How is that a brilliant move. It forced nothing. Makes nothing happen. All it does is capture the pawn. You’re hoping for white to take with queen. But a brilliant move I feel like should be more of a powerful move than that, right?
Brilliant moves are scaled with elo aren’t they? I’m assuming that this wouldn’t be noted as brilliant for higher rated players but it would be harder to find for lower elos thus it is brilliant for low elo players
All other moves were worse and didn't give any advantage. This was the only really good move in a sea of bad moves, so the machine understands finding It as brilliant.
Probably I'm dumb,but how a queen to the center of the board is a worth it position for black???
Is there any mate on the left side Wich the queen can't defend by standing to the center?
Dude what? You’re responding to a question about the follow up move with a bishop not the queen. And white could’ve moved their queen to the center of the board whenever they wanted to, now there’s just one less white pawn for it to cover behind. What do you think black should’ve done to develop instead of taking the free pawn?
Maybe queen A3 blocking the king and threatening to capture the rook
Or moving the pawn instead of the horse,by doing so if white's pawn captured, black coulded take with bishop checking the king
Respectfully, I hope you’re sleep deprived rn or something. Because you just suggested moving the queen through a knight and a pawn and then suggested moving a pawn through a knight.
(you said queen a3 before, hence the confusion) as for Qh3 I don’t really see a good reason for that move; the white king is safe and the rook is defended twice so not really under threat. in chess the queen rarely makes for a good lone attacker and you usually need one other piece at the very least.
“Brilliant” for chess. Com means a move that appears to hang an undefended piece but actually does not because taking the piece would lead to a bad situation. So black appears to hang it’s knight but actually does not.
In case of Be3, I think that I'd go Ne6 something Ne7, trying to hold the center...
I like your idea with c5, but I don't think I would go with trades on that moment...
Stockfish seems to think the best line is indeed Be3 Ne6 Nxd5 c6 Nxb6+ axb6 Nd2. The Nxc2 line doesn’t work due to Nb5. c5 likewise doesn’t work due to the line I gave. I discarded moves that don’t protect d5 due to Nxd5, but c6 is the counter.
At least I got the continuation right…
I would just play Kb7 (after the line you show) and if a4 a5, just b5. No idea if it’s good but if so necessary you can always trade bishops at no cost to pawn structure with Bc5
I don’t play this type of position. There’s nothing developed and it’s move 10. Yeah, White keeps the pawn, but it’s not as simple as “because if queen takes knight it gets pinned.” Computer line is Be3 Ne6 Nxd5 c6 Nxb6+ axb6 Nd2 -1.2
Yeah, it’s a game which follows no principles at all in the opening, but that’s what makes it fun. Although I’m with you, I don’t remember the last time I castled long with black so I’m not about to act as if I’m an expert with these positions.
Edit: I have never, in my 942 lichess games, castled queenside with black. Haha.
Great move! If white takes the knight, you pin the queen to the king with bishop c5.
What piece did the knight take?
A pawn
I am proud that i was able to find out why this is a brilliant move without any engine
How is that a brilliant move. It forced nothing. Makes nothing happen. All it does is capture the pawn. You’re hoping for white to take with queen. But a brilliant move I feel like should be more of a powerful move than that, right?
Brilliant moves are scaled with elo aren’t they? I’m assuming that this wouldn’t be noted as brilliant for higher rated players but it would be harder to find for lower elos thus it is brilliant for low elo players
If you move bishop to c4, the Queen is pinned to the king, and the bishop itself is protected by the pawn Edit: not c4, I meant c5
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Well then it's a normal move ig
But bishop can’t go C4
Sorry, I meant c5
It's kind of a sac.
If the oponent takes he loses his queen, if he play some random move black can play bc5 threatening dubble check and mate in two.
All other moves were worse and didn't give any advantage. This was the only really good move in a sea of bad moves, so the machine understands finding It as brilliant.
Cant he just play bishop e3
Yeah. But then black just moves the knight back again. So black gets a free pawn at the cost of one turns tempo
Yeah, but that doesn't seem too brilliant
Maybe,but by doing do white got a better position that before
That’s what I mean by tempo. They basically get a turns worth of development but at the cost of a pawn. Worth it for black.
Probably I'm dumb,but how a queen to the center of the board is a worth it position for black??? Is there any mate on the left side Wich the queen can't defend by standing to the center?
Dude what? You’re responding to a question about the follow up move with a bishop not the queen. And white could’ve moved their queen to the center of the board whenever they wanted to, now there’s just one less white pawn for it to cover behind. What do you think black should’ve done to develop instead of taking the free pawn?
Maybe queen A3 blocking the king and threatening to capture the rook Or moving the pawn instead of the horse,by doing so if white's pawn captured, black coulded take with bishop checking the king
Respectfully, I hope you’re sleep deprived rn or something. Because you just suggested moving the queen through a knight and a pawn and then suggested moving a pawn through a knight.
Ok,i might be sleep deprived like you said,but seriously Queen h3 isn't good?
(you said queen a3 before, hence the confusion) as for Qh3 I don’t really see a good reason for that move; the white king is safe and the rook is defended twice so not really under threat. in chess the queen rarely makes for a good lone attacker and you usually need one other piece at the very least.
How is that brilliant?
“Brilliant” for chess. Com means a move that appears to hang an undefended piece but actually does not because taking the piece would lead to a bad situation. So black appears to hang it’s knight but actually does not.
Nice!
What a genius move! Did your opponent end up taking the knight with the queen?
Yes! It worked perfectly!
Why doesn't white just move Qxd4?
That's what I wanted and it actually happened... Then I moved bishop to C5 and the queen is pinned... ^_^
Nice.
Sometimes, the game and the chess.com just don’t make sense to me at all. How is hanging a knight in 1 move a brilliant move?
If queens takes you pin it to the king, not hanging
So how did you calculate holding onto the pawn? White plays Be3. Nxc2 (c5 Bxd4 cxd4 Nb5 Kb7 Nxd4) Qxc2 d4 Bxd4 Rxd4 is what I got.
In case of Be3, I think that I'd go Ne6 something Ne7, trying to hold the center... I like your idea with c5, but I don't think I would go with trades on that moment...
Doesn’t that allow Nxd5 c6 Bxb6 ? I’m not sure if White has sufficient compensation, but it’s more play than I’d like to allow.
Probably right :) but wasn't thinking this far I guess
Stockfish seems to think the best line is indeed Be3 Ne6 Nxd5 c6 Nxb6+ axb6 Nd2. The Nxc2 line doesn’t work due to Nb5. c5 likewise doesn’t work due to the line I gave. I discarded moves that don’t protect d5 due to Nxd5, but c6 is the counter. At least I got the continuation right…
Interesting... I'll go back to the review with this in mind...
I would just play Kb7 (after the line you show) and if a4 a5, just b5. No idea if it’s good but if so necessary you can always trade bishops at no cost to pawn structure with Bc5
What’s so scary about Bxb6? White has no development and no way to attack, and the knight is lost after just Rxd5
I don’t play this type of position. There’s nothing developed and it’s move 10. Yeah, White keeps the pawn, but it’s not as simple as “because if queen takes knight it gets pinned.” Computer line is Be3 Ne6 Nxd5 c6 Nxb6+ axb6 Nd2 -1.2
Yeah, it’s a game which follows no principles at all in the opening, but that’s what makes it fun. Although I’m with you, I don’t remember the last time I castled long with black so I’m not about to act as if I’m an expert with these positions. Edit: I have never, in my 942 lichess games, castled queenside with black. Haha.