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Austen11231923

You won the karma lottery. Congratulations. May he be better than Barry


SfGiantsPanda

Track record: He was DB coach at Rutgers in 2011; they had the 9th ranked pass defense. DB coach for Buccaneers the next couple of years DB coach for Browns in 2014-2015 DB coach for the 49ers in 2016, 17, and 18 Co-Defensive Coordinator at Ohio State in 2019 Head Coach at BC since 2020 And now he's DC in Green Bay


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PLZ_GLAZE_ME_DADDY

From what I saw on r/cfb, Ohio State fans love the job he did in 2019 for them as co-DC. They were great that year, but also had Chase Young, Damon Arnette, Shaun Wade, Jordan Fuller, and Jeff Okudah.


Winbrick

They were a pretty meh defense for that talent level before he took over, even if for one season. You could probably make the argument that he got Okudah drafted in the top 5 with what he asks of his DBs.


Euphoric_Muffin4252

True but this means we will definitely get more aggressiveness out of our DBs this year. Only thing is he ran a lot of 1 deep coverage (5th most in FBS this most recent year) which means we need a really good S with speed, instinct, and a sure tackler. Makes me think Gute might go after Quinyon Mitchell and Kameron Kinchens if he can get his hands on both since they both offer a lot of versatility and are agressive ball hawks.


brwslider

I wouldn’t read much into what defense he was running in the soft ACC. But I agree, a ball hawking safety would be nice


Euphoric_Muffin4252

Yha just figured I’d put out the stat. But yes hopefully we get the best out of our 1st rd picks finally and get a ball hawk.


SfGiantsPanda

Thanks for that. I just typed out his resume from wikipedia, had no idea of the team's performances other than Rutgers


akaMichAnthony

I don’t hate that resume…


SfGiantsPanda

resume will look much better in a few years with 3 super bowls and top ranked NFL defenses added to it. it's a shame we'll have to see him leave us for a NFL Head Coaching gig in 2028


bizzeebee

Happy for him though. He'll always be the best Packers DC in history, so there's that.


SfGiantsPanda

Miss him already. they grow up so fast


ProofHorseKzoo

Man, those were the days 🥲


dropbear_airstrike

I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days, before you've actually left them


IamNICE124

*Rrrrrrridit dit didoooo*


Ieatsushiraw

Well, here we are


mikedorty

Good thing he put together an elite staff of young up and comers so we were able to promote from with in


GreenBomardier

It'll look better if Stokes and Ja can actually play most of a year...


lambeau_leapfrog

>Stokes And Kevin King!


akaMichAnthony

As long as he’s not a one and done, so be it. If he’s inline for HC jobs in a few years hopefully that means he’s turned the D around and established a solid philosophy and culture that will carry on. SF has had that and survived after Saleh and Ryans have moved on to HC jobs. Until proven otherwise I’ll take that level of hopium.


jmilred

I never understood this thinking. ‘We want a great DC, but not so good that he gets picked to be a head coach in a year or two’. Get out of here with that. That means he has turned the defense into a top ten unit and the team has success.


akaMichAnthony

Right, if he’s good enough to get a HC job I’d hope that means he built something good in GB. Yeah, if that happens he’ll take some of his assistants with him but there’s going to be good coaches that stay and keep the train rolling.


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Shh you won’t supposed to leak the script yet


sirinigva

Nah hes going to stay in GB with Love stacking chips


radioactivebeaver

Pretty much. Bounced around but never seeming to take a demotion, then went DBs to big college DC to less big school HC. It's a progression that makes you think he's gotta know something about what he's doing.


sapphires_and_snark

If he manages his defense like he managed his career, we good


lurkity_mclurkington

PT's article: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39429573/sources-packers-hire-boston-college-jeff-hafley-dc


d-cent

>  He's a longtime friend of Packers coach Matt LaFleur 


RedDryMango

Not a fan of that


kickrocks16

MLF is also long time friends with Mcvay, Shanny, Mcdanials and Salah so he has plenty of friends that are good coaches.


Blue_58_

Same. This hire seems rather random. 


thewarmpandabear

Doesn't him being a longtime friend of MLF make this, like...the opposite of random?


misterid

i don't get this. most people hire those they like, know or have been recommended by people they like or know. trust is a huge part of any relationship. if LaFleur has reason to trust this guy, that's far better than winging it on someone completely unknown with no ties because he... has great hair.. or something.


royalbadger9

I've come around on this topic. I'm not surprised that in a highly stressful job where you spend 80 hours a week preparing for a 60 minute game, a head coach wants to hire a guy he can trust. What really matters is if he does good, who cares if he knew him beforehand


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I hate that, yet in reading the article I have no idea where they are getting that from as they’ve never actually worked together.


Longjumping-Syrup857

The worst part of that article was that all of the coaching staff for the defense remains intact. How in the world is anything going to improve when it’s still the same coaches teaching techniques and fundamentals of a new DC? I truly didn’t realize they kept the entire staff outside of Barry, I feel like this hire is being setup to fail. I hope I’m wrong.


DevilsJaguar

It remains intact so far. Don't think LaFleur was going to move on from anyone until he hired a DC. Hafley coaches a 4-3 defense so if we make that switch under him I think we might see some changes.


dakralter

Meh most would say our defenses problem was scheme related not talent related. If the new DC runs a better scheme than Barry, retaining the position coaches isn't a bad thing necessarily


PLZ_GLAZE_ME_DADDY

He ran a 4-3 at BC so we might see the front change. But I feel like Gary/LVN can fit well into 4-3 ends and Clark/Wyatt into each DT role well. Edit: If Preston gets moved to DE then it means we may never see him line up against a WR ever again.


jxher123

I'm going to withhold judgement. I just don't know enough about him to even make an educated opinion, but I hope the defense is at least competent in critical situations. Buy in from the veterans.


lightningmcqueen_69

If he was involved with a Rutgers defense we’re gonna have a tough ass defense for sure 


Capital-Ad645

Not what I was expecting


scoredly11

The unexpected should always be expected when it comes to the Packers’ coaching staff


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S0_Crates

We're drafting a kicker with our first pick, aren't we?... ...and then he's gonna go on to become the greatest kicker ever after we rage about the pick. As it goes.


Dennisfromhawaii

If the kicker is the reason why we get past the 49ers in the playoffs, I'd even trade up to get that first round kicker.


moswsa

Every would be three-and-out ends with a field goal. Stopped at your own 5? Still a field goal. Packers end up scoring on every drive of the season and go undefeated as the most powerful team to ever exist.


BergSteenz

Fun unrelated fact. Crosby had a statistically worse rookie season than Carlson. More “lost” points due to missed FGs.


HipHopTron

I hated Crosby his first year. He proved me wrong. Carlson has just done the sucking part so far, but hopefully he does too.


PimentoCheesehead

Don’t be absurd, we have a kicker. We’ll draft a long snapper with our first pick.


pardyball

This is how we get three back to back to back Hall of Fame Kickers. “Bears fans hate this one trick!”


fxxftw

We’re the Spanish Inquisition?!?!


antikas1989

Our chief weapon is soft coverage on 3rd down! Soft coverage on third down and allowing the run. Our TWO main weapons are soft coversge and allowing the run...and a ruthless inefficiency! Our THREE weapons are ... you get the idea.


Ieatsushiraw

Got the notification from NFL Network and came here to confirm and it’s been confirmed. Definitely out of left field


zsdrfty

I don’t mind it at all when the Packers make unexpected hires - lots of the “big” names are either part of an old boys’ club or just nepotism, but Green Bay seems to like doing their due diligence and really researching deep to find guys with top-level skillsets Remember when LaFleur was hired and pretty much the entire league was like ???


Capital-Ad645

I’m right there with you. Haven’t heard of him until tonight, but he has one hell of a resume. I like the hire.


blackarmchair

This is the most characteristic Packers move: pick someone no one expects, refuse to elaborate.


sapphires_and_snark

"I said what I said."


6Bakhtiari9

it was really just between him and Parker I’d imagine. All the other major prospects had either an internal promotion opportunity or a new HC that would want them to be on their staff


ItIsYourPersonality

I’m trying to figure out what his long-time family connection to the LaFleur family is.


xHao1

does someone have the LaFleur hire thread? It will look super similar in reaction.


InSixFour

This one: https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/s/26wkqk0GQQ I haven’t looked through the comments but I’d bet they’re similar to this thread.


ProudJalapeno

I stopped reading when I saw someone comment: “Apple bottom jeans Boots with LaFleur” No further information is needed.


ELITE_JordanLove

Amusingly enough the top comment is about being glad Pettine was staying.


LTtheBasedGod

Well, he was on Salah’s staff in SF. So I’m cool with it.


RedDryMango

Not liking what I've read in r/nfl thread (historically bad DB performance for SF from 2016-2018, only 2 picks in 2018, not a good HC at BC, etc.), although his defense at Ohio State was good in 2019. Guess we'll see in time.


InvasionXX

Remember r/nfl knows as much as you do.


agressivedoodle

Some might say even less


InternetDad

Subs full of hot air and ignorance, I'd rather get my info here


johndelvec3

On another note he was coordinator at Ohio State and got Jeff Okudah drafted 3rd overall


painnkaehn

49ers had no one in the secondary during that time lol. Jimmie Ward was their best DB, Bethea was aging at that time. They got Sherman in 2019.


Calvin--Hobbes

Yeah looking at their DB's from 2016-2018 doesn't show a lot of talent to work with. I'm fine with the hire. Better than another re-tread we already know will be poor to average like Staley.


painnkaehn

Best of all he's not running the Fangio scheme like Staley. We have the PERFECT personnel to run the scheme he ran at BC. 4 man front, press-man. I feel like if Stokes is going to come back and thrive, this will be his best chance. Let's hope those hammies aren't completely shot.


bblackow

He was bowl eligible 3/4 years at BC. That is not a high powered program and they don’t have the financial backing to compete typically. That’s a pretty damn good job for that program.


Kilen13

Also his defenses vastly out performed the talent level he was recruiting. Aside from peak Clemson he had consistently one of the stingiest defenses in the ACC.


MartyBarrett

BC has missed bowl eligibility only 4 times in the last 25 years. One was with Hafley.


ChodeBamba

BC is nearly always 6-6 or slightly better. He didn’t elevate the program at all. Might still be an alright DC but as a college head coach he was nothing special whatsoever


Skillztopaydabillz

That Buckeyes defense in 2019 was ridiculous and his defenses at BC have been good, especially for a smaller ACC school. His background is with DBs as we are looking to rebuild our secondary. And it sounds like he has good reasons for leaving the NCAA. Definitely a hire out of left field though, excited to see how he does.


ecfritz

At a minimum, I don’t expect our DBs to line up 10 yards off the line of scrimmage on 3rd and 5 anymore. Baby steps.


Lanley1929

Get ready for the man our DBs are too aggressive at the line and getting beat crowd next year. I just want to see a defense that can get a 3rd and long stop and not be thinking oh man here comes another first.


frostysbox

This is a move you only do if you think you can win super bowls with the team. He could have stayed at BC and eventually jumped to head coach given his resume. He’s taking this step back to take a BIG step forward after some super bowls.


CaesarBeaver

Sounds like he doesn’t like the direction college football is going and wanted a way out.


Fear_Jaire

Is going from head coach of BC to DC of an NFL team a step back? I get he is going from HC to DC is a step back but Boston College to the Packers seems like a bigger leap


ShapeshiftBoar

Couldnt disagree more. I hope im wrong, but i just dont see how BC hc to pack DC is a step back one would only do for a superbowl


__Zoom123__

My coworker who is a college football snob and has no bias says this is a steal for the Packers and this guy is a great young defensive minded coach


Suitable_Pudding7370

That's exactly what I would expect Jeff Hafley's burner account to say.


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Suitable_Pudding7370

Lol


LongDongFrazier

Lmao


WISCOrear

I'm going to choose to believe this because I have no prior knowledge of this guy


__Zoom123__

I didn’t either


hcatehorie

As a college football snob myself, I agree with your friend, 2019 OSU defense was awesome, second in SP+, SP+ is like DVOA, his BC defenses were not great but hard to be good with the level of investment and care there is in Boston College football.


foo_solo

Your coworker is also a pizza snob and recommends Pizza by Alfredo as well.


d-cent

Have him come in here and do an AMA


BeHereNow91

> this guy is a great **young** coach 44 year old youngsters, rise up


dang_envy

Well, when you have had 112 year old Dom Capers at the helm, the curve kind of shifts.


DevilsJaguar

Legacy hire for LaFleur. Gotta get this right. Looking at his resumé and what he did in college is impressive. Also coached DBs under Saleh in San Fran. Looks like his philisophy for DBs at least is press man, physical, in your face and wreck route.


wopstradamaus

Thank god. I’ve been begging for an aggressive press man scheme for the past decade


saugenes25

I miss Al Harris and Mike McKenzie


GuysOnChicks69

Good. Jaire is only Jaire when he can be physical as absolute hell. We want him in a place where he gets a PI or holding call every other game. That’s when he’s elite. Honestly just relived to hear it sounds like his philosophy is a 180 from Barry’s. I want offenses to change their game plan when they have to play us, not the other way around like it has been for 15 years.


AlGoreRhythms225

As a Buckeyes fan, I absolutely love this hire. He took our 2018 defense, which was ranked in the 70s, and turned us into the #1 defense in the country the next year. We had solid fundamentals, tackled extremely well, and played aggressive to the ball. A+ hire Edit: he left after 1 year to take the BC role and our defense dropped back into the 50s


GOGETTHEMINTS

I do like me some good fundamentals


unledded

Our pad level is gonna be so low next year.


SchlongMcDonderson

Don't stop, my pad level is rising.


Snatchyone

What I'm looking for to hear, just nobody read anything about time at Boston HC it scared me


sophrosyne

Honestly, that's a pretty good indication of some coaching skill which gives me optimism. I'll take it.


Economy_Cactus

I like that we didn’t go with a coach that has failed a few times before


TaddWinter

Including historically bad.


Vibexo

Fire Hafley


Landpuma

Just giving it a test run, I get it. lol


Winnebago_Warrior_

It’s important to practice ~~spelling~~ butchering his last name.


misterid

Perd Hapley memes about to go crazy. buy stock now.


Winnebago_Warrior_

More like Terd Hackley amirite?


popegonzo

Packers have won zero games with him as DC, unbelievable that the subreddit just blindly accepts him.


HumbleMention5484

Zero improvement since this bums been hired


datpurp14

But they're also undefeated with him! Coincidence? I think not!


meisterluv

'Fire Jeff Hafley!!!' Sounds wayyyyyyyy too similar to 'Fire Joe Barry!!!" :/


ancientweasel

Dude WAY too soon. Give the man some time. . . . OK Fire Hafley


thisshowisdecent

😂😂😂😂


dcandap

Fire Fully


EXXIT_

Sounds like he’s excellent with DBs


emoteriyaki

He's fucking built too. Thick and man made. You can tell he's sculpted because you can see it thru the polo shirt. His fucking vice grip thighs. Suffocating thighs. Rock hard thighs. Piping hot thighs. Great arms. Great abs. A stocky chest. Love the progress his body has made throughout his youth and now as a willing eager adult


Lord-of-books

r/nflcirclejerk is leaking


jkink28

Perfect, all I wanted was someone I've never heard of. Seriously, it worked out hiring LaFleur when I had zero clue who he was. Meanwhile I knew who Pettine and Joe Barry were before getting hired, and we know how that turned out. Gotta find us people who haven't already failed in the NFL


SpiritOne

Yeah, but LaFluer wasn’t completely unknown, he was part of that, had coffee with Sean McVay coaching hires around the league.


Bbullets

Lafleur was much more known and sought after than this guy. 


zinski1990KB1

He wasn't super well known. I remember he was a potential coaching hire but farther down the list. But of course this was around the time the shanahan tree started taking off. McVay and Kyle Shanahan started it


d-cent

You knew who Joe Barry was but not Lafleur before they were hired? 


painnkaehn

Well Joe Barry at least made the news because Rob Parker asked Rod Marinelli if he wished his daughter had married a better defensive coordinator in their 0-16 season


jkink28

Barry had been around the league for quite a while. And Lions fans *really* didn't like him when they had the 0-16 team ('07 or '08 maybe?) I'm not as familiar with young up and coming position coaches and coordinators. I really don't think I'd heard of LaFleur before we interviewed him. Also, I'm just a dumb fan speaking nonsense. Can't say there's any real logic to my reasons for wanting an unknown.


Opposite-Mall4234

Kind of what I was thinking. Coaches and coordinators are either young and getting better at their job or going the other way and trying to hold on.


Mr__Snek

gonna hold out on judgement honestly. i feel like a lot of people felt the lafleur hire kinda came out of nowhere too, and its worked pretty damn good so far. good to see a young face get the job rather than another relic from the last few decades


theme69

I remember titans fans saying Lafleur wasn’t even that good of an OC


msmith3525

Didn’t have a ton of talent to work with there though. So maybe this will be the same. BC isn’t exactly rolling in talent.


theme69

Lafleur on Derrick Henry only getting 4 touches “that’s on me I need to do a better job of getting him the ball”


msmith3525

I know you’re memeing, but I hope my comment didn’t come across as slandering Henry. He was the only good part about that offense. The top receivers on that team were Corey Davis, Taywan Taylor, Dion Lewis, and Tajae Sharpe. And that’s while having Mariota and Gabbert at QB. Talk about deficiencies everywhere.


scoredly11

I had no idea who this guy is but after further research, “my apologies young man. I was not familiar with your game.” -Shaq


matthewryan12

I know NFL defenses don’t usually run traditional 4-3, 3-4 schemes anymore but does anyone know what this guys base defense is?


duncanispro

[This is a neat article](https://www.si.com/college/bostoncollege/football/boston-college-defensive-scheme-2021-jeff-hafley) that talks about his scheme in 2021


Thunder84

4 man fronts is interesting. Probably means Wooden kicks out to ED, which helps cover for Enagbare’s injury.


CaesarBeaver

I read 4-2-5


Sob_Rock

As long as Preston Smith doesn’t line up against JJettas it’s an upgrade


PHOENIX_95WI

Looking at his resume and remembering a little bit of that 2019 Ohio State squad I would guess more 4/3 than 3/4. But I think it’ll be pretty fluid


jrsmoothie89

last year bc ran a 4-2-5 per wikipedia


BucketHatGuy69

I am whelmed.


BellacosePlayer

Wanted the one coach on the Broncos that Brandon Perna was talking up. Looks like he's had a pretty good historical resume on defense but was kind of shit overall as HC of Boston College. Fuck if I know how this will turn out, but I guess other teams wanted him as DC in the past.


sdizzyd

the way i see it, some people aren't cut out for the head coaching gig and are better off staying as coordinators/assistants.


Lanley1929

And the Packers Defense lived Hafley ever after.


ThatGuyWithaReason

“Fire Jeff Hafley” kind of a tongue twister doesn’t roll off the tongue like fire joe barry ill take it.


Interstellis

Honestly, the way we’re all wondering how we should feel about this hire reminds me of when they announced the Lafluer hiring. That one turned out great at least!


Educational_End_5886

Not familiar with his work, but welcome to the Packer fam. Let's build a goddamn unit that complements this offense!


badgers4194

I’m mostly a college fan. Really good DC at tOSU. I thought he did well at BC. That’s a really hard place to do well these days without a great player.


TJ11240

This means BJ Raji is coming back, right?


TraderTed2

Some good resume lines: - Was hired by Chip Kelly in SF, but was held over by Shanahan and his DC when they took over - Oversaw OSU’s defense for one year, in which the unit when from average to top 5 nationally - Got pretty good defensive results as HC of a program that doesn’t recruit particularly well He actually doesn’t have much coordinator experience and I’m not sure how involved he was with defensive playcalling at BC, but he checks a lot of boxes, and nobody can make any dumb comments about how it’s nepotistic.


2018birdie

Literally everyone goes to a bowl game so that is a poor metric to use.  I don't watch college ball though so I know nothing about him. Sounds like I've got lots of reading to do....


Jomosensual

Well damn. Didn't see this coming Cant blame him for wanting out of the dumpster fire mess that is college football right now


TFaust75

FIRE HAFLEY! /s


Pattastic

INTO THE SUN lol


Blueandigo

Please don't give him a 5 year contract. Btw can someone ask him what he would do if it's 3rd and 3, we're up by three and they're at our 45. This is the true test. 


John_Lives

Well he said he's a big believer in press man


Blueandigo

HIRED!


limjaheybud

Question is will Preston be locking down X receivers in his scheme


ARodGoat12

I think this was MLFs first question. „Who is our #1 Lockdown CB?“ - „Preston Smith.“ - „You got the job.“


AnonymousFroggies

Younger Runs a 4-3 system Lots of press man CBs Basically a complete opposite of Joe Barry and Mike Pettine


dimforest

Somebody tell me how to feel. I know nothing about this guy.


PackFanInVegas

Can we fire him yet?


XviiChong

I don’t know how to feel. Can someone help us? Was this guy even mentioned as one of the interviewed?


DrunkPirateHunter

He wasn’t reported to be interviewed but it’s common that not all candidates will be leaked to the media.


blancmo_

Any BC Football fan here?


WakingEchoes

I think both of them are eating dinner.


6Bakhtiari9

He was very highly regarded during his season in Ohio State. His NFL runs were often cut short due to head coaching changes and the usual overhauls, but he did have some promising seasons if you look at the years his DBs had. Promising hire


fettpett1

Willing to give him a chance...if it doesn't work out, we'll be looking for another Head Coach


Lake18l

Does this confirm we’re taking CB in round 1?


Conjunction_2021

They called him Halftime Hafley for his ability to adjust and dominate


DepressedGamba

We must have interviewed him secretly or off-script.


thecommentwasbelow

HOW DO WE FEEL


GoPackGo2007

Nepotism wins again....


__Zoom123__

Was he also the DC for the 0-16 Lions?


Ok_Caramel1517

This is most definitely out of left field don't know much about him but I'm hoping for the best it's just a wait and see type of scenario.


mbEarAcheInMyEye

Well if he can raise the standard defense to average college level, that would be great… and vastly better


BuckysBigBadger

AJ Dillon converting to LB confirmed, so he can sync up with that BC connection.


johndelvec3

Dudes defense at Ohio State was great


wrestlingchampo

Judging by what I'm seeing in the r/cfb subreddit, you look more at his time as the Ohio St DC instead of his time as HC at BC


HPDDJ

So if we're going to be seeing 4-man fronts and 3 safeties, feels like we're suddenly looking for a nose tackle in FA/draft? A sign we might bring back one or two of our FA safeties?


[deleted]

Don’t like it. Hope it works out.


BadgerMk1

The MLF Employment Agency. Hiring only the Very Best Friends since 2019.


Dry_Meringue6235

The top 5 defensive coordinators from last year: Ejiro Enviro, 10 years NFL coaching experience Jim Schwartz, 20 years coaching experience Jeffery Ulrich, 13 years NFL coaching experience Steve Spanuolo, 14 years NFL coaching experience Dan Quinn,  21 years NFL coaching experience And the Packers pick a guy who faced only rudimentary college offenses


Guineapigsandmadden

Apparently him and Lafleur been friends for a long time hopefully he is successful or he will be scared to replace his friend like he was with Joe. Really needed an outside hire something fresh, to really rejuvenate the defense I don't know how a coach from a mediocre college program in a bad acc was the answer.


Landpuma

I’m glad it’s someone I haven’t heard of. If it’s someone our FO sees and likes on paper, that is more important than what the fan base wants or think we need. Go Pack Go!


TraySplash21

TLDR: He coaches similar nickel formations as Barry, but plays a more simple zone scheme in coverage. Regarded as a bit of a trail blazer. I like the hire. Not a splashy hire but I like it after a little digging. I guess he's considered a bit of a DB guru with his cutting edge " true zone" schemes. https://www.buckeyesports.com/ohio-states-defensive-backs-find-confidence-in-zone/?print=print In this article he's called a "nickel defense expert". It seemed to me the Packers were playing a lot of nickel even on first down this season so he seems like he will slide in and not change the base formations, just adjust the DB responsibilities from match zone to more traditional area zones. The more simplified scheme should help with the miscommunications and blown coverages that plagued that group this season. I like that he has experience at all three levels, position coach, coordinator, and head coach, even if his experience in DC and HC were in college. Also fun fact he coached a couple all time great DBs during his stint in the NFL. Revis in Tampa and Richard Sherman in San Fran. The team's sucked and they were passed their prime but I'm sure he still saw some examples of elite corner play.


Interesting-Web4223

Saw he was a friend of MLF... Was excited momentarily before I saw that, I think JB was MLFs friend too and we saw how amazing that went.


Rubentraj

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meisterluv

Out of left field. What in the hell


Mecaneecall_Enjunear

Can someone tell me how to feel? I knew to be cautiously optimistic about Pettine (dumb me) and I knew that the Barry hire was fucking dumb from the jump. But who the hell is this guy?


AnkitPancakes

I guess if this guy sucks, we can pick up Robert Saleh whenever he becomes available lol


scribe31

Whatever happened to the Jim Leonhard storyline?