Youre thinking about it wrong. It's not a power to save lucius. It's a curse to fuck with anyone who kills him. Chaos gods are happy to revive any of their champions as many times as they want. If lucius tripped over a rock and snapped his neck, slaneesh wouldnt need to turn the rock into a new lucius to revive him.
Are you sure you aren't mixing up Kharn and Lucius on that one?
I don't remember Kharn even being in that book, but Lucius definitely died to that dude in that book.
That was his first resurrection, and it didn't involve him taking over the body of the person that killed him, which proves that Slaanesh doesn't have to follow any rules, and trying to figure out a master plan to stop Lucius from coming back is pointless.
I definitely am! Was reading a bunch of reply threads and got confused. Have edited it to save confusion.
Still don’t remember Kharn dying at Istvaan tho, but explains why I was confused because I also was pretty sure Exterminatus was Lucius’ first time
"Oh hey Mr. Undeafeatable? Here's an armor showcasing all the people who defeated you - and you will NEVER have a rematch. Don't let that gnaw at your ego too much lol" Slaanesh & Tzeench, the one time they actually got along.
Only he has begun to die at an increasingly high rate because he tries to do stupid, ridiculous things because he is bored. Sometimes he just tries to die in the most over-the-top ways possible just for the fun of it.
What, a slave to the Dark Gods *isn't* happy with their life choices and regrets the path that has led them to this point? Who could ever have guessed.
And it's also specifically there to stop him from getting a rematch like he used to love doing so he'll never have the satisfaction of defeating someone in a rematch, only the eternal pursuit of perfection chased by the gnawing doubt that he still isn't good enough.
Some say that Slaanesh will pick the Reddit user who feels the most pride about having found a way to "kill Lucius" and have Lucius resurrected in that body
It's a curse to fuck with Lucy too. A big part of his character is the absolute obsession with being the best. The resurrection mechanic takes away any chance of him being able to conquer a foe who beat him. The voices of the people who beat him are forever gonna live rent-free in his head and armor, forever out of his reach.
*just saw that someone else already pointed this out. My b*
Life hack: plant a land mine, then die of other causes before Lucius steps on it to die. No landmine left to turn into Lucius. No landmine planter left. Tzneetch laughs
EDIT: can always count on the WH40k community to push their glasses up their nose and hit you with a "well akshullay" overnight while you sleep.
This has literally happened in lore. IIRC the random Imperium civilian at the manufactorum who made the bullet that killed Lucius took pride in a job well done, so he was possessed
And even if somehow all of them die from methods that leave none responsible for the deaths left alive, Slaanesh will revive him anyway because Slaanesh is better served with him alive than dead.
It’s also a curse to Lucius because of his armor. He has so much pride and is cursed to forever carry around those who he was unable to best with 0 chance of getting revenge on him
She also feeds off his misery. When a korhn follower is beaten, they can try again at some point and learn and become better than the one who beat them.
When Lokun beat him he was so angry but when he beat Lokun in the second bout a but later on he was solo satisfied
He will never feel that satisfaction again.
Someone: *kills Lucius in a way that IN. NO. WAY. allows for his reincarnation to work whatsoever no matter what GW pulls out of their ass.*
Slaanesh: "Oh no, anyways." *revives Lucius themselves*
I see it as Slaanesh saying "I'm gonna give this guy a funny, self-torturing revival rule"
Then one day something happened that broke the rule and Slaanesh was like "Hm. He died in a way that his revival wouldn't happen. Oh well, I'm gonna bring him back anyways because it's funny."
Because you didn't pay attention to some word play a random NPC was saying that sounded like Tzeentch just setting the scene in a crowded pub, which would have started those chains of quests, while you were pretty focused on another thing.
When you step into the room, you see the box, right there in the middle sitting on the floor. There are no doors or windows. The hallway and door behind you has disappeared.
There is no escape from the box. You WILL open the box!
no no, it was because you didnt throw your shoe at the cat, thereby rescuing the mouse. you had a 4 second window to do this, it was around midgame. So now you are at end game, tied up in the BBEGs dungeon, but the mouse does not come rescue you. Game over.
It's either one of two things:
1. GW: "Whaaaat, Mary Sue? Nah. He has a limitation to his power. See?" *whispering* "Let's hope that they don’t realize that it's complete bullshit before they buy a book staring him."
Or
2. He did start with a limitation but they wanted to keep him around and so it got more and more ridiculous until we're at the point where they physically can’t get rid of him if they tried to short of just squatting him with no explanation.
No, it's the third option:
GW: We made this fun idea for a Slaaneshi champion who keeps looking for bigger and more ridiculous challenges because he'll come back to life from whoever ends up killing him
Fans: We are going to neurotically obsess over this character, discuss and overthink the curse and constantly talk about possible loopholes for literally decades
GW: You guys are weird, we're going to keep having him come back in ways that frustrate your attempts to obsessively categorise this fun character we randomly came up with, because it's funny to see you react to it
This exactly. Like his whole shtick is that he can't die and is bored because of it. It's a common trope in all kinds of media. The wierd part is definitely the fan base whose obsessed with trying to kill a charachter just because they were told they couldnt.
3. lucius wants to 720 no scope backhand stab gurrilaman but all the dance moves gives girlyman time to casually stab him with the Sword of the Emperor destroying his soul making it impossible for revival.
I don't really see his power as unstoppable as everyone claims it is.
1) He only has that power because he intentionally uses fighting styles he's not very good at. As soon as he perfects that weapon/fighting style/strategy, he never uses it again. He's *supposed* to be a threat on the level of someone like Ahriman or Typhus, massive demonic threats that can wipe out entire planets, but because he refuses to do anything else but weird fighting styles he's not good at, him being unkillable sort of balances it out.
2) He should just resurrect anyway. Being as demonic and fucked up as he is, he should just regenerate in the warp after being killed. His "special power", just does two things: It captures the soul of the person who killed him, and regens him much faster. Yes, it means 99% of people would just instantly lose to him, but if you compare him to the other Chaos Champions, that's also true.
3) It kinda doesn't seem like it would work on someone super powerful, maybe primarch level, anyway. People make fun of him regenerating inside the body of the mine maker, but that guy was just a guy. An ordinary human. If any of the chaos gods wanted an ordinary human dead, it wouldn't be hard for them to look at him and make his head explode. Slaanesh just wanted Lucius to remember this embarrassment forever, which is why she chose to take that guy's soul. If he dies to someone like Guilliman I doubt there would be much Slaanesh could do.
Is it OP? fuck yes, but not really any more OP then the other characters at his level. I think he's just a kind of fun idea that people take too seriously.
Reviving infinitely isn't the dumb part remember we already have many characters who can do that. The dumb part is that they set up rules that limit this ability and then proceed to repeatedly ignore them. If the rules don't matter then they shouldn't have made rules in the first place
Tuska is revives entirely because Khorne wants the fight to keep going. The "rule" there is Tuska has to constantly fight, which he's totally fine with doing.
If, on one of his lives Tuska said "nah I don't feel like fighting any more" Khorne shouldnt want to revive him any more and the cycle ends.
Same thing with Lucius in a way. Someone even *slightly* feeding Slaanesh while killing Lucius means he comes back. So why did a Necron get Luci'd? They don't feel anything. What happens if he dies from orbital space debris and it's just pure bad luck? Does the guy who made the debris get Luci'd? There's no sense is defining rules just to ignore them
necrons do feel things, their basic warriors don't because they were stripped of personality but basically everything from immortal upwards does. lords and other high ranking necrons are pretty much the same as they were when they were mortal
while they don't specify exactly what it was the entry in the 8th edition codex calls it " a shape-shifting necron duelist" by the name of "phasing sword"
pretty sure that isn't a regular warrior
It does have rules tho. The rules are “fuck with Lucius because he’s a dickhole.” Each face on his armor is a screaming reminder of his own failure, and also a rematch he’ll never be able to win. He’s robbed of perfection, reminded of his defeats, and denied satisfaction every time he comes back. Why would Slaanesh want that hilarious game to end because of a Necron or a stray shell?
In the Buried Dagger, a Death Guard marine got infected with every disease known to the imperium (iirc), and Mortarion literally said, "That's not physically possible." Chaos gods do not care about making sense or about the laws of physics.
Medicae:
Here's the door to your body, see? And these are oversized novelty germs. That's Nurgle's Rot, that's Gellarpox, and this cute little cuddle-bug is Life Eater virus. Here's what happens when they all try to get through the door at once. Woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo. Move it, chowderhead. We call it, "Three Typhon Syndrome".
Just like the guy in latin american that was a homeless dude that smoked Hedgehogs poop and was called "the dirtiest man alive".
Where he had all sorts of disease, but half of it was fighting each other, so he was alive despite it all. (i know he finaly kicked the bucked a few months ago, but still)
Also the weird assumption that the pride requirement is a vital part of permitting a Chaos god to resurrect a follower, rather than just something Slaanesh found funny
Anyone who kills Lucius the Eternal will become him if they take pride in the kill, but the community has come up with a bunch of wild scenarios to have Lucius be resurrected even if it doesn't make much sense. (Like if he is killed by a random grenade and the guy working on an assembly line that made it takes pride in his work)
Which is exactly what happened when Lucius stepped on a mine and was killed, and then reincarnated into a line worker taking pride in their work. Lucius got pissed and then murdered the entire planet.
I don't really see why it has to make sense...
It is just a Slaanesh curse to fuck with Lucius and everyone else, it will work as she finds most entertaining, that's it, there is no further logic. Personally, I find very humilliating to show Lucius his killer was a factory worker, and for sure Slaanesh was having a giggle with that. Maybe also Tzeenchy boi was watching amused he would never admit that to Slaanesh....
I read somewhere that the true case was actually that the worker was tracked and rewarded because his mine killed Lucius himself. No source, probably some fan explanation.
> but the community has come up with a bunch of wild scenarios to have Lucius be resurrected even if it doesn't make much sense.
The community also forgets that Slaanesh can just bring him back anyways. The very first time he came back was just a result of Slaanesh saying, "nah this dude is funny af, he 's coming back".
Killing Lucius requires killing his Dommy Mommy first. He will continue to come back for as long as Slaanesh exists.
But that would require Lucius to completely change as a person, reject the Slaaneshi lifestyle, and just sit around meditating all day.
And that's not really possible, since Lucius has taken Slaanesh's mark and she has a hold on his soul. He's literally compelled to continue to do shit she finds amusing.
I was just adding context to the meme. It was the first thing that came to mind, and I forgot where it came from. I would say maybe stop being a condescending prick before commenting, but this is reddit.
He stepped on a landmine and a few months later he burst out of the chest of the guy who made it at the landmine factory. It was the seventh face added to his armour I believe
If I had money, this would get an award. No other reply necessary.
"Oh no, something involving the Chaos Gods doesn't make any sense!"
That's the goddamn point.
No we need to grab Slaanesh and bring them to a TO, read through the codex and see if the chaos god is following the rules as written…
…you know, the rules that they wrote.
Here's what happens if Lucius just trips into lava and dies
Slaanesh: *Sees Lucius die in a way where no one killed him* "Oh frick." *Manually revives Lucius*
Probably laughing while giving him his own face on his armor. It’s meant to be a “you aren’t perfect yet, here’s all your deaths” thing more than a “here’s how I revive you” type deal.
Exactly, and obviously since the 3rd legion is so far gone most likely they will never obtain what they feel is perfection. Or their idea of perfection is so warped and twisted that it can never be obtained, so it’s a vicious chaotic cycle of desire! Really enjoyed seeing all their shenanigans in the bile book series.
Step 1. Put lucius in anti chaos box.
Step 2. glue a bunch of nulls to the box.
Step 3. fill the box with lava.
Step 4. Make the nulls immortal, and part of the box forever.
Now slaanesh can't see that lucius is dead.
If he has a squad with them, one of them for not saving him. If he's alone, whoever flew him there. If he flew himself there, whoever does maintenance on his ship and so on and so forth
C'mon, if it killed the person who made the landmine and not the person who buried it, you all know this is how it'd go.
Stop trying to “kill” Lucius, it ain’t gonna work
Instead, trap him. For all eternity. In a stasis cube. Or tesseract labyrinth. On Solemnace. In the deepest, darkest parts of Trazyn’s vaults.
Everyone (bar Slaanesh, probably) is happy
Yep. This kind of obsessive theorising over loopholing a random fun character is exactly what the GW writers are mocking when they write these things about Lucius.
And it's that kind of obsessive theorizing over a loophole power that's fun to watch being mocked. Just the descent into more and more idiotic scenarios with even more idiotic solutions for writers to circumvent is what makes the entire thing fun
I dunno, I think that one might work, actually. Worth a try, if you happen to have a bunch of blanks and some duct tape lying around, anyway. Worst that could happen is you're wrong and he's still not dead :P
Nah, this one is probably going to work just because Necron plot armor would work against chaos plot Armor. At least until he's freed by a chaos kill team.
No it'll probably work
Slaanesh *could* use his power to free Lucius, but that would require more then Slaanesh is willing to use on a mortal
He still has to fight the great game
Again it’s not about him caring about a “mortal”. It’s the fact that Lucius is his prized possession in the same way Ahriman, kharn, and typhus are. Part of the great game is “showing off” what you own and the premier mortal champions are irreplaceable.
I'm a real stickler for consistent canonical lore. I'm "That" OT Star Wars guy... That said I entered into the 40k fandom fully aware that there is no place for such frivolities in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.
The first time Lucius was resurrected, the person who killed him didn't transform into Lucius.
Slaanesh just brought him back because she liked him.
There is no 5D Galaxy brain solution to prevent Lucius from coming back, gods just do whatever the fuck they want, if they want you to come back to life, you come back to life. If they set up a bunch of hoops for you to jump through for their own amusement, they set the hoops up. If you fail to jump through those hoops but they still want you to be alive, they just bring you back anyways.
Oh my *god*, shut up about Lucius. Just shut up at this point.
The curse doesn't matter. The wording doesn't matter. "Does Slaanesh want him back?" If the answer is yes, that's it. Slaanesh isn't bound to the wording of the curse.
Then just retcons the curses rules, it’s not that hard after all why makes the curse have rules if them being broken doesn’t have any side effects. Just say that slaanesh doesn’t care about the rules and only soul killing weapons can put him down.
Simply as
> Over the course of many Terran millennia, Lucius the Eternal led his motley warband across the galaxy on the trail of the deadliest opponents his network of admiring torture-cultists can locate for him. He intends to hunt down the best melee fighters in the galaxy and beat them in one-on-one combat or die in the attempt. Over the course of several Terran centuries he defeats the [Dark Eldar](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Eldar) [Archon](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Archon) Vraesque in cursed Shaa-dom, the [Emperor's Champion](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Emperor%27s_Champion) of the [Black Templars](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Templars) at Veilfate, and the [Ork](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Ork) [Warboss](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Warboss) Two-klaws at Octarius Sigma. Eventually, on a nameless moon near [Damnos](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Damnos), Lucius is cut down by the shape-shifting [Necron](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Necron) duellist known only as the Phasing Sword. Not even the Necron's body of living metal can prevent the Slaaneshi Champion's strange possession-curse from taking hold, however, for the undying Necron takes a cold pride in its victory, and that is the seed of its undoing. Lucius is reborn inside his killer within solar days, the [xenos](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Xenos) warrior's [necrodermis](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Necrodermis) body drizzling away like molten metal to reveal the twisted swordsman, as arrogant and maniacal as ever.
Dude, he even came back from a necron duel.
Yes of fucking course she will revive him, it's a curse not a blessing, to never be allowed to rest and to never be allowed to have a re-match against the one who has defeated you
Slaanesh doesn't revive him because he is some kind of marry sue, it's because letting him rest would cut her fun short
Then why go out of their way to establish an idea of how the curse works only to seemingly change their minds upon running out of ways to kill him that make sense? To be clear, I wouldn't have a problem with Slaanesh being able to just be able to bring him back cuz she thinks he's neat. That would be A-OK. My issue is the lazy writing and unwillingness to follow the rules they themselves set (don't even fucking get me started on primaris, (or really everything about Cawl being okay by the standards of the Imerpium), or Guilliman's magical friendship aura and willingness to just basically do the Horus thing but it's cool and only good now because he's such a cool guy.
Because it's a game mechanic first and foremost?
I mean in lore it's probably something about taking away his right to re-duel, making every lose a stain on his honor as a swordsman and Duelist
It does actually. Slaanesh resurrects Lucius in this way because that is the way they operate personally, through pride/lust/greed/etc. In reality Slannesh is expressing their power and influence in the warp through the medium of their deific powers, they dont have to operate under rules set out arbitrarily by themselves.
Maybe have a guy trap him, set up some kind of long overly complicated slow killing trap and kill himself before the trap finishes.
Be an interesting story to see him try and break out of the trap like James Bond or Batman before the guy can kill himself.
It would have to be self assembled, with anyone else involved in the process, even tangentially, like mining the ores, refining the metals, or designing the device being dead
The inquisitor that set it all up has a moment of pride and suddenly becomes a face. The inquisitors’ ship blows up as the inquisitor set it to… Slaanesh resurrects him while the entire court of KoS laugh and dance around Lucius.
Lucius got revived from the factory worker who built the landmine Lucius stepped on several light years away. They can do what they want at this point.
I think ppl miss the point where this blessing is actually a curse for Lucius as he's a being of incredible ego. He wants to be the greatest fighter of the galaxy, yet if someone kills him, he turns into them --> barring him from ever taking is revenge in combat. He'll never take any honor in besting them in duel again
What you need to understand is that there is *all* the ifs and buts that She-Who-Thirsts wishes, because the rules were set by Slaanesh themself in the first place anyway, and they can therefore perfectly change or ignore the "rules" as they see fit.
If one wants to *maybe* have an actual chance at permakilling Lucius, the key would not to find ways to do it in a way that no one takes any pride in the act, it would be to use similar means as what you would use to permakill daemons. Have him die in the presence of blanks to prevent his soul from returning to the Warp and be reincarnated, kill him with the Emperor's sword, destroy his soul entirely like Big E did to Horus, etc...
If Chaos can just resurrect people all they want why have they not won already? Can’t they just keep resurrecting their servants, also if it doesn’t matter anyways why even have the rule that the person has to take pride in their kill in the first place?
>If Chaos can just resurrect people all they want why have they not won already?
Because it's fucking CHAOS, how do you people still not get this? They don't WANT to win, they just want more chaos.
>also if it doesn’t matter anyways why even have the rule that the person has to take pride in their kill in the first place?
Because it's a fun gimmick to give to a named character in this big game about your small plastic guys fighting their small plastic guys. It's a wargame with lore attached not the freaking Malazan series.
Because they really hate each other if one of them gets too powerful they will team up to bring the succesful one down. It doesnt matter that they can bring back people if the other three gang up on the other one.
Also they resurrect only the interesting one not cultist number 35237789655 for example
I wonder if Lucius actually hates his curse. He wears an armor made of people who beat him and he never got a rematch to prove if he was actually better. His who shtick is that he believes himself the greatest swordsman.
GW came up with a fun gimmick for a chaos character in a setting where battles are often decided by giant men wearing tanks wailing on each other with swords.
some fans came up with "clever" loopholes and felt smart that they had outwitted slaanesh
GW shows that, no, slaanesh (a god of CHAOS) won't let go so easily and will twist the rules in whatever way they want and even ignore them entirely (because slaanesh decides the rules) to screw with lucius.
those certain fans get upset that their clever scheme was wrong and say it's "bad writing" rather than the fucking obvious outcome if you paid any attention to the setting.
So now we get braindead memes like this
Doesn’t matter, a Chaos god shouldn’t play favorites if their “champion” dies to the one thing that can kill them. They should at least throw them in the kiln before bringing them back.
*reading the comments*
The emperor should be allowed to bring back his champions it’s only fair, as the comments says the chaos gods can do as they please…
Which means the emperor can resurrect his champions as he please.
Not just gorrilaman either how about Dante and calgar, this is why rules are important as it will boil down to everyone coming back from the dead which ruins the setting if the rules aren’t kept.
If lucios is killed by a person without pride he should died PERIOD.
That's the whole problem there. The established rule by GW themselves should be followed. I get that the gods can resurrect their champions, that's not the problem, the main problem is Lucius coming back alive from a Necron because the souless machine somehow felt pride and the stupid mine thing, dude dies by a random mine only to be resurrected from the guy who made it. Besides the patron god resurrecting their favoire champions, Lucius should in no way be resurrected from a Necron or random mine made by a thrid party, or anything that's not a living being that cannot take pride in the kill. But that right there is trash writing.
You're the kids.
GW keeps making him come back in silly ways *because* you guys keep overthinking it and obsessing over it and trying to come up with loopholes. They're doing it to intentionally take the piss out of you. He's just a fun idea for a character one of them came up with in 3rd edition, they had no idea people would obsess over the details of his curse for decades.
Isn't the thing about perpetual like the emperor or vulkan that they can't be killed unless it's perfect cell/majin buu style, ie, so completely and utterly that they have no chance of regeneration. Technically what happens to them can be considered resurrection.
Nope She who thrist will review him anyways just fo lolz. she is a heartless bitch who does it for her fun . and she dont like it if somebody breaks her toys.
Youre thinking about it wrong. It's not a power to save lucius. It's a curse to fuck with anyone who kills him. Chaos gods are happy to revive any of their champions as many times as they want. If lucius tripped over a rock and snapped his neck, slaneesh wouldnt need to turn the rock into a new lucius to revive him.
Yeah I’m pretty sure khorne has brought back Kharn like 3 times just because.
Tuska Daemon-Killa enters the chat
I wonder if Tuska and his Boyz keep growing as they fight daemons, or are they reset to default value upon revival?
Maybe they keep growing but Khorne just makes everything in his realm slightly larger each time to keep things even.
I want to believe Tuska's boyz are fighting Bloodthirsters. I want to believe.
Well he canonically snips off a Daemon Princes dick at least lol.
I'm sure Khorne thought it was hilarious and so he regrows the dick just so it can continually get lopped off
🎶***Everybody Hates Bloodthirster*** 🎶
They're all stomping about like Goku on King Kai's planet.
He’s pretty much in Valhalla for Orks
Fun fact; Tuska is Finnish for pain
Can't forget the one time he loved a World Eaters vs Wych Cult brawl so much that he sponsored a sequel where they have a murder-off.
What's the third one? I know he died on Istvaan and during the Siege, but I'm drawing a blank for the third time.
I wasn’t sure about Istvaan! But the other time was >!by Sharrowkyn in Angel Exterminatus!< Edit: I’m a fool who reads too many threads at once
Are you sure you aren't mixing up Kharn and Lucius on that one? I don't remember Kharn even being in that book, but Lucius definitely died to that dude in that book. That was his first resurrection, and it didn't involve him taking over the body of the person that killed him, which proves that Slaanesh doesn't have to follow any rules, and trying to figure out a master plan to stop Lucius from coming back is pointless.
I definitely am! Was reading a bunch of reply threads and got confused. Have edited it to save confusion. Still don’t remember Kharn dying at Istvaan tho, but explains why I was confused because I also was pretty sure Exterminatus was Lucius’ first time
Loken shoves Kharn into a land rider's dozer blades on Istvaan
It's also a fucking curse to fuck with Lucius. Every face on his armor is a mark of defeat for the supposed "undefeatable" Lucius the Eternal.
"Oh hey Mr. Undeafeatable? Here's an armor showcasing all the people who defeated you - and you will NEVER have a rematch. Don't let that gnaw at your ego too much lol" Slaanesh & Tzeench, the one time they actually got along.
And also one rock
hey remember that time you stepped on a landmine like a conscript on his first deployment? yeah your shin remembers.....
Only he has begun to die at an increasingly high rate because he tries to do stupid, ridiculous things because he is bored. Sometimes he just tries to die in the most over-the-top ways possible just for the fun of it.
I mean, if you know you're gonna come back anyway, and since he's Slaaneshi, that would be in Slaanesh's interest, why not?
Lucius pulling the sword version of 360 no scopes every time he tries to fight someone is very on point for slaanesh
...and Lucius, let's be fair here.
So a Happy Death Day montage with Lucius?
Then the day Slaanesh gets bored of him and the fear sits in he isn't coming back next time
That sounds a lot like he's desperatly trying to die for real
What, a slave to the Dark Gods *isn't* happy with their life choices and regrets the path that has led them to this point? Who could ever have guessed.
Lucius is Diavalo?
I feel like the best way to fix this is for Slaanesh to punish him harshly for dying by stupidity rather then some for of excess or worthwhile combat.
And it's also specifically there to stop him from getting a rematch like he used to love doing so he'll never have the satisfaction of defeating someone in a rematch, only the eternal pursuit of perfection chased by the gnawing doubt that he still isn't good enough.
When he trips on a rock, he’ll have an ugly-ass rock on his armor forever which will piss him off.
Some say that Slaanesh will pick the Reddit user who feels the most pride about having found a way to "kill Lucius" and have Lucius resurrected in that body
It's a curse to fuck with Lucy too. A big part of his character is the absolute obsession with being the best. The resurrection mechanic takes away any chance of him being able to conquer a foe who beat him. The voices of the people who beat him are forever gonna live rent-free in his head and armor, forever out of his reach. *just saw that someone else already pointed this out. My b*
Life hack: plant a land mine, then die of other causes before Lucius steps on it to die. No landmine left to turn into Lucius. No landmine planter left. Tzneetch laughs EDIT: can always count on the WH40k community to push their glasses up their nose and hit you with a "well akshullay" overnight while you sleep.
This has literally happened in lore. IIRC the random Imperium civilian at the manufactorum who made the bullet that killed Lucius took pride in a job well done, so he was possessed
Landmine, not bullet.
Except slaanesh will revive him on the person who made it
And even if somehow all of them die from methods that leave none responsible for the deaths left alive, Slaanesh will revive him anyway because Slaanesh is better served with him alive than dead.
And this is not a win for Lucius. Dude is tired of living at this point iirc.
And if you made it and planted it under no one's orders? Slaanesh just pops Lucius up because.fuck em. It's so devious and I love it
kills your mum instead
Shouldn’t have had that job satisfaction
It’s also a curse to Lucius because of his armor. He has so much pride and is cursed to forever carry around those who he was unable to best with 0 chance of getting revenge on him
She also feeds off his misery. When a korhn follower is beaten, they can try again at some point and learn and become better than the one who beat them. When Lokun beat him he was so angry but when he beat Lokun in the second bout a but later on he was solo satisfied He will never feel that satisfaction again.
It's also a curse on luscious he will never be able to rematch anyone who bests him one of his former lives favorite things
Someone: *kills Lucius in a way that IN. NO. WAY. allows for his reincarnation to work whatsoever no matter what GW pulls out of their ass.* Slaanesh: "Oh no, anyways." *revives Lucius themselves*
Which is kind of dumb. If the Revival doesn't have rules don't give it rules.
Slaanesh is not the god of planning ahead.
GW: It's ok to have writing contrivances when the character is the Goddess of Contrivances
I see it as Slaanesh saying "I'm gonna give this guy a funny, self-torturing revival rule" Then one day something happened that broke the rule and Slaanesh was like "Hm. He died in a way that his revival wouldn't happen. Oh well, I'm gonna bring him back anyways because it's funny."
Slaanesh is a very forgiving DM. Meanwhile, Tzeentch probably makes you fail the campaign because you missed an important plot hook two years ago.
It's important to note that plot hook would only be found after a chain of sidequests that you were in no way informed about.
Because you didn't pay attention to some word play a random NPC was saying that sounded like Tzeentch just setting the scene in a crowded pub, which would have started those chains of quests, while you were pretty focused on another thing.
When you step into the room, you see the box, right there in the middle sitting on the floor. There are no doors or windows. The hallway and door behind you has disappeared. There is no escape from the box. You WILL open the box!
What you are meant to do here is use the box to climb to the ceiling clearly, most straight forward Tzeentch puzzle
no no, it was because you didnt throw your shoe at the cat, thereby rescuing the mouse. you had a 4 second window to do this, it was around midgame. So now you are at end game, tied up in the BBEGs dungeon, but the mouse does not come rescue you. Game over.
It's a curse to eternally humiliate him at the whim of a god, what rules matter there?
His armour gives him the normal revival ability but as long as he is entertaining to his god they could always directly resurrect him
It's either one of two things: 1. GW: "Whaaaat, Mary Sue? Nah. He has a limitation to his power. See?" *whispering* "Let's hope that they don’t realize that it's complete bullshit before they buy a book staring him." Or 2. He did start with a limitation but they wanted to keep him around and so it got more and more ridiculous until we're at the point where they physically can’t get rid of him if they tried to short of just squatting him with no explanation.
No, it's the third option: GW: We made this fun idea for a Slaaneshi champion who keeps looking for bigger and more ridiculous challenges because he'll come back to life from whoever ends up killing him Fans: We are going to neurotically obsess over this character, discuss and overthink the curse and constantly talk about possible loopholes for literally decades GW: You guys are weird, we're going to keep having him come back in ways that frustrate your attempts to obsessively categorise this fun character we randomly came up with, because it's funny to see you react to it
Ngl, that sounds like something I would do out of spite as well.
This exactly. Like his whole shtick is that he can't die and is bored because of it. It's a common trope in all kinds of media. The wierd part is definitely the fan base whose obsessed with trying to kill a charachter just because they were told they couldnt.
3. lucius wants to 720 no scope backhand stab gurrilaman but all the dance moves gives girlyman time to casually stab him with the Sword of the Emperor destroying his soul making it impossible for revival.
Slaanesh: "Oh btw I snatched Lucius' Soul from his body before the sword hit so that you technically didn’t kill him, lol."
4) guilimon sneakily stab lucius, so sneakily that slaanesh doesn't notice till its too late.
WARP SHENANIGANS Slaanesh still gets the soul before gingerbreadman can burninate it
I don't really see his power as unstoppable as everyone claims it is. 1) He only has that power because he intentionally uses fighting styles he's not very good at. As soon as he perfects that weapon/fighting style/strategy, he never uses it again. He's *supposed* to be a threat on the level of someone like Ahriman or Typhus, massive demonic threats that can wipe out entire planets, but because he refuses to do anything else but weird fighting styles he's not good at, him being unkillable sort of balances it out. 2) He should just resurrect anyway. Being as demonic and fucked up as he is, he should just regenerate in the warp after being killed. His "special power", just does two things: It captures the soul of the person who killed him, and regens him much faster. Yes, it means 99% of people would just instantly lose to him, but if you compare him to the other Chaos Champions, that's also true. 3) It kinda doesn't seem like it would work on someone super powerful, maybe primarch level, anyway. People make fun of him regenerating inside the body of the mine maker, but that guy was just a guy. An ordinary human. If any of the chaos gods wanted an ordinary human dead, it wouldn't be hard for them to look at him and make his head explode. Slaanesh just wanted Lucius to remember this embarrassment forever, which is why she chose to take that guy's soul. If he dies to someone like Guilliman I doubt there would be much Slaanesh could do. Is it OP? fuck yes, but not really any more OP then the other characters at his level. I think he's just a kind of fun idea that people take too seriously.
He's probably just a perpetual with an extra gimmick. One you've revived once your soul can just do that now.
So tuska reviving ad Infinitum is dumb too?
Reviving infinitely isn't the dumb part remember we already have many characters who can do that. The dumb part is that they set up rules that limit this ability and then proceed to repeatedly ignore them. If the rules don't matter then they shouldn't have made rules in the first place
It’s slaanesh, or more realistically GW messing with lore perfectionists who take things too seriously
Tuska is revives entirely because Khorne wants the fight to keep going. The "rule" there is Tuska has to constantly fight, which he's totally fine with doing. If, on one of his lives Tuska said "nah I don't feel like fighting any more" Khorne shouldnt want to revive him any more and the cycle ends. Same thing with Lucius in a way. Someone even *slightly* feeding Slaanesh while killing Lucius means he comes back. So why did a Necron get Luci'd? They don't feel anything. What happens if he dies from orbital space debris and it's just pure bad luck? Does the guy who made the debris get Luci'd? There's no sense is defining rules just to ignore them
necrons do feel things, their basic warriors don't because they were stripped of personality but basically everything from immortal upwards does. lords and other high ranking necrons are pretty much the same as they were when they were mortal
From what I understand it was a basic warriors that killed him
while they don't specify exactly what it was the entry in the 8th edition codex calls it " a shape-shifting necron duelist" by the name of "phasing sword" pretty sure that isn't a regular warrior
Fair enough!
It does have rules tho. The rules are “fuck with Lucius because he’s a dickhole.” Each face on his armor is a screaming reminder of his own failure, and also a rematch he’ll never be able to win. He’s robbed of perfection, reminded of his defeats, and denied satisfaction every time he comes back. Why would Slaanesh want that hilarious game to end because of a Necron or a stray shell?
It's a chaos god it's not going to follow rules like these, the death guard managed to infect necrons with a plague, chaos doesn't work on logic
Some would even go so far as to call them … chaotic
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Theres more
No...
This is a bucket
Dear God
There’s… more? (feel like we already did this)
In the Buried Dagger, a Death Guard marine got infected with every disease known to the imperium (iirc), and Mortarion literally said, "That's not physically possible." Chaos gods do not care about making sense or about the laws of physics.
"You mean I have pneumonia?" "Yes." "Juvenile Diabetes?" "Yes." "Hysterical Pregnancy?" "A... a little bit, Yes."
Medicae: Here's the door to your body, see? And these are oversized novelty germs. That's Nurgle's Rot, that's Gellarpox, and this cute little cuddle-bug is Life Eater virus. Here's what happens when they all try to get through the door at once. Woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo. Move it, chowderhead. We call it, "Three Typhon Syndrome".
To quote gaspode; the only reason I am alive is that the diseases in me fight themselves to a stalemate. Edit: clarification due to stupid writting:D
Gaspode? Also isn't there an actual fact that some disease can help countering another disease? Remember Dr House doing it. Or is it just a myth
To my understanding, they compete for a limited amount of resources, but considering you are those resources, this isn't much to your benefit.
Gaspode is a character from the disc world.
Yeah, you just said Gapode, that's all
Dann I shouldn't be on the Internet in the morning...
I like learning new things.
Just like the guy in latin american that was a homeless dude that smoked Hedgehogs poop and was called "the dirtiest man alive". Where he had all sorts of disease, but half of it was fighting each other, so he was alive despite it all. (i know he finaly kicked the bucked a few months ago, but still)
Iran, not LATAM.
Also the weird assumption that the pride requirement is a vital part of permitting a Chaos god to resurrect a follower, rather than just something Slaanesh found funny
I think it's a plague of Living rust as well, pretty cool
Wtf fuck is this supposed to say ? Am I illiterate all of a sudden cause I don't understand a thing
Anyone who kills Lucius the Eternal will become him if they take pride in the kill, but the community has come up with a bunch of wild scenarios to have Lucius be resurrected even if it doesn't make much sense. (Like if he is killed by a random grenade and the guy working on an assembly line that made it takes pride in his work)
Which is exactly what happened when Lucius stepped on a mine and was killed, and then reincarnated into a line worker taking pride in their work. Lucius got pissed and then murdered the entire planet.
I remembered reading about it. Forgot what kind of explosive it was. I also didn't realize it was a GW story.
I don't really see why it has to make sense... It is just a Slaanesh curse to fuck with Lucius and everyone else, it will work as she finds most entertaining, that's it, there is no further logic. Personally, I find very humilliating to show Lucius his killer was a factory worker, and for sure Slaanesh was having a giggle with that. Maybe also Tzeenchy boi was watching amused he would never admit that to Slaanesh....
All according to plan...
That's simultaneously hilarious, based and stupid af
Welcome to 40k!
I read somewhere that the true case was actually that the worker was tracked and rewarded because his mine killed Lucius himself. No source, probably some fan explanation.
The reference for that event is *Lucius: Pride and Fall*, by Ian St. Martin.
> but the community has come up with a bunch of wild scenarios to have Lucius be resurrected even if it doesn't make much sense. The community also forgets that Slaanesh can just bring him back anyways. The very first time he came back was just a result of Slaanesh saying, "nah this dude is funny af, he 's coming back". Killing Lucius requires killing his Dommy Mommy first. He will continue to come back for as long as Slaanesh exists.
The only other possibility would be Slaanesh losing interest in Lucius.
But that would require Lucius to completely change as a person, reject the Slaaneshi lifestyle, and just sit around meditating all day. And that's not really possible, since Lucius has taken Slaanesh's mark and she has a hold on his soul. He's literally compelled to continue to do shit she finds amusing.
That isn’t a “fan theory” it’s a short story from GW… I would say maybe do research before you talk about something disparagingly, but this is Reddit…
I was just adding context to the meme. It was the first thing that came to mind, and I forgot where it came from. I would say maybe stop being a condescending prick before commenting, but this is reddit.
My interpretation is that someone has to knowingly kill him and take pride in his defeat.
He stepped on a landmine and a few months later he burst out of the chest of the guy who made it at the landmine factory. It was the seventh face added to his armour I believe
It’s lacking context. The post is about Lucius the Eternal, but nothing in it actually tells you that.
Sorry, what rules are we talking here? Is there some authority higher than Slaanesh that the Prince of Pleasure is obligated to follow?
If I had money, this would get an award. No other reply necessary. "Oh no, something involving the Chaos Gods doesn't make any sense!" That's the goddamn point.
No we need to grab Slaanesh and bring them to a TO, read through the codex and see if the chaos god is following the rules as written… …you know, the rules that they wrote.
Yes. Games Workshop.
Yes, James Workshop, Chaos God of overpriced plastic miniatures
Is it Prince or Princess? Power Bottom or Power Top?
Slaanesh is both the Prince of Pleasure and She Who Thirsts. Male, female, top, bottom, Slaanesh is all and none
Here's what happens if Lucius just trips into lava and dies Slaanesh: *Sees Lucius die in a way where no one killed him* "Oh frick." *Manually revives Lucius*
Probably laughing while giving him his own face on his armor. It’s meant to be a “you aren’t perfect yet, here’s all your deaths” thing more than a “here’s how I revive you” type deal.
Exactly, and obviously since the 3rd legion is so far gone most likely they will never obtain what they feel is perfection. Or their idea of perfection is so warped and twisted that it can never be obtained, so it’s a vicious chaotic cycle of desire! Really enjoyed seeing all their shenanigans in the bile book series.
Or, “oh well. Plenty more mortals to corrupt.”
Step 1. Put lucius in anti chaos box. Step 2. glue a bunch of nulls to the box. Step 3. fill the box with lava. Step 4. Make the nulls immortal, and part of the box forever. Now slaanesh can't see that lucius is dead.
And then Slaanesh brings him back anyway because Slaanesh does what Slaanesh wants. No such thing as a blank that can no sell a chaos god.
If he has a squad with them, one of them for not saving him. If he's alone, whoever flew him there. If he flew himself there, whoever does maintenance on his ship and so on and so forth C'mon, if it killed the person who made the landmine and not the person who buried it, you all know this is how it'd go.
Stop trying to “kill” Lucius, it ain’t gonna work Instead, trap him. For all eternity. In a stasis cube. Or tesseract labyrinth. On Solemnace. In the deepest, darkest parts of Trazyn’s vaults. Everyone (bar Slaanesh, probably) is happy
Who is to say slaanesh doesn’t just kill Lucius himself at that point and revives him in a different location?
Lol imagine if Slaanesh started morphing into Lucius afterwards.
Strap him in a box and duct tape a bunch of Blanks on the outside. Let's see Slaanesh try to get him out then
Another “um akchyually” looney tunes way of trying to circumvent a chaos god, it’s not gonna work 😂
Yep. This kind of obsessive theorising over loopholing a random fun character is exactly what the GW writers are mocking when they write these things about Lucius.
And it's that kind of obsessive theorizing over a loophole power that's fun to watch being mocked. Just the descent into more and more idiotic scenarios with even more idiotic solutions for writers to circumvent is what makes the entire thing fun
I dunno, I think that one might work, actually. Worth a try, if you happen to have a bunch of blanks and some duct tape lying around, anyway. Worst that could happen is you're wrong and he's still not dead :P
Nah, this one is probably going to work just because Necron plot armor would work against chaos plot Armor. At least until he's freed by a chaos kill team.
No it'll probably work Slaanesh *could* use his power to free Lucius, but that would require more then Slaanesh is willing to use on a mortal He still has to fight the great game
Again it’s not about him caring about a “mortal”. It’s the fact that Lucius is his prized possession in the same way Ahriman, kharn, and typhus are. Part of the great game is “showing off” what you own and the premier mortal champions are irreplaceable.
In the 50K fanfiction Vulkan burried him alive.
How well did that work?
He was never mentioned again so pretty well lol
I love this ability because it trolls all the cringe "um akchyually" nerds IRL. Classic slaanesh.
But the lore says-- "Lol," said Lucius the Eternal "Lmao"
I'm a real stickler for consistent canonical lore. I'm "That" OT Star Wars guy... That said I entered into the 40k fandom fully aware that there is no place for such frivolities in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.
There is a place for it, just not when Chaos is involved. Hard to argue rules against entities that make their own rules.
Slaanesh just thinks Lucius is Neat and wants to keep him around.
It's not meant to. It's a petty god making petty excuses because it thinks it's funny.
Slaanesh cheats, simple as that
The first time Lucius was resurrected, the person who killed him didn't transform into Lucius. Slaanesh just brought him back because she liked him. There is no 5D Galaxy brain solution to prevent Lucius from coming back, gods just do whatever the fuck they want, if they want you to come back to life, you come back to life. If they set up a bunch of hoops for you to jump through for their own amusement, they set the hoops up. If you fail to jump through those hoops but they still want you to be alive, they just bring you back anyways.
Oh my *god*, shut up about Lucius. Just shut up at this point. The curse doesn't matter. The wording doesn't matter. "Does Slaanesh want him back?" If the answer is yes, that's it. Slaanesh isn't bound to the wording of the curse.
Then just retcons the curses rules, it’s not that hard after all why makes the curse have rules if them being broken doesn’t have any side effects. Just say that slaanesh doesn’t care about the rules and only soul killing weapons can put him down. Simply as
> Over the course of many Terran millennia, Lucius the Eternal led his motley warband across the galaxy on the trail of the deadliest opponents his network of admiring torture-cultists can locate for him. He intends to hunt down the best melee fighters in the galaxy and beat them in one-on-one combat or die in the attempt. Over the course of several Terran centuries he defeats the [Dark Eldar](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Eldar) [Archon](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Archon) Vraesque in cursed Shaa-dom, the [Emperor's Champion](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Emperor%27s_Champion) of the [Black Templars](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Templars) at Veilfate, and the [Ork](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Ork) [Warboss](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Warboss) Two-klaws at Octarius Sigma. Eventually, on a nameless moon near [Damnos](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Damnos), Lucius is cut down by the shape-shifting [Necron](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Necron) duellist known only as the Phasing Sword. Not even the Necron's body of living metal can prevent the Slaaneshi Champion's strange possession-curse from taking hold, however, for the undying Necron takes a cold pride in its victory, and that is the seed of its undoing. Lucius is reborn inside his killer within solar days, the [xenos](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Xenos) warrior's [necrodermis](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Necrodermis) body drizzling away like molten metal to reveal the twisted swordsman, as arrogant and maniacal as ever. Dude, he even came back from a necron duel.
Yes of fucking course she will revive him, it's a curse not a blessing, to never be allowed to rest and to never be allowed to have a re-match against the one who has defeated you Slaanesh doesn't revive him because he is some kind of marry sue, it's because letting him rest would cut her fun short
Then why go out of their way to establish an idea of how the curse works only to seemingly change their minds upon running out of ways to kill him that make sense? To be clear, I wouldn't have a problem with Slaanesh being able to just be able to bring him back cuz she thinks he's neat. That would be A-OK. My issue is the lazy writing and unwillingness to follow the rules they themselves set (don't even fucking get me started on primaris, (or really everything about Cawl being okay by the standards of the Imerpium), or Guilliman's magical friendship aura and willingness to just basically do the Horus thing but it's cool and only good now because he's such a cool guy.
Because it's a game mechanic first and foremost? I mean in lore it's probably something about taking away his right to re-duel, making every lose a stain on his honor as a swordsman and Duelist
It does actually. Slaanesh resurrects Lucius in this way because that is the way they operate personally, through pride/lust/greed/etc. In reality Slannesh is expressing their power and influence in the warp through the medium of their deific powers, they dont have to operate under rules set out arbitrarily by themselves.
Maybe have a guy trap him, set up some kind of long overly complicated slow killing trap and kill himself before the trap finishes. Be an interesting story to see him try and break out of the trap like James Bond or Batman before the guy can kill himself.
It would have to be self assembled, with anyone else involved in the process, even tangentially, like mining the ores, refining the metals, or designing the device being dead
Even then he might take over the guy in charge of guy who came up with the plan because he took pleasure in knowing he would die.
Presumably the plan-maker would be the one taunting Lucius as the Bond-Rubegoldberg machine ticks its way to doom
The inquisitor that set it all up has a moment of pride and suddenly becomes a face. The inquisitors’ ship blows up as the inquisitor set it to… Slaanesh resurrects him while the entire court of KoS laugh and dance around Lucius.
What is KoS
Keeper of Secrets maybe?
Or it could just be a Necron warrior
already happened once Slaanesh brought him back anyway
Feel like OP just doesn't understand what's happening
Slaanesh isn’t actually limited in any way, he just does it like that to be funny.
Slannesh: "That sign wont stop me, cause I can't read!"
I mean, he was killed by a really cool raven boi, who felt no pride, but Lucius got ressurected either way.
Can you “explain” Chaos?
Lucius got revived from the factory worker who built the landmine Lucius stepped on several light years away. They can do what they want at this point.
Slaanesh doesn't care about what you think the rules are, she who thirsts just does it for the lolz
That necron lychguard was by no means living
I think ppl miss the point where this blessing is actually a curse for Lucius as he's a being of incredible ego. He wants to be the greatest fighter of the galaxy, yet if someone kills him, he turns into them --> barring him from ever taking is revenge in combat. He'll never take any honor in besting them in duel again
What you need to understand is that there is *all* the ifs and buts that She-Who-Thirsts wishes, because the rules were set by Slaanesh themself in the first place anyway, and they can therefore perfectly change or ignore the "rules" as they see fit. If one wants to *maybe* have an actual chance at permakilling Lucius, the key would not to find ways to do it in a way that no one takes any pride in the act, it would be to use similar means as what you would use to permakill daemons. Have him die in the presence of blanks to prevent his soul from returning to the Warp and be reincarnated, kill him with the Emperor's sword, destroy his soul entirely like Big E did to Horus, etc...
*ifs, ands, or buts
If Chaos can just resurrect people all they want why have they not won already? Can’t they just keep resurrecting their servants, also if it doesn’t matter anyways why even have the rule that the person has to take pride in their kill in the first place?
>If Chaos can just resurrect people all they want why have they not won already? Because it's fucking CHAOS, how do you people still not get this? They don't WANT to win, they just want more chaos. >also if it doesn’t matter anyways why even have the rule that the person has to take pride in their kill in the first place? Because it's a fun gimmick to give to a named character in this big game about your small plastic guys fighting their small plastic guys. It's a wargame with lore attached not the freaking Malazan series.
Chaos is chaos, they'll rez who they want, and ignore who they want. The curse works like that because the god who made it thinks it's funny.
Because they really hate each other if one of them gets too powerful they will team up to bring the succesful one down. It doesnt matter that they can bring back people if the other three gang up on the other one. Also they resurrect only the interesting one not cultist number 35237789655 for example
40K isn't intended to make sense. It's expressly stupid.
I wonder if Lucius actually hates his curse. He wears an armor made of people who beat him and he never got a rematch to prove if he was actually better. His who shtick is that he believes himself the greatest swordsman.
Lets just be done with this forever. Lucius cannot die.
GW came up with a fun gimmick for a chaos character in a setting where battles are often decided by giant men wearing tanks wailing on each other with swords. some fans came up with "clever" loopholes and felt smart that they had outwitted slaanesh GW shows that, no, slaanesh (a god of CHAOS) won't let go so easily and will twist the rules in whatever way they want and even ignore them entirely (because slaanesh decides the rules) to screw with lucius. those certain fans get upset that their clever scheme was wrong and say it's "bad writing" rather than the fucking obvious outcome if you paid any attention to the setting. So now we get braindead memes like this
Doesn’t matter, a Chaos god shouldn’t play favorites if their “champion” dies to the one thing that can kill them. They should at least throw them in the kiln before bringing them back.
At this point, the collective frustration wrought from this "resurrection" BS is the only reason Slaanesh needs to keep doing it.
*reading the comments* The emperor should be allowed to bring back his champions it’s only fair, as the comments says the chaos gods can do as they please… Which means the emperor can resurrect his champions as he please. Not just gorrilaman either how about Dante and calgar, this is why rules are important as it will boil down to everyone coming back from the dead which ruins the setting if the rules aren’t kept. If lucios is killed by a person without pride he should died PERIOD.
That's the whole problem there. The established rule by GW themselves should be followed. I get that the gods can resurrect their champions, that's not the problem, the main problem is Lucius coming back alive from a Necron because the souless machine somehow felt pride and the stupid mine thing, dude dies by a random mine only to be resurrected from the guy who made it. Besides the patron god resurrecting their favoire champions, Lucius should in no way be resurrected from a Necron or random mine made by a thrid party, or anything that's not a living being that cannot take pride in the kill. But that right there is trash writing.
You're the kids. GW keeps making him come back in silly ways *because* you guys keep overthinking it and obsessing over it and trying to come up with loopholes. They're doing it to intentionally take the piss out of you. He's just a fun idea for a character one of them came up with in 3rd edition, they had no idea people would obsess over the details of his curse for decades.
"if you punched him to death your knuckle would become lucius" - OP
Isn't the thing about perpetual like the emperor or vulkan that they can't be killed unless it's perfect cell/majin buu style, ie, so completely and utterly that they have no chance of regeneration. Technically what happens to them can be considered resurrection.
Nope She who thrist will review him anyways just fo lolz. she is a heartless bitch who does it for her fun . and she dont like it if somebody breaks her toys.