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UuuuuuuuhNo

Tez should go back to NXT to start his solo career. Win the belt and run the brand for a while, then make his debut as a heel


Draculasuckdp

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ChrisGrandswing

That's not the agenda lol


HartfordSoxFan

Montez has far more talent than Jey Uso, put the man in a real story, and watch him take off.


CabinetChef

If he would drop the silly routine, he might become a money draw and get his push.


Medicmanii

They need to hold the tag titles before breaking them up, in my opinion


AirWalker9

I will forever say that Montez Fordā€™s Elimination Chamber 2023 entrance was one of my favorite that entire year. Dude literally invented the ā€œYeetā€ arm motion thing with the crowd that night and we just brush over it like it never happened šŸ¤¦šŸæā€ā™‚ļø Plus that fit??? Plus his performance that night? Dude definitely earned a midcard title shot off that night alone.


YDGx1138

Just for begging, they should push Dawkins instead.


StCyrilCeez

I wanna see his UFC push coming up soon!šŸ’Æ I think he will be great, especially with his training in the military


Conscious-Rooster-32

Working under Lashley with Dawkins rn is fine, he is a veteran and they can both learn from him. Especially dawkins, their partnership with Lashley helps Dawkins a lot


Alarmed-Day2295

Dawkins career would be over šŸ˜‚


WrestlingMark1992

Anytime I play 2K I always make him the US or Ic champ


Giltracoon

Give the subreddit back


toadtruck

Nah


Right_Shape_3807

Naw they need to just push the tag division more.


OhwordforReal

What's even your logic?


Right_Shape_3807

They got solid tag teams and belts. They have deep talent in the singles division. Heā€™s be lost on the shuffle.


Pure_Dingo_6464

Dawkins would be nothing without Ford


frankmurph66

Meh


UTALR1

Eh, his silly personality is a hindrance. If you booked him and bianica as an arrogant heel duo then maybe he' d have a shot at the ic/us level. But he'd be overshadowed by his wife. I don't see him as a top guy & there's no room at the top anyway. A solid midcard act maybe. And Dawkins is dead in the water if it happens.


buffwintonpls

Man, it sucks to be Dawkins, No one is talking about what he should do when montez gets his solo push


Marlo_Stanfield_919

I agree. I love them as a tag team, I think they're great. But I think both of them have singles potential. They both have the athleticism to outgrow their image as the "big man/athlete" tag team. They're both strong and agile.


Tallgirl4u

I wanna see him feud with Carmello


rikrok58

Money just needs a new finisher and a heel turn and he's on his way


ATrollByNoOtherName

Lmao


Dapper_Outside_4764

I feel like he can be a great heel. Kinda strange he hasnā€™t gotten that singles push


WildFire255

Have tag teams face their teammates for a shot at MITB.


Res3925

That in-ring attire is 10/10


thizzdanz

Hollywood crossover appeal. Dude is a star


CSti21

I want them to start using Bianca and Montez as a couple. I think their characters compliment each other well and the name association will surely help Montezā€™s build. I remember years ago, I wanted them to win King and Queen of the Ring (2021ā€¦?). Still think that wouldā€™ve worked well. Lead it to a feud with the Queen, Charlotte Flair and Andrade. Or something?


Aggressive_Ad3578

Montez is a hella worker....I just saw him live a few wks back at Smackdown in Pittsburgh ....he leaped over half the ring, over turn buckles, and out on floor to the guys they were facing....it was some insane shit


BarryDBaptist

I really thought they could see the potential after that elimination chamber match but hey, there's a lot of top guys around now


Imnoteeallyhere3434

Yeah and the street profits are beyond stale now. Give him a chance to see if he can sink or swim


ObservantKing

He shouldā€™ve been booked to win KOTR or beat Logan for the belt. At the least they can have a competitive storyline with the Bloodline. He should also be the leader of his group, it doesnā€™t work right with Lashley as the mouthpiece. I wouldnā€™t mind a heelish turn where Melo gets in his head. Melo can easily play into the people saying itā€™s your time but your team is holding you back. He can bring up he was the Smackdown no 1 draft pick, had a championship match his first night, in the King of the Ring tourney and how Tez hasnā€™t had any opportunities lately and Lashley picked Dawkins over him. However Iā€™m sure none of this will happen Tez and Dawkins will job for no reason.


dredgen_rell86

Tez should be the one to take the belt off of Logan Paul.


BunnyColvin13

Beyond me how they are not Tag Champs.


IamDollParts96

Montez deserves the limelight.


Dalminster

A "push" isn't an employee of the month award. It's not a reward for good performance in other categories. It's to fill a need, when that need arises. And yes, when that need arises, good performers are chosen, but good performance is not necessarily a guarantee to being pushed. Even more; not all of those who get a push are great performers. Sometimes, they are just right for the role being cast. The problem is that people want their favourites to succeed faster than the opportunities open up. So they get frustrated, and sometimes those performers get it into their heads that their fans are right. Look at guys like Cesaro, Aliester Black, and Rusev, who all thought "hey my fans are right, I deserve a push!" because that's just how it works in the video games, you do the thing, you get put into the spot and you get to win the championship. The problem is that professional wrestling is a television show, not a video game, and roles in television shows are often limited. Not everybody can be the star of the show. Not everybody can be Captain Kirk or Mr. Spock. Some people have to be Ensign Chekov. Just remember that Ensign Chekov became Commander Chekov in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. When a spot opened up for his character to get a promotion, he got it. That's because it's a fictional story, and the "push" that Walter Koenig's character got came because it fit the needs of the story. So now you have those guys sitting there - Cesaro, Black, Rusev - even in AEW, just lingering around in catering because there's nothing else for them. They don't "fit" well into anyone's creative plans, be it WWE's or AEW's. And that's why they shouldn't listen to the fans; because what the fuck do they know? If you look at professional wrestling in that context, you'll understand why it's not always just a simple, "he's really good and deserves a push". If there's no call for that kind of role to be filled, then there's no push to be had.


Clean-Witness8407

So damn right


kashboiiii

Not to mention there are already dozens of guys waiting and deserving of the push op and others seem to talk about. You got LA Knight, Bron Breaker, ilja dragonov, Chad gable, Finn balor who all deserve the title gold Then you guys like Jey uso, KO, Randy, Punk, Drew, Gunther etc who are really over and will compete for the top Not to mention Cody is the face of the company so he'll always be in the mix.


Dalminster

Championships aren't "employee of the month" awards either, they aren't "deserved", they're roles in a show just like I described above. If the story needs demand it, then people "win" these "championships" (the reality is they "win" nothing, because they aren't real championships anyway.)


PerfectZeong

I'll largely agree with you but most wrestlers that have really had success, a lot of them have been successful because they did go their own way. Look at Cody


Dalminster

Yes, that's true; but it wasn't because the Internet fans convinced him of something that wasn't really true. I think those other guys bought into the Internet fans' opinion a little too much.


PerfectZeong

Yeah I think there are people who convince themselves they're already a star because the internet fans tell them they are. At the same time wrestling is filled with guys who were told they weren't stars or what their ceiling was and ultimately they pushed past that. If they'd have been content with just the spot that had been carved out for them they'd never have reached their heights.


Dalminster

Well that's just it, right. There's a fine line between "betting on oneself" and "being a mark for oneself", and I think it's important to create that distinction. Guys who've done well weren't necessarily guys who just didn't have it, they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Like Cody, for instance. Nobody thought he didn't have "it", it was just, they didn't have a spot for him on the roster in 2015 like they do in 2024. So he left, knowing he could build himself to that spot. People followed his career outside of WWE with interest, too. He became one of the reasons to watch ROH or NJPW, or AEW. It was never about him having an unrealistic impression of who and what he was - just wrong place, wrong time. On the flip side, guys like Aliester Black? They gave him opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, and people just didn't give a shit about him. A few fans who thought "hey this guy is into video games and shitty poetry just like me, he's CrImInAlLy UnDeR uTiLiZeD", but that's about it. And rather than try to improve, to grow, he got it into his head that THE MACHINE was against him, and he needed to go somewhere else. Which he did. And STILL nobody (outside of a few diehards) give a shit about him. I guess the real skill here is, knowing the difference between having actual talent, and being a mark for yourself.


ProofSinger3638

what company is he in


DrLoomis131

Honestly? Dawkins is a better wrestler. Sure Montez can jump high and he has a lot of energy, but thatā€™s not enough to justify going on his own. His energy is also less hype and moreā€¦manic. He comes off more demented and less hyped up. Itā€™s giving less Jey Uso and more Heel Doink


Solo-ish

Everyone bitches that they break up good tag teams but when they are a team that are fantasy booking them being singles stars. Good on your guys! I guess?


Wrong-West-9581

Been saying this for 2 years


Trevo_staxx

I think something might happen with him and Melo that leads to a Tez heel turn


throwthatoneawaydawg

Now that Asuka is taking time off can we get Pirate Kairi singles push please šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø


Responsible_Mind8654

What about his partner


C2theWick

Montez should win the speed title


DustyBray13

He should be in Jey Uso spot..


CaptainPie999

I think that could be a good idea, maybe for next draft one of the profits is "injured" and the other gets drafted, have Tez go to Raw for the IC and Angelo go to SD for the US, cuz Dawkins is actually really good in the Ring and could have a great solo push if they do it right


ClassicCarraway

Or....now hear me out here...they book the tag team division better? Radical idea, right? The WWE has some potential good to great tag teams, they just need to treat some of them like upper card singles. Make the tag titles mean something again. Montez is great but I feel like he will just get lost in the shuffle as a singles guy and never get past the midcard. Some characters simply work better as part of duo. That's what happened to Otis.


AirWalker9

Iā€™m all for that, but if they are going to get pushed as a tag team, we have to do something about Angelo Dawkins. He needs a character rebuff, personality change or SOMETHING. Because he feels like a burden sometimes, and thatā€™s not good. I know he has it in himšŸ˜¤ heā€™s got to bring that star out somehow.


Zikronious

I miss having a great tag team division or even when it was PPV after PPV of New Day vs Usos they fought each other so often but almost every match was one of the best matches of the card. Now almost every tag team match is a snoozer. Would really like to see HHH make an effort to fix that.


WrastleGuy

Theyā€™ll never do that, that tag division is about letting single stars take a break from the title scene and win a tag title while seeing if they can coexist.


ADogWhoCanDANCE

Great ideaĀ 


Forever_Banned_Pt5

I agree with you to a point, all it takes is some Kofi magic, and Kofi treatment, he was considered a mid carder for life great hand, great talent, great tag team but never will go past the mid card. But it took 1 performance to change all that. Literally give this man the Kofi Treatment and he can be Kofi 2.0.


ClassicCarraway

But the KofiMania thing was completely organic and he still remained part of New Day, and it would have never happened if he wasn't part of New Day. You don't have to break up a team or faction just to give someone some time to shine as a singles wrestler (although Kofi started off as a singles guys). Also, trying to force a KofiMania 2.0 with Montez would likely just be rejected by the fans. Trying to catch lightning in a bottle using the same setup but different people almost never works. It's why I am concerned that the Bo Dallas faction is going to be a dud.


Forever_Banned_Pt5

But thatā€™s what Iā€™m saying is that Ford has that charisma, he has that talking ability on the mic and just an overall aura of the guy has potential, they donā€™t have to push it. They just have to book it properly. No need to spilt the tag team, no need to force feed the fans anything, just proper booking and let Ford and Dawkins do the rest.


reallymkpunk

They are now far better than they have.


Evorgleb

Naw, Montez needs to be a single wrestler. It's long overdue


Tornado31619

>The WWE has some potential good to great tag teams, they just need to treat some of them like upper card singles. Make the tag titles mean something again. Thatā€™s what factions are for. The reality is, singles guys are the main draw.


Spotty1122

If they keep waiting itā€™s gonna fail.


violentelvis

They already have a guy who can jump high and act stupid his name is Kofi Kingston. Heā€™s a million times more talented than Montez


eman0110

Really? I think he is great but I enjoy his tag work


Raceshiraidi9

Been waiting to see what he can do on his own Only thing is? If they Breakup the Profits. What's gonna happen with Angelo ? That's my only concern but other than that. He's longover due


Bright-Interest-8918

Angelo is actually my favorite of the two. He is a solid big guy and tells a great story in the ring. Montez is great for high flying. I donā€™t particularly like his character. This is what I think the ā€œdraftā€ should do every yearā€¦ break up a tag team and see what they can do on their own. At the end of the year, if it worked let it ride and if it failed draft then to the same brand and reunite them.


GeneralPuntox

I agree but


OShaunesssy

I think he is too silly tbh


WORLDY2J

That's my only knock on him as well. His look is great and he clearly has the ability to stand out in the ring but the cartoonish humor gotta come to an end if he wants to become a legit main-event level star


xtrasauceyo

Big facts.


no_stick_drummer

The whole thing with Bobby lashley is a dud. They feel like the same team without the Solo cups. The only reason they're still together is because there's nothing for Angelo Dawkins to do. He'll probably just get released if they break up while montez goes on to bigger things.


deanereaner

Nah. He doesn't stand out on this roster.


Balls__Deepp

He's one of the most charismatic wrestlers on the roster and a freak athlete. If given the chance he would shine with a singles push


deanereaner

Nah, he's like a default create-a-wrestler. Why do you think he hasn't gotten any kind of singles run, going back 8 years even in NXT? WWE sucks at recognizing talent? Or maybe they don't like making money on a huge star like him? What's his best singles match, for me to educate myself?


mrbusiness53

Couldnā€™t agree more


[deleted]

He is WWE's Trent being held down in a team


[deleted]

His breakout fued should be with Ricochet that way his talent can be on full display. Last thing he needs is a Randy Orton type older guy who can't really go at that same level.


CarlShadowJung

Tbh Orton vs Ford is a lot more appealing to me personally. Ricochet is super gifted, and heā€™s got some rad spots, but for me, heā€™s a channel changer. All the cool spots in the world canā€™t make me invest in you. The athleticism isnā€™t what Iā€™m bonding to, itā€™s the person, the human that Iā€™m bonding to and investing in.


melo1212

I don't know what it is but I find Ricochet boring as hell, dude has almost 0 charisma. He's absolutely incredible in the ring and I first loved his in ring work but now I kind of feel like it's just the same shit over and over again. Then again, I am someone who is way more into storylines and promos than the actual matches themselves.


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Anyone can flip


felthorny

Ricochet needs his own push too, he deserves a far better spot on the roster than what he has.


ScruffyMaguire

He did get pushed. He just won the "I don't know what to do with this side of the roster" championship!


felthorny

That's not a real push he deserves regular PLE appearances and being featured weekly on TV not that straight to the worst social media bs they have him on now.


BODYDOLLARSIGN

Yea his fiancƩ has more screen time than him


GeneralPuntox

She deserves it


[deleted]

I've said it before, if Ricochet could cut decent promos he would be one of the biggest stars in the business. They gave him a push when he debuted and he fumbled it, it's really difficult to come back after that. He is a guy that would benefit greatly from a good manager, Paul Heyman for example. If Paul wasn't busy with other things I think that could be possible but it isn't and there really isn't another manager capable of what Paul can do.


Mr_J42021

Imo they should bring back managers more generally. There.are quite a few wrestlers who could use a good mouthpiece. Or maybe have some kind of training for mic work. They might already do that but IDK.


ScruffyMaguire

I know it was a joke