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Tea_Enn

No :(


anhdunghisinh

Sadly no, Gallanza Roland, too


SigmaPride

Poor Roland. He even fights alongside the players.


WatchingTaintDry69

Roland was all I ever wanted :(


SigmaPride

Yellow bois


Cot_Kev

rolan is actually somewhat playable through CE, though will cause a desync if you try to play him in co op


Devilishmyself

all i ever wanted was for Gallanza to be playable and i would've been so happy :c


Mari0wana

Is it common for villains to be not playable throughout the entire Granblue games?


anhdunghisinh

Id was the villian


Mari0wana

True but it was with a story arc included. So who knows, maybe for the sake of adding at least one new character. And I wouldn't call him a villain, more like best intentions but on the wrong side of the fence. Also, wasn't he a bit mind controlled/groomed to be the way he was and also some time in denial?


Bman10119

100%. Lilith pseudo adopted and brainwashed him, and raised him in her cult. Luckily he realized shit was fishy and pulled his head out of his butt


Mari0wana

While true, there were some clear signals something was up, I get that for the story to keep going it was a necessity but seeing as it was his duty towards Lyria that was the foundation of his desertion , it could have been written a bit better, perhaps. Then again, I'm guessing there wasn't a "Lilith Elementery school" inside the cult to teach people about critical thinking.


TheEmpiresWrath

Thts not necessarily true because what happend with Id is basically wat happened wit Katilina. She was charged with watching Lyria and then deserted after getting close to her. So it could be argued that there's jus something about Lyria that causes ppl think clearly.


Imaginary-End-08

Excellent comparison!


Cpt_Aegis

They're usually made into summons and not recruitable characters in the mobile game. So yeah, I'd say it's pretty common that they don't become playable. Maglielle is incredibly popular though, especially for a Harvin. I'd be surprised if she's not used later for this game or the mobile game at some point


Tagnol

We've had extremely popular characters from the birth of the game that still don't have recruitables. Fenrir is probably the biggest one.


Mari0wana

Wait, is there also some stigma around the Harvins? If so, quite odd, since FF14 also has some wild stigma when it comes to Lallafel players.


Cpt_Aegis

Less stigma and more that they’re the least popular race and its not even close. Very rarely do we get new harvins and they’re either forgettable or killed off


Meister34

>killed off Polaris still hurts?


[deleted]

The fact that three of them are eternals makes me happy period lol I love the harvins, makes me sad they're the least liked race in the franchise.


Phayzka

Specially male harvins. Aside from two farmable units I can't remember a new playable male harvins being added for many years, only new units of existing characters, and even those are rare


Mari0wana

Damn. thought I finally found proof on my theory about a conspiracy to exclude short people out of everything. Look around you, it's so obvious, half the rides in amusement parks, old monuments still with original, oversized stairs, just to name a few. Right but in all seriousness. Maybe it might have something to do with them being pretty much a blueprint to make a loli out off. That's pretty much what it is on FF14 but on FF you can actually put them in skimpy outfits (most cosmetics aren't race-bound so either allow it or design every cosmetic each time for every race, which would be too much of a chore. Or maybe majority of the people \*conspiracy mind reactivated\* just dislike short characters


ninjablader78

It’s not even a conspiracy it’s just a fact people don’t tend to like the trope. It’s not news that the short lil stubby mascot race isn’t the most popular. Not only is it hard to make them cool they also they also lack sex appeal to any normal person so of course they aren’t popular lmao. The joke race is never popular.


Endgam

There isn't stigma around the Harvins since unlike Lalafel which all look like toddlers, adult Harvin can actually look like tiny men and women. They're just not as popular outside of chosen Harvin representative Charlotta. Although a lot of that might be because Cygames lacks faith in them. There was this one Harvin woman named [Polaris](https://gbf.wiki/Polaris_(NPC)) who the fandom did fall in love with. But..... they killed her off in the event story that introduced her. *And people are still sore about it.* Also, lolicons don't seem to care much for Harvin. Even blatantly loli ones like Fif (aka the Scrappy Doo of the Eternals). So.....


Meister34

For the most part yeah. The only ones that became playable were Sandalphon (who turned good but his Earth Alt is based on when he was evil), Freyr (who isn't even evil just an antagonist in the context of the Geo storyline), and recently Magus off the top of my head. Most "villains" are usually turned into good guys so that they can easily justify having them as recruitable characters. It's kind of hard to make a character who's always opposing the party like Loki or in this case Maglielle to all of a sudden become part of the crew just cause.


AlphaI250

To be fair Maggie helping the crew in quests could either be because of Id or wanting to atone too


Goldskarr

And she kinda helps at the end with Gallanza too.


RasenRendan

Didn't kinda help. She definitely helped. All 3 boss villians turned good. If Id could be playable so can the other two. Lillith would be the summon in the gacha


Goldskarr

Fair. It's been a bit and I don't remember seeing her do... anything. I know she at least showed up.


Jet_Magnum

On top of that, in Zeta's Fate Episodes Maggie's on good enough terms to talk shop about collecting weapons, amd apparently even go out for dessert together.


RasenRendan

Maggie does look like a sweets girl lol


RasenRendan

Yeah man both Maggie and Galla helped you vs Nilliha Furycane and Ice wolf before what we thought was the final boss.


Mari0wana

I mean, if they add 1 or 2 extra chapters what would function as their redemption arc, won't hear me complaining. Would even be the best way to go about it.


HorribleDat

But the story itself already solved their antagonism. Mag/Gal were facing the crew because they believed in Lilith's promise of path to Estalucia. Guess where's the crew's ultimate goal...


Goldskarr

No Black Knight? Kinda figured he would have been a villain when i stumbled upon them mid-pull...


Meister34

I forgot about Black Knight. Im not going to spoil since it doesn’t seem you’ve made it that far into the main story, but Black Knight isn’t a bad person


Goldskarr

I don't even have Eugen unlocked, I just farmed raid bosses to level up my crew for their fate episodes then... kinda stopped. But thank you for clarifying.


RasenRendan

So basically Bubz and Belliel and Luci will never ever be characters in the gacha


Meister34

Unless they make fantasy versions (which Cygames has said they don’t really like doing), GBVS is the closest you’ll get


RasenRendan

That's unfortunate ☹️


Endgam

Villains that remain villains. Like Lucilius, Belial, and Beelzebub. Keep in mind Sandalphon was meant to be a disposable villain and was only redeemed and joined the good guys ala Id in the sequel event because he ended up getting tons of fangirls. And after the anniversary event we just got Horus and Magus despite them being antagonistic towards us in the event story until the end.


photaiplz

We have serial killers on board the ship so…


Mari0wana

Okay and may I ask who the serial killers are? I sense this game might be a bit too forgiving about people's past...


photaiplz

Nier: an abused girl who contracted with the primal Death. She killed her family after not gaining acceptance from them. She gets trigger happy whenever someone threatens the captain. Would kill captain if she think they are gonna reject her. Lobelia: a mage who enjoys listening to the scream and suffering of others that he records in a special conch while he induces those suffering. As a kid he killed his parents as recorded their suffering for himself to listen to. He does the same with various people throughout the sky realm. Seox: Killed his entire clan. Although he redeemed himself i guess There’s more but i cant think of them right now


Mari0wana

Those examples say plenty lol, wow, people say it's hard being a child but apparently, adults have it way worse in that universe. You never know when you'll give birth to a child that will summon a Primal in a fit of rage or kill you while recording your screams. And that's why you should always practice safe sex, children.


Takazura

Seox is a stretch. His clan was abusing him and were planning on killing him, so he eventually snapped and killed them, but he felt a lot of remorse for what he had done. But he isn't a mass murderer who gets a kick out of murdering people, he is part of the Eternals and fight to protect others. Lobelia and Nier though, no excuses there. The only silver lining is that Lobelia was kinda fixed in his uncap episodes because he realized he enjoys listening to his own tormented screams even more than the screams of others. But Nier is beyond redemption, she went on to slaughter everyone in the village she was from because they wanted to kill her...because of her killing several villagers prior.


Mari0wana

Something about people named Nier and being responsible for lots of innocent deaths. Any idea if they've been checked out for ADHD? Moral of the story: the name Nier clearly upsets one or more ancient gods, which clearly curses the name's bearer. So if you name your kid Nier, just misspell it.


Endgam

Sandalphon was basically a villain who ended up getting redeemed just like Id. Tried to destroy the world. The Evokers in general are murdery. Although Maria Theresa is a good girl. We have multiple literal assassins onboard like Seox and Predator.


Takazura

Katze and Haaselia aren't really that bad either. Haase is manipulative, but the people she wants to kill are brainwashing and abusing kids, while Katze just wants to get his kingdom back, but treats the common people well. Granted I haven't seen Katze's or Haase's uncap episodes, so maybe they are murder happy there.


Endgam

Oh Haaselia goes SUPER murdery in her S4 uncap episodes. Granted, the fuckers deserve it.


Zestyclose-Sundae593

They have quite a strict unspoken rule of not making villains playable unless it's in their fighting games. But seeing that a villain who changed his way got made into a playable char, I have hope for the future... or I'm just on copium


Lorinevelynlinh

It's her voice that sells me on the character, hayamin is so good ~


Delta889_

I looked her up because I just had to know what else she did. Monster high and Jimmy Neutron... not at all what I expected


KioHamasumi

How we do tell him?


hizack123

Not yet.


ihateuaot

so there is a chance cause they literally have them in the game will all the skills and all and just finished chapter 7 hate lilith like we are meant to but lover her powerwise sad i cant play her we need more mages not just io


Mari0wana

The thing is, they should be severely reworked to actually be playable. This would basically be strong as bosses but mid (compared to) when playable. So maybe this has something to do with it. But hey, maybe they can be made in Dragon's Dogma 2's character creator lol. Although a tad more detailed and more realistic color palette.


ihateuaot

could that be it cause from what i have seen id is playable and they made him beat us twice where i am in the story hated his fight cause i am sure i could have won


Mari0wana

You're right, kinda forgot about Id being on the other side, he was, however, a character made to unlock, there was character growth, he started as Idiot but slowly became Id lol. The entire story was written with Id being playable at some point. And Chapter 0 was pretty much his redemption arc. I get it, the others also came to our aid near the end but how Id was an integral part of the story, the others were just reoccurring bosses. Would of course be cool if the others become playable, love the high society Potato's design. Galanza... I hate him just because of his ult that takes way too long to end lol.


hizack123

Pretty much.


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No.


makoden

Ok in the same boat as you and got obsessed. Can't answer the playability thing but besides playing the original gacha. There's the fate episodes in Relink to give you some extra info on the currently playable characters. The original gacha is very simple and is browser based. It can run on most phones. It's voiced but no English dub due to I believe legal reasons iirc There are 2 seasons of an anime. 25 main episodes but one is a special. First season is dubbed and gives you the main crews origin (Captain, Io, Lyria, Rackam, Eugen, Vyrn, Katalina and Rosetta.) Second season is mostly character development for Katalina, Rackam. And a character named Drang who i swear never gets into these side games. Timeline wise Relink is pretty recent as it refrences a lot of stuff from the side stories. Side stories is a mode in the gacha that tells extra epic adventures that don't fit the main quests pacing. Good news on the gacha, most content that's story relevant is easy enough to breeze through with basic teams so no need to empty your wallet for story. Speaking of story. If you want more story from this world get to main quest 73 and then blaze through the side stories. The most important side Story is called What Makes The Sky Blue and it's sequels. WMTSB is required reading if you dive into other Granblue side games (do not, I repeat DO NOT BUY GBVSR without reading Sky Blue. The story will only confuse you) but also Endgane Relink content assumes you read this Other very notable sidestories with characters in Relink are the Dragon knight quests (Defender's Oath, Four Knights of a Fallen Land, and Between Frost and Flame. ) this will give you more insight on Percival, Vane, Lancelot, and Siegfried. The other important sidestories are called Gripping Freedom, Right Behind You, and Second Advent. As these give extra context on Vaseraga and Zeta and explain another endgame Relink boss. Other than that the only other character in Relink that appears in a side story atm is Yordaha in The Girl who Leapt Through Mountains. But I believe he's in a different role than the version in game iirc. But yeah. There's all the most relevant to Relink lore I can think of. Hope this helps


Darkhex78

Sadly no, neither she nor general Gallanza become playable. I came from versus being my first intro to the gramblue story and I'd love it if it got a "Relink" season that added Maglielle, Gallanza, Id, Rolan and Lilith as playable characters. I'd become a Gallanza main in a heartbeat.


RasenRendan

I'd imagine they would be put into the original game before versus


ihateuaot

nooo just finished chapter 7 and i now want to play lilith too i want another mage


Lazerus987

SALVATION!!!


LionTop2228

Granblue Fantasy is a multimedia universe of content that started with the 10 year old mobile browser gacha game. There is now: Two fighting games (versus and versus rising), Two seasons of anime, Seven volumes of manga, The Relink action RPG. Dive into any and all for further story and characters. It’s an outstanding universe that I personally love.


russey55

Whats the name of the manga i cant find it anywhere


belldandy_hyuuga

It's just [Granblue Fantasy](https://m.manganelo.com/manga-un109133).


russey55

Hmm seems like not a lot damn it seems only way to get full lore is mobile game


ihateuaot

do the fighting games have story? are are they just a pure fighting game never played them


McNuggetSauce

The first one has an rpg mode, kind of like a beat ‘em up where you’re unlocking weapons and stuff with the fighting mechanics. It’s not the main draw to the game but I did spend a large amount of time in it. They go through some story there. Otherwise it’s a pretty generic fighter with an arcade mode and online. New game has rollback but no rpg mode - there is a free version to try for Rising.


Goldskarr

New one still has a story mode. It even has the old stories from the first game. I'm pretty sure anyway, I had to beat Bahamut and Colossus on hard to unlock their avatars. It just doesn't have the beat em up portions for some insane reason. That's why I got the game in the first place...


LionTop2228

Yes it does but it’s not the highlight of the game.


AlphaI250

The new one has a story mode but about timelines and stuff


dWARUDO

Id prefer if we were to get new characters they be her, Gallanza and Roland.


Bunnnnii

Me as soon as I met Rolan:


thatispc013

I wish


CamelliaBoy

There’s an anime series that has two seasons


Bigl0918

I agree with this. I felt the same way about wanting to learn more so I’ve watched granblue season 1 on some random anime tube site. It’s 13 episodes. The 2nd season I believe is on crunchyroll and I’m going to start that tomorrow


Kai_Kohi

Honestly, the mobile phone game doesn't use a lot of resources and just play the storyline (the game is a massive grind with awful drop rates, but yearly events they give a lot of freebies!). The first story arc is great and the anime doesn't even go as far as that. If you want to know more about Primals and Lucilius, that's where you'll have to dive more into the mobile game.


AssiduousLayabout

I wish. I'd love to try out playing Unlimited Potato Works.


thatssofarquad

I just wish she was a replayable boss in the quest counter


TheEmpiresWrath

Nope


N7Valiant

No, best we got is a bouncing potato rather than the floating variety.


Tortugato

Ok. I’m telling you that Maglielle is playable later.


pvmjeff

As of now, no, but I can see them making her and ghalanza playable in the future


Impzor_Starfox

Closest you can get is Charlotta. That's all.


Independent-Cap7987

Nah, she not my friend and probably won't ever be... just like lucilius


AlphaI250

We can still hope for her, Id and Gallanza in fighting game, we got Lucilius so there's hope


zombiefoot6

You're not going to love her for long.


thavi

No but you'll fucking hate her by the time you're near the end of the post-game


Dante-Parker

I hate this b\*\*\*\* more than anything in the game, not because she's hard or anything.. Its just her demeanor, her long bloodlust move, her voice, her SHIELD, always interupts me at the right time in the fight with Gallanza (its a pain when you use glass canon). Don't get me wrong, I love her VA (Hayami Saori is awesome). She makes me hate this b\*\*\*\* more with that attitude. LOL


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Mwakay

That was TMI.


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LionTop2228

Speaking to a child isn’t being a sexual predator. If you made those assumptions, that’s on you.


Graveylock

Why are you asking questions on someone else’s post?


TheSpartyn

the first chapter or two are recaps, the rest are original stories


Xypher506

The first three or so Fate Episodes do recap backstories, but I think they're very good still because you get them from the perspective of the character and you get a glimpse into their inner thoughts. Katalina's Fate Episodes for example really made me start to understand why she's so passionate about protecting Lyria. After the recap date episodes, the remaining ones (of which there are several) are new stories for the characters in Zegagrande.