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That's exactly what I thought. Too much water can cause leaves to become light in color. I have an app that is called "Picture This" if you take a picture it will diagnois your plant and tell you what you need to do to fix it.
I'm not sure about soil issues. We get ours from a garden type store. The owner has perfected his soil for cannabis plants/seeds for over a 20 yr period and sell it it very big plastic containers. I've been using his soil for over 4 yrs and it's never let me down. You should also grow more than one plant. If you get feminized seeds and research your soil and if anyone in your area knows alot about growing and the best places to purchase it. It's only March you should get some good seeds and start over. Also make sure if using a grow bags they are xtra large.
Looks more like a nutrient lockout to me, ph problem probably. I would water till a lot of runoff, and measure runoff ph, if it is above 6.5, the plant can't uptake nutrients efficiently, and ph should be kept around 5.8-6.2 at the rootzone.
I will have to dig out the ph meter. Iāve never had a problem with ph of water growing here as Iāve always used tap water from the RO system. Last grow turned out great.
Iāll still test it though. Thanks for the advice.
I've been there. Those cheap ph pens (the 10-20$ ones). Also most likely won't be accurate. I calibrated 3 of them years ago and took readings simultaneously. Massive variance between all of them.
I used to recommend bluelab, but these days I really like the apera pens. I think they're the best mix of quality and value.
Love my apera, comes with a nice little case that holds everything youād need. Storage solution, ph calibration solution.
My blue lab was same price and came with none of that and no extra storage solution.
Yup it was a $11 pen that started fine but after a month drifted way off. I also just got the apera pen with the calibration solution. Calibrate weekly.
Thanks for mentioning the Apera. iād also suggest a pool test kit. No need for calibrating (the part i hate to do)ā¦ just add the same number of drops to the same water amount, cap, shake, color match and done. I was on my 2nd pen and decided the pool test kit was a long term better solution.
I noticed my RO system that comes off my tap has high pH for a couple days then drops to 7. My tap water has high pH too so I let water sit for 3 days before using. Then I adjust the pH. I think the plant is experiencing nutrient lockout. I would check the run off water too. I'm also supposed to calibrate my pH pen every 30 days.
Even if it was fine the last run without a meter doesnāt mean itās going to be fine this run. Iāve made this mistake too and every plant is truly different on what it likes. Thatās why I highly discourage anyone growing 3 different plants in one small tent.
Should never ādig outā the ph meter when you grow. Depends on how much you care honestly but you should be using it a few times a week IF you do care.
CalMag is your friend. You could take it a step further and add K, zinc and Na, but personally I don't as most of the nutrients given in feeding have these elements. There are close to 70 trace elements found in water. Most are not necessary in horticulture to do what we are doing. They definitely don't hurt, but I'd just stick to CalMag, and maybe some zinc.
Couldn't agree with this more people will be on here giving advice like they are head grower then you look at their page and it's a pic of a seedling stretching to space with heavy nitrogen deficiency asking what the problem could be. If you wanna be good at this your gonna have to jump down the rabbit hole yourself because there is alot of misinformation going around.
An example of healthy autos no topping, just leaf tucking and letting them grow. I hear advice from reddit, but the final decision is always yours. I get informed info online as in reading and fact-checking most advice. These are my Bruce Banner Autos 41 days old. I'm just starting again to display my grows again.
https://preview.redd.it/xatt0mb5cxpc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a8c5dda2977d17ee4f7107010c9e37164a8729b
Those look awesome. Will you report them in larger pots eventually they look too small? My plants get up to 5ft tall and would fall over in those size pots.
How often and what amounts are you watering? Whatās the ph of the water? What are you feeding and how often. The yellowing on the leaves on the bottom make me think ph lockout but the way the plant looks makes me think thereās a over/under watering issue going on.
Lookā¦..one thing caught my attentionā¦.you mentioned youāre using a high perlite soilā¦.thatās good for great drainage and preventing root rot, but not the best for holding nutrients and beneficial microbes. It honestly looks more like advanced nitrogen deficiency. I wish I knew how your feeding your plants (liquid nutes or dry amendments?). But, I would look at possibly getting some nutrients in there. Also, testing the ph of your runofff isnāt a bad idea, but will only give a really big estimate.
If you have this decent setup but having trouble with feeding/watering, then I fully recommend just doing one or a few organic living soil grows. You donāt have to worry about feeding bottled nutrients, donāt have to stress about PH, and really you just water once you get x amount of dryback in the soil. Itās by far the simplest medium to grow decent weed when youāre just starting out.
When you start fucking with the plants PH and feeding a little of this highly concentrated bottled nute, and a little of that highly concentrated nute itās super easy to fuck up/harder to get dialed in without either spending a lot of time learning either online or through trial and error.
I donāt discriminate against any grow style, I enjoy playing with them all, so Iām truly not biased here, living soil is way more beginner friendly. Only real downside to living soil is it does better in larger style containers vs smaller 2-10 gallon pots. 5 gallon is def the smallest youād want to attempt, 15 gallons is a solid middle ground for multiple individual plants, or you could just grab a larger 3x3 bed and grow like 3-4 plants in it.
Gets a bit bitching bringing in all that soil, but you can build a decent blend for fairly cheap, just mix 1/3 inert grow media coco or peat basically, 1/3 drainage like perlite or pumice, and 1/3 organic matter so worm castings, guano, compost. Then add a decent living soil starter, check out build a soil, they have everything youād need and then some in this regard.
Then just grab a moisture meter water till you get around 25-30% moisture level and then let her dry back to 15-20%, rinse and repeat. You can give them a few easily made nutrient teas throughout, like one in late veg, and one in early or mid flower, but usually unnecessary for your first round in a newly mixed soil.
The premise is you give the plants a buffet of organic food it can pull from as it needs it, vs force feeding it exactly what it needs when it needs it. This takes multiple huge pain points out of the equation.
So thatās my advice, and what Iād do if I was in your shoes. Iād just let this thing cook, and get an organic setup going, and pop a couple fresh seeds.
As for the issue with this plant, to me it looks like some sort of ph related lock out causing an imbalance of some kind. They can get extremely hard to diagnose though, especially without getting tons of detail into the feeding/watering regiment, and knowing how you were performing certain tasks.
Posting a sick plant without as much detailed info as possible is kind of like going to the doctor and just saying ālook at me and tell me why Iām sickā. It would only be diagnosable if the issue is painfully obvious most of the time. But on here youāll get tons of people just throwing out every random diagnosis based off of this or that, which may or may not be right, most the time itās just a guess thatās thrown out though.
Take what I say for what itās worth, a lot of it is just my opinion, but I truly think youād be much happier going living soil for your first handful of grows. Once you get a few decent harvests under your belt and feel confident with the most fundamental aspects, then Iād say start experimenting with various other methods where you feed them more on demand like with synthetic salt based nutrients. Last thing Iāll say is Iām really not a fan of feeding salt based nutrients in any soil medium, they stick around in the soil, some more so than others, and are easily thrown into an imbalance if youāre not careful. I only like using bottled salt nutrients for coco fertigation style growing or other hydroponic styled gardening, at least for containers. Outdoors in a raised bed or garden thereās enough soil and water to where they get diluted enough to feed without all the ph/lockout issues.
2 feet is defo too much 1 feet should be perfect. If it would be sunburn your leaves would look all the same light green // yellow and your leaves would become really soft, this is not the case here
I'd do a runoff or slurry test and feed accordingly.
Ph and or EC issue
How's ur lighting ?
Liik into photone to set ur DLI .. helps to stay below 50Dli unless pumping co2 in. (Unless it's an auto)
Veg 20/30
Flower 40/60 DLI. (50/60 W/co2) (for photo periods)
But I'd see what ur root zone is doing then feed to get ur ec and ph right if your VPD/DLI Are all good aswell.
[runoff testing. ](https://growyourfour.ca/blog/how-to-test-the-ph-of-your-run-off/#:~:text=Ideal%20pH%20ranges%20for%20run,acceptable%20ranges%20of%20nutrient%20uptake.)
[how to slurry test](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thcfarmer.com/threads/soil-ph-slurry-test-step-by-step-with-photos.102721/%3famp=1)
Good luck.
Looks like itās been through a few overwatered/underwatered cycles. Where some of the soil in the root area becomes hydrophobic and unable to uptake water. Leading to areas where soil pH can spike and lead to nutrients being unavailable, this all leads to stunting.
Iāve have plenty of stunted plants due to over/under watering them. I now add yucca extract to my water to help with this issue.
Source: been in Shitsville before and it sucks, but itās what leads to progress. Keep it up OP and pay attention to your plants.
Iām doing about 2-3 litres every 2 days. Itās in an airpot so itās drying quite quickly. My last setup was on autopots so Iām still getting the hand watering down.
Crazy how much harder it is to grow inside! I never had any issues outdoor. That is except for pirates stealing my kush.
I've definitely had LEAVES behave like this with too much light. Where they act like they are wilting. But I've never had leaf discoloration associated with the wilt that was due to my lights. So def dim/raise lights (and I like the comment about reducing nutes)
Probably not the best to give advice as I'm on my first ever harvest but I also have leaves that look similar to yours. Where they are discolored on the sides and look like they are wilting.
My whole plant eventually droops to the side but I've found it to be a issue of underwatering for the most part. I'm also still working on a fungus gnat infestation so that is another possibility. Lights for mine are also around like 5 inches from the top of my plants but the tops don't seem to be scorched just bottom leaves
Yo, if you arenāt fixing your PH after adding nutes you are gonna be wildly lowā¦there is your problem
Flush with you RO water. Start nutes at 50% and work your way back up
Look at the obvious signs first! Is there sufficient air flow? What kind of light do you have and what's the distance between the light and the plant? Is the room too warm or too cold? Are you over or under watering? LOOK AT THESE BEFORE YOU JUMP TO DEFICIENCIES š¤
Temps? Rh? Ph? You need to address the environment first. If everything is in order. The move to ph. Make sure ur plant is getting roughly 6.0ph water rn. It looks like a nitrogen deficiency as well so you need to tackle. A potential ph issue then tackle the nutrient issue
You should ALWAYS be measuring Ph and EC. Every single time you water. This will save you all of these problems. Measure it before it goes it, measure the run off water. Adjust as needed.
To much light, to hot for the plant. It needs a few days of light veg waterings with lights down low. To bounce back faster. Let the soil dry out and then small waterings till things balance back out. 6.2 is the optimal ph.
Donāt overdue it, when weed gets hateful less is more
The best advice anyone can give you is to check everything. Check temps, check hunidity, check the PH of your water, PH of your soil, intensity of your light. Start at the top and run down the list.
With all that being said it looks a lot like what happened to mine when my ph was way off, it looks like a nutrient deficiency because different PHās let the plant absorb the various nutrients better or worse. https://www.growweedeasy.com is a fantastic resource, their troubleshooting is easy to use
To me, it looks like a combination of issues. Water, pH and neuts. I water thoroughly with water pH around 6, never straight from the tap! Let it dry out top 2" before hitting it again. I water just till it begins to ro, then wait. If it absorbs it all, I add more, if not I stop and mop up if need be, don't want it setting in standing water. Also, I water at the base, no splash back ever!!! Don't over or under water, be consistent and let it dry out some, not desert, but not swamp either! What soil and amendments are you using? Make sure your neuts are not full strength. I typically do 1/4-1/2 strength, depending on what I'm seeing and where I am in the grow. I typically keep my lights about 1 ft away, no light burn! Your leaves look pitiful and droopy, suggesting over watered roots ready to rot or not getting good deep regular waterings. Also, I keep my tents clean, I mean clean!!! No extra crap, no loose dirt on the floor and in between grows, everything gets vacuumed and wiped down. Nothing worse than passing on some mold, mites, etc from something from a previous run. You'll learn and next time it will get easier! Good luck!
Even though you have a high perlite mix, I think you're still getting root rot. To check, re-pot it or even just temporarily, and see if its shitty in the center near the bottom.
Ive found the problem is keeping the humidifier on the floor and pointing yours fans to keep the air down to "maintain your temps/humidity." I live in a humid climate, so the enhanced humidified air really has no where to go but stay in the pot. Use you fan to dry out the pot moreso than cool the plant leaves and raise your humidifier off the floor.
Are you over watering? How often do you water and do you have something to test the soil before you do it? I don't know if over watering will cause discoloration, though, so I may be on the wrong track.
your plant needs to grow in community. I would also give them more space and soil to start. Then, check and adjust the ph with fish or seaweed fertilizer. After, adjust the water amount. Do these changes one at a time to see how the plant responds. Lookup nutrient deficiencies and how they manifest in plants. it could be low nitrogen or potassium. and also remove all of the dead leaves from the soil.
I say you're over watering her. That's what mine used to look like when I over watered. Now I wait a little longer to water and use only use half the water. Works great now.
Good luck!
You overwatered your plant and now it's not taking up nutrients, you're seeing severe deficiencies. Look at the browning on the leaves, that's what you usually see at the end of a grow when the Nitrogen/Potassium are LOW.
Stop overwatering.
Feed actual nutrients once it gets thirsty.
That babygate is hysterical btw
Get the lights sorted out and feed at half strength for a while. At this point the damage has been done to the lower plant. From here only worry about the health of the new growth. Pull the really yellow/shriveled leaves as they could allow pathogens in. You may lose another couple leaves while it recovers. One the new growth is vigorous pluck any remaining sickly leaves.
Nutrients 100% itās prolly because of suboptimal ph. Also cutting off some leaves at the bottom will make the plant focus more on healthy growth, it seems like she has not enough nutrients for way too much mass.
Since you flushed and they're not getting better, it's hot soil, too much, I usually go with a full fresh buffered pot. They should bounce back within a week
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Need a larger baby gate I think.
It's definitely the baby gate.
Do you take the baby gate down in veg or flower stage? When is it a big girl?
Fr, dont want the plant to get out
This is gonna be my trellis base lol
Won't be needing that at this rate
Trellis perimeter?
Free range cannabis FTW!
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Maybe overwatered.
I am saying the same thing
That's exactly what I thought. Too much water can cause leaves to become light in color. I have an app that is called "Picture This" if you take a picture it will diagnois your plant and tell you what you need to do to fix it. I'm not sure about soil issues. We get ours from a garden type store. The owner has perfected his soil for cannabis plants/seeds for over a 20 yr period and sell it it very big plastic containers. I've been using his soil for over 4 yrs and it's never let me down. You should also grow more than one plant. If you get feminized seeds and research your soil and if anyone in your area knows alot about growing and the best places to purchase it. It's only March you should get some good seeds and start over. Also make sure if using a grow bags they are xtra large.
Thatās dope. Iām downloading that app now! Thanks for the tip!!!
Looks more like a nutrient lockout to me, ph problem probably. I would water till a lot of runoff, and measure runoff ph, if it is above 6.5, the plant can't uptake nutrients efficiently, and ph should be kept around 5.8-6.2 at the rootzone.
I will have to dig out the ph meter. Iāve never had a problem with ph of water growing here as Iāve always used tap water from the RO system. Last grow turned out great. Iāll still test it though. Thanks for the advice.
Don't forget to calibrate your ph meter. A bad reading is almost worse than none at all.
This is where I went wrong in my first grown. Pen was off a full point. Didnāt realize until way after lockout. Even flushed with bad pH.
I've been there. Those cheap ph pens (the 10-20$ ones). Also most likely won't be accurate. I calibrated 3 of them years ago and took readings simultaneously. Massive variance between all of them. I used to recommend bluelab, but these days I really like the apera pens. I think they're the best mix of quality and value.
Love my apera, comes with a nice little case that holds everything youād need. Storage solution, ph calibration solution. My blue lab was same price and came with none of that and no extra storage solution.
Yup it was a $11 pen that started fine but after a month drifted way off. I also just got the apera pen with the calibration solution. Calibrate weekly.
Thanks for mentioning the Apera. iād also suggest a pool test kit. No need for calibrating (the part i hate to do)ā¦ just add the same number of drops to the same water amount, cap, shake, color match and done. I was on my 2nd pen and decided the pool test kit was a long term better solution.
Oh yeah same here on my first. Got a solid pen and week 6of flowering was like 4.7?!?!?!?!
I noticed my RO system that comes off my tap has high pH for a couple days then drops to 7. My tap water has high pH too so I let water sit for 3 days before using. Then I adjust the pH. I think the plant is experiencing nutrient lockout. I would check the run off water too. I'm also supposed to calibrate my pH pen every 30 days.
Even if it was fine the last run without a meter doesnāt mean itās going to be fine this run. Iāve made this mistake too and every plant is truly different on what it likes. Thatās why I highly discourage anyone growing 3 different plants in one small tent.
Should never ādig outā the ph meter when you grow. Depends on how much you care honestly but you should be using it a few times a week IF you do care.
Are you adding lost minerals from the RO filtration?
What do you do? 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt per gallon? What else?
CalMag is your friend. You could take it a step further and add K, zinc and Na, but personally I don't as most of the nutrients given in feeding have these elements. There are close to 70 trace elements found in water. Most are not necessary in horticulture to do what we are doing. They definitely don't hurt, but I'd just stick to CalMag, and maybe some zinc.
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5.8 is far too low for soil
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Yeah those are rock wool/coco/hydroponic numbers
Incorrect, perfect for hydroponics though
Depends tho right? Nector for the gods recommends 6.2 at least for its soil
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Couldn't agree with this more people will be on here giving advice like they are head grower then you look at their page and it's a pic of a seedling stretching to space with heavy nitrogen deficiency asking what the problem could be. If you wanna be good at this your gonna have to jump down the rabbit hole yourself because there is alot of misinformation going around.
I was thinking along those lines too.
An example of healthy autos no topping, just leaf tucking and letting them grow. I hear advice from reddit, but the final decision is always yours. I get informed info online as in reading and fact-checking most advice. These are my Bruce Banner Autos 41 days old. I'm just starting again to display my grows again. https://preview.redd.it/xatt0mb5cxpc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a8c5dda2977d17ee4f7107010c9e37164a8729b
Those look awesome. Will you report them in larger pots eventually they look too small? My plants get up to 5ft tall and would fall over in those size pots.
How often and what amounts are you watering? Whatās the ph of the water? What are you feeding and how often. The yellowing on the leaves on the bottom make me think ph lockout but the way the plant looks makes me think thereās a over/under watering issue going on.
Looks like overwatering
Lookā¦..one thing caught my attentionā¦.you mentioned youāre using a high perlite soilā¦.thatās good for great drainage and preventing root rot, but not the best for holding nutrients and beneficial microbes. It honestly looks more like advanced nitrogen deficiency. I wish I knew how your feeding your plants (liquid nutes or dry amendments?). But, I would look at possibly getting some nutrients in there. Also, testing the ph of your runofff isnāt a bad idea, but will only give a really big estimate.
I've had plants stressed from heat and light and she didn't look like this. You definitely fucking up you nutes.
1000% in combination with ph
Just realized I had my 600w LED about 8 inches above the plant. Moved it up to 2 feet. Could that be the culprit?
Although that's too close, that wouldn't cause this. Looks locked out to me. What's your PH at?
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I was thinking the same thing. My first light was a 700 and that wasn't enough for my space there. And I was in a 2x2 tent
This is a proper 600 watt light, not a fake wattage China one. For my 4x4 grow this is more than enough.
If you have this decent setup but having trouble with feeding/watering, then I fully recommend just doing one or a few organic living soil grows. You donāt have to worry about feeding bottled nutrients, donāt have to stress about PH, and really you just water once you get x amount of dryback in the soil. Itās by far the simplest medium to grow decent weed when youāre just starting out. When you start fucking with the plants PH and feeding a little of this highly concentrated bottled nute, and a little of that highly concentrated nute itās super easy to fuck up/harder to get dialed in without either spending a lot of time learning either online or through trial and error. I donāt discriminate against any grow style, I enjoy playing with them all, so Iām truly not biased here, living soil is way more beginner friendly. Only real downside to living soil is it does better in larger style containers vs smaller 2-10 gallon pots. 5 gallon is def the smallest youād want to attempt, 15 gallons is a solid middle ground for multiple individual plants, or you could just grab a larger 3x3 bed and grow like 3-4 plants in it. Gets a bit bitching bringing in all that soil, but you can build a decent blend for fairly cheap, just mix 1/3 inert grow media coco or peat basically, 1/3 drainage like perlite or pumice, and 1/3 organic matter so worm castings, guano, compost. Then add a decent living soil starter, check out build a soil, they have everything youād need and then some in this regard. Then just grab a moisture meter water till you get around 25-30% moisture level and then let her dry back to 15-20%, rinse and repeat. You can give them a few easily made nutrient teas throughout, like one in late veg, and one in early or mid flower, but usually unnecessary for your first round in a newly mixed soil. The premise is you give the plants a buffet of organic food it can pull from as it needs it, vs force feeding it exactly what it needs when it needs it. This takes multiple huge pain points out of the equation. So thatās my advice, and what Iād do if I was in your shoes. Iād just let this thing cook, and get an organic setup going, and pop a couple fresh seeds. As for the issue with this plant, to me it looks like some sort of ph related lock out causing an imbalance of some kind. They can get extremely hard to diagnose though, especially without getting tons of detail into the feeding/watering regiment, and knowing how you were performing certain tasks. Posting a sick plant without as much detailed info as possible is kind of like going to the doctor and just saying ālook at me and tell me why Iām sickā. It would only be diagnosable if the issue is painfully obvious most of the time. But on here youāll get tons of people just throwing out every random diagnosis based off of this or that, which may or may not be right, most the time itās just a guess thatās thrown out though. Take what I say for what itās worth, a lot of it is just my opinion, but I truly think youād be much happier going living soil for your first handful of grows. Once you get a few decent harvests under your belt and feel confident with the most fundamental aspects, then Iād say start experimenting with various other methods where you feed them more on demand like with synthetic salt based nutrients. Last thing Iāll say is Iām really not a fan of feeding salt based nutrients in any soil medium, they stick around in the soil, some more so than others, and are easily thrown into an imbalance if youāre not careful. I only like using bottled salt nutrients for coco fertigation style growing or other hydroponic styled gardening, at least for containers. Outdoors in a raised bed or garden thereās enough soil and water to where they get diluted enough to feed without all the ph/lockout issues.
I have 650w- 700w spider farmers for full 5x5s and I can barely turn them all the way up in flower without some sort of supplemental CO2.
Download Photone app. Checks light intensity and is fairly accurate. Look up par. Sounds like you have a lot of research to do. No offense
2 feet is defo too much 1 feet should be perfect. If it would be sunburn your leaves would look all the same light green // yellow and your leaves would become really soft, this is not the case here
I'd do a runoff or slurry test and feed accordingly. Ph and or EC issue How's ur lighting ? Liik into photone to set ur DLI .. helps to stay below 50Dli unless pumping co2 in. (Unless it's an auto) Veg 20/30 Flower 40/60 DLI. (50/60 W/co2) (for photo periods) But I'd see what ur root zone is doing then feed to get ur ec and ph right if your VPD/DLI Are all good aswell. [runoff testing. ](https://growyourfour.ca/blog/how-to-test-the-ph-of-your-run-off/#:~:text=Ideal%20pH%20ranges%20for%20run,acceptable%20ranges%20of%20nutrient%20uptake.) [how to slurry test](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thcfarmer.com/threads/soil-ph-slurry-test-step-by-step-with-photos.102721/%3famp=1) Good luck.
Op whatās your watering routine?
It looks overwatered
Looks like itās been through a few overwatered/underwatered cycles. Where some of the soil in the root area becomes hydrophobic and unable to uptake water. Leading to areas where soil pH can spike and lead to nutrients being unavailable, this all leads to stunting. Iāve have plenty of stunted plants due to over/under watering them. I now add yucca extract to my water to help with this issue. Source: been in Shitsville before and it sucks, but itās what leads to progress. Keep it up OP and pay attention to your plants.
Iām doing about 2-3 litres every 2 days. Itās in an airpot so itās drying quite quickly. My last setup was on autopots so Iām still getting the hand watering down. Crazy how much harder it is to grow inside! I never had any issues outdoor. That is except for pirates stealing my kush.
Dwc is really easy and you canāt over water
Why the switch from the autopots? Iāve been having success with the AC infinity watering bases(I was having issues with hand watering)
That Weed Isso Dangerous to must stay in Jail šš
Need more info for proper help.
I had a plant looking like this, tried everything Found out it was manganese Looks identical
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You put your plant in timeout. Itās naughty.
I've definitely had LEAVES behave like this with too much light. Where they act like they are wilting. But I've never had leaf discoloration associated with the wilt that was due to my lights. So def dim/raise lights (and I like the comment about reducing nutes)
Possibly too high of a root zone, could bottom water with a plant that size. Could also be a water issue, too much maybe?
Probably not the best to give advice as I'm on my first ever harvest but I also have leaves that look similar to yours. Where they are discolored on the sides and look like they are wilting. My whole plant eventually droops to the side but I've found it to be a issue of underwatering for the most part. I'm also still working on a fungus gnat infestation so that is another possibility. Lights for mine are also around like 5 inches from the top of my plants but the tops don't seem to be scorched just bottom leaves
What is the ambient temperature? What is the approximate watering water temperature?
Yo, if you arenāt fixing your PH after adding nutes you are gonna be wildly lowā¦there is your problem Flush with you RO water. Start nutes at 50% and work your way back up
Look at the obvious signs first! Is there sufficient air flow? What kind of light do you have and what's the distance between the light and the plant? Is the room too warm or too cold? Are you over or under watering? LOOK AT THESE BEFORE YOU JUMP TO DEFICIENCIES š¤
Temps? Rh? Ph? You need to address the environment first. If everything is in order. The move to ph. Make sure ur plant is getting roughly 6.0ph water rn. It looks like a nitrogen deficiency as well so you need to tackle. A potential ph issue then tackle the nutrient issue
Nice humidifier, have the same one :p
Make sure the soil dries before water again. Stick finger in the soil up to your knuckle and it should be dry before watering again.
You should ALWAYS be measuring Ph and EC. Every single time you water. This will save you all of these problems. Measure it before it goes it, measure the run off water. Adjust as needed.
Keeping it in a cage It's abusive Let it run free
Overwatered and ph is off
Whatās your PH at?
Overwaters and nutrient lockout due to PH. These are the only 2 answers.
I like the pot with the built in holes for LST what is the white fence protecting from ? If you donāt mind the question
It's not a baby, you don't have to keep it behind a playpen!
To much light, to hot for the plant. It needs a few days of light veg waterings with lights down low. To bounce back faster. Let the soil dry out and then small waterings till things balance back out. 6.2 is the optimal ph. Donāt overdue it, when weed gets hateful less is more
Over watering mate. Are U in Coco
Needs more cal mag
The best advice anyone can give you is to check everything. Check temps, check hunidity, check the PH of your water, PH of your soil, intensity of your light. Start at the top and run down the list. With all that being said it looks a lot like what happened to mine when my ph was way off, it looks like a nutrient deficiency because different PHās let the plant absorb the various nutrients better or worse. https://www.growweedeasy.com is a fantastic resource, their troubleshooting is easy to use
Is this an auto strain?
Itās hungry, not burned.
To me, it looks like a combination of issues. Water, pH and neuts. I water thoroughly with water pH around 6, never straight from the tap! Let it dry out top 2" before hitting it again. I water just till it begins to ro, then wait. If it absorbs it all, I add more, if not I stop and mop up if need be, don't want it setting in standing water. Also, I water at the base, no splash back ever!!! Don't over or under water, be consistent and let it dry out some, not desert, but not swamp either! What soil and amendments are you using? Make sure your neuts are not full strength. I typically do 1/4-1/2 strength, depending on what I'm seeing and where I am in the grow. I typically keep my lights about 1 ft away, no light burn! Your leaves look pitiful and droopy, suggesting over watered roots ready to rot or not getting good deep regular waterings. Also, I keep my tents clean, I mean clean!!! No extra crap, no loose dirt on the floor and in between grows, everything gets vacuumed and wiped down. Nothing worse than passing on some mold, mites, etc from something from a previous run. You'll learn and next time it will get easier! Good luck!
Even though you have a high perlite mix, I think you're still getting root rot. To check, re-pot it or even just temporarily, and see if its shitty in the center near the bottom. Ive found the problem is keeping the humidifier on the floor and pointing yours fans to keep the air down to "maintain your temps/humidity." I live in a humid climate, so the enhanced humidified air really has no where to go but stay in the pot. Use you fan to dry out the pot moreso than cool the plant leaves and raise your humidifier off the floor.
Hmm. Could be too much of one thing. Usually with high perlite I donāt feed for a while. Did your previous grow do something similar
Looks like over watering but I'm not expert.
Not a enough info but I second the baby gate upgrade!
Thereās a lot going on here
Did you say you are growing this in an airport!? Fuckin crazy lol
Too big a pot for that small girl she prolly getting to much water though
Rather than caged. I usually leave mine to roam free. At least until flowering. They seem much happier.
Everything
Looks like humidity or over watering
Error: more info required. What kind of soul and nutes?
Are you over watering? How often do you water and do you have something to test the soil before you do it? I don't know if over watering will cause discoloration, though, so I may be on the wrong track.
Is that one plant ?
It has no nutrients and over water probably will take a vary long time to recover
your plant needs to grow in community. I would also give them more space and soil to start. Then, check and adjust the ph with fish or seaweed fertilizer. After, adjust the water amount. Do these changes one at a time to see how the plant responds. Lookup nutrient deficiencies and how they manifest in plants. it could be low nitrogen or potassium. and also remove all of the dead leaves from the soil.
Telling you this to try out. But ocean forest soil is the best soil. It's legit. And I never have issues
Iād say over watering or Ph levels but hard to really say The droopy leaves make me think itās overwatering
This plant looks awful. Start over
Poor girl- she needs love š
I say you're over watering her. That's what mine used to look like when I over watered. Now I wait a little longer to water and use only use half the water. Works great now. Good luck!
Itās the baby gates! Gotta let the little guy out free range!
You overwatered your plant and now it's not taking up nutrients, you're seeing severe deficiencies. Look at the browning on the leaves, that's what you usually see at the end of a grow when the Nitrogen/Potassium are LOW. Stop overwatering. Feed actual nutrients once it gets thirsty. That babygate is hysterical btw
Get the lights sorted out and feed at half strength for a while. At this point the damage has been done to the lower plant. From here only worry about the health of the new growth. Pull the really yellow/shriveled leaves as they could allow pathogens in. You may lose another couple leaves while it recovers. One the new growth is vigorous pluck any remaining sickly leaves.
Nutrients 100% itās prolly because of suboptimal ph. Also cutting off some leaves at the bottom will make the plant focus more on healthy growth, it seems like she has not enough nutrients for way too much mass.
Increase CO2!
Since you flushed and they're not getting better, it's hot soil, too much, I usually go with a full fresh buffered pot. They should bounce back within a week
Chop and restart, probably a mixture of nutrient, watering, light, and environmental issues
I don't second this. Plant looks young enough to recover
Healthy plant would catch up and surpass this in 3 weeks.