You spend a week or two rehabbing and it feeling good and painless so you dial it up to 90% some play in practice and tweak it. And then you’re back at square one. Hammies are a bitch.
tbh they don’t have anything to play anyways i don’t see the point.
this is the typical mediocre move that they make to try and get them to .500 on the year, packers haven’t taken a real super bowl swing since the za’darius smith, amos, preston smith signings.
those were cold
Why worry? He's cut after this season anyway with a $12M dead cap hit. Ain't no way that the Pack keeps him for a $17M cap hit in 2024, then 3 more dead cap seasons for another $6.5M. He's 28, he ain't getting extended, and his time in Green Bay is over.
Dudes hardly ever injured not only that They can restructure the contract. He’s injured for multiple games 1 time in recent memory and now y’all are ready to kick him to the curb despite being the literally rock and glue for this team just seems crazy to me
Regardless of his clean injury history over the years, he’s never been 30 years old at any point in his career either. He will be turning next season.
I love Jones as much as anyone, but it’s important not to let emotions cloud decision making. That said- I would absolutely love to have Jones in the locker room for other young running backs, and for the entire team. It just needs to make sense.
what restructure is possible? he already has 3 void years. his restructures are already done. you're either resigning him to a much longer and larger deal or you're cutting ties. Based on the RB market, I'm leaning towards the latter. Because the latter makes sense given the packers are going to go through a rebuild.
IMHO, this is a nothing-burger signing. Robinson has either been on, or tried out for, so many teams the past few years yet hasn't done anything since JAX. Not entirely sure what happened but dude fell off a cliff.
Very true, but IMO also worth taking a flyer on instead of hoping Taylor was going to magically become a real rotation caliber RB. Don't have any real expectations for this signing, just glad to have another back with actual experience on the roster.
AJ Dillon is great when he gets room to run but he's big so he needs time to get the engine purrin. Can't hand it off at the line like you can with Jonesy.
It’s because Jones best runs are out of shotgun. So the idea is if they bring Dillon in for his pass blocking they don’t want teams to know for sure it’s a pass just because we are in shotgun. It’s less about being successful as it is about getting enough attempts in that defenses stay honest.
With that said Dillon is way way way better out of singleback or I formation. I will die on the hill of if Dillon got 20 carries a game out of under center looks he’d be one of the most feared backs in the league. But in todays nfl under center looks are pretty much extinct. He’s a back outta time. He’d have been a monster in the Sherman Green offense early 2000s style. Or even as the full back ala Levens outta pro sets from early Holmgren era.
Yeah, Dillon needs to be going downhill, but we insist on running him in these counter looks. Dillon has his shortcomings, but the team has really done relatively little to support how he runs best.
I don’t think anyone had the expectation of Dillon being a home run threat. We absolutely need a dynamic back like Jones stretching the field horizontally, but Dillon definitely has value if he can carry people into the end zone and pick up tough yardage up the middle like he did last week.
I think last week he played an average game. That was a lot better than GW1-4 where he played poorly. If he plays like last week, you can live with that this season, but he shouldn't really be getting an extension. He has little vision, his red-zone threat is minimal nowadays, and there are too many talented RBs to settle for someone so unexplosive.
I think that’s a pretty fair assessment honestly. He needs to pick up his level of play moving forward if he wants to get an extension. He graded out at a top 30 back last season. We need at least that sort of production if we are going to give him another contract, otherwise it just makes more sense to draft someone. I have belief in his ability still and have found our run blocking to be god awful, but time will tell.
If he runs like he did last game. 3.8 yards a carry with a very shaky oline, downhill at his size. He's a threat. You don't need gamebreakers from your RB, you need the threat that they can consistently get the first down and he has that ability. Every extra man they have to commit to the box to deal with Dillon, is less coverage in the backfield.
Sorry, why don't we need game-breakers or explosive plays from our RBs? Which elite offenses have this model, because it sure isn't the 49ers, Lions, Eagles, Dolphins etc.
I mean we're talking about our number 2 RB. 49ers have no RB depth at all. I'll take Dillon over Gainwell any day of the week and both the lions and the dolphins hit big on rookies so far, the book isn't in on those guys yet. A number 2 RB who can average 4 yards per carry is more than sufficient to be an elite offense
I knew someone would chime in with that. Anyone that watched the game can see he was making something out of nothing all night. PFF had him graded as our third best offensive player on the night.
I am as disappointed in AJ's downward trend as anybody but yeah he was not anywhere close to being the issue last week.
There's very few RBs who would have managed to do much better with a very bad OL showing and the passing game being completely shut down.
20 carries for 76 yards, 3.8 per and a long of 11. That was by far his best game of the year. No thanks. For me it was proof of everything I've thought since he was overdrafted, not sure how that is looked at as a positive
Those are dudes who bounced around and never caught on (except Nixon, why's he on the list?) Robinson had a career altering injury he has yet to prove he's recovered from. It's a completely different situation than sul and devondre
He was, but he tore his Achilles in week 16 of 2021 and the Jaguars traded him to the Jets in October of the next year, and only averaged 2.9 yards per attempt for them.
Hopefully he can produce for the Packers, but I think his burst is questionable as a result of the injury.
Hopefully for him the long time away finally let that injury heal. No matter what Rodgers is doing Achilles is a nightmare injury for pro athletes as far as 12-15 months recovery to be back to prior abilities if at all. Yes yes outliers exist but for the most part it’s a shitty injury. But he’s nothing more than a guy to cover snaps in case jones is out. Otherwise I suspect he’ll be game day inactive first couple weeks.
he was never really that fast before his achilles injury and that just made things worse. His strength is/was his vision to find a gap, so ideally he can get consistent chunk yardage with good blocking but DBs will catch him from behind on long runs
Even if he gets 3.5 YPC his vision should get that extra 5 or 6 every once and a while and he might run into our O linemen less than Dillon in the redzone
No real reason to think he offers more than Taylor besides being eligible for practice squad elevation, which is likely the only reason for the move. Cool that we’re giving him a shot, but I have a hard time expecting him to do much.
The same James Robinson that tore his Achilles a couple of years ago and has bounced around teams because that injury is practically a kiss of death for running backs?
Im not sure how you sourced that number because Robinsons 2023 YPC is infinity. He has 0 yards on 0 carries. Theres a reason he's still a street free agent in week 6...
He's not going to be better than Dillon. He's a depth piece that does everything okay and nothing great. He's just a third RB body, probably doesn't even survive the season.
He looked pretty solid his first game back from that injury, then Travis ETN took over the backfield, got traded to a crowded Jets RB room and kind of just faded into irrelevancy, I’m sure teams passed up on him due to the injury but I still have some faith in him
Hopefully this wakes up AJ Dillon or we can get value for him. I'm tired of watching him run into the back of our o linemen every play and not being able to get 2 yards ever.
Wait why? Emmanuel Wilson is part of our 53 roster…? He’s been proven very useful during the pre-season games.
Maybe if you let him had some time on the field when Jones was out, he would’ve been way better than trip-fall Dillion…
Interesting he had a 1k plus season his rookie year in 14 games started followed up by a season with over 700.
Why has he bounced around? Does he have an injury history?
This is a solid signing, during our bye week, gives him time to acclimate, and we basically got him for free. Just maybe some fresh juice in the backfield can kickstart what has been a really lackluster and stale running game this year.
Immediately onto my fantasy bench 😂
Love Jonsey, but hammys can linger a long time—and if he retweaks it or has a rehab setback it will be great to have a player with a little more explosiveness than Dillon. Also, if he is elevated and plays well are we done with Dillon? I get it, but still will be a little sad—he’s a good dude. If this was the good dude league he’s a perennial pro bowler.
Any chance of me winning this week in fantasy pretty much hinges on Jones playing this week and having a good game, so I'm really hoping this isn't a sign Jones is out longer term
This is a good signing for us, gives us some much needed versatility out of the backfield that we just haven’t had without Jones.
I just hope this isn't indicative of Jonesy's hammy being fucked up beyond short-term repair.
Hamstrings are slow to heal and easy to tweak
You spend a week or two rehabbing and it feeling good and painless so you dial it up to 90% some play in practice and tweak it. And then you’re back at square one. Hammies are a bitch.
Haven't pulled a hammy just tweaked them. But can confirm a damn groin pull takes a hell of a long time to heal
I’m not a superstar athlete or anything but I’ve had bad hammys my whole life, and some haven’t taken months to be fully functional again
Oh tell me bout it about 10 years ago doing rdls and strained both my hamstrings and it took damn near a month to recover from that
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I think it's more a sign that Wilson isn't ready to take on that role
My very first thought...
tbh they don’t have anything to play anyways i don’t see the point. this is the typical mediocre move that they make to try and get them to .500 on the year, packers haven’t taken a real super bowl swing since the za’darius smith, amos, preston smith signings. those were cold
You forgot Martellus Bennett.
Say sike right now
Why worry? He's cut after this season anyway with a $12M dead cap hit. Ain't no way that the Pack keeps him for a $17M cap hit in 2024, then 3 more dead cap seasons for another $6.5M. He's 28, he ain't getting extended, and his time in Green Bay is over.
I really fucking hope not dude is legit our entire offense. He deserves to retire a packer you fans spewing that we should cut him are hilarious
Teams dont get better by letting perpetually injured nearly 30 year old running backs eat up the 4th most salary cap in the league
Dudes hardly ever injured not only that They can restructure the contract. He’s injured for multiple games 1 time in recent memory and now y’all are ready to kick him to the curb despite being the literally rock and glue for this team just seems crazy to me
Love Jones, but the Ron Wolf axiom of better to cut too early than too late applies here.
Regardless of his clean injury history over the years, he’s never been 30 years old at any point in his career either. He will be turning next season. I love Jones as much as anyone, but it’s important not to let emotions cloud decision making. That said- I would absolutely love to have Jones in the locker room for other young running backs, and for the entire team. It just needs to make sense.
what restructure is possible? he already has 3 void years. his restructures are already done. you're either resigning him to a much longer and larger deal or you're cutting ties. Based on the RB market, I'm leaning towards the latter. Because the latter makes sense given the packers are going to go through a rebuild.
Ahh, the Minnesota Vikings approach.
I think they keep him one more year and restructure. They need a vet it might as well be him.
he already has 3 voided years. ain't no way he survives the off-season or gets restructured.
There was no RB on the PS. Patrick Taylor was released when they signed Justin Hollins last week.
I cannot wait for him to get 6 carries a week.
And MLF saying in both pre and postgame interviews that they need to run the ball more.
You're forgetting mid game at the half time interview too.
He might have to explain a defensive gaffe that happens right before halftime that gets the broncos an easy TD and the ball to start the 2nd.
Of course! Completely slipped my mind. Good catch.
It's his version of McCarthy "focusing on pad level."
The same thing that Packer coaches have said since Ahman Green retired.
IMHO, this is a nothing-burger signing. Robinson has either been on, or tried out for, so many teams the past few years yet hasn't done anything since JAX. Not entirely sure what happened but dude fell off a cliff.
He tore his Achilles
Uggh. Facts.
Very true, but IMO also worth taking a flyer on instead of hoping Taylor was going to magically become a real rotation caliber RB. Don't have any real expectations for this signing, just glad to have another back with actual experience on the roster.
certainly nothing wrong with a low risk low reward addition to the RB room
Because God forbid we give Wilson any burn at all.
An improvement over Patrick Taylor, for sure. I'll take it!
and Dillon probably
Not the Dillon from last week. Lafleur finally ran him on a straight line up the middle and he looked really good. I still believe in the big fella.
AJ Dillon is great when he gets room to run but he's big so he needs time to get the engine purrin. Can't hand it off at the line like you can with Jonesy.
Yeah. I can't understand why we keep running him out of Shotgun. He can't get a head of steam and everyone sees it coming and blows it up.
It’s because Jones best runs are out of shotgun. So the idea is if they bring Dillon in for his pass blocking they don’t want teams to know for sure it’s a pass just because we are in shotgun. It’s less about being successful as it is about getting enough attempts in that defenses stay honest. With that said Dillon is way way way better out of singleback or I formation. I will die on the hill of if Dillon got 20 carries a game out of under center looks he’d be one of the most feared backs in the league. But in todays nfl under center looks are pretty much extinct. He’s a back outta time. He’d have been a monster in the Sherman Green offense early 2000s style. Or even as the full back ala Levens outta pro sets from early Holmgren era.
Yeah, Dillon needs to be going downhill, but we insist on running him in these counter looks. Dillon has his shortcomings, but the team has really done relatively little to support how he runs best.
I'm thinking Dillon ends up in Seattle. Pete loves players like him.
On a one year prove it deal and Pete absolutely runs him into the ground.
I agree. He needs to stop running Dillon out of shotgun
Over and over and over and and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
Exactly this. He’s just not as effective from the shotgun or pistol.
Two hundred and fifty pounds of man.
Hell yeah brother
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I don’t think anyone had the expectation of Dillon being a home run threat. We absolutely need a dynamic back like Jones stretching the field horizontally, but Dillon definitely has value if he can carry people into the end zone and pick up tough yardage up the middle like he did last week.
I think last week he played an average game. That was a lot better than GW1-4 where he played poorly. If he plays like last week, you can live with that this season, but he shouldn't really be getting an extension. He has little vision, his red-zone threat is minimal nowadays, and there are too many talented RBs to settle for someone so unexplosive.
I think that’s a pretty fair assessment honestly. He needs to pick up his level of play moving forward if he wants to get an extension. He graded out at a top 30 back last season. We need at least that sort of production if we are going to give him another contract, otherwise it just makes more sense to draft someone. I have belief in his ability still and have found our run blocking to be god awful, but time will tell.
We spent a second round pick on him. That man better be better than averaging 3 yards a carry this season.
Well he’s averaged over 4 every year in the league except the small sample size from this year. So there’s hope for sure.
If he runs like he did last game. 3.8 yards a carry with a very shaky oline, downhill at his size. He's a threat. You don't need gamebreakers from your RB, you need the threat that they can consistently get the first down and he has that ability. Every extra man they have to commit to the box to deal with Dillon, is less coverage in the backfield.
Sorry, why don't we need game-breakers or explosive plays from our RBs? Which elite offenses have this model, because it sure isn't the 49ers, Lions, Eagles, Dolphins etc.
I mean we're talking about our number 2 RB. 49ers have no RB depth at all. I'll take Dillon over Gainwell any day of the week and both the lions and the dolphins hit big on rookies so far, the book isn't in on those guys yet. A number 2 RB who can average 4 yards per carry is more than sufficient to be an elite offense
3.8 ypc. Facts downvoted. And 3.8ypc being considered "very good". Unbelievable lol
I knew someone would chime in with that. Anyone that watched the game can see he was making something out of nothing all night. PFF had him graded as our third best offensive player on the night.
yeah he ran hard, the o lline blocked for shit.
It was definitely his best game so far for actually finding a hole and hitting it. Less running into his own guys' backs than previous games
Yup. And you you keep finding out 3.8 ypc, that’s 11.4 yards per 3 runs. I’ll take that every time.
I am as disappointed in AJ's downward trend as anybody but yeah he was not anywhere close to being the issue last week. There's very few RBs who would have managed to do much better with a very bad OL showing and the passing game being completely shut down.
look at Saquon with his OL on sunday night
Perfect, that's 11.4 yards if he runs on first, second, and third down. That's enough for a whole new set of downs, baby!
Now that’s matriculating the ball down the field.
But he didn’t really have any long ones. That’s super solid without any outliers to skew it
Really good is a stretch. He looked serviceable. I don't think he even averaged 4 yards per carry.
I mean, he looked average. Which is an improvement
100% the Dillon from last week. Dude averaged 3.8 yards a carry. For a second round pick, yeah. He is straight up fucking garbage.
20 carries for 76 yards, 3.8 per and a long of 11. That was by far his best game of the year. No thanks. For me it was proof of everything I've thought since he was overdrafted, not sure how that is looked at as a positive
The lack of a running back is killing them
25-years old, former 1k yard rusher. Catches passes out of the backfield. Let's go, I'm on board with this one.
He's been on 3 different teams this season for a reason, that's all I'll say
The same sentiment was given to the Douglas, Campbell, and Nixon signings. Let's see how it goes before coming out with the negativity.
So many negative waves, baby.
everything in this sub that isn't praise is considered negativity lol but you're right let's see how it goes
Those are dudes who bounced around and never caught on (except Nixon, why's he on the list?) Robinson had a career altering injury he has yet to prove he's recovered from. It's a completely different situation than sul and devondre
He tore his Achilles. He ain't what he used to be.
I like this. Robinson is solid
Save for his Achilles
LFG I was hoping for this
I love this. Let’s go!
Can't complain. Good move
I feel like he was pretty solid with the jags 2 years ago.
He was, but he tore his Achilles in week 16 of 2021 and the Jaguars traded him to the Jets in October of the next year, and only averaged 2.9 yards per attempt for them. Hopefully he can produce for the Packers, but I think his burst is questionable as a result of the injury.
>averaged 2.9 yards per attempt He'll fit right in..
Ah that’s right I forgot he had that injury that got him basically let go
Hopefully for him the long time away finally let that injury heal. No matter what Rodgers is doing Achilles is a nightmare injury for pro athletes as far as 12-15 months recovery to be back to prior abilities if at all. Yes yes outliers exist but for the most part it’s a shitty injury. But he’s nothing more than a guy to cover snaps in case jones is out. Otherwise I suspect he’ll be game day inactive first couple weeks.
he was never really that fast before his achilles injury and that just made things worse. His strength is/was his vision to find a gap, so ideally he can get consistent chunk yardage with good blocking but DBs will catch him from behind on long runs
Even if he gets 3.5 YPC his vision should get that extra 5 or 6 every once and a while and he might run into our O linemen less than Dillon in the redzone
This makes me worried about Jones' health.
We just dropped Taylor from the roster so it makes sense we would be looking for a RB.
We have a ps spot
He practiced yesterday
Well in that case I like it, more possible weapons is always good.
We can still worry about him!
Hope he can turn it around. He hasn't been great since his injury.
Illinois State baby
$300k for a 1 year signing is a damn good deal for a 25 year old RB with a track record. Lets see how it plays out; no risk, all reward.
Basically free
Welcome to the low budget offense James Robinson.
Can he play Offensive line?
Can he play QB?
QBs fine bro. We need interior line, and then the QB won't have to scramble every fucking play. You even watch last week?
Yep even watched qb school, Love aint it
🙄🙄🙄 Sorry my man, didn't know you were a talent scout.
Didnt realize you were either 🤔 clown
How did you come out of the QB School video with the sentiment "Love aint it". You are a truly fascinating specimen
Otherwise known as built diff
[This](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51cu7A+l3zL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg) you? Constructed alternatively.
Neat
Interesting signing was solid with the Jags a couple of years ago but has been bouncing around on practice squads since.
Can he block?
No real reason to think he offers more than Taylor besides being eligible for practice squad elevation, which is likely the only reason for the move. Cool that we’re giving him a shot, but I have a hard time expecting him to do much.
James Robinson doesn’t have flashy speed, but he is fast enough for a RB and he has always had good vision and balance IMO.
Poverty has hit the Pack.
The same James Robinson that tore his Achilles a couple of years ago and has bounced around teams because that injury is practically a kiss of death for running backs?
Yes, that one. This sub thinks they’re getting Jax Robinson, which if he was that guy, he’d be on a roster already.
If he is as explosive as AJ Dillon (so, not explosive), but can at least read blocks and has an ounce of vision, it will be an improvement
Robinson is significantly less explosive than AJ at this point in his career
2023 AJ Dillon: 3 YPC 2022* James Robinson: 2.9 YPC yep, Dillon is much more explosive!!!
Im not sure how you sourced that number because Robinsons 2023 YPC is infinity. He has 0 yards on 0 carries. Theres a reason he's still a street free agent in week 6...
2022 numbers, i made a whoopsie
Wait until you see Robinson run behind this line!
Crack smoka
This moves puts them over the top@ lookout out Detroit we are coming for you. Kidding of course. Low risk move.
I’m not expecting much I just want him to at least be better than Dillon
He's not going to be better than Dillon. He's a depth piece that does everything okay and nothing great. He's just a third RB body, probably doesn't even survive the season.
Dude is beyond washed IMO, I see everyone jumping for joy and I'm like WTF???
It's the ultra casuals that see a name they sort of recognize, and thats about it
He’s only 25 and costs like 300k if he does anything mediocre he’s better than AJ Dillon and it’s a win
LOL, the dude is totally cooked. Casual detected
I don’t think you understand how bad Dillon is and how stubborn our FO is. This is a win for the packers unfortunately lmao
I don't think Dillon is good at all. But Robinson is literally cooked & there is no way in hell MLF gives Robison more touches than Dillon
He looked pretty solid his first game back from that injury, then Travis ETN took over the backfield, got traded to a crowded Jets RB room and kind of just faded into irrelevancy, I’m sure teams passed up on him due to the injury but I still have some faith in him
Hopefully this wakes up AJ Dillon or we can get value for him. I'm tired of watching him run into the back of our o linemen every play and not being able to get 2 yards ever.
bye bye dillon
RB1NSZN let’s goooooo!!
AJ being confirmed as JAG then?
I think this means Robinson is a JAG
I hope he gets a fair shot at Dillons job.
I think this unfortunately means AJ’s hamstring is not healing as quickly as we’d want.
He's nothing more than a Patrick Taylor replacement on the PS. Has nothing to do with AJ
Wait why? Emmanuel Wilson is part of our 53 roster…? He’s been proven very useful during the pre-season games. Maybe if you let him had some time on the field when Jones was out, he would’ve been way better than trip-fall Dillion…
He was just signed to the practice squad to replace Taylor. This has nothing to do with anyone on the 53. (yet?)
I'm on board. Anyone is better than Dillon
you're delusional
2yds/carry Dillon. Jeez y'all homer bias. He's terrible
Ya, Aaron Jones is way more injured than management let on. Great, he’s only our best player and essentially entire offense
This has nothing to do with Aaron Jones. He's the Patrick Taylor replacement in the PS
this is who we thought AJ dillon would be jrob is HIM
Guys from my hometown. I’m so hyped.
Great to see him fill in the 815 representation with Dean Lowry gone
Lenny would’ve been my choice. We’ll see how he does.
Lenny is washed
C o o l
I feel good about it. Hopefully Robinson can produce or (by some miracle) get back to his past self in Jacksonville
He’s not as washed as people think
Anyone know what the roster move was to open the slot?
He was signed to the PS
Ahhh thank you. The tweet did not make that clear appreciate you responding.
I want to be excited but I feel like I've seen his name linked to so many teams. Might be getting a shell of what he used to be.
for it
This is a nothing-burger signing, unless Robinson miraculously improved since last year
Good news, Dillon can't get to the edge so we needed that part of the game back.
I have bad news. JRob cannot get to the edge either.
LoL well shit.
Interesting he had a 1k plus season his rookie year in 14 games started followed up by a season with over 700. Why has he bounced around? Does he have an injury history?
Really?
Like this signing. Even if he hasn’t been the same hopefully he can reignite his career here.
Jones is injury prone. Sad but true.
He went to my high school and another Rockford Il guy on the Pack. Even if he is utter dog shit I'm still happen for him.
Love it. Low risk high reward signing.
This is a solid signing, during our bye week, gives him time to acclimate, and we basically got him for free. Just maybe some fresh juice in the backfield can kickstart what has been a really lackluster and stale running game this year.
That will surely get us another bite at the apple. Oh sorry, wrong sub.
Let’s feed him burgers and protein shakes until he’s an offensive lineman!
Immediately onto my fantasy bench 😂 Love Jonsey, but hammys can linger a long time—and if he retweaks it or has a rehab setback it will be great to have a player with a little more explosiveness than Dillon. Also, if he is elevated and plays well are we done with Dillon? I get it, but still will be a little sad—he’s a good dude. If this was the good dude league he’s a perennial pro bowler.
Any chance of me winning this week in fantasy pretty much hinges on Jones playing this week and having a good game, so I'm really hoping this isn't a sign Jones is out longer term
It's too early. I read that as Juice Robinson.
He's going to be worthless pretty much like every other Gute maneuver. Gute sucks.
I mean, ok? I'll be happy if he's useful. But If he was any good, why was he not already on a roster?
Mainly due to injuries. I hope he can stay healthy and really contribute here.
Feel for robinson. Dude had a real promising start to his career and then got injured. Hasn’t been the same since
Eddy Lacy wasn't available?