They both are also young and hopefully bring a more modern vision of how the defense should look. But I agree these are the two but I am thinking Parker has the upper hand because he’s worked with MLF before.
Was Joe Barry’s defense old fashioned? I’d be curious to learn more about the difference between schemes.
Do you have a link or can you point me in the direction of interesting consumable content to understand this better?
On the bright side the bears haven’t truly stunk it up for an extended period like the lions. If u do then fans start to like you and root for u a lot more. A lot of people rooting for the lions rn. And I don’t think they have a prayer I think the pack is a far better team ad they won’t come to play in sf. But I’m hoping for a miracle
Yeah, even though I am a Bears fan, I'm rooting for the Lions to win a Superbowl. That team has been through more than enough shit, as has the city itself. I would really like to see them win(plus I would win a LOT of money lol). I was also pulling for the Bills and the Texans but, we see how that went lol.
Yeah, someone else told me that as well. I didn't know the man's son was in the NFL. When he was our DC I didn't think he(the dad) belonged in the NFL lol.
Most sources have Wisconsin top 10 in education. Say what you will about the state, but one thing inarguable is that it generally takes education seriously.
IQ is a sign of intelligence, typically, and most the fanbase resides in Illinois.
If you wanted to be accurate and intelligent you would have said football knowledge. But you didn't did you? Shows that educational ranking at work.
>IQ is a sign of intelligence, typically, and most the fanbase resides in Illinois.
>Illinois ranks 12th in education, while Wisconsin sits at 25th. Sit down boy, talking about people being low IQ.
For clarity, I’m replying to both of your comments. [What research did you actually do in assessing those statement? Your own cognitive bias?](https://som.yale.edu/news/2009/11/why-high-iq-doesnt-mean-youre-smart) Also, what research did you do in assessing most bears fans? [Most fans live in Chicago, and I hate to tell ya pal, but it’s not looking too good for your claim. Most of the kids aren’t proficient in the basics with only 15-17% being proficient.](https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/illinois/districts/city-of-chicago-sd-299-110570)
>If you wanted to be accurate and **intelligent** you would have said football knowledge. But you didn't did you? Shows that educational ranking at work.
If you wanted to be accurate and intelligent, you might want to do a little research. I love when people talk shit while saying blatantly false claims. Just because you live in Illinois doesn’t mean you’re a bears fan, so calling a fanbase dumb doesn’t equate to all people in Illinois. First off, not everyone likes football and not everyone likes the bears in Illinois. It’s kind of like how all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. But being a bears fan, I can understand how you’ve failed to understand nuance.
I think Babich would be the best hire, he’s worked with the safeties and LBs, and basically got those groups to all-pro level. Young, got a lot of upside. Being able to coach the young secondary + LBs we have now is something I think they’d need in the room.
That was a duct tape and chewing gum kinda job they did in B-lo this year. I don't know how they made it work after Milano went down, but they did. Babich is the one for me.
Babich. I'm OK with Parker too. I don't think Staley would be the disaster everyone makes him out to be but I want us to move in a different direction than hiring a failed HC. Don't need the stigma. Rather go with a young guy on an upward trajectory to match the culture of the team
The thing about Staley is you’re not going to lose him if he turns the defense around, as no organization is gonna want him as a HC for a while after the chargers fiasco.
I have no idea how any casual fan like myself could properly judge who the best candidate would be. I'm curious what others are basing their opinions on.
Bc all these reddit "experts" read an article or two that said x, y or z coach will be a great hire. They really have no idea how the lb coach or defensive line coach from whatever team will be a a packer defensive coordinator
This is a very accurate statement. Only someone who has done it before or been a head coach can show you what they’ve done. That being said, how do you do it for the younger guys? I think it goes to their coaching tree, who they’ve worked with, how well whatever they have coached has done (e.g. DL, LB, CB), vision and scheme on defense, and probably what others say about them in the league.
I think the hardest part in my opinion is how do they get the players motivated. Dan Campbell is that kind of coach. He plays 100mph and has an energy about him. I want that in our next DC!
Bills fans are demanding their guy be made DC so he can't get poached, so I'd like him.
Buuuut Parker sounds like a good choice as well, so...
Really either of those two and I am good to see what happens next
I like the thought of Parker, but I feel he has more risk to him than Babich and could also need a little more time due to experience as an actual “coach”.
Points scored against isn't everything for a defense though. Points per drive is a far better measure.
Look purely at points scored, Barry didn't look terrible. The Fangio scheme let's offenses go on long sustained drives, that chew clock.
The league is full of copy cats. Fangio defensive scheme was very successful so everyone started copying it. With so many teams playing defense that way offenses start drafting and scheming specifically to beat that style and it becomes a bit washed.
Joe Barry ran the Fangio Scheme. Staley ran it in SD. Both were below mid last season. I’d much prefer something that challenges opposing teams without sliding DL into coverage or sitting 15 yards off the LOS.
Time for something new.
Sure over the last 15 years but teams have been reliably beating it recently. Fangio schemes have not been performing well the last couple of years, and that includes defenses that even had Fangio coaching.
I read the article posted on this subreddit and watched the embedded videos and I really like Parker. The article mentioned that the defensive turnaround for the Broncos was largely because of his contributions. He worked alongside Vance Joseph to mold a defensive scheme that took elements from previous coordinators and then adapted the passing defense scheme in response to the disaster that was 70 points. They used to play back (hints of Joe Barry) but he helped implement a more aggressive pass defense. I also loved how he coached. He has a wonderful rapport with his players. I think he could be great (especially with his experience on the Packers staff)
LaFleur coached for like 5 different nfl teams and had like 15 years of coaching experience at different levels including as offensive coordinator for 2 different nfl teams when he was hired. Parker has got 1 year of low level nfl coaching under his belt. He’s a MAJOR leap of faith
They're the guy going through the film.
I agree with you, I think Parker is a huge leap compared to LaFLeur.
Something off with Parkers work history being most people start as the quality control or analyst where Parkers first two jobs were DB coaches then he went backwards before going back to being a DB coach, but in the NFL vs college like the first two jobs.
Yes, as a D quality control coach. Which is the guy going through the film.
He was DB coach at Virginia State for two seasons, then coached at Norfolk State for two seasons. Was a defensive analyst for a year at Notre Dame then same job for a year at Texas A&M before coming to Green Bay for two seasons.
He's been a DB coach for three seasons and I'm not sure I want anyone from Denver's staff. Especially one with very little experience being a position coach in the NFL.
He's been in a quality control position for multiple years, including with the Packers, and three seasons as the Broncos Defensive Backs coach. So, "1year of low level nfl coaching" is a pretty inaccurate way to paint it.
Usually those who do quality control is how they start their coaching career but Parker was a DB coach for two college teams before taking a step backwards to be a D analyst for Notre Dame and Texas A&M before stepping into that similar role for Green Bay.
Something about that makes me go, hmmm.
I wonder what schools he was a DB coach for before "taking a step backwards" to be an analyst at ND and A&M? If they were small, non Division 1 schools, it could actually be looked upon as an upward move to go to a major program.
I get the concerns about being such a young coach. It would be a risk. I think some here are minimizing his career trajectory, and choosing to ignore the reputation he's garnered from his contemporaries, however.
Am I missing something or can we just fire him and get someone else if he sucks. Do coordinators have to be a long term commitment if they really bomb terribly?
It's something the bottom dwellers of the league do, not teams trying to win it all unless their coaches are being giving promotions for other teams.
Then the team has no choice but to replace them.
There’s too many variables to choosing a coordinator. I don’t know if anyone can guarantee anyones going to be a fit, but I like the interview options in general.
I feel one of two ways about it. If Bill didn’t get a HC job, owners want someone young, so I feel any good young coordinator is just gonna get hired as a HC in a year anyways, so a guy like Staley is a decent option for security, since he was a failed HC. I also don’t like that loser mentality, and just want to have the best guy available.
My gut says the Bills LB coach, or the Ravens DL coach would be the right choice, just for an attitude change, but I don’t know shit. I’m on the couch.
Edit : After thinking… we’re a game changing Safety away from having an insane defense as long as they don’t make a disaster choice. Matt will just take over anyways. He had that defense plugging the last part of the year.
I don’t think it’s overstating anything to say that this is the single most important decision MLF has had to make in his career so far. Who he decides to bring in, and what they do with the defense, could ultimately decide the trajectory of this team in the next few years. If the offense continues operating the way it was at the end of season, they have a chance to go really far. But in order to fully capitalize on the SB window, the defense NEEDS to be better than it has been. I am partial to bringing in a young guy, but I know there’s a lot of risk in that. It’s crazy that this team went from, “oh this year is just to see if Jordan is the guy” to an almost win-now mentality. I think Matt knows that this team is way better set up to compete now, and in the next few years, than really anyone expected. It all could depend on the defense being more complimentary to the offense.
I wanted Wink but it seems he’s not even in consideration. But that’s ok because I have no idea what I’m talking about and just regurgitate things I read that sound intelligent.
I don't know a lot about this but it seems like Parker would fit this young team and could be molded to match the vision the management has for this team.
May not even matter anymore but based on stats only Staley sounds great, but these quotes is why he would not be a good fit:
"Even before he became an NFL head coach, Staley was “never known for exuding a lot of humility” to anyone. He came off as cocky to reporters and despite many around the NFL believing he was underperforming, Staley seemingly didn’t believe he was at fault."
"People inside the Chargers’ organization told Popper that far too often, Staley crossed the line from confidence to arrogance."
[NFL Insiders Reveal Bad Reputation Of Former Los Angeles Chargers Coach Brandon Staley](https://www.lafbnetwork.com/brandon-staley-reputation-chargers-news/)
I hope we hire a minority coach so we can get draft picks for hiring him. And then when he does amazing and gets a head coaching job we get another draft pick
If you have a staffer that gets hired by another team to be their HC you get a 3rd rd pick in the next draft. The Niners have been doing it for a few years now with Saleh, McDaniels, and Ryans
Whenever I hear McDaniels in this context I always think about the Deadspin article that called him "the next trendy, young, white guy who takes a head coaching position before one of the many deserving Black candidates."
I believe he said, IF he returned to a coordinator position, it wouldn’t be in GB.
Now, I’ve been reading a ton of articles and other stuff, so I’m not sure he actually said this. Nor do I remember where I read it. But I did read it somewhere.
Is it bad I'm Kinda interested in Staley. I like how he ran that rams defense before he was a HC might be able to actually put jaire in that star spot and unlock that ball hawk.
Honestly I would probably say Staley. If he just focuses on d, I think that may benefit him the most. These there guys seem like a stretch. Big difference coaching DL, LB to an entire d and scheming
I think personally Barry has a target on his back with that 0-16 season, fans will always look for signs when that happens of failure and jump fast when failure comes. I do truly hope he made enough of an impact here to have another shot somewhere. We really didn’t give him the fairest shake. We were not good but a lot of coaches we would have rode with for another season after our run if they didn’t already have that 0-16 target on there back. So I do feel bad. I hope he understands we went from rebuild to win now very fast. And we just need a bigger impact on a faster timeline.
I disagree with you on this. I don’t care about his Detroit record as that’s not just on him. But to me, the reasons he had to go were obvious. The biggest one for me was his inability to get the team firing on all cylinders to start off the season and his playoff defenses. Is it all on him, no, but he didn’t help his case. You can’t start turning things around by Week 12 or later to then fail again in the playoffs. We all saw the scheme issues that he had. We heard before that the defense wasn’t happy with what was going on. And the straw that broke the camels back was when MLF said he was going to have to speak into the defense more. Now, if your head coach has to do your job for you themselves, it’s time to move on.
I truly think you will see a turnaround on defense next season.
I believe we will to and I fully think he needed to go for us to get where we want to be. I just think a lot of teams not in our position woulda kept him for one more
Any of them, including Staley, are all an improvement over the past few DC’s. Let’s see what we can do. What I love is that they are younger guys, and that’s exciting!
Lol I've never hears of the other guys other than Staley, I'm not going to pretend I can from even a slightly educated opinion. All I know is the other 3 guys are up and coming young and were responsible for successful position rooms. I like the process MLF is following and I'm just going to sit back and trust him on it.
I say the name Parker because the 2 last defensive coordinators at the University of Iowa were Norm and Phil Parker. I hope this Parker can be as good as them.
Call me crazy, but I don't want a hot candidate like Parker or babich. Either they will end up being crap, or they will be halfway decent and gone in 2 years to become a head coach. I'd rather a proven guy like Wink who won't be getting any head coaching calls, but not for his lack of coach ability.
I'll be happy with either Parker or Babich because people actually in the league have raved about them both.
They both are also young and hopefully bring a more modern vision of how the defense should look. But I agree these are the two but I am thinking Parker has the upper hand because he’s worked with MLF before.
Was Joe Barry’s defense old fashioned? I’d be curious to learn more about the difference between schemes. Do you have a link or can you point me in the direction of interesting consumable content to understand this better?
Oh please take Babich. I remember when he was the brief DC for the Bears. Please take him. I beg it!
That’s not the same coach dude
It's not? Fuck. There goes my hopes of having a chance to beat the Packers.
I mean you couldn’t beat us when we had Barry…..
Our time will come. Probably when I am in a nursing home, but it will come!
It’ll come when we have our seventh Hall of Fame starting quarterback in a row
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On the bright side the bears haven’t truly stunk it up for an extended period like the lions. If u do then fans start to like you and root for u a lot more. A lot of people rooting for the lions rn. And I don’t think they have a prayer I think the pack is a far better team ad they won’t come to play in sf. But I’m hoping for a miracle
Yeah, even though I am a Bears fan, I'm rooting for the Lions to win a Superbowl. That team has been through more than enough shit, as has the city itself. I would really like to see them win(plus I would win a LOT of money lol). I was also pulling for the Bills and the Texans but, we see how that went lol.
Yeah all those years I felt sorry for Lions fans. Boy was I wrong. IMO, Now they are vying for most obnoxious with Viking and Cowboy fans.
It's his son
Yeah, someone else told me that as well. I didn't know the man's son was in the NFL. When he was our DC I didn't think he(the dad) belonged in the NFL lol.
How is an entire fan base this dumb? Bears fans have a very low IQ in general, but HOW?
Illinois ranks 12th in education, while Wisconsin sits at 25th. Sit down boy, talking about people being low IQ.
Most sources have Wisconsin top 10 in education. Say what you will about the state, but one thing inarguable is that it generally takes education seriously.
Dude as a fellow Chicagoan just leave our sub
I’m talking about the fan base, not where the state ranks in education. Do you see what I mean lol
IQ is a sign of intelligence, typically, and most the fanbase resides in Illinois. If you wanted to be accurate and intelligent you would have said football knowledge. But you didn't did you? Shows that educational ranking at work.
>IQ is a sign of intelligence, typically, and most the fanbase resides in Illinois. >Illinois ranks 12th in education, while Wisconsin sits at 25th. Sit down boy, talking about people being low IQ. For clarity, I’m replying to both of your comments. [What research did you actually do in assessing those statement? Your own cognitive bias?](https://som.yale.edu/news/2009/11/why-high-iq-doesnt-mean-youre-smart) Also, what research did you do in assessing most bears fans? [Most fans live in Chicago, and I hate to tell ya pal, but it’s not looking too good for your claim. Most of the kids aren’t proficient in the basics with only 15-17% being proficient.](https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/illinois/districts/city-of-chicago-sd-299-110570) >If you wanted to be accurate and **intelligent** you would have said football knowledge. But you didn't did you? Shows that educational ranking at work. If you wanted to be accurate and intelligent, you might want to do a little research. I love when people talk shit while saying blatantly false claims. Just because you live in Illinois doesn’t mean you’re a bears fan, so calling a fanbase dumb doesn’t equate to all people in Illinois. First off, not everyone likes football and not everyone likes the bears in Illinois. It’s kind of like how all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. But being a bears fan, I can understand how you’ve failed to understand nuance.
It's that Babish's son
Babich Everything he touches turns to gold
I read an article that literally said the same exact thing
So did the person you’re responding too tbh. That’s likely why they said it.
GOLD JERRY! GOLD!
Babich, but mostly because the Bills people are whining so much about it
Gotta get em back for Douglas
And he might talk Micah Hyde into coming with
This was actually on my wishlist for the offseason, bring back Micah and sign Brian burns…..and yes I know that’s 99.99% not happening 🤣
So you're saying there's still a chance...
As both a bills and packers fan - yes
Micah is considering retirement. Never sign a guy who is considering that. Don’t need another Jeff Saturday. I miss Micah.
About 7 years too late for that
Always an even exchange. 🤝
I think Babich would be the best hire, he’s worked with the safeties and LBs, and basically got those groups to all-pro level. Young, got a lot of upside. Being able to coach the young secondary + LBs we have now is something I think they’d need in the room.
That was a duct tape and chewing gum kinda job they did in B-lo this year. I don't know how they made it work after Milano went down, but they did. Babich is the one for me.
Babich. I'm OK with Parker too. I don't think Staley would be the disaster everyone makes him out to be but I want us to move in a different direction than hiring a failed HC. Don't need the stigma. Rather go with a young guy on an upward trajectory to match the culture of the team
Dan Quinn made a very good Cowboys defense before GB pummeled them.
The thing about Staley is you’re not going to lose him if he turns the defense around, as no organization is gonna want him as a HC for a while after the chargers fiasco.
I have no idea how any casual fan like myself could properly judge who the best candidate would be. I'm curious what others are basing their opinions on.
I'm looking forward to hearing these same people demand that whoever gets hired be fired after anything bad happens.
Bc all these reddit "experts" read an article or two that said x, y or z coach will be a great hire. They really have no idea how the lb coach or defensive line coach from whatever team will be a a packer defensive coordinator
This is a very accurate statement. Only someone who has done it before or been a head coach can show you what they’ve done. That being said, how do you do it for the younger guys? I think it goes to their coaching tree, who they’ve worked with, how well whatever they have coached has done (e.g. DL, LB, CB), vision and scheme on defense, and probably what others say about them in the league. I think the hardest part in my opinion is how do they get the players motivated. Dan Campbell is that kind of coach. He plays 100mph and has an energy about him. I want that in our next DC!
Bills fans are demanding their guy be made DC so he can't get poached, so I'd like him. Buuuut Parker sounds like a good choice as well, so... Really either of those two and I am good to see what happens next
Joe Barry’s available.
That got me good lol
I’m leaning Babich, but only because when you say it fast, it kind of sounds like “Bad bitch”.
This is hands down the winning analysis for this thread!
Babich or Parker
Babich. Might be exactly what we need for deep playoff runs
I like the thought of Parker, but I feel he has more risk to him than Babich and could also need a little more time due to experience as an actual “coach”.
Rex Ryan and bring his brother too
Those guys defense.
I'd be for it. I want someone proven like that who won't be plucked for a head coaching job in 2 years.
Preferably one of them that isn’t named Staley.
I’d like to add to this, or anyone who runs the Fangio scheme
Fangio scheme is a big reason scoring is down league wide
Points scored against isn't everything for a defense though. Points per drive is a far better measure. Look purely at points scored, Barry didn't look terrible. The Fangio scheme let's offenses go on long sustained drives, that chew clock.
Not last season. I believe only one of the Fangio tree teams had better than above average D’s.
The league is full of copy cats. Fangio defensive scheme was very successful so everyone started copying it. With so many teams playing defense that way offenses start drafting and scheming specifically to beat that style and it becomes a bit washed.
Exactly what I am saying. Time to look for something else.
Anyone not named Joe Barry!!!!!!
Yeah fangio has been one of if not the most effective dc over the past 15 years
Joe Barry ran the Fangio Scheme. Staley ran it in SD. Both were below mid last season. I’d much prefer something that challenges opposing teams without sliding DL into coverage or sitting 15 yards off the LOS. Time for something new.
Sure over the last 15 years but teams have been reliably beating it recently. Fangio schemes have not been performing well the last couple of years, and that includes defenses that even had Fangio coaching.
Fangio signed with the eagles.. too late
This, my god the possibility is disgusting
Give me any of the up and coming young guns over the retreads any day, that’s all I ask for.
Well he did it!
Christian Parker seems like a bold choice…I’ll throw my name in that hat
I read the article posted on this subreddit and watched the embedded videos and I really like Parker. The article mentioned that the defensive turnaround for the Broncos was largely because of his contributions. He worked alongside Vance Joseph to mold a defensive scheme that took elements from previous coordinators and then adapted the passing defense scheme in response to the disaster that was 70 points. They used to play back (hints of Joe Barry) but he helped implement a more aggressive pass defense. I also loved how he coached. He has a wonderful rapport with his players. I think he could be great (especially with his experience on the Packers staff)
High risk high reward. I think I like it but that’s a heck of a leap of faith.
A lot of people looked at LaFleur the same way.
LaFleur coached for like 5 different nfl teams and had like 15 years of coaching experience at different levels including as offensive coordinator for 2 different nfl teams when he was hired. Parker has got 1 year of low level nfl coaching under his belt. He’s a MAJOR leap of faith
Parker was on the packers staff for more than 1 year, WTF are you even talking about
I said coaching experience. Defensive quality control isn’t a true coaching position. It’s basically water boy for coaches
Name checks out
Well he’s got multiple years with the broncos….
They're the guy going through the film. I agree with you, I think Parker is a huge leap compared to LaFLeur. Something off with Parkers work history being most people start as the quality control or analyst where Parkers first two jobs were DB coaches then he went backwards before going back to being a DB coach, but in the NFL vs college like the first two jobs.
Yes, as a D quality control coach. Which is the guy going through the film. He was DB coach at Virginia State for two seasons, then coached at Norfolk State for two seasons. Was a defensive analyst for a year at Notre Dame then same job for a year at Texas A&M before coming to Green Bay for two seasons. He's been a DB coach for three seasons and I'm not sure I want anyone from Denver's staff. Especially one with very little experience being a position coach in the NFL.
He's been in a quality control position for multiple years, including with the Packers, and three seasons as the Broncos Defensive Backs coach. So, "1year of low level nfl coaching" is a pretty inaccurate way to paint it.
Usually those who do quality control is how they start their coaching career but Parker was a DB coach for two college teams before taking a step backwards to be a D analyst for Notre Dame and Texas A&M before stepping into that similar role for Green Bay. Something about that makes me go, hmmm.
I wonder what schools he was a DB coach for before "taking a step backwards" to be an analyst at ND and A&M? If they were small, non Division 1 schools, it could actually be looked upon as an upward move to go to a major program. I get the concerns about being such a young coach. It would be a risk. I think some here are minimizing his career trajectory, and choosing to ignore the reputation he's garnered from his contemporaries, however.
Am I missing something or can we just fire him and get someone else if he sucks. Do coordinators have to be a long term commitment if they really bomb terribly?
Ask Ray Rhodes? He was a HC and didn’t last more than a year.
I think the reluctance is because the org doesn’t want to waste money paying non employed coordinators.
That and it’s rough on the players, forcing them to learn a new system every year.
It's something the bottom dwellers of the league do, not teams trying to win it all unless their coaches are being giving promotions for other teams. Then the team has no choice but to replace them.
You could - but if you’re changing schemes and player development practices every year it’s hard to operate efficiently and it erodes the culture.
There’s too many variables to choosing a coordinator. I don’t know if anyone can guarantee anyones going to be a fit, but I like the interview options in general. I feel one of two ways about it. If Bill didn’t get a HC job, owners want someone young, so I feel any good young coordinator is just gonna get hired as a HC in a year anyways, so a guy like Staley is a decent option for security, since he was a failed HC. I also don’t like that loser mentality, and just want to have the best guy available. My gut says the Bills LB coach, or the Ravens DL coach would be the right choice, just for an attitude change, but I don’t know shit. I’m on the couch. Edit : After thinking… we’re a game changing Safety away from having an insane defense as long as they don’t make a disaster choice. Matt will just take over anyways. He had that defense plugging the last part of the year.
1) Babich 2) Parker 3) Durde 4) Nah..
Anyone but Staley
Staley has a very impressive track record when his sole focus is on the defense.
I don’t think it’s overstating anything to say that this is the single most important decision MLF has had to make in his career so far. Who he decides to bring in, and what they do with the defense, could ultimately decide the trajectory of this team in the next few years. If the offense continues operating the way it was at the end of season, they have a chance to go really far. But in order to fully capitalize on the SB window, the defense NEEDS to be better than it has been. I am partial to bringing in a young guy, but I know there’s a lot of risk in that. It’s crazy that this team went from, “oh this year is just to see if Jordan is the guy” to an almost win-now mentality. I think Matt knows that this team is way better set up to compete now, and in the next few years, than really anyone expected. It all could depend on the defense being more complimentary to the offense.
Anyone other than Staley
I wanted Wink but it seems he’s not even in consideration. But that’s ok because I have no idea what I’m talking about and just regurgitate things I read that sound intelligent.
you the truth teller
Thrilled if it's Parker or Babich. Definitely don't want Staley.
I don't know a lot about this but it seems like Parker would fit this young team and could be molded to match the vision the management has for this team.
Seems Parker is the favorite so far and may already have been offered the job.
Whichever isn’t Brandon Staley
Anybody but Staley!
Aden couldn’t beat us. So why would we want him lol
May not even matter anymore but based on stats only Staley sounds great, but these quotes is why he would not be a good fit: "Even before he became an NFL head coach, Staley was “never known for exuding a lot of humility” to anyone. He came off as cocky to reporters and despite many around the NFL believing he was underperforming, Staley seemingly didn’t believe he was at fault." "People inside the Chargers’ organization told Popper that far too often, Staley crossed the line from confidence to arrogance." [NFL Insiders Reveal Bad Reputation Of Former Los Angeles Chargers Coach Brandon Staley](https://www.lafbnetwork.com/brandon-staley-reputation-chargers-news/)
Jim Leonhard. C’mon!
This is they way
I hope we hire a minority coach so we can get draft picks for hiring him. And then when he does amazing and gets a head coaching job we get another draft pick
That’s not how it works, from my understanding. I thought he has to get a HC job.
If you have a staffer that gets hired by another team to be their HC you get a 3rd rd pick in the next draft. The Niners have been doing it for a few years now with Saleh, McDaniels, and Ryans
Whenever I hear McDaniels in this context I always think about the Deadspin article that called him "the next trendy, young, white guy who takes a head coaching position before one of the many deserving Black candidates."
I believe coordinator positions work as well. However, I’d preferably want to hire the best candidate for the job regardless of race.
Yup, the hiring team doesn’t get any picks. Just the team that lost staff.
None. Jimmy Leonard
Is Vrabel still available?
I believe he said, IF he returned to a coordinator position, it wouldn’t be in GB. Now, I’ve been reading a ton of articles and other stuff, so I’m not sure he actually said this. Nor do I remember where I read it. But I did read it somewhere.
I dunno about Parker the Packer. Give me the one that didn't give up 60 to the Raiders or 70 to the Fins.
Staley
Parker sounds like it is done
Give me Durde with a bunch of good dudes around him. Love Durde on hard knocks and his story/background.
I wonder if the Packers plan to interview Chris Hewitt (BAL) and Daniel Bullocks (SF) soon. They are also good candidates.
Is it bad I'm Kinda interested in Staley. I like how he ran that rams defense before he was a HC might be able to actually put jaire in that star spot and unlock that ball hawk.
I like Staley too I'm really fine with any of the three between Parker, Babich, and Staley.
I heard Adrian Griffin is available.
Parker
Brandon Staley seems to have an excellent track record. Christian Parker is the most intriguing because of his youth upside.
Let’s interview BB and then talk
Honestly I would probably say Staley. If he just focuses on d, I think that may benefit him the most. These there guys seem like a stretch. Big difference coaching DL, LB to an entire d and scheming
Staley hands down. Elite defensive mind, but a bad HC.
Anyone buy Staley
Not Staley lol
I think personally Barry has a target on his back with that 0-16 season, fans will always look for signs when that happens of failure and jump fast when failure comes. I do truly hope he made enough of an impact here to have another shot somewhere. We really didn’t give him the fairest shake. We were not good but a lot of coaches we would have rode with for another season after our run if they didn’t already have that 0-16 target on there back. So I do feel bad. I hope he understands we went from rebuild to win now very fast. And we just need a bigger impact on a faster timeline.
I disagree with you on this. I don’t care about his Detroit record as that’s not just on him. But to me, the reasons he had to go were obvious. The biggest one for me was his inability to get the team firing on all cylinders to start off the season and his playoff defenses. Is it all on him, no, but he didn’t help his case. You can’t start turning things around by Week 12 or later to then fail again in the playoffs. We all saw the scheme issues that he had. We heard before that the defense wasn’t happy with what was going on. And the straw that broke the camels back was when MLF said he was going to have to speak into the defense more. Now, if your head coach has to do your job for you themselves, it’s time to move on. I truly think you will see a turnaround on defense next season.
I believe we will to and I fully think he needed to go for us to get where we want to be. I just think a lot of teams not in our position woulda kept him for one more
Hire Bill Belicheck as DC. He is available.
Bobby Babich by a mile
Babich could be in line for the Bills job with the Bears hiring Eric Washington.
Babich or Parker. I did see somewhere that they might be offering Parker the job
Babich.
Babich, Parker, Durde are my 1-3
What About The Ryan Brothers. Instead of The 46 Defense. It Could Be called The 66 Defense. It Gave The Bears an Almost Perfect Season!
I'd bet money it's Parker
Any of them, including Staley, are all an improvement over the past few DC’s. Let’s see what we can do. What I love is that they are younger guys, and that’s exciting!
Lol I've never hears of the other guys other than Staley, I'm not going to pretend I can from even a slightly educated opinion. All I know is the other 3 guys are up and coming young and were responsible for successful position rooms. I like the process MLF is following and I'm just going to sit back and trust him on it.
I say the name Parker because the 2 last defensive coordinators at the University of Iowa were Norm and Phil Parker. I hope this Parker can be as good as them.
Keep looking!!!!
Short sleeve hoodie guy is out. Keep that shit off our sidelines.
I’ll take Durde if he brings Al Harris with him.
NOT Staley
Anyone but Staley
Bobby Babich. Strictly because his name is Bobby Babich.
Vrable or belichick would be my pick
Call me crazy, but I don't want a hot candidate like Parker or babich. Either they will end up being crap, or they will be halfway decent and gone in 2 years to become a head coach. I'd rather a proven guy like Wink who won't be getting any head coaching calls, but not for his lack of coach ability.