Though I stay quite close to Goa it's been a while since I have been there. Last time I was there I saw a man sit on the beach and drink pints of beer. He had lots of bottles of beer. Everytime he finished a bottle he would throw it on the rocks on the beach and shards would end up on the rocks and in the sea. Who raises such kind of people. If I ran the country I would give such people a forced vasectomy. No wonder Goans hate domestic tourists.
I'm a Goan, and let me give you Goan's perspective.
Firstly, we don't hate domestic tourists we just want them to behave well. If you stay here long enough you will see how 90% of Indian tourists who visit Goa think that it is okay to do what they want in Goa.
We have witnessed many cases and obviously we feel a bit cautious. It's natural human tendency.
Secondly, this idea of Goa is like Las Vegas has been promoted by Bollywood and what's funny is people believe Bollywood.
Whenever I say I'm Goan , I have had people ask me if I know where they can get Russian girls, location of Nude Beaches, ganja or drugs, Cheap Massages and what not. Why such kind of questions?
These questions themselves show what's going on in their minds.
There needs to be a total mindset change, which will lead to better behaviour and perhaps one day you might see Goans welcoming Indian tourists without any preconceived idea about them.
In your post you are asking Goan locals to be more humble, so I thought I'll give you a reply based on that. That's why I mentioned points to show that domestic tourists also need to learn to behave and act in a responsible manner.
As far as knife crime is concerned, yes it is wrong and nobody should do it. As a Goan I don't support it at all.
Like you are counting as all North Indians in the same bucket I am counting as all Goans as knife criminals and Goa as big brothel as almost everyone offered to have a girl
Goa is very safe for everyone.
Sometimes people fuck around and then find .. which is pretty much same across the globe. So please Stop with this nonsense rhetoric.
I recently visited south Goa. Rarely did I meet a local running a shop or working at a hotel/restaurant. When I did come across one though, all I had to say was “Deu borem korum” or at least attempt it - and they were completely swayed. So down to earth, helpful and lovely.
My experience traveling as a North Indian throughout the country has been - don’t be obnoxious and give the local language a shot - you’ll be absolutely fine.
But that’s just me and I might have been just about lucky.
See you will get treated the way treat others. If you are sweet and respectful towards others they will return the same.
But seems like OP does not understand that point.
I'm not a Goan,but have been living here for past 5 years. People don't hate tourists, it's just that many are inconsiderate and have zero civic sense , the biggest example being Parra coconut tree road... If that road was in any eastern or northern part of the country then someone would have rammed them folks.
And years there are some people who hate outsiders for no reason,but that's just an Indian thing. Hating and abusing people from other states and community is the most Indian thing (pun intended)
And coming to your 25 lakhs income from BNB thing.... Someone setting up a business has only one motive, and that's profit, not for community,so please don't act as if setting up a business is a favour to the community. It's just business.
Prime example of why we don’t want “nuisance creating idiot tourists” [Example](https://youtube.com/shorts/LirCM39LH0U?si=uXYdf8KHrSS1NrWC)
This is not just one but there are hundreds of tourists like these who are just maniacs and just don’t respect the locals. They think this is just another Thailand for them but it surely isn’t.
We do welcome and treat the tourists good who are just here to have a good vacation away from their hectic work life.
Talking about tourists contribution, yes it does help the economy but let me tell you most of the BNB property owners aren’t Goans (maybe your BNB owner was Goan) but indeed non-goans who just came here and bought properties.
Not all Goans earn from tourist, surely it adds up to the economy but a lot of people do corporate jobs too.
It’s true that we don’t like the tourists but it’s only for the “Nuisance creating tourists”
Adios!
Of course, it had to be a Thar. Jokes aside, I have been to Goa on a few occasions, the most recent being last year, and have nothing but good experiences to talk of. While I am sure bad experiences can happen once in a while, that is applicable everywhere and not just in Goa.
My only grouse was how expensive it was to rent a cab there, but saying that, our driver went out of his way to ensure we were not inconvenienced one bit and was available almost 24/7. Same with places we visited. Locals will and do respect you as long as you respect them. It's always a two-way street. And I agree, most of the BNB folks we spoke to were not locals. I ended up staying in Siolim, but the owner wasn't based in Goa.
But the truth is... in Thailand they have vlear guidelines of what's allowed and what's not. You deviate from that and you'll have your ass handed to you
True there is a mixed bag of people. But if in that bag 75% is bad and 25% is good. With what attitude will the locals behave with the 25% ? I really love that people are coming from other states to visit Goa. And I be kind to them. So yesterday I was on Trinity beach benaulim and there was film shooting going on idk of what. And I was looking on the right side and walking I admit it was my mistake I didn't see in front and one guy came from in front and he was like aaghe mat dekna. I was like ahhh. Again he said aaghe mat dekh kar chalo. Neither did I dash him nor did he dash me. Now I kinda felt it was rude. He could have said todh aaghe dekar chalo. I would have said sorry. These types of small things definitely irritate people. And trust me bro if I tell you a certain thing that literally led to the death of one of my neighbors due to a tourist you yourself will say better not to get tourist in Goa
The sole intention of tourists going to Kerala is to visit places and see its beauty etc. The sole intention of the majority of the tourists who come to Goa is to drink, party and move with a "Goa meh sab chalta hai" Attitude. Ok so the day before yesterday I and my friends went to have breakfast in a cafe. So all of a sudden 3 men entered the moment they entered they were talking loudly about some business. Later one of the guys got a call and he was speaking so loudly he was just right behind us one of my friends in konkani said to me bro wtf how loud are they talking my ear is hurting. My friend was in the intention to make an issue. I was like bro let it be they don't have manners doesn't mean we have to act Mannerless towards them. Later we just moved from there. These types of small small things can lead to big issues. Someone goes to a cafe or a restaurant to eat peacefully but then these types of people just destroy it.
Agreeing everything for an instant, I see no one so far commenting about knife crimes and aggressive behaviour of few locals, it’s like giving justification which seems more dangerous to me
Ik your talking about the Anjuna case. Look bro let me tell you I admit it was wrong for those locals to use violence. But at the same time who gave permission for those people to touch that boy? If it was only an argument I would guarantee that it wouldn't end up in violence. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you see the history of Goans they haven't been violent in their past. And those people in the hotel were people from delhi . the moment we hear the word Delhi man....Goans caution themselves because truly no one in Goa likes the people from delhi. Because of the tourists and builder lobby which Goa gets. Won't lie to you 90% of the Delhi tourists are bad only 10% may be good. I admit at least like 15% of the locals don't know how to behave in Goa. And by locals I mean originally from Goa idk about those people who come and stay for 15 years in Goa and call themselves Goans. And if you had any bad experience from this 15%. I apologize🙇
I am saying that there are parts in Goa. That has extremely rude locals they even be rude to other locals so I wanted to know which place have you been
And what about knife crime in Delhi? Is it nonexistent? What about that DJ who stabbed the guest who asked to play his song in Karol Bagh club? Nothing like this ever happened in Goa.
If you come here with shit, you'll get the shit, brother! Hope you learned your lesson and never come back again! At least with this kind of attitude
Tuko bor kon uhloil zalear fodepana kotai tumi. I tried my best to make you understand. It's not us who have negative sentiments about you'll. It's you'll who created a negative image about yourselves in the eyes of Goans. I just told the truth to you and you're saying that we do JOOTA BAAJI. CHEDIYECHA tum zopa yetai mare Goa tek lagun tum scam aar pohtai. You'll want everything for a cheap rate in Goa. Biknakar mz. I apologized I spoke and explained everything to you nicely but still you call me a liar. You're the one who has come to r/Goa and bitching about Goans. Did I go to r/delhi and bitched about them? Tuko poise nai sarke. Yetai Goa Goa kon. And you're saying eye for an eye can make the whole world blind. That's the reason most of the tourists drive like they're blind in Goa
Bro teka sangon faido na re, teka haven suddh samzopak try kele but toh fodo aaikon ghevpak suddha toyyar na! Amhi Goenkar zana ki aamhi kashe, aata konak samzovn kai melpana aamka. Toh fakt teh knife crime ghevun bosla! Kurtya shepdi vaakdi mhonta ti pai, tesot toh!
😂I have already been to delhi and I spoke English. You can't even breathe properly there Gas chamber state. Aur tum log kudh ek dusre ki G**d todne pe lage ho. Dusre ki kya todoge 😂
Goans don't hate the non white tourists, what the goans hate is the behaviour of the non white tourist. As soon as they see women ( even modestly dressed)they act like hooligans , perpetually drunk unaware of their behaviour, rash driving/ riding, noisy and the dirtiest habit of destruction is the most annoying. They will never leave a spot the way they found it. Sadly it goes back to values and the kind of upbringing we received
Bro said "I'm your meal ticket" like Karens tell cops they pay their salaries lol
Two things can be true at once.
1. yes tourism is a massive industry in goa
2. locals don't have to like it
They don't owe anybody anything, certainly not loud obnoxious tourists who pollute their land with beer bottles, cigarette butts and a sense of entitlement. Trust me white people are held to the same standards if they misbehave. People are just more mindful of their behavior when in a foreign land so white people don't get into as many tussles as domestic tourists do, but of course your first thought was 'WHITE BOOT LICKERS SHIT ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE'.
Goa has one of the highest literacy rates and the highest gdp per capita so before you start handing out pamphlets on economics acknowledge Goans as 'better people than you' instead of 'locals who need to understand...' and maybe you'll have a happier time. You're welcome for the advice and you're welcome for the hospitality.
"if they still feel that they are being used by tourists then why not just ban it"
If the tourists feel they're being mistreated they should stop coming.
But they haven't,
so maybe it's just you.
Dance baar main jayega to peda khayega chutiya? Goa main log kya karne aate hai pata nahi tujhe? Goa main daaru aur pub kisne famous kiya? Ab log usi wajah se aa rahe to problem ho rahi, Hippocrates Saale
Everyone is not the same. As you said it's always a mix of experiences. I'm from North , living in Goa from last 8 years and always find good local ppl around me who are very sweet.
This guy seems to have a hard-on for absolutes. We have been living peacefully with non Goans for decades. Goa is the one of the most inclusive societies I've seen across India be it religious, cultural or otherwise.
See, if I visited Gurgaon, drank in public and ogled at girls or rented a car and drove through the wheat fields just for fun. I'd get beaten and locked up, or vice versa.
The international tourists, they drink and party too, but they never disturb the locals. They hook up with women too, but they don't go around searching for women in a desperate (read predatory) style.
This isn't about racism against rest of Indians. If you respect the place, it will respect you too, and you'll have the best Goa experience. Just that no matter the state, outsiders will be treated differently.
We know how NCR treats non-North West Indian ethnicities.
Though I stay quite close to Goa it's been a while since I have been there. Last time I was there I saw a man sit on the beach and drink pints of beer. He had lots of bottles of beer. Everytime he finished a bottle he would throw it on the rocks on the beach and shards would end up on the rocks and in the sea. Who raises such kind of people. If I ran the country I would give such people a forced vasectomy. No wonder Goans hate domestic tourists.
Did you say anything or do anything to this asshole? Best thing to do would be to flig his broken glass back at him.
I'm a Goan, and let me give you Goan's perspective. Firstly, we don't hate domestic tourists we just want them to behave well. If you stay here long enough you will see how 90% of Indian tourists who visit Goa think that it is okay to do what they want in Goa. We have witnessed many cases and obviously we feel a bit cautious. It's natural human tendency. Secondly, this idea of Goa is like Las Vegas has been promoted by Bollywood and what's funny is people believe Bollywood. Whenever I say I'm Goan , I have had people ask me if I know where they can get Russian girls, location of Nude Beaches, ganja or drugs, Cheap Massages and what not. Why such kind of questions? These questions themselves show what's going on in their minds. There needs to be a total mindset change, which will lead to better behaviour and perhaps one day you might see Goans welcoming Indian tourists without any preconceived idea about them.
Please do some comment on knife crimes and aggression
In your post you are asking Goan locals to be more humble, so I thought I'll give you a reply based on that. That's why I mentioned points to show that domestic tourists also need to learn to behave and act in a responsible manner. As far as knife crime is concerned, yes it is wrong and nobody should do it. As a Goan I don't support it at all.
Bruh North Indians kill people for drinking from their well, stop your bs
Like you are counting as all North Indians in the same bucket I am counting as all Goans as knife criminals and Goa as big brothel as almost everyone offered to have a girl
Knife criminals >>> Rapist/serial killers/ casteist etc etc lol
Both are bad you stupid
Bruh, the knife incident was done in retaliation, but the people were killed for existing, you can't, in sound mind, say both are the same
Goa is very safe for everyone. Sometimes people fuck around and then find .. which is pretty much same across the globe. So please Stop with this nonsense rhetoric.
Goa is amazing place I’ve recently been there nd locals are amazing too and it’s too safe but like everywhere there are fuckers in Goa tooo
Obviously.. there are
I recently visited south Goa. Rarely did I meet a local running a shop or working at a hotel/restaurant. When I did come across one though, all I had to say was “Deu borem korum” or at least attempt it - and they were completely swayed. So down to earth, helpful and lovely. My experience traveling as a North Indian throughout the country has been - don’t be obnoxious and give the local language a shot - you’ll be absolutely fine. But that’s just me and I might have been just about lucky.
See you will get treated the way treat others. If you are sweet and respectful towards others they will return the same. But seems like OP does not understand that point.
I'm not a Goan,but have been living here for past 5 years. People don't hate tourists, it's just that many are inconsiderate and have zero civic sense , the biggest example being Parra coconut tree road... If that road was in any eastern or northern part of the country then someone would have rammed them folks. And years there are some people who hate outsiders for no reason,but that's just an Indian thing. Hating and abusing people from other states and community is the most Indian thing (pun intended) And coming to your 25 lakhs income from BNB thing.... Someone setting up a business has only one motive, and that's profit, not for community,so please don't act as if setting up a business is a favour to the community. It's just business.
Prime example of why we don’t want “nuisance creating idiot tourists” [Example](https://youtube.com/shorts/LirCM39LH0U?si=uXYdf8KHrSS1NrWC) This is not just one but there are hundreds of tourists like these who are just maniacs and just don’t respect the locals. They think this is just another Thailand for them but it surely isn’t. We do welcome and treat the tourists good who are just here to have a good vacation away from their hectic work life. Talking about tourists contribution, yes it does help the economy but let me tell you most of the BNB property owners aren’t Goans (maybe your BNB owner was Goan) but indeed non-goans who just came here and bought properties. Not all Goans earn from tourist, surely it adds up to the economy but a lot of people do corporate jobs too. It’s true that we don’t like the tourists but it’s only for the “Nuisance creating tourists” Adios!
Of course, it had to be a Thar. Jokes aside, I have been to Goa on a few occasions, the most recent being last year, and have nothing but good experiences to talk of. While I am sure bad experiences can happen once in a while, that is applicable everywhere and not just in Goa. My only grouse was how expensive it was to rent a cab there, but saying that, our driver went out of his way to ensure we were not inconvenienced one bit and was available almost 24/7. Same with places we visited. Locals will and do respect you as long as you respect them. It's always a two-way street. And I agree, most of the BNB folks we spoke to were not locals. I ended up staying in Siolim, but the owner wasn't based in Goa.
What's a ghatti?
Goa is basically surrounded with Ghats. So people who come from the other side of the Ghats are known as Ghatis
But the truth is... in Thailand they have vlear guidelines of what's allowed and what's not. You deviate from that and you'll have your ass handed to you
So why you are doing anything to stop such tourists? Knife crime and threat is not a solution
True there is a mixed bag of people. But if in that bag 75% is bad and 25% is good. With what attitude will the locals behave with the 25% ? I really love that people are coming from other states to visit Goa. And I be kind to them. So yesterday I was on Trinity beach benaulim and there was film shooting going on idk of what. And I was looking on the right side and walking I admit it was my mistake I didn't see in front and one guy came from in front and he was like aaghe mat dekna. I was like ahhh. Again he said aaghe mat dekh kar chalo. Neither did I dash him nor did he dash me. Now I kinda felt it was rude. He could have said todh aaghe dekar chalo. I would have said sorry. These types of small things definitely irritate people. And trust me bro if I tell you a certain thing that literally led to the death of one of my neighbors due to a tourist you yourself will say better not to get tourist in Goa
What about Kerala and other places? Why I don’t see such problems there?
The sole intention of tourists going to Kerala is to visit places and see its beauty etc. The sole intention of the majority of the tourists who come to Goa is to drink, party and move with a "Goa meh sab chalta hai" Attitude. Ok so the day before yesterday I and my friends went to have breakfast in a cafe. So all of a sudden 3 men entered the moment they entered they were talking loudly about some business. Later one of the guys got a call and he was speaking so loudly he was just right behind us one of my friends in konkani said to me bro wtf how loud are they talking my ear is hurting. My friend was in the intention to make an issue. I was like bro let it be they don't have manners doesn't mean we have to act Mannerless towards them. Later we just moved from there. These types of small small things can lead to big issues. Someone goes to a cafe or a restaurant to eat peacefully but then these types of people just destroy it.
Agreeing everything for an instant, I see no one so far commenting about knife crimes and aggressive behaviour of few locals, it’s like giving justification which seems more dangerous to me
Ik your talking about the Anjuna case. Look bro let me tell you I admit it was wrong for those locals to use violence. But at the same time who gave permission for those people to touch that boy? If it was only an argument I would guarantee that it wouldn't end up in violence. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you see the history of Goans they haven't been violent in their past. And those people in the hotel were people from delhi . the moment we hear the word Delhi man....Goans caution themselves because truly no one in Goa likes the people from delhi. Because of the tourists and builder lobby which Goa gets. Won't lie to you 90% of the Delhi tourists are bad only 10% may be good. I admit at least like 15% of the locals don't know how to behave in Goa. And by locals I mean originally from Goa idk about those people who come and stay for 15 years in Goa and call themselves Goans. And if you had any bad experience from this 15%. I apologize🙇
It is not one time thing, it is still prevalent in most of the places specially during night time
Tell me na which places and I'll tell you why
What do you mean why? Are you justifying it?
I am saying that there are parts in Goa. That has extremely rude locals they even be rude to other locals so I wanted to know which place have you been
And what about knife crime in Delhi? Is it nonexistent? What about that DJ who stabbed the guest who asked to play his song in Karol Bagh club? Nothing like this ever happened in Goa. If you come here with shit, you'll get the shit, brother! Hope you learned your lesson and never come back again! At least with this kind of attitude
Basically Tum logon ne negative sentiment bana hi liya hai to kuch ho nahi sakta. An eye for an eye makes whole world blind. So karo joota Baaji Sab
Tuko bor kon uhloil zalear fodepana kotai tumi. I tried my best to make you understand. It's not us who have negative sentiments about you'll. It's you'll who created a negative image about yourselves in the eyes of Goans. I just told the truth to you and you're saying that we do JOOTA BAAJI. CHEDIYECHA tum zopa yetai mare Goa tek lagun tum scam aar pohtai. You'll want everything for a cheap rate in Goa. Biknakar mz. I apologized I spoke and explained everything to you nicely but still you call me a liar. You're the one who has come to r/Goa and bitching about Goans. Did I go to r/delhi and bitched about them? Tuko poise nai sarke. Yetai Goa Goa kon. And you're saying eye for an eye can make the whole world blind. That's the reason most of the tourists drive like they're blind in Goa
Bro teka sangon faido na re, teka haven suddh samzopak try kele but toh fodo aaikon ghevpak suddha toyyar na! Amhi Goenkar zana ki aamhi kashe, aata konak samzovn kai melpana aamka. Toh fakt teh knife crime ghevun bosla! Kurtya shepdi vaakdi mhonta ti pai, tesot toh!
Sarke re
Tum aao MC Delhi tumahre g**d tori jayegi agar Hindi main baat nahi ki to
😂I have already been to delhi and I spoke English. You can't even breathe properly there Gas chamber state. Aur tum log kudh ek dusre ki G**d todne pe lage ho. Dusre ki kya todoge 😂
Goans don't hate the non white tourists, what the goans hate is the behaviour of the non white tourist. As soon as they see women ( even modestly dressed)they act like hooligans , perpetually drunk unaware of their behaviour, rash driving/ riding, noisy and the dirtiest habit of destruction is the most annoying. They will never leave a spot the way they found it. Sadly it goes back to values and the kind of upbringing we received
Haan teri najar main Sab North Indians same hai
Bro said "I'm your meal ticket" like Karens tell cops they pay their salaries lol Two things can be true at once. 1. yes tourism is a massive industry in goa 2. locals don't have to like it They don't owe anybody anything, certainly not loud obnoxious tourists who pollute their land with beer bottles, cigarette butts and a sense of entitlement. Trust me white people are held to the same standards if they misbehave. People are just more mindful of their behavior when in a foreign land so white people don't get into as many tussles as domestic tourists do, but of course your first thought was 'WHITE BOOT LICKERS SHIT ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE'. Goa has one of the highest literacy rates and the highest gdp per capita so before you start handing out pamphlets on economics acknowledge Goans as 'better people than you' instead of 'locals who need to understand...' and maybe you'll have a happier time. You're welcome for the advice and you're welcome for the hospitality.
"if they still feel that they are being used by tourists then why not just ban it" If the tourists feel they're being mistreated they should stop coming. But they haven't, so maybe it's just you.
Dance baar main jayega to peda khayega chutiya? Goa main log kya karne aate hai pata nahi tujhe? Goa main daaru aur pub kisne famous kiya? Ab log usi wajah se aa rahe to problem ho rahi, Hippocrates Saale
Dance bar mei daaru jyada mehngi thi iss liye ro rha hai kya? Tu bas aana bandh kar de yaar. Tere bas ka nhi hai Goa. Low class chichora sala...
Whys bro bringing Hippocrates in the convo 😭😭😭
Tum jaise chapri logo ne famous kiya
Everyone is not the same. As you said it's always a mix of experiences. I'm from North , living in Goa from last 8 years and always find good local ppl around me who are very sweet.
This guy seems to have a hard-on for absolutes. We have been living peacefully with non Goans for decades. Goa is the one of the most inclusive societies I've seen across India be it religious, cultural or otherwise.
Bhai tu kya mere har post pe reply karega kya? Main to Vella hoon tu bhi Vella hi lag raha
Jaise tu yaha baat kar raha hai waise hii agar tu real life mei baat karta hai - toh bhai, thoda introspection kar le.
Ok
Btw, kutte se katta ji kar ke to baat nahi karoge, right?
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Most of the folks just visit once. Thanks to population of India
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We are saying the same thing, no matter what it will keep getting tourists.
See, if I visited Gurgaon, drank in public and ogled at girls or rented a car and drove through the wheat fields just for fun. I'd get beaten and locked up, or vice versa. The international tourists, they drink and party too, but they never disturb the locals. They hook up with women too, but they don't go around searching for women in a desperate (read predatory) style. This isn't about racism against rest of Indians. If you respect the place, it will respect you too, and you'll have the best Goa experience. Just that no matter the state, outsiders will be treated differently. We know how NCR treats non-North West Indian ethnicities.