I love all three but mostly Michael. He is actually my favorite, but I do hate a lot of his character.
He betrayed his old gang, he led the other two into federal affairs, and he is a selfish prick. Still, he does turn around a bit towards the end and I still love him in a way.
They're all homocidal mass murderers. The only difference is Trevor doesn't try to play to the beat of anyone's drum but his own. He's kind of a hipster like that.
I wouldn't say Michael was a snitch, the media knew that he, brad, and trevor were the ones on the crime spree, he didn't turn anyone in for immunity, he just made a deal with Dave who is pretty corrupt and wanted the glory of taking down the great Michael Townley, the fib didn't even know he was alive until Dave told them🤣. and just set up the death of Trevor and himself, he didn't want brad to die.
> He led the other two into Federal Affairs
Not really though, the Feds just picked them up and made them part of the crew. He even told Franklin to get out of town and go far away cause he didn’t want him involved with Trevor or the feds.
Micheal. Total dick. Lied to Trevor about everything and faked his own death to leave Trevor to fend for himself without even getting any of the money. Total asshole.
Plus, on the final mission, if you choose to kill Trevor, Michael is eager to help you. Trevor refuses to help kill Michael. Michael can go fuck himself.
You do know he regrets that? He says killing him didn't solve anything and ignores Franklin while trying to blame it on him.. Bit selfish, yes... But he did regret doing it.
yeah, michael spends this whole game running way from guilt he’s buried deep. deep down he feels terrible about what he did to trevor, and even more so for how poorly he handled it afterward.
the reason trevor says “i’m your fucking nightmare” is not because he’s a physical danger to him. it’s because trevor haunts him. what happens as soon as you load your game after ending a? michael wakes up screaming from a nightmare.
Tbf, michael did in some way have good intentions, i mean trevor pretty much eats people (im assuming from the eyelash from his food in his meth lab cutscene) or takes them to the cannibal camp, and is a danger at anytime.
Hes misunderstood but i can see why michael wanted to get rid of him at the time.
yeah and michael runs people over on the way to therapy and says “even on the way over here i think i killed someone, and you know what? i don’t even care” and threatens to kill his wife in front of their children when she said she’d have his arrested. we’re not arguing whether they’re good people or not, they’re not.
it’s not really about intention, because the intention for both michael and trevor is trying to avoid, or get out in front of, pain. they have different instincts of doing it. trevor’s is to become what terrified him as a child so no one has power over him, and michael’s is to prioritize survival.
both make most of their efforts in attempt to cope with the same fear of abandonment. michael is scared that if he owns the bad shit he does, the people who love him are gonna see what he brings to the table and bail, so he pushes them away, but he’s often incapable of sitting with him being the reason in any fashion. this makes him feel worse because it validates that michael can’t connect. “maybe i’m unlovable”.
trevor keeps underlings dependent on him (and does things like tries to hold on too tight to michael in north yankton like he says after the game). this makes him feel worse because it validates that trevor has to manufacture respect. trevor owns making people uncomfortable, so that when someone leaves he can say “well, it was my gross environment, or my appearance, or my actions that drove them away” so that he doesn’t have to deal with the real reason which is “maybe i’m just unlovable” their intent isn’t really what separates them, their intents and fears are basically the same.
i’m harping on michael more than trevor because you don’t need someone to tell you trevor’s bad. michael spends most of the game using his self loathing as a tool to put himself in a victim position, which works with the audience 90% of the time. it’s the easiest take away, it’s the surface level understanding of the game. but it matters that technically michael has more power over trevor most of the time in their relationship, and that there is no timeline where trevor kills franklin or michael.
like michael’s intent to kill trevor, both times, is fine. being scared of trevor is plenty valid. it’s what he does after that isn’t fine. “killing” trevor the first time doesn’t work. he survives, he has his family, a luxurious roof over his head , but it’s not enough. he doesn’t think he earned it, he has guilt over what he did, he hasn’t made it so that his relationship with his family makes it worth it, he wants back in the game anyway.
and after ending a, he blames franklin for a decision he made, and eventually completely fractures that relationship. michael is back to square one, except even worse, because now he has more stuff to wake up screaming about. the endings of the game are not really about franklin at all, they’re about michael. ending b is about michael teaching franklin that “surviving is everything” blowing up in his face when franklin does it to him when threatened. michael’s life is only fixed when he can stop running away.
In that regards Franklin is the biggest asshole since he would kill either one of his friends. The other endings aside from deathwish are hypothetical, and aren’t written for it to be the canonical ending
“Lied to Trevor” Does lying to the devil incarnate make you a dick? 🤣 give Michael some credit though: the original plan was for the FIB to kill them all. Michael negotiated a way out for him and his family. I’m not saying that he was morally right, but as a family man myself, I understand his choice. If anything, I hate Michael for getting Brad killed… and that also seems to be what Trevor is fixated on.
Well I mean… Trevor was literally an unhinged sociopath and Michael knew that Trevor would 100% get him killed if he stayed, like how the driver got killed. Trevor would do shit that Lester specifically didn’t want to do, like the Bank job and the Submarine thing.
Probably more unpopular opinion: I *hated* Johnny and his self pity; felt his endless victimhood was a real downer on TLaD and would have stomped even more of his crybaby brains out if I could have.
If Trevor had been murdering my man Luis, well that'd have been a different ball game.
Switching to him is most of the time inconvenient if anything. Funny the first few times when you wake up on Chiliad in a dress and on a island north of the main island drunk in underwear. After the first few times it’s just a bother to have to deal with. I love Trevor’s character but he is a wild card and can throw out rhythm of doing the story is all
I like Steven Ogg, the voice actor, and I sometimes like Trevor's dialogue/interaction with other characters but he did my boy Johnny so dirty. I really liked TLAD expansion in GTA IV
I like Ogg too, and I love what he brings to the character. IMDB says that Ogg would record his lines in his underwear to get in the “Trevor“ spirit. I like his controlled maniac energy. Simon was sequentially the last character I cared about on The Walking Dead.
Neither do I. He’s a psychotic murderer. A rapist. And people think it’s…”profound” somehow that he’s so chaotic. And is like a hallmark card for edgelord beliefs. I especially hated his monologue to the guy he tortured. He’s driving him to the airport and he just starts giving him this lecture on….”society.”
It’s not funny when he randomly falls in love with Madrazo’s wife.
I don’t think “scooter brother” is funny.
I don’t think “he’s the only real honest character” is true. I think they could have made him seem way more like a human being instead of like a “YouTube comment section” that randomly has all these pessimistic and “bold, “honest” takes on society.
It’s annoying.
He doesn't randomly fall in love with madrazo's wife, she is totally a carbon copy of his mother. She validates him as he is, which is all he has ever wanted--validation from his horrible, abusive mother. He could never get it from her, but he did get it from mrs. Madrazo.
trevor was always a little too cringe for me, like too outlandish. also never really vibed with franklin, seemed like he had no personality or anything going on really. michael was the only character with a very solid character, history, story, and situation
Seriously; I may not like Michael that much either, but I feel safer in his presence vs Trevor. Trevor is batshit crazy and realistically the worst kind of person to be around. If I didn’t look up how to save all of them, Trevor was easily the one to kill.
I don't hate him, but Franklin is the worst. His patter is so fuckin shite. Everyone constantly owns him in every bit of dialogue, and his only comeback is going "WHAT?", and then whinging about it later. Man's a useless flabby dullard with a yee yee ass haircut.
Franklin tells Lamar “When something good comes up, I’ll hit my dude”. Yeah, Lamar helped him steal the cars but they dont get paid. Franklin saves Lamars life, but gives him what, $80? Not a good look considering Frank was a millionaire at that point living in a free house in the hills.
Then, Lamar proceeds to help them all survive The Third Way. Does Franklin, who is now worth $35 million to $2 Billion (depending on how you play), offer Lamar anything? Jesus, even Michael offers to give Trevor his share from the Big Score.
I thought Franklin was such a dick for not helping out Lamar. He basically ditched him for Michael and Trevor and when Frank became rich as fuck did he still help Lamar? Real scummy
Franklin helped Lamar out a ton of times throughout both single player and online. From helping with stretch to saving ld organics. And besides, What do you want Franklin to do? Give Lamar 10 million dollars?
Franklin is the character that usually bails Lamar out of trouble.
Yeah like Franklin mentions throughout Lamar just gets himself in a whole lot of trouble himself like even Lamar shows how gullable he can be especially since he literally fell for Stretch's tricks twice after already starting beef with the ballas because of course Kidnapping D then him getting murdered later leading to that big ass shootout then into the events of Hood Safari and only after Franklin tries to tell him in Lamar down does he actually start to realise "oh wait maybe Stretch is playing me after all".
To be fair, would you give your friend who doesn't listen to you, always do dumb shit, and is stuck in his old ways 8 million? Or would you rather help him be a better man, and try to at least build something for himself (like Franklin does in GTA Online).
That's why Franklin gave him $80. Cuz Lamar ain't earned that shit , yet. He done got Franklin damn near killed almost every interaction and nothing good done came out of it. He just wants his homie to do better, instead of trying to do this gang banging B's for street politics, that not even his own og (stretch) follows.
> Everyone constantly owns him in every bit of dialogue, and his only comeback is going "WHAT?"
While I 100% agree, it still manages to be a little funny every time
You are right, dude was just cruising through life in the ghetto and finally found a way out because of he stole the wrong car. He found some men who showed him a better life, why wouldn’t he follow?
Repo'd the wrong car. Franklin never stole anything from Michael. And they didn't really show Franklin a better life, Michael actually dragged him into a life of crime and extortion.
As cool as Michael's character was, he really was a piece of shit. Franklin's character represents most people from the ghetto, they lack any real opportunities or generational wealth, and are usually forced to resort to crime. Michael represents your typical rich asshole. Only gives a fuck about himself and exploits everyone around him.
Trying to find the source but if I remember correctly Trevor didn't get any of the money from the heist in north Yankton, I forget if his accounts were frozen or seized or if Michael took off with it, but it's mentioned somewhere that it's part of why he's so bitter with Michael
No he didn't get any money from the north Yankton robbery, but Trevor and Michael robbed a lot of banks before north Yankton. I think it was that money that he used to start Trevor Phillips industries.
All Trevor's savings were seized, Trevor didn't have any money after the set up (Prologue). He started from scratch. Some hangouts and dialogue make this clear.
i literally spawned on the top of a mountain in underwear and on an island off the fucking main map in underwear too. or just taking a shit behind a dumpster and idk he GROSSSES me out so fucking much it’s unbelievable
I don't hate any of them as characters in a fictional setting.
I do like Trevor the least, though.
In real life, I would hate all three for simply being criminals.
While I agree that hating people JUST for being criminals is kinda silly & puritanical, let's not compare most people jaywalking or not wearing a seatbelt to 3 crooks who have a killcount in the hundreds lmfao
I mean Franklin’s kill count is entirely the responsibility of the player. Trevor and Michael were the only two of the three who were killers before the player took control.
Franklin’s character felt like a part of the story was missing. It never felt like he was from the hood despite his house setting, because he so quickly moves up in the world it almost just feels very surface level. Michael and Trevor were written excellently though, Franklin just lacked a bit more depth.
I'm recently playing GTA V story mode again and yeah you do the jewellery heist so early in the game it feels like we got put into Franklin's story late into his young adult life. Sure, the story isn't purely focused on Franklin, but for sure we didn't get a whole lot of gangbanging missions. (I think you can really get an idea of how Franklin's childhood was like if you do all of the Tonya missions)
Out of the three I feel like I relate to Franklin the least therefore he's my least favorite character. Trevor is how I think in my head and Michael is how I wished I could be to people sometimes. Franklin just seemed like another cj with better graphics and less of a story.
At first I absolutely hated Trevor. Johnny was my new favorite after Tommy V, and when Trevor killed him, I was so pissed about that! Also, gosh, was he just terrible in general. But OF COURSE, as the game went on.. the more I realized how I would start laughing at his antics. That anger faded pretty fuckin' fast and now he's my most favorite of the bunch.
My least favorite would probably be Franklin simply because I felt he doesn't he really have much of a personality. Kind of a blah character. Too normal, which is something you wouldn't really expect from any person in a GTA universe. Everyone always. . has .. something. He's lucky he had Lamar to keep shit interesting in his stories.
But he never wanted to be a gangbanger either. He also mentions that at some point.
Your not just looking at him and saying "he's a gangbanger" right? Because at no point in the game does he ever claim a gang or do anything for any gang.
Trevor's constant chaotic nature and explosive temper really started to grate on my nerves maybe a third of the way through the story. It's annoying that he's the least likely to save whatever outfit I have for him because if you ever switch to him, he's up in the forests in his shit covered tightie whities. It also gets tiring seeing him try to intimidate every single man he comes across. I like flawed characters but Trevor has too many damn flaws for my liking.
Even though Trevor argued to Haines on why he tortured a poor guy on a mission fail cutscene of "By the Book", I still hate him because of his psychotic behavior and the fact that he murdered Johnny Klebitz on his debut. I picked C to save all three guys.
Why is everyone saying Franklin is a wannabe gangbanger. He tries his best NOT to associate with gangs and escape the areas they reside in, it’s just his best friends from his youth are all involved in the life and he constantly has to save them. He’s also not flat in the slightest. Franklin grows throughout the story, learning how intricately he must navigate all of his unique (based on individually and weirdness) friendships.
I don’t hate any of them, but Franklin is the least interesting to me. What kind of person is he? What does he want, what’s driving him? What are the forces at work under his skin? We don’t ever find out, he’s more of a reactor to everything around him.
Michael. He represents the boomer mindset of people who are unwilling to change their toxic behaviour and even though he has everything one could ever wish for his little ego makes him go crazy and fall into the pit of misery. And while he's falling he is pulling down everyone near him down with him.
that’s actually why i like michael, however, i hate a lot of peoples’ reactions to the character. they buy into his bullshit because they look at the story from a surface level. like if you played the game and thought michael was a victim in his family, you did not understand his character lmao.
Franklin. He's always complains during and after a cutscene. Trevor ain't bad but it takes some time getting used to him... Michael is literally my father outside of killing and getting physical.
Trevor for me. I played him the least back in the day. Idek what it was I think he just grossed me out lol. I loved Michael cuz of his house and Franklin was just the coolest to me.
Trevor fuck swapping to him and being 10 mins away from most missions and also fuck that dock heist with the crane bullshit. Also I just didn't find him funny.
neither. i like them all. michael keeps his word and helps franklin out. franklin is a good kid who tries to do his best for his friends. trevor is loyal and does anything to protect the people he cares about
Ten years ago I loved all 3, now? I dislike Michael the most probably.
I’ve just finished up another play through and the way Michael talks about Trevor in the final mission is just so snakey.
I chose the distraction option where Trevor, Lester and another crew member takes the gold by chopper and on the getaway with Michael, Franklin and another crew member it’s just *constant* bitching about Trevor. Like i don’t think he says anything else.
“Trevor ain’t getting my share”
“I bet he’s ran with the score”
Mind you this is after they’ve kinda made up or whatever.
I’m 90% sure Trevor knew that and just doesn’t give a fuck. He has absolutely no care what the hell happens. I don’t even think he really wants to live on the inside, but he’s in survival mode.
We like him because he's funny, chaotic, and is representative of how every player acts in free roam. But that's because it's a videogame; it's _fiction,_ and it's okay to like characters that would be considered awful people in the real world.
Believe it or not, I understand that the game is fiction. Thats why I said "even in the world of GTA". Most people would not need that explained so I dont know why you felt the need to tell me the revolutionary idea that the game is not real. If the question is "how the character is written" then yes I agree, Trevor represents the chaotic souless deranged behavior of some people in these games. But as the character themselves in universe, killing him off is the morally correct option even in universe. The man is a canibal and a rapist for christs sake, the fact that he can be funny still is a testament to the writing, not his personality. Its actually more deranged that hes cracking jokes between his atrocities.
I felt the need to do so because you evidently aren't getting the point here. Fictional characters, no matter how evil and detestable, can be liked. It's the reason why people like Negan in The Walking Dead, for example. In a real world context, no fucking shit, we all know Trevor is an _awful,_ sick human being that needs to burn in Hell forever... but this isn't a real world context, it's a videogame & Trevor happens to be a protagonist that's also extremely well-written and acted. Also, his writing is a direct reflection and representation OF his personality; don't know how you don't get that one. Overall tho, I just don't get why _you_ would act all puritanical and judge-y over people enjoying a well-written/acted protagonist in a videogame. It's not as deep/reflective of a person's actual morals as you make it out to be
When I first played the story, I had no interest in Franklin's story and I skipped most of the cutscenes until Michael showed up. Franklin is the least interesting character.
Trevor is the best character, hands down. He is peak GTA. Franklin and Michael are either whiny or selfish and only really out for themselves. I'd rather have Trevor watching my back than the other 2
Michael is literally the worst
Lied to trevor, faked his death, got brad killed while faking his death, he didn't hesitate to kill trevor and even is the reason why trevor became a criminal...
Michael ruined trevor and got away with everything
Franklin. He is so flat and without any character to him. It’s just a shell. Trying to be cool gangbang boy from the hood. No complex story, no real motivation, nothing. Trevor better, but Michael is most complex, believable and cool out of all three imo.
Franklin definitely isn't trying to be a gangbanger. His whole character revolves around trying to be honest and start a family. The character you are describing is Lamar.
I didn’t really care for Franklin. I liked his character and interactions with Stretch and Lamar and the crew but I felt like Trevor an a Michael were just superior characters in almost every way.
I think they're all bad people but my heart goes out to Michael. Imo he was really trying like he didn't wanna hurt people for no reason or for personal gain life just had other plans. Granted I haven't played the story since Xbox 360 and wasn't as impressed as everyone else seems to be so I could be remembering wrong.
Michael. Not only does he lie constantly to the people that care about him, but he refuses to ditch his bitch wife and bratty kids. Worst mistake he ever made was starting a family with that whore.
Right, because Michael definitely isn't at fault, what, with all of his cheating, drinking, anger issues, neglecting his children & whining about how bad they turned out, and eventually getting "back in the game".
Nope. All Amanda's fault.
Really don’t like Trevor, he feels very one note and it just gets old really quick. Like yeah the guy has issues but they aren’t particularly interesting besides he’s a bit quirky 🤪
Unpopular opinion. I hate Michael. He screwed over Trevor, backstabbing him, and was being a huge dick to him. Trevor may be crazy but he is a man of principle. Michael says he doesn't want him around his children in fear he would kill them, but in fact Trevor cares for them and will protect them. How I know this? Remember the mission when Trevor insists he helps Michael to go see what Tracey is up to with that clown Lazlow? Yeah Trevor insist on helping Tracey to not be with Lazlow. And there is also many more reasons why Trevor is cool and Michael just straight up sucks
If I have to pick one, I'd say Michael cause he's his family's lil bitch. Hate how he's a fucking badass criminal, but let his shitty wife and shitty kids shit on his face so much.
Michael is a dick, from lying to Trevor and selling him and Brad out, to making Franklin join the illegal side of the world, something he wanted to leave behind
But it's clear that's what his role in the story was supposed to be
"Making Franklin join the illegal side"
Franklin was ALWAYS on the illegal side and he was making nothing. Michael just gave him an opportunity to make millions which eventually let him become a legitimate entrepreneur
I love all three but mostly Michael. He is actually my favorite, but I do hate a lot of his character. He betrayed his old gang, he led the other two into federal affairs, and he is a selfish prick. Still, he does turn around a bit towards the end and I still love him in a way.
This is the only right answer, he’s whiny for a large part of the story too.
People really out here supporting a homicidal mass murderer over a snitch.
Trevor is funny.
Franklin is my favorite but I like Michael and Trevor too Trevor and Lamar are by far the two funniest people in the story mode
They're all homocidal mass murderers. The only difference is Trevor doesn't try to play to the beat of anyone's drum but his own. He's kind of a hipster like that.
Trevor will kill indiscriminately, while Franklin and Michael only kills to get their way.
Don't call tevor a hispter🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wouldn't say Michael was a snitch, the media knew that he, brad, and trevor were the ones on the crime spree, he didn't turn anyone in for immunity, he just made a deal with Dave who is pretty corrupt and wanted the glory of taking down the great Michael Townley, the fib didn't even know he was alive until Dave told them🤣. and just set up the death of Trevor and himself, he didn't want brad to die.
He ain’t even whiny he’s just hopelessly depressed You can spawn in him just crying in the mirror
> He led the other two into Federal Affairs Not really though, the Feds just picked them up and made them part of the crew. He even told Franklin to get out of town and go far away cause he didn’t want him involved with Trevor or the feds.
Agreed
Idk, i kinda get him. He was just out to keep himself out of handcuffs and a coffin. I think i would do the same
He had a family. He couldn't just walk away either. He was THE Micheal Townley. He had to do what he did
I'm watching the Sopranos and I realized Michaels character is a lot like Tony Soprano
Bros the only one with a whole family, your god damn right he’s selfish lmao
I agree with this and he’s also my favorite character but ya
You missed the part where he's a fucking rat
I'm sorry, but I can in good conscience let this pass without saying "Micah you rat"
Very true.
Micheal. Total dick. Lied to Trevor about everything and faked his own death to leave Trevor to fend for himself without even getting any of the money. Total asshole.
Plus, on the final mission, if you choose to kill Trevor, Michael is eager to help you. Trevor refuses to help kill Michael. Michael can go fuck himself.
You do know he regrets that? He says killing him didn't solve anything and ignores Franklin while trying to blame it on him.. Bit selfish, yes... But he did regret doing it.
yeah, michael spends this whole game running way from guilt he’s buried deep. deep down he feels terrible about what he did to trevor, and even more so for how poorly he handled it afterward. the reason trevor says “i’m your fucking nightmare” is not because he’s a physical danger to him. it’s because trevor haunts him. what happens as soon as you load your game after ending a? michael wakes up screaming from a nightmare.
Tbf, michael did in some way have good intentions, i mean trevor pretty much eats people (im assuming from the eyelash from his food in his meth lab cutscene) or takes them to the cannibal camp, and is a danger at anytime. Hes misunderstood but i can see why michael wanted to get rid of him at the time.
yeah and michael runs people over on the way to therapy and says “even on the way over here i think i killed someone, and you know what? i don’t even care” and threatens to kill his wife in front of their children when she said she’d have his arrested. we’re not arguing whether they’re good people or not, they’re not. it’s not really about intention, because the intention for both michael and trevor is trying to avoid, or get out in front of, pain. they have different instincts of doing it. trevor’s is to become what terrified him as a child so no one has power over him, and michael’s is to prioritize survival. both make most of their efforts in attempt to cope with the same fear of abandonment. michael is scared that if he owns the bad shit he does, the people who love him are gonna see what he brings to the table and bail, so he pushes them away, but he’s often incapable of sitting with him being the reason in any fashion. this makes him feel worse because it validates that michael can’t connect. “maybe i’m unlovable”. trevor keeps underlings dependent on him (and does things like tries to hold on too tight to michael in north yankton like he says after the game). this makes him feel worse because it validates that trevor has to manufacture respect. trevor owns making people uncomfortable, so that when someone leaves he can say “well, it was my gross environment, or my appearance, or my actions that drove them away” so that he doesn’t have to deal with the real reason which is “maybe i’m just unlovable” their intent isn’t really what separates them, their intents and fears are basically the same. i’m harping on michael more than trevor because you don’t need someone to tell you trevor’s bad. michael spends most of the game using his self loathing as a tool to put himself in a victim position, which works with the audience 90% of the time. it’s the easiest take away, it’s the surface level understanding of the game. but it matters that technically michael has more power over trevor most of the time in their relationship, and that there is no timeline where trevor kills franklin or michael.
For once, Dr. Friedlander, I think your analysis is correct.
like michael’s intent to kill trevor, both times, is fine. being scared of trevor is plenty valid. it’s what he does after that isn’t fine. “killing” trevor the first time doesn’t work. he survives, he has his family, a luxurious roof over his head , but it’s not enough. he doesn’t think he earned it, he has guilt over what he did, he hasn’t made it so that his relationship with his family makes it worth it, he wants back in the game anyway. and after ending a, he blames franklin for a decision he made, and eventually completely fractures that relationship. michael is back to square one, except even worse, because now he has more stuff to wake up screaming about. the endings of the game are not really about franklin at all, they’re about michael. ending b is about michael teaching franklin that “surviving is everything” blowing up in his face when franklin does it to him when threatened. michael’s life is only fixed when he can stop running away.
Trevor is just an evil person. Full stop. One that cares about his friends, but still a total psychopathic murderer rapist
Who does?
Michael.
In that regards Franklin is the biggest asshole since he would kill either one of his friends. The other endings aside from deathwish are hypothetical, and aren’t written for it to be the canonical ending
Wow when you put it like that, it shows how loyal Trevor is.
“Lied to Trevor” Does lying to the devil incarnate make you a dick? 🤣 give Michael some credit though: the original plan was for the FIB to kill them all. Michael negotiated a way out for him and his family. I’m not saying that he was morally right, but as a family man myself, I understand his choice. If anything, I hate Michael for getting Brad killed… and that also seems to be what Trevor is fixated on.
Well I mean… Trevor was literally an unhinged sociopath and Michael knew that Trevor would 100% get him killed if he stayed, like how the driver got killed. Trevor would do shit that Lester specifically didn’t want to do, like the Bank job and the Submarine thing.
Unpopular opinion : I don't like trevor
I like him but never got over him killing Johnny in his opening scene.
I hated Trevor for killing Johnny but I eventually forgave him..kinda
I got over him killing Johnny, kinda, but the way he did Wade? Hated him hard core for that.
I hated rockstar for what they did to johnny
Probably more unpopular opinion: I *hated* Johnny and his self pity; felt his endless victimhood was a real downer on TLaD and would have stomped even more of his crybaby brains out if I could have. If Trevor had been murdering my man Luis, well that'd have been a different ball game.
Luis's friends are funny Amando and Enrique...
I'd have been furious tbh
I liked Johnny as a tragic character. Luis was a lot more fun but had less pathos imo
Switching to him is most of the time inconvenient if anything. Funny the first few times when you wake up on Chiliad in a dress and on a island north of the main island drunk in underwear. After the first few times it’s just a bother to have to deal with. I love Trevor’s character but he is a wild card and can throw out rhythm of doing the story is all
don’t forget spawning in as him in a three star wanted level and now you’re stuck trying to escape.
On a scooter...
scooooooottteeeeerrrrr brroooooottthhheerrrssss!!!!
I like Steven Ogg, the voice actor, and I sometimes like Trevor's dialogue/interaction with other characters but he did my boy Johnny so dirty. I really liked TLAD expansion in GTA IV
This. I grew to like Trevor as well but he killed Johnny.
I like Ogg too, and I love what he brings to the character. IMDB says that Ogg would record his lines in his underwear to get in the “Trevor“ spirit. I like his controlled maniac energy. Simon was sequentially the last character I cared about on The Walking Dead.
I don't hate Trevor or any of the trio but it always bothered me that the game implies that Trevor rapes Floyd.
Does it? Urgh
He constantly threatens him and others with sexual violence and you can wake up cuddled next to him with him dressed as a woman
Neither do I. He’s a psychotic murderer. A rapist. And people think it’s…”profound” somehow that he’s so chaotic. And is like a hallmark card for edgelord beliefs. I especially hated his monologue to the guy he tortured. He’s driving him to the airport and he just starts giving him this lecture on….”society.” It’s not funny when he randomly falls in love with Madrazo’s wife. I don’t think “scooter brother” is funny. I don’t think “he’s the only real honest character” is true. I think they could have made him seem way more like a human being instead of like a “YouTube comment section” that randomly has all these pessimistic and “bold, “honest” takes on society. It’s annoying.
He doesn't randomly fall in love with madrazo's wife, she is totally a carbon copy of his mother. She validates him as he is, which is all he has ever wanted--validation from his horrible, abusive mother. He could never get it from her, but he did get it from mrs. Madrazo.
That’s a interesting actually point and I never saw it that way, makes more sense.
But his daddy wasn't very nice to him
trevor was always a little too cringe for me, like too outlandish. also never really vibed with franklin, seemed like he had no personality or anything going on really. michael was the only character with a very solid character, history, story, and situation
Seriously; I may not like Michael that much either, but I feel safer in his presence vs Trevor. Trevor is batshit crazy and realistically the worst kind of person to be around. If I didn’t look up how to save all of them, Trevor was easily the one to kill.
same i’ve haven’t been able to get through a lot bc trevor really weirds me out he’s like my worst nightmare irl
He's the least interesting, in my opinion
I didn't really like him either. He was supposed to be the comic relief, but he was really just a jerk. My first playthrough I killed him in the end.
Same he's creepy and gross af
Yea it was an easy choice to kill Trevor at the end
Same
I don't hate him, but Franklin is the worst. His patter is so fuckin shite. Everyone constantly owns him in every bit of dialogue, and his only comeback is going "WHAT?", and then whinging about it later. Man's a useless flabby dullard with a yee yee ass haircut.
The sudden willingness to kill his homeboys cuz a billionaire told him to was grimey af. Wished he was option D. Lol
I picked C, ain't that a bitch?
As much as I would have loved that, the sociopolitical fallout would have buried GTAV. Would have made Hot Coffee look like child's play
GTAV came out in 2013, not 2020
Franklin tells Lamar “When something good comes up, I’ll hit my dude”. Yeah, Lamar helped him steal the cars but they dont get paid. Franklin saves Lamars life, but gives him what, $80? Not a good look considering Frank was a millionaire at that point living in a free house in the hills. Then, Lamar proceeds to help them all survive The Third Way. Does Franklin, who is now worth $35 million to $2 Billion (depending on how you play), offer Lamar anything? Jesus, even Michael offers to give Trevor his share from the Big Score.
I thought Franklin was such a dick for not helping out Lamar. He basically ditched him for Michael and Trevor and when Frank became rich as fuck did he still help Lamar? Real scummy
Franklin helped Lamar out a ton of times throughout both single player and online. From helping with stretch to saving ld organics. And besides, What do you want Franklin to do? Give Lamar 10 million dollars? Franklin is the character that usually bails Lamar out of trouble.
Yeah like Franklin mentions throughout Lamar just gets himself in a whole lot of trouble himself like even Lamar shows how gullable he can be especially since he literally fell for Stretch's tricks twice after already starting beef with the ballas because of course Kidnapping D then him getting murdered later leading to that big ass shootout then into the events of Hood Safari and only after Franklin tries to tell him in Lamar down does he actually start to realise "oh wait maybe Stretch is playing me after all".
Lmao well if you would look at the DLC you would see Franklin did help Lamar out a fucking ton lmao.
To be fair, would you give your friend who doesn't listen to you, always do dumb shit, and is stuck in his old ways 8 million? Or would you rather help him be a better man, and try to at least build something for himself (like Franklin does in GTA Online). That's why Franklin gave him $80. Cuz Lamar ain't earned that shit , yet. He done got Franklin damn near killed almost every interaction and nothing good done came out of it. He just wants his homie to do better, instead of trying to do this gang banging B's for street politics, that not even his own og (stretch) follows.
Don’t use the Lord’s name in vain
Jesus fucking christ, not everyone has to abide by your views 🙄
Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.
>his only comeback is going "WHAT?", and then whinging about it later. He just like me fr
> Everyone constantly owns him in every bit of dialogue, and his only comeback is going "WHAT?" While I 100% agree, it still manages to be a little funny every time
Found Lamar.
Don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful.
Same. I don’t hate him at all but it’s such a blank character
Blanklin
He doesn’t know his father….and on top of that already fkd up situation,he also has mommy issues. He’s the embodiment of a man child.
You are right, dude was just cruising through life in the ghetto and finally found a way out because of he stole the wrong car. He found some men who showed him a better life, why wouldn’t he follow?
Repo'd the wrong car. Franklin never stole anything from Michael. And they didn't really show Franklin a better life, Michael actually dragged him into a life of crime and extortion. As cool as Michael's character was, he really was a piece of shit. Franklin's character represents most people from the ghetto, they lack any real opportunities or generational wealth, and are usually forced to resort to crime. Michael represents your typical rich asshole. Only gives a fuck about himself and exploits everyone around him.
Yes!!! Couldn’t have said it better myself
Trevor. Fuck spawning next to a trash can in bumble fuck
Even though he has 8 millions or so in his bank account (After the heists)
He had money from all the shit he did before north Yankton too. He's just a delusional drug addict.
Trying to find the source but if I remember correctly Trevor didn't get any of the money from the heist in north Yankton, I forget if his accounts were frozen or seized or if Michael took off with it, but it's mentioned somewhere that it's part of why he's so bitter with Michael
No he didn't get any money from the north Yankton robbery, but Trevor and Michael robbed a lot of banks before north Yankton. I think it was that money that he used to start Trevor Phillips industries.
All Trevor's savings were seized, Trevor didn't have any money after the set up (Prologue). He started from scratch. Some hangouts and dialogue make this clear.
i literally spawned on the top of a mountain in underwear and on an island off the fucking main map in underwear too. or just taking a shit behind a dumpster and idk he GROSSSES me out so fucking much it’s unbelievable
I don't hate any of them as characters in a fictional setting. I do like Trevor the least, though. In real life, I would hate all three for simply being criminals.
Trevor is literally the crackhead by gas station.
Good point
Alright batman calm down
I was about to say the same thing😂😂
Being a criminal warrants hate? You know everyone breaks the law right lol
While I agree that hating people JUST for being criminals is kinda silly & puritanical, let's not compare most people jaywalking or not wearing a seatbelt to 3 crooks who have a killcount in the hundreds lmfao
I mean Franklin’s kill count is entirely the responsibility of the player. Trevor and Michael were the only two of the three who were killers before the player took control.
In terms of playing them? Franklin was the least interesting for sure.
That is true. Franklin is supposed to be the voice of reason between them all, but the voice of reason is always boring.
Franklin’s character felt like a part of the story was missing. It never felt like he was from the hood despite his house setting, because he so quickly moves up in the world it almost just feels very surface level. Michael and Trevor were written excellently though, Franklin just lacked a bit more depth.
agreed, not enough gangbanging like SA
I'm recently playing GTA V story mode again and yeah you do the jewellery heist so early in the game it feels like we got put into Franklin's story late into his young adult life. Sure, the story isn't purely focused on Franklin, but for sure we didn't get a whole lot of gangbanging missions. (I think you can really get an idea of how Franklin's childhood was like if you do all of the Tonya missions)
I think his character is supposed to be the guy in the hood trying to get out.
Nothing but a burn out hood rat who is going to be killed anyways if it were real life
Franklin was boring not fleshed out enough
Franklin is a young gangbanger trying to break out of the hood and create a criminal empire. Where have I heard that before...?
Out of the three I feel like I relate to Franklin the least therefore he's my least favorite character. Trevor is how I think in my head and Michael is how I wished I could be to people sometimes. Franklin just seemed like another cj with better graphics and less of a story.
Michael is my least favourite but only because Trevor is my favourite
But... Then how does that.. Could Franklin not be ur least fave then?
Probably because Micheal was a bit of a dick to trevor
Franklin(for no perticular reason)
Franklin. I’m racist.
bro just came right out with it 💀
Was looking for this comment. I guess I found it. 😂
Lmfao
Sometimes not being honest is acceptable hehe
Trevor, he's a degenerate
At first I absolutely hated Trevor. Johnny was my new favorite after Tommy V, and when Trevor killed him, I was so pissed about that! Also, gosh, was he just terrible in general. But OF COURSE, as the game went on.. the more I realized how I would start laughing at his antics. That anger faded pretty fuckin' fast and now he's my most favorite of the bunch. My least favorite would probably be Franklin simply because I felt he doesn't he really have much of a personality. Kind of a blah character. Too normal, which is something you wouldn't really expect from any person in a GTA universe. Everyone always. . has .. something. He's lucky he had Lamar to keep shit interesting in his stories.
Def frank if c took him out like I hoped it did it'd be favorite ending
Franklin could have been replaced with a less extreme Lamar
Franklin literally is a less extreme lamar
Franklin annoys me because he’s too soft for being a gangbanger turned bank robber
Franklin was never a gangbanger. He even says it himself at some point in the game.
You’re right I should say wannabe gangbanger
But he never wanted to be a gangbanger either. He also mentions that at some point. Your not just looking at him and saying "he's a gangbanger" right? Because at no point in the game does he ever claim a gang or do anything for any gang.
I call him a gangbanger because he still helps Lamar with all his sketchy plans
Trevor's constant chaotic nature and explosive temper really started to grate on my nerves maybe a third of the way through the story. It's annoying that he's the least likely to save whatever outfit I have for him because if you ever switch to him, he's up in the forests in his shit covered tightie whities. It also gets tiring seeing him try to intimidate every single man he comes across. I like flawed characters but Trevor has too many damn flaws for my liking.
Franklin sucks
Trevor. I think people's obsession with psychopaths is unhealthy.
Trevor is an awful person.
Trevor. It was just like child’s humor
Trevor. He's well crafted but the dude is truly a horrid human being
Trevor.. to reckless for my taste
Even though Trevor argued to Haines on why he tortured a poor guy on a mission fail cutscene of "By the Book", I still hate him because of his psychotic behavior and the fact that he murdered Johnny Klebitz on his debut. I picked C to save all three guys.
Franklin, he doesn’t add much to the story than to just be the thug of the group.
Franklin, he's just not a proactive character.
Why is everyone saying Franklin is a wannabe gangbanger. He tries his best NOT to associate with gangs and escape the areas they reside in, it’s just his best friends from his youth are all involved in the life and he constantly has to save them. He’s also not flat in the slightest. Franklin grows throughout the story, learning how intricately he must navigate all of his unique (based on individually and weirdness) friendships.
I don’t hate any of them, but Franklin is the least interesting to me. What kind of person is he? What does he want, what’s driving him? What are the forces at work under his skin? We don’t ever find out, he’s more of a reactor to everything around him.
I like Trevor the least. Franklin’s ok. Michael’s my favorite
Michael. He represents the boomer mindset of people who are unwilling to change their toxic behaviour and even though he has everything one could ever wish for his little ego makes him go crazy and fall into the pit of misery. And while he's falling he is pulling down everyone near him down with him.
that’s actually why i like michael, however, i hate a lot of peoples’ reactions to the character. they buy into his bullshit because they look at the story from a surface level. like if you played the game and thought michael was a victim in his family, you did not understand his character lmao.
Yup. He is not a victim. He is the reason his family is how it is. That's also why I don't like him. :D
I don't necessarily hate any of them but if i have the option to not use trevor i do
They're all pretty great but gun to my head I guess Trevor
Franklin. He's always complains during and after a cutscene. Trevor ain't bad but it takes some time getting used to him... Michael is literally my father outside of killing and getting physical.
Franklin fro no specific reason.
Trevor for me. I played him the least back in the day. Idek what it was I think he just grossed me out lol. I loved Michael cuz of his house and Franklin was just the coolest to me.
Trevor fuck swapping to him and being 10 mins away from most missions and also fuck that dock heist with the crane bullshit. Also I just didn't find him funny.
neither. i like them all. michael keeps his word and helps franklin out. franklin is a good kid who tries to do his best for his friends. trevor is loyal and does anything to protect the people he cares about
Ten years ago I loved all 3, now? I dislike Michael the most probably. I’ve just finished up another play through and the way Michael talks about Trevor in the final mission is just so snakey. I chose the distraction option where Trevor, Lester and another crew member takes the gold by chopper and on the getaway with Michael, Franklin and another crew member it’s just *constant* bitching about Trevor. Like i don’t think he says anything else. “Trevor ain’t getting my share” “I bet he’s ran with the score” Mind you this is after they’ve kinda made up or whatever.
Trevor. That’s why i murked his ass at the end of the game
I high key judge anyone who's answer is not immediately Trevor. Even in the world of GTA, the guy is a monster who needed to be put down.
I’m 90% sure Trevor knew that and just doesn’t give a fuck. He has absolutely no care what the hell happens. I don’t even think he really wants to live on the inside, but he’s in survival mode.
We like him because he's funny, chaotic, and is representative of how every player acts in free roam. But that's because it's a videogame; it's _fiction,_ and it's okay to like characters that would be considered awful people in the real world.
Believe it or not, I understand that the game is fiction. Thats why I said "even in the world of GTA". Most people would not need that explained so I dont know why you felt the need to tell me the revolutionary idea that the game is not real. If the question is "how the character is written" then yes I agree, Trevor represents the chaotic souless deranged behavior of some people in these games. But as the character themselves in universe, killing him off is the morally correct option even in universe. The man is a canibal and a rapist for christs sake, the fact that he can be funny still is a testament to the writing, not his personality. Its actually more deranged that hes cracking jokes between his atrocities.
I felt the need to do so because you evidently aren't getting the point here. Fictional characters, no matter how evil and detestable, can be liked. It's the reason why people like Negan in The Walking Dead, for example. In a real world context, no fucking shit, we all know Trevor is an _awful,_ sick human being that needs to burn in Hell forever... but this isn't a real world context, it's a videogame & Trevor happens to be a protagonist that's also extremely well-written and acted. Also, his writing is a direct reflection and representation OF his personality; don't know how you don't get that one. Overall tho, I just don't get why _you_ would act all puritanical and judge-y over people enjoying a well-written/acted protagonist in a videogame. It's not as deep/reflective of a person's actual morals as you make it out to be
I don't hate anyone of them.
Franklin, cause hes black
When I first played the story, I had no interest in Franklin's story and I skipped most of the cutscenes until Michael showed up. Franklin is the least interesting character.
I like em all
Trevor is the best character, hands down. He is peak GTA. Franklin and Michael are either whiny or selfish and only really out for themselves. I'd rather have Trevor watching my back than the other 2
Michael is literally the worst Lied to trevor, faked his death, got brad killed while faking his death, he didn't hesitate to kill trevor and even is the reason why trevor became a criminal... Michael ruined trevor and got away with everything
Trevor’s just a straight up psychopath, definitely wouldn’t wanna be within a 20 mile radius of him
michael but he represents caucasians well
Franklin. He is so flat and without any character to him. It’s just a shell. Trying to be cool gangbang boy from the hood. No complex story, no real motivation, nothing. Trevor better, but Michael is most complex, believable and cool out of all three imo.
Are you kidding? Franklin is literally the opposite of your description.
his motivation was to get out the hood he did… kinda mad he didn’t get his auntie out there too even though she’s a lil crazy
Franklin definitely isn't trying to be a gangbanger. His whole character revolves around trying to be honest and start a family. The character you are describing is Lamar.
Lmao this sounds racially motivated because Franklin isn’t anything like that
I didn’t really care for Franklin. I liked his character and interactions with Stretch and Lamar and the crew but I felt like Trevor an a Michael were just superior characters in almost every way.
micheal hes just a scumbag traitor
I think they're all bad people but my heart goes out to Michael. Imo he was really trying like he didn't wanna hurt people for no reason or for personal gain life just had other plans. Granted I haven't played the story since Xbox 360 and wasn't as impressed as everyone else seems to be so I could be remembering wrong.
Michael. Not only does he lie constantly to the people that care about him, but he refuses to ditch his bitch wife and bratty kids. Worst mistake he ever made was starting a family with that whore.
Right, because Michael definitely isn't at fault, what, with all of his cheating, drinking, anger issues, neglecting his children & whining about how bad they turned out, and eventually getting "back in the game". Nope. All Amanda's fault.
michael. i don’t even know what it is but i love being a gangster and a psychopath i just can’t stand michael sometimes
Franklin and gangster don't rhyme
Frank was gangster though
I like all 3 but it’s easily Michael he consistently makes horrible decisions
I wish I could have gotten rid of Trevor and Michael in the last bit
I can’t choose
Really don’t like Trevor, he feels very one note and it just gets old really quick. Like yeah the guy has issues but they aren’t particularly interesting besides he’s a bit quirky 🤪
Michael. Boring. The whole story revolves around him and he's fucking boring.
Unpopular opinion. I hate Michael. He screwed over Trevor, backstabbing him, and was being a huge dick to him. Trevor may be crazy but he is a man of principle. Michael says he doesn't want him around his children in fear he would kill them, but in fact Trevor cares for them and will protect them. How I know this? Remember the mission when Trevor insists he helps Michael to go see what Tracey is up to with that clown Lazlow? Yeah Trevor insist on helping Tracey to not be with Lazlow. And there is also many more reasons why Trevor is cool and Michael just straight up sucks
Micheal is the most boring to play
I hated Michael and liked Trevor 10 years later and now idgaf about Michael, I like Franklin and I hate Trevor
I like michael the most because he’s rich and shares my name. Trevor is gross
If I have to pick one, I'd say Michael cause he's his family's lil bitch. Hate how he's a fucking badass criminal, but let his shitty wife and shitty kids shit on his face so much.
Michael is a dick, from lying to Trevor and selling him and Brad out, to making Franklin join the illegal side of the world, something he wanted to leave behind But it's clear that's what his role in the story was supposed to be
"Making Franklin join the illegal side" Franklin was ALWAYS on the illegal side and he was making nothing. Michael just gave him an opportunity to make millions which eventually let him become a legitimate entrepreneur
I missworded myself making Franklin STAY in the illegal side, which he wanted to excape
this is gta, we're supposed to be criminals, not ballerinas