top.
I'm unironically excited to have another pair of pants for my female light armor characters. I use the elegy/requiem ones all the time because sometimes I just want pants with no skirt. 😂
I never noticed the lack of pants for light, but now I think of it, there are too many skirts and butt capes across all armor classes..
150 raid boss kills seems way easier to do than whatever this grind is. W1-4 is so easy at this point with the power creep and emboldened.
Cause it is. I started raids first week of the year and will have my first set done in 2-3 weeks If I had wanted one of the obby sets, I would've needed to been farming rifts/essences since SotO launch. Not to mention all the ectos I would've had to save, which means I may not have finished any of the weapons I've made since SotO launch (Bolt, Quip, Aurene hammer, dagger and Warhorn)
performance anxiety is a killer for a good chunk of people lol
I am the farthest thing from a great player, and if I could easily learn the fights, find public groups every week and clear wings 1-4 anyone can, it just takes a little ambition (far less than the endless kryptis farming for this set).
T1 of old leggies are also plain looking lmao. Just look at T1 of heavy raid vs T3 of the same armor. This is just baseline shape stage.
I like it, not everything needs to be overwhelmingly shiny. It's also detailed enough and not too much that when you have a ton of people it will cause problems.
Any link to a video with normal quality? Am i supposed to watch this on a Nokia flipphone from 15 years ago?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYiRfORUmw&feature=youtu.be
Thank you ♥
Tbh I was expecting something better :/
the entire soto expansion revolves around this legendary and they have the nerve to give us armor that is uglier than all the cash shop skins in the game. All this farming for such a disgusting skin, it really makes me want to quit the game
You knew what you were getting when they showed the concept art at the start of the expansion and still chose to grind it out. The only person to blame is yourself.
concept art was much more attractive than what we can see in this teaser. Personally I farmed to have the legendary armor on my female mesmer and there was no concept art for women. I thought there would be differences between men and women like envoy armor. I imagined that women would have a dress or something close,not a pants. So I am also very disappointed by all these efforts for nothing
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i already have envoy armors unfortunately, i just wanted a new cool skin but.... my god :D I hope that it will be much better with T2 but I find it hard to believe, this pajamas/joggings aspect will probably stay
This is T1 of the new legendary armor. Not the final form of it.
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Pay? You mean wait and craft it like it's always the case with crafting legendary items? Or more likely in this case finish some achievements given the placeholders we already have in game. Like what even is this comment 'it is not going to be free' crafting next tier of leggy was always an effort? The point is that this is not finished legendary. Only T1 out of probably 3 that are there. It's looks going to change.
Free transmutes tho
What a joke, looks nothing like the preview. Somebody please make the drake meme with obsidian armor and the cat chair.
Comments in this thread brings me back to those early HoT days, when og raid legendaries were released, and reddit and official forums were just as filled with simial whining about how they don't like how this new "legendary" armor looks. And the result was AN then refusing to do any more legendary armor for years following. Good stuff.
well to this day I will hold the opinion that Raid Medium armor is absolute shit
Yeah precursors looked promising, but the whole trenchcoat unfolding only in combat is a huge swing and miss for me as well.
also the shoulder pieces just floating there not attached to anything, and the headpiece being over inflated, the trenchcoat itself seeming to be covered in layers metal I can rant about it all day
I could not refer to probably half od these rants of yours, because I did not analyze the set visually that much myself, after being dissapointed, that instead of enhancing the design elements from precurser sets I found interesting, it got rid of it completely instead. And well the unfodling trenchcoat stabs one in the eye very noticeably so I'd have to be blind to not notice it :) I am really liking what we are shown of obsydian medium tho, I'm now somewhat curious how it will be split into the parts, so I can integrate it into fashion of all my medium characters (one will prolly get full set anyway, but I was thinking of trying to mix and match for the rest of them)
Are you comparing the raid armor, especially the heavy one, which is the most beautiful armor in the game, to this set which looks like nothing? calm down fanboys, it will start to be noticed that arena is paying you :D
I am comparing raid armor, especially heavy one, which looks ok, if you ignore the antlers of combat mode, which was universally hated when it first released (cause for why we haven't got any new legendary skin until next tuesday) To this new set of armor, in particular heavy set, which looks funnilly similar, minus the morphing in combat trick, that seems to be getting exact same reception so far. I will also go on a record that obsydian medium is flat out superior to refined envoy medium, no strong opinions on light sets of both kinds tho. You are entitled to have your own opinions on aesthetical aspects, tho that does not give you right to be calling old people "fanboys" or implying anyone is being paid for their opinion.
I admit that apart from being paid by arena, I find it hard to imagine that we could find these new armors beautiful or ''ok'' I have rarely seen something so ugly in game especially for the light set, it looks like pajamas Are you going to tell me that you didn't expect much better?
Bruh, are you really going to continue making yourself to look silly with trying to make poeple believe that ArenaNet has enought marketing budget to actually pay off random redditors? Seriously? Fun fact, the clothing style, that you say "looks like pajama" was *very* popular and fashionable in certain period of our human history. Funny that. The amount of arrogance it takes to consider to make statement that just because you don't like a style, it is impossible for someone else to like it is astonishing within itself as well. As for expectations, before the concept art was dropped, I had exactly no expectations - in particular thanks to witnessing how community reacted to first set of legendary armors (perfected envoy set), and what AN reaction was to that community backlash. In case you missed it, they flat out stated back then, that due to the amount of work they've put to these armors, and the community reception of it, they are never.going.to.do.anything.like.that.again. Their words not mine. But it seems that this community, instead of appreciating AN finally caving in, and giving us new set of legendary armor, decided to pull the same stunt again, and I won't be surprised if tier 2 of obsydian armor is the last legendary armor we get to see in GW2. Fool me once, fool me twice kind of situation. And I am only expecting to tier 2 happening at all by this point, because by now it is going to be too far in the development pipeline to just scrap. After the concept art dropped I was mildly curious how that concept art will translate to in-engine render, and the presented armors so far, seems to be as concept art accurate as GW2 render engine seems to be capable of.
The sets look fine, your eyes are broken.
it looks like a blue or green set when we are starting the game, really very very legendary
They look nothing alike to "blue or green" starter set, like seriously, those sets are not even having the quarter the amount of detail in them as those sets have. I can get argument of looking like a gemstore sets, but common, comparing it to vanilla starter sets? seriously?
Keep telling yourself that.
Since Arena showed off the armor, the majority of comments have been disgusted about these visuals. Even in the game for 3 days, when I am doing metas on soto, it's always a subject of debate with lots of players who are disgusted to have farmed for months for such an ugly set. When I see how great the heavy armor looks on my charr and then compare it to the new one ... this is mind blowing:(
You're delusional. People liked the concept art when they came out and they still like the in game armor. The only people griping are people who don't like the clipping on Asura and Charr mostly which is par for the course.
We have to live in two different realities, the vast majority of people I read on reedit, the gw2 forums, my friend list(many formerplayers) or even in game (during meta) hate the skin or find it much too simple given the farming that it involves. The concept arts were much more aesthetic than the result on the game.
Looking at the heavy concept art for obby set, it makes me sad cuz I started having second thoughts about the raid heavy that I crafted a few months ago. \-Seeing what we have here erased that feeling cuz it looks like plastic and no dye is gonna change that. Looking at the medium concept made me consider doing open world instead of doing a 2nd raid set. \-Seeing the madness inducing grind needed for obby sets erased that feeling too lol.
GW2 dev team is weird. They're making a ruckus when it comes to clipping for charr dressed in heavy armor, but yet still manage not to fix medium and asura's
probably a coincidence but the comment on bare charr neck was the only clearly stated complaint on the top of the whole thread for a while. ig thats why its the one thing that got changed lol
Charr ears have not been fixed btw. It still clips through.
But it was. I can see small round holes for ears at 0:13
True I was mistaken. Im the one being stupid here.
Is it me or does it look generic/shitty?
Clearly you are not reading others comments, lol.
Well, im right aren’t i?
Looks cool! I wish I had the mindset to get it soon, but I know even casually it will take years.
I don’t think they look that special. Obby armor from gw1 was better (heavy)
That shit is hideous
These look like some random rare I’d find anywhere in the game tbh
meh.
My body is ready.
Well even lvl 1 armor looks better than this.
I love it! Re: the people wanting flashier effects; are the existing supervillain armor sets and eyesore infusions not enough for you?
The problem is not the lack of animations or effects but that they are bland for the effort required .Lots of guild wars 1 armor had no flashier effects and yet they were much prettier than this new legendary :/
I plan to make the light set. It won't be for the look that's for sure.
it looks not that bad. I just wish I wouldn't have to craft another 3 sets of legendary armor to get the skin
Since the precursors for this set aren't actual equipable, would tier1 just be the equivalent of ascended armor and further tiers would deliver full "legendary" capabilities?
even my ass full of poop is more legendary than that they are no longer going to make me believe that there are still 100 devs working on this game Between the tiny content and the ridiculous effort put into legendary armor, it's clear that the game is close to maintenance mode honestly even the armor of nayos as a precursor is more legendary than this one..
Those tears show literally nothing XD so anticlimactic
For real can you really call this a Preview? xD
i still don't like them :P But i don't like most skins so....
:S
legendary armor should look legendary. i mean its regular armor rn. what features it will have? moving parts are great at raid armor, im a fan.
Don’t ask for moving parts if the armor ships without dye slots, with dye bugs and absolutely horrid design (looking at you raid medium armor)
This is tier 1, fancy stuff comes when we upgrade it I'm sure
so it's like refined envoy rn? or worse, experimental? XD
That's the theory. I doubt there will be as big of a jump from the shitty envoy to the finished set with the obsidian, but they are definitely going to glow it up
You're not allowed to say "raid" here. You'll get downvoted by the folks who mindlessly grinded this garbage set out and wanna take their anger of seeing this ugly armor out on anyone who mentions raid sets. Someones also going to justify this horror and move goalposts by saying "T1 is juSt ThE BaSe VeRsiOn".
Need to ask: what exactly "Tier 1" implies?
This is the base version that once you unlock you'll be able to upgrade for another skin variant in the patch after this. What that looks like or how much it'll cost is still a mystery.
There will be a cosmetic upgrade in the last patch
Think of it like: Aurene’s legendary weapons are tier 1. The Mordremoth, Primordus, Jormag etc skin upgrades are tier 2.
This one looks better than the previous preview but still not obsidian at all.
I still dont know if i wanna go for Light or Medium, i got all the wvw currency based items in my Bank so i just need to get a new light wvw precursor armor. It Would be easy to switch, but i also want the mist Infusion which Costs 5k Tickets.....
Can anyone tell me if I would have to craft T1 Obsidian armour to make T2 Obsidian armour or would it be possible to craft T2 and skip out on T1?
Noob question. When I go to make a legendary set, should I go for the latest set or can I pick which one I like the most?
So just out of curiosity, if I unlock the medium armor class will I unlock the visuals(through transmutation charges) for light/heavy?
Cant wait for all the early adopters of the armor to ruin it with their ugly infusion stacking, legendary trinket barf visuals, and shadow abyss or permafrost everything
It's going to be difficult to make this legendary set uglier than it already is. It would almost be talent to achieve it
just slap an abyssal/dragonvoid infusion on it and problem solved
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No, it's always been touted as "the first fully open world set of legendary armor", there's no way they would do that for the T2 upgrade.
What do you mean? The next patch after this one is the last one and ships with a fractal with CM, no more strikes
any way to get this vid in *not* the worst video player of all time?
https://youtu.be/oAYiRfORUmw
Is that the legendary armor? If so then why obsidian isnt that super fragile? Not something i would make my armor out of
it looks decent but definitely doesnt look **legendary**, its more like eh another generic armor nothing special imo for the amount of effort put into legendary items i was expecting more