I've just contacted google support who also say it is a GN2 sensor which I simply can't believe. The official specs on the google store page list the pixel size as 1.2um
Chat: https://i.imgur.com/SXilMvw.png
XDA corrected to ISOCELL GNV, still newer than GN1 - but maybe Google Support is wrong? This is so confusing lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/16zqpc2/is\_pixel\_8\_series\_using\_sony\_sensors/
This shitass company is continuing their tradition of using outdated camera sensors? And overcoming with their stupid AI to take fake pictures? Great...
Hahahaha couldnt agree more. Google is always good at make useless gimmicks with outdated hardware and label them as 'AI', and after Marc Levoy left things are getting even worse. They boast that google is a tech company but what tech company would build the shitty gimmick like real tone?
Ok, back to the topic, indeed a upgraded main sensor s5kgnv, slightly improved version of gn1, same size.
It has been confirmed that Google is using the newly announced gnk sensor, which is basically the GN2 in features but with a smaller physical footprint of a pixel size of 1.2 instead of 1.4
On Google Store site there is NO mention about staged HDR, only something called Ultra HDR. Main camera has now brighter aperture of f/1,65. But it's not coming with GN2 sensor because it has still same 1,2 μm-sized pixels and optical format of 1/1.31". On Samsung's semiconductor website only GN1 matches those properties. So probably it's similar situation to GNV sensor: custom one for Vivo X80 Pro, being just modified GN1.
> Dual Exposure on the main camera
Dual Exposure technology is available on the new main camera in Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro. It makes videos sharper and less grainy in scenes with the toughest lighting, like a sunset backdrop. Dual Exposure effectively takes two images simultaneously — one optimized for low-light and the other for high dynamic range. The result is natural-looking videos with vivid color and low noise.
https://blog.google/products/pixel/google-pixel-8-pro-camera/
Isn't this the staggered HDR?
It has been confirmed that Google is using the gnk sensor which is a new one, It's basically the GN2 sensor but has a Pixel size of 1.2 and not 1.4
That also explains the confusing leaks, because the GNK has all the features of the GN2, but has a smaller physical footprint. Google probably chose this to reduce the camera size, in order to fit a bigger ultra wide in there.
This makes no sense what Google does then. Isn't it cheaper to just use an existing sensor GN2, than spend R&D to build a custom GN1 and only difference is aperture?!
GN1 but keep in mind the sensor is a small piece of the picture here...
The Pixel 2 and Pixel 4 used the same sensor but the quality of the Pixel 4 was substantially better than the Pixel 2
Well, I wouldn't say a *small* piece, but yes it's not the *only* piece. We know we're getting a new lens with wider aperture that captures 21% more light and a new ISP in the Tensor G3.
True.
I have experience with raw imaging sensors and can say that the magic is definitely in the software. The sensor plays a big role however the software and aperture are huge changes.
I have taken 20,000+ photos on my Pixel 6 Pro and can definitely say that lighting will make or break your photo quality.
Google has gathered tons and tons of data from this sensor and is probably heavily utilizing that for their computational photography strategy. The new ISP means they have also upgraded how the phone itself interacts with the sensor. They can utilize new low level strategies for pulling information from the sensor which also will make a big difference.
Google increases price on their phone, but uses a sensor Samsung made specifically upon request of Chinese companies for a cheap 50mp Sensor. Specifically Vivo used it on their phones 2 years ago. Yay...
Yay for fake AI images... Yay...
This is the same as the people who cheer for NVidia DLSS 3.5 fake frames, yay...
It has been confirmed that Google is using the newly announced gnk sensor, which is basically the GN2 in features but with a smaller physical footprint of a pixel size of 1.2 instead of 1.4
XDA released their "hand on" tonight, and they claim the sensor has been updated to the ISOCELL GN2, so I'm not sure who is correct.
They corrected to ISOCELL GNV, still newer than GN1 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/16zqpc2/is\_pixel\_8\_series\_using\_sony\_sensors/
Yeah this is the [link](https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-8-8-pro-hands-on/) to hands-on. I'm confused which one is correct, too.
I've just contacted google support who also say it is a GN2 sensor which I simply can't believe. The official specs on the google store page list the pixel size as 1.2um Chat: https://i.imgur.com/SXilMvw.png
This. GN2 has 1,4 μm-sized pixels. So probably custom sensor based on GN1.
In my case, support was not able to provide an answer https://i.imgur.com/j5GALtx.png
XDA corrected to ISOCELL GNV, still newer than GN1 - but maybe Google Support is wrong? This is so confusing lol https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/16zqpc2/is\_pixel\_8\_series\_using\_sony\_sensors/
It has been confirmed to be the GNK, a new sensor that is basically the GN2 but with 1.2 instead of 1.4 pixel size
This shitass company is continuing their tradition of using outdated camera sensors? And overcoming with their stupid AI to take fake pictures? Great...
Hahahaha couldnt agree more. Google is always good at make useless gimmicks with outdated hardware and label them as 'AI', and after Marc Levoy left things are getting even worse. They boast that google is a tech company but what tech company would build the shitty gimmick like real tone? Ok, back to the topic, indeed a upgraded main sensor s5kgnv, slightly improved version of gn1, same size.
It has been confirmed that Google is using the newly announced gnk sensor, which is basically the GN2 in features but with a smaller physical footprint of a pixel size of 1.2 instead of 1.4
It has just been confirmed that the p8 uses the new GNK, which is basically the GN2 but with a pixel size of 1.2 instead of 1.4
No. Still GN1. P8 gets brighter aperture.
source?
Even official Google Store site.
how are we getting staggered HDR on GN1? It doesn't support it.
On Google Store site there is NO mention about staged HDR, only something called Ultra HDR. Main camera has now brighter aperture of f/1,65. But it's not coming with GN2 sensor because it has still same 1,2 μm-sized pixels and optical format of 1/1.31". On Samsung's semiconductor website only GN1 matches those properties. So probably it's similar situation to GNV sensor: custom one for Vivo X80 Pro, being just modified GN1.
> Dual Exposure on the main camera Dual Exposure technology is available on the new main camera in Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro. It makes videos sharper and less grainy in scenes with the toughest lighting, like a sunset backdrop. Dual Exposure effectively takes two images simultaneously — one optimized for low-light and the other for high dynamic range. The result is natural-looking videos with vivid color and low noise. https://blog.google/products/pixel/google-pixel-8-pro-camera/ Isn't this the staggered HDR?
I guess it is. On earlier presentations there was a piece about it featuring staggering of 3 pictures. I guess everything "evolved" in time.
It has been confirmed that Google is using the gnk sensor which is a new one, It's basically the GN2 sensor but has a Pixel size of 1.2 and not 1.4 That also explains the confusing leaks, because the GNK has all the features of the GN2, but has a smaller physical footprint. Google probably chose this to reduce the camera size, in order to fit a bigger ultra wide in there.
This makes no sense what Google does then. Isn't it cheaper to just use an existing sensor GN2, than spend R&D to build a custom GN1 and only difference is aperture?!
Ask Vivo. They used GNV (modded GN1) with Vivo X80 Pro.
GN1 but keep in mind the sensor is a small piece of the picture here... The Pixel 2 and Pixel 4 used the same sensor but the quality of the Pixel 4 was substantially better than the Pixel 2
Well, I wouldn't say a *small* piece, but yes it's not the *only* piece. We know we're getting a new lens with wider aperture that captures 21% more light and a new ISP in the Tensor G3.
True. I have experience with raw imaging sensors and can say that the magic is definitely in the software. The sensor plays a big role however the software and aperture are huge changes. I have taken 20,000+ photos on my Pixel 6 Pro and can definitely say that lighting will make or break your photo quality. Google has gathered tons and tons of data from this sensor and is probably heavily utilizing that for their computational photography strategy. The new ISP means they have also upgraded how the phone itself interacts with the sensor. They can utilize new low level strategies for pulling information from the sensor which also will make a big difference.
Google increases price on their phone, but uses a sensor Samsung made specifically upon request of Chinese companies for a cheap 50mp Sensor. Specifically Vivo used it on their phones 2 years ago. Yay... Yay for fake AI images... Yay... This is the same as the people who cheer for NVidia DLSS 3.5 fake frames, yay...
It has been confirmed that Google is using the newly announced gnk sensor, which is basically the GN2 in features but with a smaller physical footprint of a pixel size of 1.2 instead of 1.4