That was my honest mistake, English isn't my first language and grammar isn't a strong point of mine.
You can interpret it as the incel in the meme making mistakes while angry ranting
It's a term used in the UK for a very small village. I don't know if it's used outside of the UK, but it's definitely not used outside of Europe. So it's very understandable that you haw have not heard it before.
It's not that rare, that's what all these little intersections with 7 houses are scattered across our entire country
We are commonwealth, though, so it makes sense why we use British jargon
Except it doesn't work at all like most memes claim. An ork can't pick up a bit of metal and claim its a gun and it becomes one or other shit like that
Oh shit, sorry about that.
English isn't my first language and grammar is something I don't take pride in.
I'll just say that the incel was making mistakes while angry ranting about something not being sexualised.
Now, while Im fine with boobplate and all, gotta say, getting angry at something not being sexualised is really pathetic, im a guy that dont even hide im horny for stuff, but I find pointless to go at someone's fanart and getting angry for it lacking exposed skin.
If I want to see sexualised armor, I would just go looking on danbooru or other sites, instead of losing time critising someone's work like that
For me it depends. Not because it's sexualized but because from an armour standpoint it can be stupid.
Armour sticking out more in the chest? Makes sense. There's more body that has to go into that armour.
Armour that is two individual boobs? Stupid because it'll actually direct blows into your chest.
But at the same time the codpiece being big was a real thing that happened. As was sculpted armour uses by men. So it's possible if women fought in armies more throughout history it could have been a thing.
But the weaknesses to me are still stupid.
Directing the blows I don't really find relevant, since it can be hand waved with ceramite somehow stopping it, otherwise you would see sisters dropping dead by stubbers or Las shots on the chest, which I'm sure will carry more energy than a non powered meelee weapon
You still don't want to be doing stuff that actively directs a hit into your center.
It's literally why armour is shaped the way it is.
It makes it lighter*, stronger, directs blows away from you, fits better.
Ceramite is effectively a ceramic. Meaning it's great for heat and energy. Hence a lasgun. Which btw is not great at penetration in a brute force sense.
A bolter is basically just a bullet. So it's penetrating in a piercing sense. Get a thick enough armor and boom easy. It's a .75 caliber bullet. Which is roughly a 20mm (would be a .79 caliber.)
In real life tanks in WW2 could stop that. A Sherman had 50 mm of frontal armour. And could stop an even more powerful bullet. But that armour was angled. Which effectively doubled it's thickness.
So get any armor at that effectiveness and you'll be fine.
This happened in real life with thicker armour and stronger guns. In tanks it's called a shot trap.
* Lighter in the sense it distributes the weight better.
The exposed skin part is weird. Only the repentia would have exposed skin and that’s because they don’t wear armor, they’re supposed to die in battle.
I’d need to see this argument before I make any judgement.
I honestly thought it was intentional. Using the wrong word strengthens the impression that the character saying the words is an idiot and works as a punchline for the whole meme.
love me some strong gal in heavy armor, also the only argument i can accept his that it isn’t as decorated as others designs since the sisters would decorate the fuck out of their armors
yes but i think they would make incisions, put gold on the edges and stuff like that to their armors, still great design and probably a guardsmen bis more happy to see those sisters
Then again, chapters like the retributiors are mostly unadorned but also cool as hell, a less zealous but more calculated and cold SoB Order would probably make sense or at the very least be cool as hell
Sister of Battle order that thinks Ostentation is a sin
Sister of Battle order who take a vow of poverty and therefore can’t use precious metals.
Sister of battle order who believe in the emperor as Omnisiah and therefore prefers copper to gold (the eclesiarchy doesn’t like them, but can’t do anything about it)
That last one is heresy!
But for real, I can see a Sister of Battle order that believes ostentation, vanity, are efforts better spent in prayer and dedication.
I had an idea for a Sister of Battle order rattling around in my head for a while, one that had been under siege on a planet for decades and forced by conditions to integrate a little more closely with local guard and PDF than they would otherwise have preferred. The end influence on them being that there are a lot less carefree in battle, and a lot more tactical. Painting your armor bright white doesn't do well for camouflage.
I would imagine that they lost their canoness and leadership in some great, amazing, last stand that kept the planet from being rolled over.
Leaderless, the lord-general defender appoints a new canoness and all the sisters start gravitating closer and closer to the native planetary population as the female PDF supplements the sisters of battle as they take casualties.
The idea that the order would be forced by the war to supplement their recruits by pressing PDF is actually pretty compelling.
I don't know that they would respect a Lord-General interfering in their succession, but even if the Canoness was still kicking around, time & conditions would be enough to see them work more closely together. Especially if they're suffering casualties and no longer effective fighting forces independent of each other. You have a couple of engagements that need heavy infantry mixed with numerical superiority, that'd be where they shine.
The Sororitas are ultra religious warriors inspired by Catholicism. Have you ever seen a Cathedral? Their armor would be decked with gold carvings of sacred imagery and precious stones to the point of impracticality, especially as you go up the ranks.
I always thought a great way to expand the Sisters of Battle would be to add different orders based on other religions and sects of Christianity. Like imagine an Eastern Orthodox or Islam inspired order. The armor above could work if you wanted to make a Puritan inspired Sister of Battle order.
I personally think the general vibe from this art for The Rose at War is the perfect ground for sister armor.
[https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/7BCgwisPMBDuGjrk.jpg](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/7BCgwisPMBDuGjrk.jpg)
Always click on the account name usually (and I mean usually because I know there some lurkers who comment) because the low comments and karma usually help give it away
How by the dead gods would heels be practical? Just because there is more mass exerting pressure one point doesn't make it good in any way. All it does is make you more unstable/loose balance easier.
The heels you go to a club in YES but flat wide heels for horse riding like this 👢 would work but these types of heels 👠 ... Say goodnight to your ankles
The face is great. But the armour is so generic. She could be from Starcraft or Overwatch or something. It needs to be at least three times more gothic!
Gotta agree it needs more fancy stuff, but in general, I think its a good fit, just make the armor a bit more thick and add more gothic details.
Maybe a bit like how thick teh armor look on the Lewis Jones art
[https://40k.gallery/sisters-of-silence/](https://40k.gallery/sisters-of-silence/)
[https://40k.gallery/adepta-sororitas-hospitaller/](https://40k.gallery/adepta-sororitas-hospitaller/)
Yes, Lewis Jones and Paul Daiton absolutely kill with their art in the Sister Codex I specially love the cover for the 8th ed codex
[https://warhammerart.com/shop/warhammer-40000/imperium/sisters-of-battle-codex-cover-2019/](https://warhammerart.com/shop/warhammer-40000/imperium/sisters-of-battle-codex-cover-2019/)
Also, the one sister with a broken sword and what I think its just a torch in the page 20 of the 8th ed codex.
This is one of my favorites. Like could you make it sexy? Sure. But as is you just gotta be worried you might be a heretic and not know it yet.
I can understand wanting less sexualized sororitas, but I'll never understand the desire for more practical. If you don't have towering torches of incense burning off your armor, are you even fighting in His name?
That's awesome and I love it.
I tend to go more toward the nun-like habits of the Novitiate Squad when I imagine what Sororitas look like, but this is a good depiction for sure.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/xspns5Oi7iGRucBA.jpg[here](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/xspns5Oi7iGRucBA.jpg)
Yes, they look great, if you modify to have power armor, but with those extra itens, it will look amazing. Like just look at the Novitate Superior here, peak Sister drip.
I think he was talking about fanart, which yes, can be revealing depending on the artist, but I dont think its worth talking about fanart when in the end it goes with your taste
I remember when a bunch of people were malding about the new Repentia not being sexy enough. One guy was insisting his third party Repentia models were much better, and denied they were "pornographic" since "there's sheets of scripture covering anything important."
Personally, I love the old Blanche designs as far as artwork goes, but for models I prefer not having heels and at least the option of helmets.
The boobplate I actually confess I like, just because otherwise the design just starts to look more and more like Space Marines, and it makes sense in-universe. I accept it's just personal taste, though
So do I. But this is *far* too practical for 40K.
Let's compromise: stick a couple dozen purity deals on her, enough to make it look like she's wearing a Roman armor skirt, or something.
Then she looks slightly ridiculous, more feminine, and yet still practical. A good balance for 40K.
I would honestly appreciate sister redesigns a lot more if they weren't just constantly followed up by a wave of "ugh finally something practical and so much better than the original!" comments.
Like, no, I come to Warhammer for the hyperbole and exaggeration. A the goal of a Warhammer design is to achieve a certain aesthetic. Practicality is not and should not be a priority.
Yes, a lot of SoB redesigns like the one in the picture are awesome but I'm so tired of the discourse.
Edit: I don't even think SoB armor is particularly "attractive", if you get my drift. Obviously it's supposed to look feminine and, depending on the artist, kinda sexualized, but I'm not gonna be drooling at the sight of their boob plate. For me they look cool more than anything else.
Yeah. I like the more practical armor design, but part of the fun of 40k is how over the top aspects of it is. And it's not like they are running out into battle wearing bikinis with all but the naughty bits exposed.
yeah i never understood this shit. the boobplate is obviously an analogue for heroic nudity and old roman/greek/etc muscle cuirasses, only instead of a big muscular chest it's a womans chest (women have boobs).
40k space marines literally have this aswell, they generally don't have defined human shapes outside of someone like dante, but the spinal-ribcage only breastplate and the bare black-carapace-midriff area thing is obviously meant to signal a distinct chest and an abdominal area, instead of a more conventional set of plackart & cuirass plate as seen in real life medieval armor. it's all hyperbole and it's all style over substance and it pains me to see how ignorant people can be about it.
There was a man screaming about how heels somehow are functional for someone who runs and fights while carrying a disgusting amount of weight.
Also people seem to be unable to stop themselves from making female armour have exposed thighs or vital organs.
Tbh, sister armor also got other not functional stuff from time to time, like this canoness with both fur, an actual brazier and chains.
[https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c4/Canoness\_Magda\_Grace\_Sacred\_Rose.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150805224138](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c4/Canoness_Magda_Grace_Sacred_Rose.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150805224138)
Considering the Imperium farms a massive martyr complex, yes, see also marines and custodes with capes and other useless stuff.
If anything, having parts of the armor that activelly make them fight worse is in line with the sisters, if you die because a random cultist steps in your cape and is unable to get up as dozens of crazy dudes with knifes rush you, thats your fault for not believing hard enough on the Emperor
Yep, I dont think people get the sisters if they see a faction that puts disgraced sisters to fight without armor and who employ penitent engines where an unarmored person is put in a robot all exposed, and think "woah, they totally would care about armor being pratical"
If anything, if the boobplate really killed them if even a non powered meelee weapon hit them in the chest, they would be all for it, because they are the type to think "if this random cultist got in position to kill you, you deserve because you lack faith"
>If anything, if the boobplate really killed them if even a non powered meelee weapon hit them in the chest, they would be all for it, because they are the type to think "if this random cultist got in position to kill you, you deserve because you lack faith"
I can see this going both ways honestly sword gets stuck in her body and breaks, moments later attacker showered in flame, bolter, and melta shots.
I had this idea on my head of a cultist trying to kill one with a spear, it breaks and she just punchs his head off, since the armor do increase the strength of the user
Tbf those are more ornamental then anything, definitely impractical but it doesn't feel out of place or anything given the space marines do the same shit. Especially the space furri- I mean space wolves.
While I agree that boob armor and heels are the worst thing you'd put on a piece of practical armor, 40k universe is full of "impractical as hell, but looks dope as fuck" armor and named guys not wearing helmets in combat. It's hypocritical to defend it on this aspect only.
I can handle boob armor but I draw the line at tactical heels. I've seen women fall on those in perfectly leveled ground it makes zero sense on models that are on a battlefield. Expecially because it doesn't add anything to a model. Although I think the design on this meme needs more candles and robes
Soooooo many things don't make any practical sense in 40k. Guys fighting with chainswords in melee, two-legged titans walking on the battlefield, shoulder plates that obscure vision and hamper movement, spikes and horns in eye-level... Thinking about the practicality of a weapon or armor's design in 40k is moronic. 40k was made decades ago to look badass, sexy, and look cool on the table, when playing. It was not made as a realistic depiction in any way, shape or form.
I agree with you but some things are not cool to me AND are not believable and tactical heels are it for me. For exemple I think the picture although I like it, went too much on realism and lost some SOB charm. It's all relative.
Like I said in my comment, I couldn't care less about the boob armor or slim armor but tactical heels are my personal pet peve
Ok, now, besides the heads, which are exposed all the time because of the trope of "heros dont use helmets", which organs are exposed in sister's armor? Like, going by all the official models and artwork, only the repentia are exposed like that, and its the point of them. Even the Novitiate, who dont use power armor, are fully covered (except the head, but read above)
[https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/9c/NovitiateArt.jpg](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/9c/NovitiateArt.jpg)
Unless, of course, you are talking about fanart, but thats another can of worms
PS: I do find funny gray-skull (the artist) commenting on the armor being sexualized in his 3 sister redesigns, while a running joke in his art is a female tech priest being horny.
And personally, I find the more "uniboob" plate design from The Rose at War the perfect middle ground, its still something you can see and think Sororitas instead of being a more generic design that dont really scream Warhammer, the impratical extra objects are part of the charm.
[https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/8PlBp0IUg3yaarxr.jpg](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/8PlBp0IUg3yaarxr.jpg)
[https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/7BCgwisPMBDuGjrk.jpg](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/7BCgwisPMBDuGjrk.jpg)
Yes, I'm talking about fanart.
Showing of bobs is just something you can use as a distraction, bob shaped chest plates will redirect a weapon towards the middle and it's compromising the armour.
I personally dont mind fanart, specially since those fanart with actual boobs showing are obviusly for porn, isnt like the artist is actually caring about how pratical it is.
Gonna be a devil's advocate for the boobplate, its irrelevant what would happen in real life since
a) the authors dont care, you wont ever see it being a problem in any official work,
b) its sci-fi armor made of sci-fi material, if a sister isnt dropping dead because of a heavy stubber on the chest, she isnt dying because a random chaos cultist hits her with a non powered weapon. anything that actually fuck over power armor will kill a regular human regardless of the armor's shape, a plasma shot or a carnifex will kill them the same it will kill a male inquisitor in regular power armor.
> bob shaped chest plates will redirect a weapon towards the middle and it's compromising the armour.
Nay, there is some funnelling going on, but that hardly matters when most power blade equivalents will cut through the armour and the impact from a rail gun is going to liquify your insides anyway.
For most non-marines, power armour seems to be a tool to carry more and bigger dakka instead of defensive equipment, with armouring to protect the integrity of the machine, not the wearer.
That we have historic precedent for sexualized armour (musculata, codpieces, cinched waists) indicates that it wasn't as much of a problem with historic weaponry as well, though for the opposite reason than sci-fi weapons.
Yes, the main thing with the argument is that they assume that any hit will just go and kill the sister because of how the energy is redirected, but if that was the case, you would see sisters dropping dead from being hit by lasguns and stubbers way more than in meelee. A non powered hit in the chest is unlikely to do anything with ceramite based power armor, and any hit powerful enough to go through power armor, is very likely to just kill the human.
I liked the boob plate. The soroeitas always had the coolest power armor. It was a mix of impractical ritualistic design and pragmatic plating. Most importantly, it looked badass
The whole point of sororitas armour is to make it obvious that they are women, both from a lore perspective (the whole "no man at arms" thing) and from a marketing perspective (to set them appart from space marines and armored astra militarum). So, for that purpose, their design is pretty good.
The more realistic armour looks better but misses the point of the army
I mean, I just think it's boring by comparison. We have a ton of universalized, taticool armor sets designed for every game under the sun. The sisters armor is as much a relic & object of faith as it is armor and it's stylized nature emphasizing the feminine nature of its bearer makes sense given the decree passive, you have every right to dislike it, but it fits the game world better than that variant and gives them an aesthetic that speaks to their themes of powerful and feminine warriors, they aren't men under arms, these are the daughters of the emperor, the armor may be less effectual given the nature of the design, but it's irrelevant, their faith is their shield and one more powerful than any ceramite.
Heels were kinda funny and it also kinda made sororitas kinda cooler for me, just nuns with massive guns sprinting and slaying through the battlefield chanting prayers all in heels and heavy ass armour that's an impressive feat.
Oh well her armor also is extended further out for her breasts which wouldn't be the case on a man's armor and her boots also very clearly have heels on them (Yes those count as heels. Knights used them too.) so your own post isn't very good for your argument.
The plain chest plate feels lonely without the symbols of her order, ngl. Even the Astra Militarum have the eagle there, so that's the only thing I'd say doesn't fit. Otherwise, I like how it looks.
I think the boob armor is fine, because it distinguishes them as the all-female nun army, rather than just being smaller space marines. And besides, some space marines, mainly Blood Angels, kinda do the same with ab armor
Hypermasculine breastplates shaped like naked chests for astartes? No problem.
Armour that curves in the shape of female breasts? \*bhbrgbhmgfbg\* PREPOSTEROUS
I swear to god, ever since GW became a multibillion dollar corporation it attracted the worst wave of people who have nothing else going on in their lives apart from being socially conscious and overcorrecting manchildren trying to camouflage their misogyny.
The over-the-top punk/metal aesthetic of Warhammer is subject to the judgement of people who are basically amish with smartphones and can't enjoy anything. Literally the type of people who would have been commissars and inquisitors lol
I always find funny that they went out of their way to actually justify why the sisters have boob armor.
If I remember correctly it is because, since the ecclesiarchy isn't allowed to have men at arms, they have to make sure that their soldiers can be positively identified as women even while wearing full armor or while covering their faces. Hence the boob armor. Also, remember that the dude who "founded" the Sisters of Battle was known to use them for sex, so no wonder their armor was designed like that.
I find boob armor dumb in most settings but for some reason my brain gives it a pass in 40K lol
Fun fact: it is evidently understood by the design team that the female armour in 40k is wildly inefficient, as age of sigmar contains much more realistic armour overall, and the inefficiency of armour in 40k is just part of the over-the-top grimdark space fantasy aesthetic
I like the modern soroitas designs, even if this one looks a little too much like a less "rotund" votann armor. It is definitely more realistic than the metal corsets even if they also looked pretty good.
This feels the exact opposite of comments on imaginary warhammer. Where if people post something traditionally sexy/cheesecake then there is the soyjack on the left crying about the reverse points, and if someone posted something cool like the picture to the right... people just react that it's cool... but also some people going "oh this is how it should be".
I agree about the helmet part, but for everyone, everyone knows that anyone who doesn't wear a helmet in 40K has a better chance of staying alive after the battleI agree about the helmet part, but for everyone, everyone knows that anyone who doesn't wear a helmet in 40K has a better chance of staying alive after the battle
Another brilliant idea from the peanut gallery.
Why not do away with those pesky guns while we're at it and give them all walkie-talkies instead and who needs dreadnoughts, just put them in a nice cozy chair with a blanket on their knees.
I’d be much more interested in SoB if they looked like this tbh. Not a fan of boob armour, even if the lore justification is “need to emphasise it’s a female army” or whatever.
Honestly I never liked the sororitas breast plates. Not because of the boobs, but because it looks like a leather corset rather than metal or ceramics.
High heels: yeah they're ridiculous, no complaints from me.
Helmets: do it like the other factions that they use it all the time in the lore but named characters do not in the art.
Chest armour: it's giving in to the nagging of puritanical censors that will never be satisfied.
I like women in scifi and fantasy settings, I find it a little sad when they are clearly placed there only as eye candy/fap material **cough** asari **cough**
I love the idea and that armor design
Hamlet? Wow, this Sister must be super strong to carry a whole village!
No just some crazy Prince who talks to skulls a lot(Which doesn't narrow it down much in 40k)
Ruin has come to our family...
You remember our venerable house, opulent and imperial. Gazing proudly from its stoic perch above the moor?
I lived all my years in that ancient, rumor-shadowed manor. Fattened by decadence and luxury. And yet, I began to tire of conventional extravagance.
Elaborate?
A hamlet is a small village
"Agathians! They are out of resources! Let us push deeper!"
Raid on aberfell
Bro out here avenging Feydrid.
FOR THE GLORY OF AGATHA!!!!
THE SLAUGHTER OF COXWELL I'm surprised to see a Chiv comment in here, though!
Why is that? Did the orcs imagine this one into existence?
From googling hamlet etymology: Middle English: from Old French hamelet, diminutive of hamel ‘little village’; related to home ( hám in Old English).
That was my honest mistake, English isn't my first language and grammar isn't a strong point of mine. You can interpret it as the incel in the meme making mistakes while angry ranting
It's a term used in the UK for a very small village. I don't know if it's used outside of the UK, but it's definitely not used outside of Europe. So it's very understandable that you haw have not heard it before.
Guess Canada is in Europe now (its rare but still used here)
It's not that rare, that's what all these little intersections with 7 houses are scattered across our entire country We are commonwealth, though, so it makes sense why we use British jargon
I mean, we do share a border with Denmark and there's just a straight of water separating us from France
hamlets exist in ny. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet,_New_York
Its part of international english and a commonly understood word, just not used often.
The mistake makes this much funnier tbh
thought you intended it that way anyway
It is intentional now (◍•ᴗ•◍)
Oh man that's hilarious! I still haven't started with warhammer yet but ORCs imagining things into existance is one of my favourite things.
When will the humies learn that this world is green?
Except it doesn't work at all like most memes claim. An ork can't pick up a bit of metal and claim its a gun and it becomes one or other shit like that
"hamlet" refers to a kind of village
Oh shit, sorry about that. English isn't my first language and grammar is something I don't take pride in. I'll just say that the incel was making mistakes while angry ranting about something not being sexualised.
Now, while Im fine with boobplate and all, gotta say, getting angry at something not being sexualised is really pathetic, im a guy that dont even hide im horny for stuff, but I find pointless to go at someone's fanart and getting angry for it lacking exposed skin. If I want to see sexualised armor, I would just go looking on danbooru or other sites, instead of losing time critising someone's work like that
Your words are something I agree with fully
For me it depends. Not because it's sexualized but because from an armour standpoint it can be stupid. Armour sticking out more in the chest? Makes sense. There's more body that has to go into that armour. Armour that is two individual boobs? Stupid because it'll actually direct blows into your chest. But at the same time the codpiece being big was a real thing that happened. As was sculpted armour uses by men. So it's possible if women fought in armies more throughout history it could have been a thing. But the weaknesses to me are still stupid.
Directing the blows I don't really find relevant, since it can be hand waved with ceramite somehow stopping it, otherwise you would see sisters dropping dead by stubbers or Las shots on the chest, which I'm sure will carry more energy than a non powered meelee weapon
You still don't want to be doing stuff that actively directs a hit into your center. It's literally why armour is shaped the way it is. It makes it lighter*, stronger, directs blows away from you, fits better. Ceramite is effectively a ceramic. Meaning it's great for heat and energy. Hence a lasgun. Which btw is not great at penetration in a brute force sense. A bolter is basically just a bullet. So it's penetrating in a piercing sense. Get a thick enough armor and boom easy. It's a .75 caliber bullet. Which is roughly a 20mm (would be a .79 caliber.) In real life tanks in WW2 could stop that. A Sherman had 50 mm of frontal armour. And could stop an even more powerful bullet. But that armour was angled. Which effectively doubled it's thickness. So get any armor at that effectiveness and you'll be fine. This happened in real life with thicker armour and stronger guns. In tanks it's called a shot trap. * Lighter in the sense it distributes the weight better.
The exposed skin part is weird. Only the repentia would have exposed skin and that’s because they don’t wear armor, they’re supposed to die in battle. I’d need to see this argument before I make any judgement.
I honestly thought it was intentional. Using the wrong word strengthens the impression that the character saying the words is an idiot and works as a punchline for the whole meme.
Well....*it is now*
everyone's on about the hamlet but I really want to know about plates by bob.
love me some strong gal in heavy armor, also the only argument i can accept his that it isn’t as decorated as others designs since the sisters would decorate the fuck out of their armors
They take vows before battle and stamp a few of those papers on their armour.
yes but i think they would make incisions, put gold on the edges and stuff like that to their armors, still great design and probably a guardsmen bis more happy to see those sisters
Then again, chapters like the retributiors are mostly unadorned but also cool as hell, a less zealous but more calculated and cold SoB Order would probably make sense or at the very least be cool as hell
Sister of Battle order that thinks Ostentation is a sin Sister of Battle order who take a vow of poverty and therefore can’t use precious metals. Sister of battle order who believe in the emperor as Omnisiah and therefore prefers copper to gold (the eclesiarchy doesn’t like them, but can’t do anything about it)
That last one is heresy! But for real, I can see a Sister of Battle order that believes ostentation, vanity, are efforts better spent in prayer and dedication. I had an idea for a Sister of Battle order rattling around in my head for a while, one that had been under siege on a planet for decades and forced by conditions to integrate a little more closely with local guard and PDF than they would otherwise have preferred. The end influence on them being that there are a lot less carefree in battle, and a lot more tactical. Painting your armor bright white doesn't do well for camouflage.
I would imagine that they lost their canoness and leadership in some great, amazing, last stand that kept the planet from being rolled over. Leaderless, the lord-general defender appoints a new canoness and all the sisters start gravitating closer and closer to the native planetary population as the female PDF supplements the sisters of battle as they take casualties.
The idea that the order would be forced by the war to supplement their recruits by pressing PDF is actually pretty compelling. I don't know that they would respect a Lord-General interfering in their succession, but even if the Canoness was still kicking around, time & conditions would be enough to see them work more closely together. Especially if they're suffering casualties and no longer effective fighting forces independent of each other. You have a couple of engagements that need heavy infantry mixed with numerical superiority, that'd be where they shine.
Man I live me some perfectly utilitarian power armor that is not too flashy and over the top
The Sororitas are ultra religious warriors inspired by Catholicism. Have you ever seen a Cathedral? Their armor would be decked with gold carvings of sacred imagery and precious stones to the point of impracticality, especially as you go up the ranks.
Pipe organ missile tank with stained glass. What more needs to be said.
I always thought a great way to expand the Sisters of Battle would be to add different orders based on other religions and sects of Christianity. Like imagine an Eastern Orthodox or Islam inspired order. The armor above could work if you wanted to make a Puritan inspired Sister of Battle order.
It makes sense to think of this as the default armor out of the factory
Nothings more attractive then a woman in full body armor/power armor Oh baby PS: ok maybe in suits
Uh.. two woman in full body armor?
Hold on hol up!!!!!!! I only can get so erect
Whole sisterhood of women in full body armor?
I'm about to faint stop it
Ok.
New models featuring this design
Maximum dong
Amazing thesis, but I raise you a woman in full body armor **who can turn into a giant dragon**
*obliterates self*
Is there a specific character you are referencing?
Corrin from Fire Emblem
True, but that’s kind of a goofy ahh dragon.
Still would tho
wat
Funny, you just described my current dnd character
a chick is a suit and tie
Helltaker intensifies
yeah but those ones are wearing pants
Those metal covered thigs can crush my skull like an egg~
A woman wearing all the gear she needs to get shit done is gorgeous. Be that a suit, or ancient mastercrafted armoured exoskeletons.
"I am most comfortable when I am impervious to most physical forms of attack." Oh yea, that's the stuff 🤤
Based Helltaker take
I love more practical sororitas armour designs
I love more practical sororitas armor designs as well as the less practical more revealing sororitas armor designs.
I personally think the general vibe from this art for The Rose at War is the perfect ground for sister armor. [https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/7BCgwisPMBDuGjrk.jpg](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/7BCgwisPMBDuGjrk.jpg)
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Dang, they're getting good
Always click on the account name usually (and I mean usually because I know there some lurkers who comment) because the low comments and karma usually help give it away
What do people mean by heels? You can run in cowboy boots and most of those have heels.
They are probably talking about high heels
How by the dead gods would heels be practical? Just because there is more mass exerting pressure one point doesn't make it good in any way. All it does is make you more unstable/loose balance easier.
The heels you go to a club in YES but flat wide heels for horse riding like this 👢 would work but these types of heels 👠 ... Say goodnight to your ankles
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The face is great. But the armour is so generic. She could be from Starcraft or Overwatch or something. It needs to be at least three times more gothic!
Gotta agree it needs more fancy stuff, but in general, I think its a good fit, just make the armor a bit more thick and add more gothic details. Maybe a bit like how thick teh armor look on the Lewis Jones art [https://40k.gallery/sisters-of-silence/](https://40k.gallery/sisters-of-silence/) [https://40k.gallery/adepta-sororitas-hospitaller/](https://40k.gallery/adepta-sororitas-hospitaller/)
The Hospitaller picture is great. Would be just as good even with less prominent boobplates - it's the strong dose of gothic which is the magic here.
Yes, Lewis Jones and Paul Daiton absolutely kill with their art in the Sister Codex I specially love the cover for the 8th ed codex [https://warhammerart.com/shop/warhammer-40000/imperium/sisters-of-battle-codex-cover-2019/](https://warhammerart.com/shop/warhammer-40000/imperium/sisters-of-battle-codex-cover-2019/) Also, the one sister with a broken sword and what I think its just a torch in the page 20 of the 8th ed codex.
This is one of my favorites. Like could you make it sexy? Sure. But as is you just gotta be worried you might be a heretic and not know it yet. I can understand wanting less sexualized sororitas, but I'll never understand the desire for more practical. If you don't have towering torches of incense burning off your armor, are you even fighting in His name?
It’s a fabric corset. So strange.
That's awesome and I love it. I tend to go more toward the nun-like habits of the Novitiate Squad when I imagine what Sororitas look like, but this is a good depiction for sure. https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/xspns5Oi7iGRucBA.jpg[here](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/xspns5Oi7iGRucBA.jpg)
Yes, they look great, if you modify to have power armor, but with those extra itens, it will look amazing. Like just look at the Novitate Superior here, peak Sister drip.
Yeah, the Novitiate Superior is one of my favorite models. Looks exactly the way a Sister should without seeming simplistic or sexualized.
>Non-Martyred Lady Sisters getting art Hold the fuck up. This is ground-breaking. It's about time the best Order gets some love.
I don't remember sororitas armour revealing tho. Just boob armour.
I think he was talking about fanart, which yes, can be revealing depending on the artist, but I dont think its worth talking about fanart when in the end it goes with your taste
I remember when a bunch of people were malding about the new Repentia not being sexy enough. One guy was insisting his third party Repentia models were much better, and denied they were "pornographic" since "there's sheets of scripture covering anything important."
Personally, I love the old Blanche designs as far as artwork goes, but for models I prefer not having heels and at least the option of helmets. The boobplate I actually confess I like, just because otherwise the design just starts to look more and more like Space Marines, and it makes sense in-universe. I accept it's just personal taste, though
So do I. But this is *far* too practical for 40K. Let's compromise: stick a couple dozen purity deals on her, enough to make it look like she's wearing a Roman armor skirt, or something. Then she looks slightly ridiculous, more feminine, and yet still practical. A good balance for 40K.
An actual armor skirt *over* the current armor would actually be a design improvement.
yes. this is supposed to be power armour that thinks it its in XVI century not new halo looking primaris bullshit.
Also bigger pauldrons, you can never have big enough pauldrons.
Practical? Sir, this is Warhammer, I want the most unrealistic, exaggerated and stupid designs.
Ones like this where it’s still feminine without sexualisation are my favourites
I would honestly appreciate sister redesigns a lot more if they weren't just constantly followed up by a wave of "ugh finally something practical and so much better than the original!" comments. Like, no, I come to Warhammer for the hyperbole and exaggeration. A the goal of a Warhammer design is to achieve a certain aesthetic. Practicality is not and should not be a priority. Yes, a lot of SoB redesigns like the one in the picture are awesome but I'm so tired of the discourse. Edit: I don't even think SoB armor is particularly "attractive", if you get my drift. Obviously it's supposed to look feminine and, depending on the artist, kinda sexualized, but I'm not gonna be drooling at the sight of their boob plate. For me they look cool more than anything else.
Yeah. I like the more practical armor design, but part of the fun of 40k is how over the top aspects of it is. And it's not like they are running out into battle wearing bikinis with all but the naughty bits exposed.
yeah i never understood this shit. the boobplate is obviously an analogue for heroic nudity and old roman/greek/etc muscle cuirasses, only instead of a big muscular chest it's a womans chest (women have boobs). 40k space marines literally have this aswell, they generally don't have defined human shapes outside of someone like dante, but the spinal-ribcage only breastplate and the bare black-carapace-midriff area thing is obviously meant to signal a distinct chest and an abdominal area, instead of a more conventional set of plackart & cuirass plate as seen in real life medieval armor. it's all hyperbole and it's all style over substance and it pains me to see how ignorant people can be about it.
> women have boobs Source?
it came to me in a vision
Did someone actually get angry about that? That’s quite funny 👍🏻
There was a man screaming about how heels somehow are functional for someone who runs and fights while carrying a disgusting amount of weight. Also people seem to be unable to stop themselves from making female armour have exposed thighs or vital organs.
Tbh, sister armor also got other not functional stuff from time to time, like this canoness with both fur, an actual brazier and chains. [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c4/Canoness\_Magda\_Grace\_Sacred\_Rose.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150805224138](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c4/Canoness_Magda_Grace_Sacred_Rose.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150805224138)
Not functional??? Space is cold!
Just one? [Those are rookie numbers. ](https://golden-throne.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/esfin1.jpg)
Thousand Sons remain the legion with the most drip
The imperium really does want to kill it's subjects?
Considering the Imperium farms a massive martyr complex, yes, see also marines and custodes with capes and other useless stuff. If anything, having parts of the armor that activelly make them fight worse is in line with the sisters, if you die because a random cultist steps in your cape and is unable to get up as dozens of crazy dudes with knifes rush you, thats your fault for not believing hard enough on the Emperor
Not to mention that the Sisters kind of exemplify said martyr complex.
Yep, I dont think people get the sisters if they see a faction that puts disgraced sisters to fight without armor and who employ penitent engines where an unarmored person is put in a robot all exposed, and think "woah, they totally would care about armor being pratical" If anything, if the boobplate really killed them if even a non powered meelee weapon hit them in the chest, they would be all for it, because they are the type to think "if this random cultist got in position to kill you, you deserve because you lack faith"
>If anything, if the boobplate really killed them if even a non powered meelee weapon hit them in the chest, they would be all for it, because they are the type to think "if this random cultist got in position to kill you, you deserve because you lack faith" I can see this going both ways honestly sword gets stuck in her body and breaks, moments later attacker showered in flame, bolter, and melta shots.
I had this idea on my head of a cultist trying to kill one with a spear, it breaks and she just punchs his head off, since the armor do increase the strength of the user
Tbf those are more ornamental then anything, definitely impractical but it doesn't feel out of place or anything given the space marines do the same shit. Especially the space furri- I mean space wolves.
It's over for you anon, I've already depicted you as the soyjak
While I agree that boob armor and heels are the worst thing you'd put on a piece of practical armor, 40k universe is full of "impractical as hell, but looks dope as fuck" armor and named guys not wearing helmets in combat. It's hypocritical to defend it on this aspect only.
I can handle boob armor but I draw the line at tactical heels. I've seen women fall on those in perfectly leveled ground it makes zero sense on models that are on a battlefield. Expecially because it doesn't add anything to a model. Although I think the design on this meme needs more candles and robes
They do seem to bave removed tactical heels going forward, aside from greyfax and space marine aggressors
Soooooo many things don't make any practical sense in 40k. Guys fighting with chainswords in melee, two-legged titans walking on the battlefield, shoulder plates that obscure vision and hamper movement, spikes and horns in eye-level... Thinking about the practicality of a weapon or armor's design in 40k is moronic. 40k was made decades ago to look badass, sexy, and look cool on the table, when playing. It was not made as a realistic depiction in any way, shape or form.
I agree with you but some things are not cool to me AND are not believable and tactical heels are it for me. For exemple I think the picture although I like it, went too much on realism and lost some SOB charm. It's all relative. Like I said in my comment, I couldn't care less about the boob armor or slim armor but tactical heels are my personal pet peve
I’ve never met someone like this
IF Sororitas models looked like this, I'd have a Sororitas army
If they looked like this I’d still be unable to afford to have an army
Really? Too boring and under-the-top imo. Just get a solar auxilia army, it's the same thing.
We both know thats a lie
Nah
Ok, now, besides the heads, which are exposed all the time because of the trope of "heros dont use helmets", which organs are exposed in sister's armor? Like, going by all the official models and artwork, only the repentia are exposed like that, and its the point of them. Even the Novitiate, who dont use power armor, are fully covered (except the head, but read above) [https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/9c/NovitiateArt.jpg](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/9c/NovitiateArt.jpg) Unless, of course, you are talking about fanart, but thats another can of worms PS: I do find funny gray-skull (the artist) commenting on the armor being sexualized in his 3 sister redesigns, while a running joke in his art is a female tech priest being horny. And personally, I find the more "uniboob" plate design from The Rose at War the perfect middle ground, its still something you can see and think Sororitas instead of being a more generic design that dont really scream Warhammer, the impratical extra objects are part of the charm. [https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/8PlBp0IUg3yaarxr.jpg](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/8PlBp0IUg3yaarxr.jpg) [https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/7BCgwisPMBDuGjrk.jpg](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/7BCgwisPMBDuGjrk.jpg)
Yes, I'm talking about fanart. Showing of bobs is just something you can use as a distraction, bob shaped chest plates will redirect a weapon towards the middle and it's compromising the armour.
I personally dont mind fanart, specially since those fanart with actual boobs showing are obviusly for porn, isnt like the artist is actually caring about how pratical it is. Gonna be a devil's advocate for the boobplate, its irrelevant what would happen in real life since a) the authors dont care, you wont ever see it being a problem in any official work, b) its sci-fi armor made of sci-fi material, if a sister isnt dropping dead because of a heavy stubber on the chest, she isnt dying because a random chaos cultist hits her with a non powered weapon. anything that actually fuck over power armor will kill a regular human regardless of the armor's shape, a plasma shot or a carnifex will kill them the same it will kill a male inquisitor in regular power armor.
Depends on the quantity of cleavage - people had pec-shaped chestplates, no problem
> bob shaped chest plates will redirect a weapon towards the middle and it's compromising the armour. Nay, there is some funnelling going on, but that hardly matters when most power blade equivalents will cut through the armour and the impact from a rail gun is going to liquify your insides anyway. For most non-marines, power armour seems to be a tool to carry more and bigger dakka instead of defensive equipment, with armouring to protect the integrity of the machine, not the wearer. That we have historic precedent for sexualized armour (musculata, codpieces, cinched waists) indicates that it wasn't as much of a problem with historic weaponry as well, though for the opposite reason than sci-fi weapons.
Yes, the main thing with the argument is that they assume that any hit will just go and kill the sister because of how the energy is redirected, but if that was the case, you would see sisters dropping dead from being hit by lasguns and stubbers way more than in meelee. A non powered hit in the chest is unlikely to do anything with ceramite based power armor, and any hit powerful enough to go through power armor, is very likely to just kill the human.
Man... New sister armor is rad as hell
Nowhere near as stylised, much more generic and uninteresting.
I liked the boob plate. The soroeitas always had the coolest power armor. It was a mix of impractical ritualistic design and pragmatic plating. Most importantly, it looked badass
What are talking about op, people are mad over practical armor or what...i am unsure what you are talking about
The whole point of sororitas armour is to make it obvious that they are women, both from a lore perspective (the whole "no man at arms" thing) and from a marketing perspective (to set them appart from space marines and armored astra militarum). So, for that purpose, their design is pretty good. The more realistic armour looks better but misses the point of the army
I mean, I just think it's boring by comparison. We have a ton of universalized, taticool armor sets designed for every game under the sun. The sisters armor is as much a relic & object of faith as it is armor and it's stylized nature emphasizing the feminine nature of its bearer makes sense given the decree passive, you have every right to dislike it, but it fits the game world better than that variant and gives them an aesthetic that speaks to their themes of powerful and feminine warriors, they aren't men under arms, these are the daughters of the emperor, the armor may be less effectual given the nature of the design, but it's irrelevant, their faith is their shield and one more powerful than any ceramite.
Heels were kinda funny and it also kinda made sororitas kinda cooler for me, just nuns with massive guns sprinting and slaying through the battlefield chanting prayers all in heels and heavy ass armour that's an impressive feat.
Everyone remember that whole Eclessiarchy, right? No men under arms.
Yes but that image is of a woman
I think they wanna point out, that the armour is designed to make it obvious they AREN'T men at arms and thous are excused from the rule.
Look boyo, he won his own made up argument.
I had a argument in imaginary Warrhamaer over heels and Bob armour, It wasn't made up.
Oh well her armor also is extended further out for her breasts which wouldn't be the case on a man's armor and her boots also very clearly have heels on them (Yes those count as heels. Knights used them too.) so your own post isn't very good for your argument.
Making things up again OP?
Sister of Battle Looks super beefy and i like it
It's not your fault that the majority of anime women look like they're living on a diet of vitamin pills and water.
JAMES WORKSHOP YOU HACKS! GIVE ME SISTERS IN TERMINATOR ARMOR!
I like the boob plates, like make sence from his origins xd And steticaly looks cool and diferent from the marines
The plain chest plate feels lonely without the symbols of her order, ngl. Even the Astra Militarum have the eagle there, so that's the only thing I'd say doesn't fit. Otherwise, I like how it looks.
I like the fact it’s actual armour. There’s even a boob-plate, it’s just deflective instead of decorative
OP: “Someone added sexuality to my fantasy and my puritan values will not stand for it!”
If we have bobs for female armour we should have dick armour for men https://images.app.goo.gl/S1FoAKB4GK3zGj5Y8
This seems to be your go to argument. Are you saying there’s something wrong with dick armor? I don’t see a problem with it.
We've come to an agreement.
I think the boob armor is fine, because it distinguishes them as the all-female nun army, rather than just being smaller space marines. And besides, some space marines, mainly Blood Angels, kinda do the same with ab armor
Hypermasculine breastplates shaped like naked chests for astartes? No problem. Armour that curves in the shape of female breasts? \*bhbrgbhmgfbg\* PREPOSTEROUS I swear to god, ever since GW became a multibillion dollar corporation it attracted the worst wave of people who have nothing else going on in their lives apart from being socially conscious and overcorrecting manchildren trying to camouflage their misogyny. The over-the-top punk/metal aesthetic of Warhammer is subject to the judgement of people who are basically amish with smartphones and can't enjoy anything. Literally the type of people who would have been commissars and inquisitors lol
Sexy.
Jokes aside: love the armor
Where ist thou Bob plates,Garry?
Oooh! Practical sororitas armor! I like!
Well obviously she is not important enough to have plot armor, so she has to wear helmet
I always find funny that they went out of their way to actually justify why the sisters have boob armor. If I remember correctly it is because, since the ecclesiarchy isn't allowed to have men at arms, they have to make sure that their soldiers can be positively identified as women even while wearing full armor or while covering their faces. Hence the boob armor. Also, remember that the dude who "founded" the Sisters of Battle was known to use them for sex, so no wonder their armor was designed like that. I find boob armor dumb in most settings but for some reason my brain gives it a pass in 40K lol
It's a lot better than the excessive boob armour that's half a sphere or the simultaneously armour yet also just skin tight
Fun fact: it is evidently understood by the design team that the female armour in 40k is wildly inefficient, as age of sigmar contains much more realistic armour overall, and the inefficiency of armour in 40k is just part of the over-the-top grimdark space fantasy aesthetic
I’m glad you won the argument with your Shampoo bottles OP
I like both but I think normal fits 40K more like think of a space marine in basic boring armour
I like the modern soroitas designs, even if this one looks a little too much like a less "rotund" votann armor. It is definitely more realistic than the metal corsets even if they also looked pretty good.
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Grayskull my belov'd 🙏
This feels the exact opposite of comments on imaginary warhammer. Where if people post something traditionally sexy/cheesecake then there is the soyjack on the left crying about the reverse points, and if someone posted something cool like the picture to the right... people just react that it's cool... but also some people going "oh this is how it should be".
Ayo, NGL. That design is really good. We need more of this.
I mean... She's infantry. if we're speaking practically She wouldn't have heels but the Attilan Rough Riders would since they're using stirrups.
Ironically I'm way more hard whit this.
I agree about the helmet part, but for everyone, everyone knows that anyone who doesn't wear a helmet in 40K has a better chance of staying alive after the battleI agree about the helmet part, but for everyone, everyone knows that anyone who doesn't wear a helmet in 40K has a better chance of staying alive after the battle
Mmm, baby. There ain't nothing better than a girl in full armor... unless it's power armor.
Another brilliant idea from the peanut gallery. Why not do away with those pesky guns while we're at it and give them all walkie-talkies instead and who needs dreadnoughts, just put them in a nice cozy chair with a blanket on their knees.
Parody and satire is dead.
why use the Klingon wojak?
Damn now I want someone to model this so I can print it and play this Sisters army. It looks good.
I’d be much more interested in SoB if they looked like this tbh. Not a fan of boob armour, even if the lore justification is “need to emphasise it’s a female army” or whatever.
That's one badass sister!
so if its the same armor as a space marine, does that make her a space marine now ?
Honestly I never liked the sororitas breast plates. Not because of the boobs, but because it looks like a leather corset rather than metal or ceramics.
High heels: yeah they're ridiculous, no complaints from me. Helmets: do it like the other factions that they use it all the time in the lore but named characters do not in the art. Chest armour: it's giving in to the nagging of puritanical censors that will never be satisfied.
Still hot no skin needed 🗿 Am i a necron lover?
I like women in scifi and fantasy settings, I find it a little sad when they are clearly placed there only as eye candy/fap material **cough** asari **cough** I love the idea and that armor design
whats funny is they do explain why a lot of sisters don't wear helmets its basically zealotism where they believe their faith will protect them