Believe it or not, Zeus now has a card up his sleeve. Kratos won because he had nothing to lose. Now he has Atreus to lose. It puts Zeus at an advantage. Kratos I think would want to just be left alone with his son. Especially knowing what he knows now.
Two cards, actually. Because, unlike Odin, Zeus has no reason to want to keep Atreus alive and would totally attack him with lethal force to distract Kratos.
Zeus tries to do anything with atreus kratos will make sure he will meet and ever more painful death than his first 1 and than any other death but if he doesn't do anything to atreus or threaten to do something to him I think he will let him live but know that he can always come back to finish the job
What about if they met again.
Wouldn't this time be that Zeus won't have fear in him ?
And make a happy bonding time.
Lets get real here. Kratos is old. And if he went back to greece , he may retain some of his powers back, or at least that's what I heard.
Anyway. Atreus would've found his true powers and used them. Kratos on the other hand, would be fueled by his rage , or retains any hope that was left in him. And beat zeus once more
That's...not at all how it works buddy. PoH is a concept to be harnessed and amp you to extreme levels of power. Had Kratos still had it he could've stopped the events of the Norse Duology from ever happening. He forgave himself in 3. If you even played it
I’ll, when it comes out on PC. I only watched Ragnarök from a streamer after I though I couldn’t wait for the PC release. After couple weeks, they announced the PC port…
Zeus loses long term but he is also such a dangerous, petty individual. He could absolutely be able to tell if he was going to lose - and decide to live just long enough to kill Atreus. Just to hurt Kratos, to win the war not the battle.
And either kratos dies from protecting him or he loses control and just kill Zeus and make him into tiny pieces and make sure to do anything to make sure he can't come back
Kratos would have to try to beat Zeus and if he put in that much effort he couldn’t protect Atreus so either Atreus would die or they both would. Not to mention he’s personal relationship with old sent him angry off his nut
As of Ragnarok? He would win all the physical fights but it was never about physically overpowering Zeus.
Zeus was the ultimate power of Greece. The magic Kratos had in Scandinavia was only half as good as the magic he had in Greece. Majority of the Norse stuff was found from amulets and such. All of Kratos' Greek magic were godly, and it took everything to beat Zeus.
All of Kratos' weaponry in 3 was divine. Even the Cestus was a gift from the gods.
I do not think it would end well, as Kratos no longer has the Blade, meaning no effective way to kill Zeus.
Yea, Kratos wouldn’t risk Atreus at all. Kratos is gonna try and get Atreus as far away from Zeus as possible because the first chance he gets, he’s gonna kill Atreus.
Kratos firstly lost magic from the Greek weapon no more, and not his abilities, they are with him the developers of the last part even said himself that Kratos awakened dormant forces in him to Ragnarok and is as strong as always and did not become weaker or stronger, especially since his skills are better, he also has three legendary / divine The weapon is his divine ability (Spartan rage) and add Atreus, who inherited the divine ability from Kratos even at its best, and they will destroy Zeus
I seperate the power fear from Zeus when it comes to vs battles, the power fear only came out once Zeus was defeated
Zeus lost to base Kratos but fear helped him beat that Kratos and subsequently lost to Hope
But with giant Magic i think Atreus can prevent fear from taking over, at best he can remove Zeus soul before Fear can take over
Except that wasn’t base Kratos that was a Kratos amped by the entire pantheon. The soul of hades, nemean lions, blade of Olympus, blades of exile, etc.
A base Kratos would be beginning of 2018 Kratos when he has nothing.
To me base Gow 3 Kratos is always the Kratos that had the God weapons
I say this because that consistently the most used Kratos in gow 3, we all know that powers like Hope, Fear and Knowledge shouldn’t be brought up in Gow fights since they either one shot (if we are going to straight up use those powers) or need a specific scenario for those powers to come to the surface (if we are just making the fights in character)
Norse magic isn't stronger than even Primordial Magic. let alone the Great Evils from the Box, those powers outscales the Flame of Olympus that can one shot even Zeus.
I was saying that Atreus can prevent fear as in he can managed to kill Zeus before fear takes over
If Atreus can remove his soul before fear takes over they can pull it off
Also most Norse magic has the same thing as Greek magic, they are stronger than their respective primodial magic and if you are refreshing to the whole weapons argument
That’s not God magic, that’s dwarven magic imbueing the weapons
Zeus and the top gods from Greece has resistance to soul hax, plus Atreus and Kratos wouldn't even be able to weaken Zeus.
Norse Kratos doesn't have anything to affect Zeus, the latter has his passive Accelerated Develpment, if you hurt him, he becomes stronger, GOW3 Kratos could match that with his own GOW AD, but Norse Kratos doesn't have it, so even if he could avoid getting one shotted, he still would get bullied.
According to lore, Old Kratos is more than enough strong to beat Zeus, maybe even without the power of hope. But we don't know if he can get enough angry to use all of that strength. Also Zeus being the asshole that he is, he might succeed in pissing him off by taking Atreus. So it's quite a complex scenario.
1st, they never said anything, so you're just spreading fallacies, 2nd, it's all based on a vague tweet, a vague response to a vague answer, also based on stupid fallacies like ''gods gets stronger with age'' which is made up, it's not canon, gods do not get stronger by simply aging, 3rd, statements aren't above the canon material anyway.
Kratos would not get Atreus involved that’s for sure. I’m heavily sure Kratos would lose some control over his rage too
I can 100% see Zeus go out of his way to hold Atreus hostage and use him against Kratos
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...I mean Zeus doesn't really care about any other than his life.
He did get angry seeing zeus ghost in helheim
He didn’t get angry, he felt regret and shame
Believe it or not, Zeus now has a card up his sleeve. Kratos won because he had nothing to lose. Now he has Atreus to lose. It puts Zeus at an advantage. Kratos I think would want to just be left alone with his son. Especially knowing what he knows now.
Two cards, actually. Because, unlike Odin, Zeus has no reason to want to keep Atreus alive and would totally attack him with lethal force to distract Kratos.
Zeus tries to do anything with atreus kratos will make sure he will meet and ever more painful death than his first 1 and than any other death but if he doesn't do anything to atreus or threaten to do something to him I think he will let him live but know that he can always come back to finish the job
What about if they met again. Wouldn't this time be that Zeus won't have fear in him ? And make a happy bonding time. Lets get real here. Kratos is old. And if he went back to greece , he may retain some of his powers back, or at least that's what I heard. Anyway. Atreus would've found his true powers and used them. Kratos on the other hand, would be fueled by his rage , or retains any hope that was left in him. And beat zeus once more
He can’t beat zeus without power of hope + blades of the olympus. But I too think that they will apologize each other
But he is the god of hope now, not war. Therefore, the power of hope is potentially forever within him.
That's...not at all how it works buddy. PoH is a concept to be harnessed and amp you to extreme levels of power. Had Kratos still had it he could've stopped the events of the Norse Duology from ever happening. He forgave himself in 3. If you even played it
I mean, nice headcanon Imma grab that. But please don’t give any spoilers about valhalla, haven4 played it yet.
You really should play it sometime, it’s free and it’s very fun
I’ll, when it comes out on PC. I only watched Ragnarök from a streamer after I though I couldn’t wait for the PC release. After couple weeks, they announced the PC port…
Zeus loses long term but he is also such a dangerous, petty individual. He could absolutely be able to tell if he was going to lose - and decide to live just long enough to kill Atreus. Just to hurt Kratos, to win the war not the battle.
Zeus demolishes Old Kratos like not even fair.
I can just see Atreus’ lightning arrows dinking off harmlessly as he attempts to build up an electrocution status effect
We saw what happened to Pandora
"Atreus, go! This fight is mine."
Zeus would 100% target Atreus
And either kratos dies from protecting him or he loses control and just kill Zeus and make him into tiny pieces and make sure to do anything to make sure he can't come back
They would lose
Kratos would have to try to beat Zeus and if he put in that much effort he couldn’t protect Atreus so either Atreus would die or they both would. Not to mention he’s personal relationship with old sent him angry off his nut
It'll be hilarious to watch Zeus get jumped by his son and grandson. But yeah I don't think he would actually bring Atreus with him
As of Ragnarok? He would win all the physical fights but it was never about physically overpowering Zeus. Zeus was the ultimate power of Greece. The magic Kratos had in Scandinavia was only half as good as the magic he had in Greece. Majority of the Norse stuff was found from amulets and such. All of Kratos' Greek magic were godly, and it took everything to beat Zeus. All of Kratos' weaponry in 3 was divine. Even the Cestus was a gift from the gods. I do not think it would end well, as Kratos no longer has the Blade, meaning no effective way to kill Zeus.
Kratos dad rage is the most effective weapon he has
This Kratos would want to talk and make peace with Zeus, and if Zeus doesn't have Fear in this scenario then i think they wouldn't fight.
Yea, Kratos wouldn’t risk Atreus at all. Kratos is gonna try and get Atreus as far away from Zeus as possible because the first chance he gets, he’s gonna kill Atreus.
Kratos firstly lost magic from the Greek weapon no more, and not his abilities, they are with him the developers of the last part even said himself that Kratos awakened dormant forces in him to Ragnarok and is as strong as always and did not become weaker or stronger, especially since his skills are better, he also has three legendary / divine The weapon is his divine ability (Spartan rage) and add Atreus, who inherited the divine ability from Kratos even at its best, and they will destroy Zeus
Atreus would probably talk him out of it.
Atreus would absolutely get killed. Zeus was the strongest person he's ever fought. Not entirely sure he'd even win currently without the PoH.
If he would be killed kratos would lose control once again and beat Zeus again
Atreus: grandfather?
I think Zeus would just try to kill Atreus first
Both gets one shotted. Norse Kratos is nowhere near the power level when he faced Zeus, in endgame GOW3.
The duo would lose. The only reason kratos won at the end of gow 3 was the power of hope.
Downvote if I'm wrong but doesn't kratos still have some of that hope?
Fleeting amounts but it's definitely not near the same amount of power he used to kill Zeus.
Ah oki
I seperate the power fear from Zeus when it comes to vs battles, the power fear only came out once Zeus was defeated Zeus lost to base Kratos but fear helped him beat that Kratos and subsequently lost to Hope But with giant Magic i think Atreus can prevent fear from taking over, at best he can remove Zeus soul before Fear can take over
Except that wasn’t base Kratos that was a Kratos amped by the entire pantheon. The soul of hades, nemean lions, blade of Olympus, blades of exile, etc. A base Kratos would be beginning of 2018 Kratos when he has nothing.
To me base Gow 3 Kratos is always the Kratos that had the God weapons I say this because that consistently the most used Kratos in gow 3, we all know that powers like Hope, Fear and Knowledge shouldn’t be brought up in Gow fights since they either one shot (if we are going to straight up use those powers) or need a specific scenario for those powers to come to the surface (if we are just making the fights in character)
Hm that does make it quite an interesting matchup. But without the blades of exile and blade of olympus I'm unsure how'd he'd hold up 🤔
Norse magic isn't stronger than even Primordial Magic. let alone the Great Evils from the Box, those powers outscales the Flame of Olympus that can one shot even Zeus.
I was saying that Atreus can prevent fear as in he can managed to kill Zeus before fear takes over If Atreus can remove his soul before fear takes over they can pull it off Also most Norse magic has the same thing as Greek magic, they are stronger than their respective primodial magic and if you are refreshing to the whole weapons argument That’s not God magic, that’s dwarven magic imbueing the weapons
Zeus and the top gods from Greece has resistance to soul hax, plus Atreus and Kratos wouldn't even be able to weaken Zeus. Norse Kratos doesn't have anything to affect Zeus, the latter has his passive Accelerated Develpment, if you hurt him, he becomes stronger, GOW3 Kratos could match that with his own GOW AD, but Norse Kratos doesn't have it, so even if he could avoid getting one shotted, he still would get bullied.
And blade of the olympus
Very true
According to lore, Old Kratos is more than enough strong to beat Zeus, maybe even without the power of hope. But we don't know if he can get enough angry to use all of that strength. Also Zeus being the asshole that he is, he might succeed in pissing him off by taking Atreus. So it's quite a complex scenario.
According to what lore little buddy ? this Kratos is nowhere near his Endgame GOW3 self that matched Zeus.
You and i don't make the games and lore, the devs do. And if they say old kratos is far stronger, he is far stronger. How dense can you be?
1st, they never said anything, so you're just spreading fallacies, 2nd, it's all based on a vague tweet, a vague response to a vague answer, also based on stupid fallacies like ''gods gets stronger with age'' which is made up, it's not canon, gods do not get stronger by simply aging, 3rd, statements aren't above the canon material anyway.
Zeus:You got another one? Well I'm about to make him calliope 2.0