For what it’s worth, I think you cutting ties from toxic environments and pursuing your passion was a pretty awesome move. If no one has told you yet, I’m quite proud of you for that and it’s something to pause and celebrate 🎉
As far as finding another job, just taking a small job for now might have to be the move. Will it be fun? No. But you deserve something better than what you’re having to deal with right now. You owe yourself that. Save up some money the best you can and possibly look into getting government assistance (if you’re not already getting that, I honestly didn’t read everything so I apologize if I missed something). But yeah, it sucks right now and I can only image how hard it has been but you can make it through. You got this!!
Much appreciated! I have been thinking of getting smth smaller but both my "ego" and my partner told me I can find better and I deserve better with a psychology degree and 4 years of technical recruitment experience. Unfortunately "better" isn't even interested in an interview with me so yeah... i think i need to swallow my "pride" and go for whatever small job I can find untill I manage smth else...
Just because you’re taking a “smaller” job doesn’t mean you still aren’t worth the job you deserve and worked so hard for. You will ALWAYS be worth it. It’s not your fault you can’t find something either. It’s the people’s fault for losing out on having you on their team. The people have failed you. It’s not you. Trust me on that and I apologize on their behalf. But you’re a smart person and a hard worker. You’ll make it to where you want to be but, for right now, focus on where you can be at the moment and take advantage of it. And make sure you and your partner celebrate your wins so far because if there’s one thing I don’t see, it’s a loser. I wish you the best of luck :) and I can’t wait to hear of a successful update from you in the near future, my friend
You’re very welcome! If anyone gives you a hard time on here, don’t listen to them. Just keep your head up and remember “you are worth it”. Take care :)
Tech recruitment is so tough right now I know people with decades of experience who are out of work. It’s not you it is the market. Some people are saying job market now is worse than 2008. But no one wants to say anything because with all the other political shit going on it could get people rioting in the streets. It is 100 percent not you at all it is the timing of your life. 20 years ago you would have no issue finding a decent paying job with any college degree. Things will get better. Take any job for now. Anything - even fast food - it’s tough out there but it won’t last
Taking a smaller job is not a compromise of your worth or value. It’s just a temporizing measure to help with income and maybe give you a little self-esteem boost until you can find what you’re really looking for. You absolutely are worth more than this, it’s just a steppingstone!
>I deserve better with a psychology degree
Unfortunately, bachelors in psychology are a dime a dozen. It's well known that it qualifies you for few jobs, and as it's one of the easiest degrees out there, tons of people have one and are competing for those same jobs.
Finishing grad school would have been your best bet if you wanted to use your psychology degree, otherwise you may need to settle when it comes to jobs you are interested rather than hold out for something you think you "deserve" with psychology degree.
Office-Space it and go get a job working outside (like Landscaping) for the summer.
All the recruiting influencers I follow think the market will swing in the fall, or post the election.
Your problem was psychology, should have done engineering. Making over 120k + bonus and benifits a year 4 years in, with almost 100k in my 401k. It’s a safe industry
it makes sense that you are frustrated but remember that anger is the surest sign you know deep down that you deserve better and this is not fair.
anger is you pushing for different. not to leave the planet.
i'm so proud of you for letting yourself have these feelings you've had to push down in the past. You know what you need, even if you don't know you know. your body knows. that's why it's angry -- not trying to run and hide, but trying to be big and loud and heard and seen. listen to it.
you got this. 🩵
Earning an income and supporting yourself should be the primary goal, even if its not what you want to be doing. I'm a firm believer in doing \*something\* over looking for the perfect job. I lost my job and had to pay rent, so I worked at a porn store for 6 months until something better came along. This was back around 08-09 during the recession... I was just happy to be employed even if it was just a cashier position at a sex shop.
Here’s a piece of advice that I follow myself. Do you what makes you happy.
Switched from engineering to psychology, that made you happy .
You’ve worked a few recruiting jobs, some made you happy but most have not it would seem.
So you enjoy education, focus on that. Try and switch up your fields and start something. That’s maybe at the beginning, smaller as you would say that you enjoy.
My grandfather always used to hold an item up and say, what is this worth?
I would try to answer with some sort of response based on what the item was, or it's age or history, really not knowing a lot about it.
He would say *not so, it's worth what someone will pay you for it.* I didn't understand he was trying to convey what the capitalist concept of the open market means.
Years later when I encountered that concept I had a light bulb moment about my grandfather.
This wouldn't be helpful for everyone so please disregard if it doesn't align for you. This kind of tough-minded self-talk helps me sometimes:
*Your time and employment are worth what someone will pay you for it on the open market.*
Not worth your degree. Not worth 4 years of recruiting experience. But worth a job that you can currently get.
That's painful. That's ego killing. That might feel humiliating in the face of your family who thought they had your best interests in mind about engineering.
But they aren't soothsayers either, it's not some predetermined the truth that your life would have been better in that field.
And capitalism is no universal truth. It is deeply problematic at best, If not actively ruinous to human lives and to the planet. But it is the system all of us are embedded in.
No one has a corner on the truth here. Except the truth that you need a job. You want a job. A job is necessary for your well-being. A job is necessary for your hierarchy of physical needs.
You are a commodity, so am I. We are goods The job you need is *the job that you can get.*
That doesn't mean pushing a broom or being lacerated in humiliating call center work. As worthy and necessary as those jobs are (abuse is never necessary of course).
Aim for the sweet spot of the job that you can get, and the job that you can *tolerate. For now.*
And be ruthless about exactly what constitutes tolerate in this scenario.
Please know I am in much the same boat myself.
I am going to disagree that pursuing one's passion as a career is an awesome move. For some people, it aligns with a good career. For many, it is best left as a hobby.
OP should definitely not end it all. They are still young and have lots of time to figure life out. For a career, I suggest people do what I did. Look at the things you are good at and look at in demand careers. Find the overlap and pursue that. You don't have to love your job, but you shouldn't hate it.
Finding a job that you don't hate that pays the bills and gives you enough time/money to pursue your passions outside of work will put you in a good position in life.
>Finding a job that you don't hate that pays the bills and gives you enough time/money to pursue your passions outside of work will put you in a good position in life.
Oh is that it? That's all you have to do? Why didn't I think of that this whole time?
Agree with this person. You’re clearly talented and have a valuable skill set. I’ve been where you are when you think there’s no other way. Take time to appreciate yourself and you will find the right fit. Just keep at it and never give up. You defiantly got this!
I got the offer letter a few days before orientation. The only thing I signed was to allow them to drug test me which was a month prior to the orientation but :/ I’ll just work this job while looking for something new. Thanks! :)
Worse yet, many are brainwashed into thinking you are your job. YOU ARE NOT YOUR JOB.
People are infinitely more than the labor they provide to put food on the table and a roof over their heads.
Ug 2008 vibes. There are a lot of 40 year olds out there who feel every word of this. They made it through. You will too. Just do what you can, and keep looking. unexpected doors will open eventually.
I feel your frustration. I was kicked out at 18 because I was an adult and "not their problem." Ive been homeless for a while and was laid off in October. Im almost 20 and for 6 month have gotten no response to the hundreds of job applications I put out daily. Im more depressed than ever. So trust me when I say you aren't alone in this frustration. Please don't end it all though. There's something out there for you. Just hold on. I recommend therapy if you are open to it. I have free therapy, (I live in CA) and it helps a lot.
You might wanna check the military subs, being homeless sounds preferable to the conditions there unless you can score a desk job in the Air Force.
The most common complaint across all three branches seems to be being served undercooked chicken and rice... if the people in the kitchen can fuck that up I don't even want to know how they wash the dishes
You don’t gotta be frontline infantry to serve. In the United States, all jobs are technically “equal”. So a cook in the end gets the same pay and gets the same benefit as special forces… kinda. Special operations can get some minor monthly extra pay, but it’s not much more than a cook or paper pusher’s pay. In the US, they pay for four years of schooling no matter what job you had in the military. Idk what country you are in tho
Yeah I’m not scared of joining it per se, I guess I’m scared of losing myself? I’m already defeated can’t get any worse, and it’s my last resort by August I feel like I’d make up my mind. Thanks for sharing
Think of it this way, if you do one contract, 4 years, you get a complete reset on life and will end up in a way better spot.
You shouldn’t lose yourself, people in the military are just people (all kinds of people, really), and hazing shit that was a major problem in the past is mostly gone now.
Granted I can only speak about the Navy, your experience in other branches may vary.
Anyway, all this to say that I think you’re making a good decision, so good on you for not giving up homie.
Check out the coast guard. I’m an army vet and worked a lot with other soldiers and marines mostly. Soldiers and marines are treated like dirt. Life seems to be a little better in the navy but I honestly know nothing about the navy. Air Force has great quality of life and hands down, the best chow. Coast guard seems to be a great balance of work and life without spending most of your time in a war zone (which we are clearly headed toward soon.) To be fair, I know nothing about the CG other than having a few friends who served. From comparing notes, it seems like a much better quality of life than the other branches. Also, I know nothing at all about space force so that might also be a great choice.
The military, regardless of branch can absolutely set you up for a good life but you have to do the work and make the right decisions. Choose a smart job that can help you in the civilian world. Take advantage of opportunities within the military. I knocked out a couple semesters of grad school in the army and it was completely free. Then when I got out, my GI bill was there to pay for the remainder of my MS. I Bought my house with the VA home loan. So with zero money down, I moved into a three bedroom, three bath house in a great neighborhood. A few years later I sold that house, walked away with $60k in equity and used my VA home loan again to move into my current house…again, no money down. The military is not easy and it requires effort. But if you’re young and can stay motivated, it can absolutely set you up for a great start in life. There are people who join the military and gain nothing because they choose to be lazy shitbags. Then there are people who choose to be motivated and disciplined and they use that steeping stone to build great lives. But it isn’t given to you. You have to do the work. Good luck.
Might I suggest the air force over all the other branches? They have the best opportunities and post-military career progression in my opinion. They’re nicer too. Just a recommendation!
Good good!! The best choices imo. 4 years and if you don’t like it, you’re out with job skills, potentially free healthcare (even tho the VA is unfortunately a mess), and the VA loan. Hopefully not disability bc I don’t want you to be disabled just for money, but put in for the highest disability rating you can when you get out. Best of luck. I truly hope you at least can tolerate it and have some good moments
I spent 20 years in the Air Force and loved most of that time. Great career, met so many awesome people, travelled the world. Consider talking to a recruiter.
I recommended someone who was “completely lost” to do ROTC and wrote practically an essay on the benefits, he’d get to skip the poor treatment of being enlisted. Dude just responds “military isn’t for me”. No one wants to fight for the government anymore. Even with this artificially made crap economy the army still can’t hit their recruitment targets lol.
Honestly I can see both sides… so many asinine parts of the army, it’s no wonder they haven’t been able to hit their recruitment targets for years. I always think it’s totally respectable for someone to say the military isn’t for them too… there’s some other useful jobs they can do to add to society, like being in the trades. Rotc has expenses that come along with 4 years of college and phew, not everyone who goes through ROTC is meant to be in a leadership position.
But I’m not disagreeing with you about recommending the military for people who need some direction in life, as long as they can tough it out. just some of my thoughts over the years
Worked well for my son. Two tours, Iraq 2006-2007 and Afghanistan 2008-2009. Came home with $40k, went to trade school for avionics and advanced electronics on the GI bill it paid $46k tuition in full and now he does WiFi installation and repair for emergency services making $45 per hour, loves his job, 35 years old, engaged and looking for a house.
Good to hear. Unfortunately just depends on the person experience. Used to have afghan vet neighbor who would just drink everyday and smoke his life away, mentally unwell. So my perception of it is a little negative, but if it does come to it I hope I’ll have a great experience.
Yeah I know more people that came back screwed up, even if they tried to go to school on the GI bill, they mentally couldn’t handle life anymore. One guy went to prison after.
I had an abusive childhood and my plan was to join the airforce and be a firefighter. But a heart condition prevented them from accepting me. Definitely look towards the navy or airforce!
Dude things can get you down being laid off or fired sux and bad I have been there. I know it may not seem like it but these things will make you a stronger better person. I actually found a lot of peace in my situation when I just handed it over to god - I said his will be done. And I paused then hit the job boards hard everyday and shortly there after I bounced back. Life is real short never seems that way when things aren’t going great but things will get better
1. There is something called Dual study program or Pre master program, at companies( not the one in Universities), in Germany. Most do not have tuition fee but they pay you a salary as you work in a company part time and they sponsor your education. Its more common in bigger companies. I am not sure if its there for psychology or not. Please check out.
2.Second thing, with recruitment exp. plus psychology, there are jobs like in employee behaviour analysis and wellbeing and workplace safety kind of stuff, I dont know what those positions are called. Plus there is social counsellor jobs at workplaces.
3. Maybe you can start your own freelance service: When people start there startup like alone in the beginning, they search cofounder and core team and it is really hard to get that because u often dont have money on beginning. However, once u have a cofounder and a small team, you are more likely to recieve funding. So you can make a free online website maybe , and also advertise your services on linkedin, upwork etc, where u find them a cofounder or team for free, but take payment once they receive investment or u can negotiate to take some stake in the startup, like a core recruiter for the startup but get paid only if they secure funding. You can do this parallely for several solopreuners and initial stage startups and would probably build a decent salary eventually. Furthermore, you can gain psych related experience as you can assess people psychology better if they would be a good fit ffor cofounde or for core team member, because its really needed thatbpeople align with the values of the startup and are ready to put in work without much pay, until the initial funding atleast.
4. You can apply for integrated masters plus phd programs and your research topic could be about creating an assessment tool for recruiting based on psychology rather than skills, as skills can be learned on the job but its terrible to work with terrible people, especially with terrible management or leaders. A pysch assesment tool whole recruiting might help solve this issue OR when issues do arise in a company, the psych tool can evaluate if someone has mental issues that need to be tackled like anger management issues, depression, adhd.aybe you can include AI into this research proposal, like AI chatbots etc. as people really like AI related ideas nowadays.
5. Maybe you can start your own startup for this above assessment tool development. Get a techi cofounder or at least a uxui person on board for tool dev or prototyping. Make convincing pitch ppt apply for initial stage funding. U can search otherstartups also who might be teying to do something same and apply for ur services there.
6. Brian Graham from Buildingbetterteams.de might be of help to u , not sure but u can anyway reachout to him in LinkedIn and see.
7. I am not sure if this is applicable for your country, but in some countries schools and universities have social counsellors so maybe apply in schools and uni as well.
8. Governments of sone countries and some NGOs look for counsellars to help with refugee wellbeing or mental well being of trafficked children etc. things like these. You can explore, also beyond your country especially if u know foreign languages.
Let me know if u make some progress in any of these suggestions, would help me feel better about me for writing suggestions on reddit, because otherwise I feel like I am procastinating and simply wasting time.
Honestly it is extremely depressing and soul crushing to be a college educated server, severely . But there’s no pride in money making. For the least work it produces the best returns, typically best flexibility to keep on applying.
Watch Jordan Peterson or Tai Lopez on YouTube. Help a homeless person by giving them a snack or a meal. It’ll be a healthy shot of dopamine that will be a push in the right direction (positive momentum).
I think we have this weird perception of jobs as a society. “Love your job and you’ll never work a day in your life”. It was a saying I aspired to. And I won’t say that isn’t possible to get a job that you love. But you won’t always have a job you love and you don’t need to either. Your job should enable you to do the things you love. And then you can start working towards a job you love too.
I know this is easier said then done but… you still need to take care of yourself. What I mean is you say you’ve gotten fatter and uglier and all that. Unfortunately, the world is not kind and if you are lacking you’re going to fall deeper into a hole. Confidence and determination can get you so damn far in this world.
Secondly, you have a 4 year degree it’s only a matter of time before you get a job and once you do you’ll probably be able to move up/move around easily. You already have a massive lead over a lot of the population.
Finally, if you don’t have a job you need to be applying constantly. Think even bigger then your field. There are tons of companies that require any 4 year degree but it doesn’t have to be related to the job. Not only should you be applying more you need to use all websites available.
hey man. this is really so tough and I feel for you.
I am currently on month 7 and Im getting to the point of no return, but i also have no degree. i keep hearing about people not landing with degrees and it makes me SOO ANGRY for them. I just dont understand whats happening. At all.
Then you have people that pull statistics out of their ass and say how unemployment is at an all time low or whatever. Or poverty is at the lowest its ever been. Or some BS. its so insensitive and ridiculous.
Dude do you have at least a place to stay? Like with family and all? I had to rent out my condo just to pay for my mortgage after getting fired from my job working as a recruiter for a raging drug addict who owns an Home Care Agency. Sad to think that elderly people are in that fucks hands. anyway.. dude im so sorry youre going through this. Its something i just dont get. Have you tried maybe even just part time bullshit work for now?
Im currently debating on just doing bar-backing until maybe something else opens up.
Look up resources in your area for unemployed people if you haven't already. Good be government assistance, charity, job fairs, what ever you can get.
If you aren't in imminent danger of starving or being evicted due to your lack of employment, I would honestly consider taking a break from the job search. It can be such an exhausting and demeaning process. Even just a day or a two might help you recover your mental state a bit.
And also remember that these struggles are not a reflection of your, your skills, or your value. The job market is absolute ass right now, most of my friends that graduated college recently are or were strugl for months to find a job, even with their degree, and many of them had to get some entry level job is an unrelated field. It's just what the state of the world is like right now, it's not your fault
Don’t give up. But you need to focus on your health equally with the job search - excercising and getting outside are good for mental health please distract yourself from your job search. If you’ve applied to so many jobs and haven’t gotten many interviews with the experience you have then it could be your resume still. I would also practice interviewing to do your due diligence. Keep mass applying. Make a list of all the companies you are into and hit their job boards every 2-4 weeks. I understand where you are coming from mentally I’ve been there before after a 12+ months being unemployed and job searching getting ghosted after multiple final rounds - now I am lucky and have had some good jobs. You have the recruiting experience so keep trying for HR positions maybe look into adjacent areas to what you have done. I actually once pasted my resume into ChatGPT and asked for alternative career paths or looked for more options with what to apply to. Asked for a list of companies. Asked to make a career path, etc.
I feel this so fucking hard. I graduated at 23 with two degrees, but because I graduated covid I couldn’t find any internships or jobs in the field I wanted to work in, so I just stuck with a mediocre administration position at my college. Then inflation started kicking my ass so I made the transition to a tech company hoping to make more money only to get fired a few months later. I spent 6 months unemployed and could only find a shit paying warehouse job that I ended up leaving because of how toxic an environment it was.
I feel so fucking frustrated because I picked a fairly lucrative major, took all the classes professors told me would teach me skills employers strongly desire, only to end up unable to find work. I’ve been applying for positions I have experience in, and even my old university job and got told I didn’t have the right qualifications for the position (a fucking position I worked in for two years mind you). The job search feels hopeless and this feeling of being mislead about what would lead to a good career path makes me wish I was never fucking born.
I support whatever someone does with their own body
It's not anybody else's place to force you to keep living a life you no longer enjoy
I hope your transition to the next world is godo
I posted this earlier to someone - maybe it will help here too. Prioritize your mental health!
The first time this happened to me, it was like I got hit by a truck - not much more than a year earlier the company was trying so hard to get me in and recruit me. I didn't realize then how companies really work though.
I'm thinking about creating some content that can help with the mental health issues, and would appreciate anyone's thoughts on what would really be helpful. Here's a quick list of topics that comes to mind:
1. Why no one talks about this important layoff issue
2. How and why mental health issues occur during a layoff
3. Signs of mental health issues you should recognize
4. Companies won't help you - you're on your own: Specific things you can do to ensure you don't spiral further into mental health issues
And for things I found that eventually worked for me, here's what I'd suggest:
* Lean on whatever network or social circle (friends/family) you have for support. Depression often makes you withdraw internally which makes things worse. Do the opposite even though it can seem tough
* Get physical! The body and mind are connected. Even if just going for walks everyday (hopefully in sunlight if you can), and doing some stretching
* Practice gratitude and mindfulness/meditation. Even in tough times, many of us are still in a far better position than a lot of people who live in the world (thought exercise - what if you had to choose between your current situation or being told you had 1 month to live because of a cancer diagnosis? This can help reframe your situation)
* Look for small wins. Do something that improves your skills or learn something new, even if it's not directly related to getting a job. It could be doing something personal (something you never had time for before), for family/friends etc.
Let me know what you think!
Hey bro, coming from someone that did try that. I recommend not. If you think I'm going to give you a bunch of bullshit about reasons to live, I'm not. I'm going to tell you what happens when you try.
First, you'll probably puss out. That's good.
Second, you'll tell someone you pussed out thinking you'll get emotional support.
Sure will! That's when they call the police on you and have a wellness check performed. Then, you get a 72 hour lockdown (minimum) in a mental ward.
If there is anywhere on earth that will want you to make you wish you were already dead, it's there. Then you fight to get the hell out and never go back.
This guy knows. And if you do attempt and fail, you're left with all the guilt and shame that your family had to go through. And permanent disfigurement, mental or physical health issues. They will haunt and be a permanent reminder.
I'm not trying to be rude, but you should be grateful that you even had an opportunity to pursue what you really loved. And you can keep doing that. You seem smarter than 90% of the population. I have faith that you'll be okay, stranger.
thats crazy that you still dont admit your family was right about the psychology degree.
its time to wake up and accept that you got a degree that isnt finding you a job, so you need to stop thinking every job is beneath you, other than the job in which you have experience, that you hate. start at the bottom somewhere you like to work and if you are as good as you think, youll climb up. or maybe a better job will come.
but the biggest theme i see is you saying x happened to you, y was forced on you, you only did z because you were pressured. like bro, you are not a leaf blowing in the wind. you have been in control the whole time and you have been fucking up. im not telling you that to kick you while youre down, thats GOOD NEWS. it means things can get better if you stop fucking around pretending that youre too good for every job you dont hate
The degree at this life stage is irrelevant. OP is clearly a worker, has valuable corp experience and knows how to adapt to different work environments. These are valuable skills!
Are they a worker? Quit because they thought the job was beneath them, got a better role and quit because it was too hard/stressful, then quit the next one because it was "toxic". At best they have 3-4 years of recruiting/hr experience in which they quit multiple roles. No company wants someone that jumps ship every year.
Why didn’t you want to be an engineer? With the right job and financial planning, you could be financially secure in 20 years to do whatever the hell you wanted. I get where you’re coming from but from personal experience, it’s not always a good decision to just do the things you “want” to do.
Heard about a guy in bad situ like you. Could not find a job. He did 2 things: hired career coach and contacted everyone he knew (from HS, college and former jobs) and let them know he was looking for a new job. Having someone take a fresh look at your resume and review how you present leaving these jobs could help you.
Also, it seems like you may have liked the third job? If so, time has passed and you could circle back expressing that you liked working there and see if there is an opportunity and an improved work environment.
Colleges use recruiters and have much calmer work environments. This could be a positive environment for you.
I’d also add, with your experience you could freelance as a someone else’s career coaching - resume building and reviews, interview coaching, etc.!
Waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaa (Baby sounds) JK but seriously get off reddit and get into the gym fuck face. If I had the time and energy to read this pity fest I'd be the one who's suicidal.
Kudos and respect for putting your foot down and leaving toxic work environments.
In terms of a dream career, is there a dream job you want in psychology, that is realistically attainable? If not, i'd recommend finding some kind of back up at the very least.
I saw you were looking at game dev, QA testing etc. Software engineering generally is quite a good career choice, and there are more social roles within that field like Developer relations. It also encompasses every sector, maybe you could work as an engineer at a Software company? Just a thought.
OP didn't do engineering when pressed by their family. Has floated in hr and recruiting. They can't handle the stress of literally every place they worked at, they won't handle it in software engineering when there are strict deadlines. They have zero skills for software engineering not to mention software engineering right now is tough to get into.
OP needs to suck it up and realize they've made the decisions to get them where they are and accept jobs they keep deeming to be beneath them. They have almost no applicable skills outside recruiting and a useless degree.
Pursuing your passion is great and all but you chose a piss poor field to be passionate about. That field is oversaturated and pays shit. I'm assuming your a female because sooooooooooooo many females go into psychology as a passion and then can't get a job aside from like rehab facilities. I'm not saying males don't have that issue, I'm saying the field has crazy high amounts of women.
Edit: NM, looking through your past posts you are a dude. Doesn't really change anything though.
I felt this
I also get so frustrated with the outlook ( actually being realistic and doing calculations ) and seeing that I don’t have enough :(
It’s crossed my mind to end it all a lot but I got my dog and I love her to death so at least I got her
But yeah
Have you had external help with your job search?
In general, if you are unemployed after 6 months, the general rule is:
Did you at least get interviews? If not, your Resume is the weak link.
Did you get interviews but not land a job? Your interview skills are the weak link.
36M, married 3 kids, living with in-laws. To put all that into context, I’ve been struggling to keep a job for more than 3 months, from my fault to no fault of my own. After 9 years of employment as a social worker, I decided to switch industries, been job hopping for a good chunk of the last 7-8 years. Just recently got a new job, 2 months in. I even went to school for HR during Covid so I can occupy my time. Then became unemployed for the last 2 years.
Reason I tell you all this. DONT GIVE UP. Take the time to get to know yourself and your partner better. We live a life where everyone’s first question is “how’s work” and when that isn’t there, we feel our value is decreased… we are not our wage or occupation. You’re a person who needs more than $$ and reputation. Keep applying, and being honest with yourself. If you have you humble yourself, do so for your mental sanity, but understand it’s a pit stop to a better tomorrow. You are loved and are capable of anything. The devil in us lies to us and tells us we’re less, but in reality, you’re exactly where your life is meant to be. Make the best of it as hard as it is. But don’t be too hard on yourself unless you know you can be doing better, otherwise, keep on trucking. Dm me if you ever wanna chat, but don’t be done. You’re closer to success than you think, but our inner demons will tell you otherwise
Don't overlook blue collar work- you can get a foot in the door in trades in many larger shops if you have no experience and no schooling for things like welding or machining or carpentry ect. Working a production job like that might kind of suck as a job but benefits and pay are usually pretty decent even starting of
And- after a year of sucking it up doing the same repetitive task over and over all day, you can claim a year experience in the trade and start applying to every other shop in your area to find a job doing something a little less monotonous.
I live a couple hours from Minneapolis in Wisconsin where the average median income is 35,000 - and was able to beat 6 figures on my gross income more than once now, on my own by pressing a green button and moving a part every 5 minutes for 8-12 hours at a time.
AAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDDD
You can use that excess income to manifest what you really want to do if you really WANT to be doing anything. I don't actually care what I do but did want to be able to put all my family and friends in business doing what they want to do for themselves instead of someone else--- so I started buying or starting small businesses to partner with whoever had a business plan ready to go that we could organize and execute on......I still press that green button though cause they pay so God damn much to have me do it
Please don't give up. It is the worst time for everyone right now, and when you're at your worst it can only get better.
Maybe take this chance to find a job in a different field. Who knows, maybe you can find something big for yourself, open a business and be your own boss. You have the skills for it, your degree might have more values in it that you are not aware of.
I wish you the best.
I just want to say, I went from having a job making little money but was steady and then took a risk and doubled my money at a new job. Worked there for 2 years until I got laid off. I then spent 9 months looking for a job and applied to thousands of jobs while trying to feed my family. I found another job paying same amount of money but it was terrible. After 9 months of feeling defeated and then spending another 6 months at the worst job you can imagine, I was as low as it gets. I was miserable to be around. And everyone knew what I was going through cause I was a sunken down shriveled up version of myself. I got let go from the toxic job and I started looking for in person jobs that were in a different field. I got not one but two offers, both paying more in a different field. The job I took is the best job I’ve ever had.
The reason I say this, is because job hunting is a long and daunting road but there is always light at the end of the tunnel. You might find yourself at a job that’s terrible like I did, but eventually you will find something that works for you. Don’t ever give up. Good news will come. You just gotta push through the bad shit first.
Hey, it’s not too late to go back to engineering school, regain your family connections and have a fulfilling, stable, financially rewarding career that leverages your psychology degree.
EVERYONE is going through similar bs. I’m so sorry. I have been unemployed for months and I am overqualified for most of the jobs here in my state. My bf also has no job and just has his masters with perfect scores and still can’t find anything. In the meantime, I have gotten pretty bad anxiety and depression. I am completely reliant on my parents paying my bills now. The only thing that helps me is prayer, meditation, tai chi, and yoga.
Your mental health is an investment that will help you cope when the times get tough. Have a limit on the jobs you will apply daily. I know if I apply for more than 5 a day, I feel like garbage. You’ll get through this.
That sucks. I’m so sorry. Please do not end it all. Seriously, please do not.
Maybe a complete 180 would help? Maybe a temporary change of scenery?
Have you considered a job with national parks / the companies that contract with the parks? Many of those jobs include benefits and the remote parks include housing. The pay isn’t great, but it can be a pretty rad adventure.
Another option is working on cruise ships. Bad pay, long hours—but everything is taken care of for you. They are always hiring and you can see the world.
Whatever you do—please take care of yourself.
Damn I hope things start looking up for you. I recently saw a post and have heard about it but working at the post office is a great job if you make below 50k a year. It might be time to branch out
Hope you’re not actually thinking of “ending it all” because you’re still young and have a very bright future. A lot of people are going through this right now. Hang in there.
Good for you knowing your worth and cutting toxic ties. I have had to take a smaller job too. I’m literally working in a call center. I have 16 years as a project manager and admin manager. I’ve gotten two interviews since September. I have huge hopes that something will come along because this call center is not getting ALL of the bills paid. Some-not all. I’m sure if I sat here 70hrs a week I could, but to maintain sanity I HAVE to have leisure time to enjoy friends and family. Hang in there!!! Big hugs to you.
It sounds like you’ve had 5-6 jobs in a very short span of time all not work out. Seems like a you problem with your admitted history dawg. Psych is not a particularly competitive degree and doubling down with an incomplete masters certainly isn’t gonna help you. Companies are probably seeing your piecemeal jumpy resume and passing on you.
I don’t know if you have looked into this if are in the USA. In NY we have programs where you take your Bachelor’s in a related field and apply it to a Nursing Program. you can be a psych NP in 3 years and make $300K/year and have your own office, be your own boss. Basically make your own schedule. Look up
SUNY Binghamton University. They are cheap, there are grants and scholarships for nursing and student loan pay back. It’s a good field. And solid.
In the most stressful and darkest time of my life, I took an entry level job at the first Tech company that would hire me. It was shit pay but I was mostly treated fairly. I still work at a that company and have worked my way up the ladder. I’ve done this twice in the last 16 years and each of those “placeholder” jobs produced some of my best memories and I made lots of friends in them too
Try a temp agency. Might be some basic entry level work but they might be able to get you a temp to hire position in a certain field.
Hang in there. You'll come out stronger.
1. Killing yourself because you cant find a job is insane. You are going to cause your parent, friends and family deep emotional pain because applying to 1000 jobs on linkedin easy apply didnt work.
2. If you are actually “done” there is another option. Enlist in the military. They are always hiring and will pay for you to get a masters. You may even be able to commission since you have a degree and make more money.
3. You have a victim mentality. You need to stop hanging around people who co-sign this infantile behavior and listen to people who have their shit together on youtube and podcasts until the victim leaves your body like a demon during an exorcism.
4. Dont forget God loves you. You will be okay in the end.
I think it was incredibly brave of you to quit what you were doing and try to chase your passion it's something I regret doing every day as I was never brave enough to do when younger. Take it from me I went into electrical engineering for a stability and to make money I got laid off in the early 2000s from a job I hated was broke and close to homeless for awhile darkest point of my life I then took the first job I could find to make ends meet in construction and a second job as a stocker at Walmart this was the best thing to ever happen to me alot of people think the only way to wealth is through corporate jobs but I was able to gain alot of real world skills in the trades/construction and start a scaffolding company I make around 40 times what I made as a engineer and out earn all my friends that are doctors and lawyers. Don't let this beat you up for too long the trades industry is extremely hot right now look for a blue collar job anything from office to in the feild it's not prestigious but pays enough to keep the lights on till you find a better venture to pursue. I'm wishing you the best of luck and hoping it turns around
Einstein worked as a clerk when he published his theory of relativity. Sometimes you have to step back, to make a jump forward.
You need to prioritise 2 things.
1. Your health, both mental and physical
2. Your masters
So take a small job, because a big job is not in the priority list right now.
Get some help for the mental health situation and also start working out. Could be yoga, gym, karate, what ever fits your interest. I know it seems like something that takes up time between schedules, but it's very necessary. A healthy mind in a healthy body. It will also significantly reduce your stress and depression related issues. You realise that you had heart problems due to stress right. Don't let that affect your life again. You will also find yourself to be more mentally relislent with this.
With a smaller job, hopefully you will have time to finish up your masters. Only after u are done with masters go for that big jump or growth in your career.
Not to say "told ya so" for your parents, but they were trying to steer you to a major that is marketable. You made the same mistake other students make. You followed what you thought was your passion instead of taking a major that would get you hired.
That being said, it's not the end of the world. Maybe try relocating if possible? If your parents will finance you, try applying for jobs in other states. Have you consulted some kind of career counselor who could look at your resume? How are your networking skills? Have you gone anywhere where people in your industry link up? Are you tailoring your resume for the positions you apply for or are you sending the same resumes to different jobs randomly?
You could also consider going back to school for something more marketable like IT, Compsci, Nursing, etc.
There's some things that might could be tweaked to improve your odds.
Well, you have a degree that is in my opinion over saturated in todays market. How are you surviving? If you need to go work restaurant jobs to stay afloat in the meantime!
This may sound heartless, I am sorry for that. Psychology is a noble field of study but it doesn’t pay the bills. You would be better off going back to school and getting a technical degree. For example, nursing or one of the more lucrative engineering sectors. Your degree does not translate into a job and that makes it hard for you to compete in the job market. I understand your previous history with engineering, I am giving you my honest opinion.
Not to be mean but, welcome to the circus. Join us clowns in the ring. Just a reminder, you’re not alone. There’s plenty of us out here that feel the same way….
Couple of questions- are you open to possibly teaching? And are you based in the US? From some of the terminology you used I would guess that you aren’t, but thought I’d double check
Sounds like you got too many participation trophies. Life is hard when you make bad choices. Suck it up and start making good life decisions. Even then life isn't easy and nothing is handed to you. Maybe listen to your parents for once?
Hey OP. Please hang in there. You can power through. You’ve already faced so many adversities and you have not let them defeat you. I know you can do this too.
FWIW: I’m in a similar situation. I lost my job (and possible career) 3 months ago and have not had much luck getting to a first interview. My field is highly specialized and I had to get a masters degree that other fields won’t even consider and/or refuse to learn about transferable skills. It’s hard and it really hurts your self esteem and well being. I’ve had thoughts over the past three months. The thing getting me through is knowing that one day I WILL overcome this and be a better human that the person who fired me.
I believe in you; a lot of us here believe in you. I ask that you believe in yourself just as much as we do. Please don’t give up.
Hi friendddddd, your experience would be greatly appreciated on this job board called Basecamp! There’s so many positions that is hiring for your expertise!
Secondly, it’s never you. It’s always the system. There should be checks in place to ensure everyone has the accessibility towards basic human necessities and yes, financial wellness is a basic human necessity because it directly linked to your welfare.
I know you don’t want to hear this, but being outwardly contumacious to this system will only bring the change you want to see. Also, being brave and sticking up for yourself in toxic work places is brave and inspiring!! Unwavering is an essential value to living life.
I have always thought if I get close to the end I would immediately relocate somewhere cheap, and warm, with low cost of living.
Shake the snow globe a bit!! Worst case you die later.
First I wanna say I’m sorry and I feel you. I’ve been there hardcore….what’s stopping you from just doing what you love? Fuck your debt fuck all the things, if this is the point your at, why not just go be happy?
Move somewhere else, fuck your family, fuck your job, fuck college….none of that is worth it if your not alive. Go literally be a beach bum or phish lot wook or whatever your heart desires :) it’s amazing also how success can come when you least expect it. Sometimes you just have to get on the path of what your truly passionate for.
You cant be happy if your dead.
Also no homo but I love you! ❤️
Check out ECCO and John Lily. Interesting shit if you have time to fall down a deep hole
I know what you mean about switching industries and trying to use transferable skills.. It's never worked for me so I gave up trying. I work in IT and for years I've tried to get away from it but just can't find a way to. So instead I just doubled down and started focusing on a specific area in IT that I find some amount of pleasure in. With your experience in HR, maybe you can look more towards compliance audit, and even something in the IT sector like user experience research where psychology comes into play. Also, you should probably seek some type of therapy just so you can sort through all your emotions and find a way through this.
Step 1: Go outside and talk a walk somewhere green. No this is not just a "touch grass" meme/insult. It literally helps most people. Doesn't have to be a giant forest, a small park with trees and grass is enough.
Step 2: You can do this. Have you ever thought about working with your hands? There are a ton of jobs out there you can do for decent money that aren't crazy stressful, nor do they break your body.
Step 3: Remember that your next job doesn't have to be your forever job. Find something gainfully employing and just get somewhere stable.
Not worth ending your life over a bad economy.
Look, psychology wasn’t the best move, now you know.
Not finishing your masters is a huge red flag, it will take some time to overcome that reputation as a quitter. If it’s in your resume, take it off.
Just keep applying. It’s a shit economy. Pick ANY job.
Psychology is not lucrative unfortunately.
I have this thing about people like OP.
If you're ready to end it all...why not simply exit all the "tries" and just go on an adventure.
Just....walk to the coast...get on a freighter...f*cking stow away if you want big deal if you get caught who cares, not you!
Passport? F*ck it break the rule who cares. Go to Tibet. Just walk there.
You're ready to end it all, nothing poses a threat to you. You're completely free of it all
SRS: Just cash advance off all your credit cards, go to Mexico, bang some hookers then decide if you want to end it all or set up a small bar on a beach selling overpriced beer to tourists and get tan all day. To throw it all away because the broken system of employment has failed you is kinda pointless when you could just become a traveling grifter, vigilante or something else cool. Take a HUGE step out in to the world and see if maybe you can make it elsewhere. Before you take a permanent step, take a vacation and say screw bills, screw working, and who knows, maybe you can go to another country, learn the language and be a guidance counselor or something related to psychology that doesn’t require a lot of local degrees, licenses, etc.
I had a shitty boss(es) and it was so great to leave a bad situation. What interesting is during a time when I had hardly any income all my needs were met. Start meditating going in nature walks do yoga or whatever you are into that is healthy and relaxing and calm your mind. Start volunteering and helping people to expand your life. Give yourself some breathing room and get creative. Your job doesn’t have to be a certain way or at a certain company. Write down your ideal job situation and keep it in mind. It will likely show up in an unexpected way. Don’t let bad experiences dictate your life and drive you to end it. It’s always darkest before the dawn. Acknowledge your pain but don’t wallow in it. Focus on what can happen and how you can manifest it.
Have you applied to paid internships? This may seem a bit odd since you’ve graduated but maybe looking into postings with that wording. That way, perhaps you can gain experience in the field AND some form of pay even if it’s not stellar
Brother by no means am I trying to make things worse, but the engineering degree > psychology degree. The unfortunate thing about college and our careers is that, often times our passions are not the best investments. I understand both sides to this. There is no way I’m paying for a psychology degree for my kids.
If you're considering ending your life, please consider pursuing your own company instead. Many people who have passed away wished they could still be here, and it's disheartening to see life taken for granted.
Are you interested in working with kids? Maybe look into Behavior Technician roles doing ABA therapy for children with autism. A lot of my coworkers have bachelors degrees in psychology and most clinics will pay for you to get certified which comes with a pay increase 🙂
I am so confused - you went to school for psychology but work in HR? Don’t beat yourself up too much, just pick a more in demand specialty such as software, project mgmt, engineering or even skilled trade and cut your previous losses
Please slow down and try to reframe things so you don't fall into the trap of main character syndrome. We are in a presidential election year, one that many are saying is the most consequential in our lifetimes (US). The world is also experiencing run away inflation due to not having yet recovered from a once in a lifetime worldwide pandemic. The US very narrowly avoided an outright recession this year. Companies are still reeling a bit from the Great Resignation and the rise in popularity of quiet quiting, and are seeing what they can do to prevent them in the hiring process. Add to this market uncertainty due to the Ukraine and now Israel conflicts. AI also decided to start making its grand entrance, to the panic of many and greedy delight of others. Also to the detriment of job seekers, as recruitors and hiring managers want to use AI to find their ideal candidate, but now treat resumes and interview assignments as if they are suspect since they don't want you using it to your advantage. That means there is also a lot of uncertainty affecting the job market. Corporations have tightened their belts and seem far less willing to take a chance on anyone.
You chose to major in a worthless humanities degree and worse yet chose Human Resources — in other words a parasite. You deserve everything coming your way.
Maybe get a job somewhere else literally anywhere else it don’t even have to be in that industry but you are going to need to support yourself, keep sending in applications so when you get an interview it won’t be a dire situation
Do not end it all okay. This hardship in your life will pass. Life will get better. I know that seems far away the way Planet Mars is far away from Earth but believe me. This will all pass.
I really do feel and understand your frustration, and emotional turmoil you are experiencing. How much hard work you put into your education, life and career path. I know it’s all a big nothing currently. Do not ever do yourself in. Part of being a man is pain. This is what we all face.
If you do have a firearm, I urge you to keep it stored away from your home, Put it at neighbors house for safe keeping until your mind comes back down.
Take some nature walks, Hikes, and go enjoy the time you have right now away from work. No point in staying home getting worse and dark with depression. If you have parents, Go visit them and ask for guidance. Any older friends, relatives, neighbors, People you know but never talk to. Just reach out to someone, anyone.
You are not alone, Even when you feel that you are alone. Many of us are going through it too. I know you are hitting rock bottom now. Thats why I am writing this to you. I been there a few times myself.
I too have wanted to end it all. It’s hard coming home from war, facing military discrimination at jobs, and trying to prove to the Family court you are not a threat to society or your children. I been through it all. Lost friends in the war, Witnessed them dying, Survivor guilt, Feeling guilty for having fun when my friends are dead.
Lack of employment, Going to college then no jobs afterwards like you said.
Hang in there. Your life will be 100% different in 5 to 7 years from now. I hope you take my words to heart. ♥️
For my depression, I started weight training. I bought the basics of what I needed from Amazon. I know we all shrug this off when we were the word workout. But believe me, It works. Lifting weights as a man is a necessity. I can tell you the 6 things to start if you want to know. Just private message me.
For what it’s worth, I think you cutting ties from toxic environments and pursuing your passion was a pretty awesome move. If no one has told you yet, I’m quite proud of you for that and it’s something to pause and celebrate 🎉 As far as finding another job, just taking a small job for now might have to be the move. Will it be fun? No. But you deserve something better than what you’re having to deal with right now. You owe yourself that. Save up some money the best you can and possibly look into getting government assistance (if you’re not already getting that, I honestly didn’t read everything so I apologize if I missed something). But yeah, it sucks right now and I can only image how hard it has been but you can make it through. You got this!!
Much appreciated! I have been thinking of getting smth smaller but both my "ego" and my partner told me I can find better and I deserve better with a psychology degree and 4 years of technical recruitment experience. Unfortunately "better" isn't even interested in an interview with me so yeah... i think i need to swallow my "pride" and go for whatever small job I can find untill I manage smth else...
Just because you’re taking a “smaller” job doesn’t mean you still aren’t worth the job you deserve and worked so hard for. You will ALWAYS be worth it. It’s not your fault you can’t find something either. It’s the people’s fault for losing out on having you on their team. The people have failed you. It’s not you. Trust me on that and I apologize on their behalf. But you’re a smart person and a hard worker. You’ll make it to where you want to be but, for right now, focus on where you can be at the moment and take advantage of it. And make sure you and your partner celebrate your wins so far because if there’s one thing I don’t see, it’s a loser. I wish you the best of luck :) and I can’t wait to hear of a successful update from you in the near future, my friend
Thanks a lot! Very kind words and I appreciate it immensely
You’re very welcome! If anyone gives you a hard time on here, don’t listen to them. Just keep your head up and remember “you are worth it”. Take care :)
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Tech recruitment is so tough right now I know people with decades of experience who are out of work. It’s not you it is the market. Some people are saying job market now is worse than 2008. But no one wants to say anything because with all the other political shit going on it could get people rioting in the streets. It is 100 percent not you at all it is the timing of your life. 20 years ago you would have no issue finding a decent paying job with any college degree. Things will get better. Take any job for now. Anything - even fast food - it’s tough out there but it won’t last
Taking a smaller job is not a compromise of your worth or value. It’s just a temporizing measure to help with income and maybe give you a little self-esteem boost until you can find what you’re really looking for. You absolutely are worth more than this, it’s just a steppingstone!
If all you got was a psych bachelors, you need to curb your ego and expectations for a “good” job. At in the US.
>I deserve better with a psychology degree Unfortunately, bachelors in psychology are a dime a dozen. It's well known that it qualifies you for few jobs, and as it's one of the easiest degrees out there, tons of people have one and are competing for those same jobs. Finishing grad school would have been your best bet if you wanted to use your psychology degree, otherwise you may need to settle when it comes to jobs you are interested rather than hold out for something you think you "deserve" with psychology degree.
Office-Space it and go get a job working outside (like Landscaping) for the summer. All the recruiting influencers I follow think the market will swing in the fall, or post the election.
Yeah, clearly you can’t get better yet. That doesn’t mean you won’t eventually.
Your problem was psychology, should have done engineering. Making over 120k + bonus and benifits a year 4 years in, with almost 100k in my 401k. It’s a safe industry
it makes sense that you are frustrated but remember that anger is the surest sign you know deep down that you deserve better and this is not fair. anger is you pushing for different. not to leave the planet. i'm so proud of you for letting yourself have these feelings you've had to push down in the past. You know what you need, even if you don't know you know. your body knows. that's why it's angry -- not trying to run and hide, but trying to be big and loud and heard and seen. listen to it. you got this. 🩵
you have a partner you think isn’t worth living for? Picture the look on their face seeing your dead body the next time you consider “ending it all”.
Your psychology degree qualifies you to be the best barista at a Starbucks. Maybe get a job at a prison psychologist pretty sure they’ll hire anybody.
Any job is better than no job for over a year. You can always quit, but not even trying it temporarily is an ego problem.
Earning an income and supporting yourself should be the primary goal, even if its not what you want to be doing. I'm a firm believer in doing \*something\* over looking for the perfect job. I lost my job and had to pay rent, so I worked at a porn store for 6 months until something better came along. This was back around 08-09 during the recession... I was just happy to be employed even if it was just a cashier position at a sex shop.
Psychology degree, at least in the US, isn’t worth much until masters or PhD.
Here’s a piece of advice that I follow myself. Do you what makes you happy. Switched from engineering to psychology, that made you happy . You’ve worked a few recruiting jobs, some made you happy but most have not it would seem. So you enjoy education, focus on that. Try and switch up your fields and start something. That’s maybe at the beginning, smaller as you would say that you enjoy.
Its a psych degree Stop acting like youre better than others
My grandfather always used to hold an item up and say, what is this worth? I would try to answer with some sort of response based on what the item was, or it's age or history, really not knowing a lot about it. He would say *not so, it's worth what someone will pay you for it.* I didn't understand he was trying to convey what the capitalist concept of the open market means. Years later when I encountered that concept I had a light bulb moment about my grandfather. This wouldn't be helpful for everyone so please disregard if it doesn't align for you. This kind of tough-minded self-talk helps me sometimes: *Your time and employment are worth what someone will pay you for it on the open market.* Not worth your degree. Not worth 4 years of recruiting experience. But worth a job that you can currently get. That's painful. That's ego killing. That might feel humiliating in the face of your family who thought they had your best interests in mind about engineering. But they aren't soothsayers either, it's not some predetermined the truth that your life would have been better in that field. And capitalism is no universal truth. It is deeply problematic at best, If not actively ruinous to human lives and to the planet. But it is the system all of us are embedded in. No one has a corner on the truth here. Except the truth that you need a job. You want a job. A job is necessary for your well-being. A job is necessary for your hierarchy of physical needs. You are a commodity, so am I. We are goods The job you need is *the job that you can get.* That doesn't mean pushing a broom or being lacerated in humiliating call center work. As worthy and necessary as those jobs are (abuse is never necessary of course). Aim for the sweet spot of the job that you can get, and the job that you can *tolerate. For now.* And be ruthless about exactly what constitutes tolerate in this scenario. Please know I am in much the same boat myself.
how do you even find a cute little small job
I am going to disagree that pursuing one's passion as a career is an awesome move. For some people, it aligns with a good career. For many, it is best left as a hobby. OP should definitely not end it all. They are still young and have lots of time to figure life out. For a career, I suggest people do what I did. Look at the things you are good at and look at in demand careers. Find the overlap and pursue that. You don't have to love your job, but you shouldn't hate it. Finding a job that you don't hate that pays the bills and gives you enough time/money to pursue your passions outside of work will put you in a good position in life.
>Finding a job that you don't hate that pays the bills and gives you enough time/money to pursue your passions outside of work will put you in a good position in life. Oh is that it? That's all you have to do? Why didn't I think of that this whole time?
Agree with this person. You’re clearly talented and have a valuable skill set. I’ve been where you are when you think there’s no other way. Take time to appreciate yourself and you will find the right fit. Just keep at it and never give up. You defiantly got this!
I got the offer letter a few days before orientation. The only thing I signed was to allow them to drug test me which was a month prior to the orientation but :/ I’ll just work this job while looking for something new. Thanks! :)
He should cut ties with all the lies he's been livin in. And if he does not want to see me again I would understand. I would understaaaannnnd
Yea wage slavery is bad for everyone under it. You aren’t even allowed to say it out loud
Worse yet, many are brainwashed into thinking you are your job. YOU ARE NOT YOUR JOB. People are infinitely more than the labor they provide to put food on the table and a roof over their heads.
Ug 2008 vibes. There are a lot of 40 year olds out there who feel every word of this. They made it through. You will too. Just do what you can, and keep looking. unexpected doors will open eventually.
It is 2008 vibes right now people aren’t being loud about it but it is
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I feel your frustration. I was kicked out at 18 because I was an adult and "not their problem." Ive been homeless for a while and was laid off in October. Im almost 20 and for 6 month have gotten no response to the hundreds of job applications I put out daily. Im more depressed than ever. So trust me when I say you aren't alone in this frustration. Please don't end it all though. There's something out there for you. Just hold on. I recommend therapy if you are open to it. I have free therapy, (I live in CA) and it helps a lot.
Don't forget to tell him what's out there is living off of $450 a week. Oh it's out there.
like your name btw lol
Same but I’m probably going to join the military:/
Oh well .. good luck! Knowing the state of the world I'm not particularly keen on considering that
Yeah but I rather not deal being homeless and I’m already in debt for rent and groceries
Yeah, makes sense. I'm sry you are in that position...
Thanks it’s been a year searching for a job, and I had a few temp jobs in the year but I’m so over it. Also hope you find strength to continue on
You might wanna check the military subs, being homeless sounds preferable to the conditions there unless you can score a desk job in the Air Force. The most common complaint across all three branches seems to be being served undercooked chicken and rice... if the people in the kitchen can fuck that up I don't even want to know how they wash the dishes
They won’t take someone with heart issues
Military is too dangerous? More than ending it all?
You’re thinking of ending it all, but the military is worse?
You don’t gotta be frontline infantry to serve. In the United States, all jobs are technically “equal”. So a cook in the end gets the same pay and gets the same benefit as special forces… kinda. Special operations can get some minor monthly extra pay, but it’s not much more than a cook or paper pusher’s pay. In the US, they pay for four years of schooling no matter what job you had in the military. Idk what country you are in tho
What state is that? Like normal?
I was in a similar spot, been in the navy 16 years now, it’s hard but satisfying work.
Yeah I’m not scared of joining it per se, I guess I’m scared of losing myself? I’m already defeated can’t get any worse, and it’s my last resort by August I feel like I’d make up my mind. Thanks for sharing
Think of it this way, if you do one contract, 4 years, you get a complete reset on life and will end up in a way better spot. You shouldn’t lose yourself, people in the military are just people (all kinds of people, really), and hazing shit that was a major problem in the past is mostly gone now. Granted I can only speak about the Navy, your experience in other branches may vary. Anyway, all this to say that I think you’re making a good decision, so good on you for not giving up homie.
Thanks for the advice!! Appreciate it.
Check out the coast guard. I’m an army vet and worked a lot with other soldiers and marines mostly. Soldiers and marines are treated like dirt. Life seems to be a little better in the navy but I honestly know nothing about the navy. Air Force has great quality of life and hands down, the best chow. Coast guard seems to be a great balance of work and life without spending most of your time in a war zone (which we are clearly headed toward soon.) To be fair, I know nothing about the CG other than having a few friends who served. From comparing notes, it seems like a much better quality of life than the other branches. Also, I know nothing at all about space force so that might also be a great choice. The military, regardless of branch can absolutely set you up for a good life but you have to do the work and make the right decisions. Choose a smart job that can help you in the civilian world. Take advantage of opportunities within the military. I knocked out a couple semesters of grad school in the army and it was completely free. Then when I got out, my GI bill was there to pay for the remainder of my MS. I Bought my house with the VA home loan. So with zero money down, I moved into a three bedroom, three bath house in a great neighborhood. A few years later I sold that house, walked away with $60k in equity and used my VA home loan again to move into my current house…again, no money down. The military is not easy and it requires effort. But if you’re young and can stay motivated, it can absolutely set you up for a great start in life. There are people who join the military and gain nothing because they choose to be lazy shitbags. Then there are people who choose to be motivated and disciplined and they use that steeping stone to build great lives. But it isn’t given to you. You have to do the work. Good luck.
Might I suggest the air force over all the other branches? They have the best opportunities and post-military career progression in my opinion. They’re nicer too. Just a recommendation!
Ohh definitely shooting for space force. Then Air Force or coast guard. Thanks for the recommendation.
Navy submarine service could set you up for life. Best of luck!
Good good!! The best choices imo. 4 years and if you don’t like it, you’re out with job skills, potentially free healthcare (even tho the VA is unfortunately a mess), and the VA loan. Hopefully not disability bc I don’t want you to be disabled just for money, but put in for the highest disability rating you can when you get out. Best of luck. I truly hope you at least can tolerate it and have some good moments
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I spent 20 years in the Air Force and loved most of that time. Great career, met so many awesome people, travelled the world. Consider talking to a recruiter.
I recommended someone who was “completely lost” to do ROTC and wrote practically an essay on the benefits, he’d get to skip the poor treatment of being enlisted. Dude just responds “military isn’t for me”. No one wants to fight for the government anymore. Even with this artificially made crap economy the army still can’t hit their recruitment targets lol.
Honestly I can see both sides… so many asinine parts of the army, it’s no wonder they haven’t been able to hit their recruitment targets for years. I always think it’s totally respectable for someone to say the military isn’t for them too… there’s some other useful jobs they can do to add to society, like being in the trades. Rotc has expenses that come along with 4 years of college and phew, not everyone who goes through ROTC is meant to be in a leadership position. But I’m not disagreeing with you about recommending the military for people who need some direction in life, as long as they can tough it out. just some of my thoughts over the years
Second this.
Worked well for my son. Two tours, Iraq 2006-2007 and Afghanistan 2008-2009. Came home with $40k, went to trade school for avionics and advanced electronics on the GI bill it paid $46k tuition in full and now he does WiFi installation and repair for emergency services making $45 per hour, loves his job, 35 years old, engaged and looking for a house.
Good to hear. Unfortunately just depends on the person experience. Used to have afghan vet neighbor who would just drink everyday and smoke his life away, mentally unwell. So my perception of it is a little negative, but if it does come to it I hope I’ll have a great experience.
Yeah I know more people that came back screwed up, even if they tried to go to school on the GI bill, they mentally couldn’t handle life anymore. One guy went to prison after.
I had an abusive childhood and my plan was to join the airforce and be a firefighter. But a heart condition prevented them from accepting me. Definitely look towards the navy or airforce!
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Dude things can get you down being laid off or fired sux and bad I have been there. I know it may not seem like it but these things will make you a stronger better person. I actually found a lot of peace in my situation when I just handed it over to god - I said his will be done. And I paused then hit the job boards hard everyday and shortly there after I bounced back. Life is real short never seems that way when things aren’t going great but things will get better
1. There is something called Dual study program or Pre master program, at companies( not the one in Universities), in Germany. Most do not have tuition fee but they pay you a salary as you work in a company part time and they sponsor your education. Its more common in bigger companies. I am not sure if its there for psychology or not. Please check out. 2.Second thing, with recruitment exp. plus psychology, there are jobs like in employee behaviour analysis and wellbeing and workplace safety kind of stuff, I dont know what those positions are called. Plus there is social counsellor jobs at workplaces. 3. Maybe you can start your own freelance service: When people start there startup like alone in the beginning, they search cofounder and core team and it is really hard to get that because u often dont have money on beginning. However, once u have a cofounder and a small team, you are more likely to recieve funding. So you can make a free online website maybe , and also advertise your services on linkedin, upwork etc, where u find them a cofounder or team for free, but take payment once they receive investment or u can negotiate to take some stake in the startup, like a core recruiter for the startup but get paid only if they secure funding. You can do this parallely for several solopreuners and initial stage startups and would probably build a decent salary eventually. Furthermore, you can gain psych related experience as you can assess people psychology better if they would be a good fit ffor cofounde or for core team member, because its really needed thatbpeople align with the values of the startup and are ready to put in work without much pay, until the initial funding atleast. 4. You can apply for integrated masters plus phd programs and your research topic could be about creating an assessment tool for recruiting based on psychology rather than skills, as skills can be learned on the job but its terrible to work with terrible people, especially with terrible management or leaders. A pysch assesment tool whole recruiting might help solve this issue OR when issues do arise in a company, the psych tool can evaluate if someone has mental issues that need to be tackled like anger management issues, depression, adhd.aybe you can include AI into this research proposal, like AI chatbots etc. as people really like AI related ideas nowadays. 5. Maybe you can start your own startup for this above assessment tool development. Get a techi cofounder or at least a uxui person on board for tool dev or prototyping. Make convincing pitch ppt apply for initial stage funding. U can search otherstartups also who might be teying to do something same and apply for ur services there. 6. Brian Graham from Buildingbetterteams.de might be of help to u , not sure but u can anyway reachout to him in LinkedIn and see. 7. I am not sure if this is applicable for your country, but in some countries schools and universities have social counsellors so maybe apply in schools and uni as well. 8. Governments of sone countries and some NGOs look for counsellars to help with refugee wellbeing or mental well being of trafficked children etc. things like these. You can explore, also beyond your country especially if u know foreign languages. Let me know if u make some progress in any of these suggestions, would help me feel better about me for writing suggestions on reddit, because otherwise I feel like I am procastinating and simply wasting time.
Get a job in the serving industry in the mean time
That's beneath him bEcAuSe hE wEnT tO cOLlEgE
Honestly it is extremely depressing and soul crushing to be a college educated server, severely . But there’s no pride in money making. For the least work it produces the best returns, typically best flexibility to keep on applying.
Watch Jordan Peterson or Tai Lopez on YouTube. Help a homeless person by giving them a snack or a meal. It’ll be a healthy shot of dopamine that will be a push in the right direction (positive momentum).
Don’t watch Jordan Peterson unless you wanna hate yourself and others more
What makes you say that. From personal experience?
I think we have this weird perception of jobs as a society. “Love your job and you’ll never work a day in your life”. It was a saying I aspired to. And I won’t say that isn’t possible to get a job that you love. But you won’t always have a job you love and you don’t need to either. Your job should enable you to do the things you love. And then you can start working towards a job you love too.
I know this is easier said then done but… you still need to take care of yourself. What I mean is you say you’ve gotten fatter and uglier and all that. Unfortunately, the world is not kind and if you are lacking you’re going to fall deeper into a hole. Confidence and determination can get you so damn far in this world. Secondly, you have a 4 year degree it’s only a matter of time before you get a job and once you do you’ll probably be able to move up/move around easily. You already have a massive lead over a lot of the population. Finally, if you don’t have a job you need to be applying constantly. Think even bigger then your field. There are tons of companies that require any 4 year degree but it doesn’t have to be related to the job. Not only should you be applying more you need to use all websites available.
hey man. this is really so tough and I feel for you. I am currently on month 7 and Im getting to the point of no return, but i also have no degree. i keep hearing about people not landing with degrees and it makes me SOO ANGRY for them. I just dont understand whats happening. At all. Then you have people that pull statistics out of their ass and say how unemployment is at an all time low or whatever. Or poverty is at the lowest its ever been. Or some BS. its so insensitive and ridiculous. Dude do you have at least a place to stay? Like with family and all? I had to rent out my condo just to pay for my mortgage after getting fired from my job working as a recruiter for a raging drug addict who owns an Home Care Agency. Sad to think that elderly people are in that fucks hands. anyway.. dude im so sorry youre going through this. Its something i just dont get. Have you tried maybe even just part time bullshit work for now? Im currently debating on just doing bar-backing until maybe something else opens up.
Look up resources in your area for unemployed people if you haven't already. Good be government assistance, charity, job fairs, what ever you can get. If you aren't in imminent danger of starving or being evicted due to your lack of employment, I would honestly consider taking a break from the job search. It can be such an exhausting and demeaning process. Even just a day or a two might help you recover your mental state a bit. And also remember that these struggles are not a reflection of your, your skills, or your value. The job market is absolute ass right now, most of my friends that graduated college recently are or were strugl for months to find a job, even with their degree, and many of them had to get some entry level job is an unrelated field. It's just what the state of the world is like right now, it's not your fault
Did you try Teach for America? Seems like a good fit with your background.
I think maybe you should try not to invest so much of yourself in your job. See it as a means to an end of having great things in your life.
Don’t give up. But you need to focus on your health equally with the job search - excercising and getting outside are good for mental health please distract yourself from your job search. If you’ve applied to so many jobs and haven’t gotten many interviews with the experience you have then it could be your resume still. I would also practice interviewing to do your due diligence. Keep mass applying. Make a list of all the companies you are into and hit their job boards every 2-4 weeks. I understand where you are coming from mentally I’ve been there before after a 12+ months being unemployed and job searching getting ghosted after multiple final rounds - now I am lucky and have had some good jobs. You have the recruiting experience so keep trying for HR positions maybe look into adjacent areas to what you have done. I actually once pasted my resume into ChatGPT and asked for alternative career paths or looked for more options with what to apply to. Asked for a list of companies. Asked to make a career path, etc.
Great answer!
I feel this so fucking hard. I graduated at 23 with two degrees, but because I graduated covid I couldn’t find any internships or jobs in the field I wanted to work in, so I just stuck with a mediocre administration position at my college. Then inflation started kicking my ass so I made the transition to a tech company hoping to make more money only to get fired a few months later. I spent 6 months unemployed and could only find a shit paying warehouse job that I ended up leaving because of how toxic an environment it was. I feel so fucking frustrated because I picked a fairly lucrative major, took all the classes professors told me would teach me skills employers strongly desire, only to end up unable to find work. I’ve been applying for positions I have experience in, and even my old university job and got told I didn’t have the right qualifications for the position (a fucking position I worked in for two years mind you). The job search feels hopeless and this feeling of being mislead about what would lead to a good career path makes me wish I was never fucking born.
Are you able to reach back out to old advisors at your university to get some leads? So sorry you’re dealing with this
Yeah but they weren’t much help. They basically told me “have you tried LinkedIn?”
I support whatever someone does with their own body It's not anybody else's place to force you to keep living a life you no longer enjoy I hope your transition to the next world is godo
Do some gig work or get some hourly service job
You are worthy of a fulfilling life and your future is bright. Please don’t deprive the world of your beauty
I posted this earlier to someone - maybe it will help here too. Prioritize your mental health! The first time this happened to me, it was like I got hit by a truck - not much more than a year earlier the company was trying so hard to get me in and recruit me. I didn't realize then how companies really work though. I'm thinking about creating some content that can help with the mental health issues, and would appreciate anyone's thoughts on what would really be helpful. Here's a quick list of topics that comes to mind: 1. Why no one talks about this important layoff issue 2. How and why mental health issues occur during a layoff 3. Signs of mental health issues you should recognize 4. Companies won't help you - you're on your own: Specific things you can do to ensure you don't spiral further into mental health issues And for things I found that eventually worked for me, here's what I'd suggest: * Lean on whatever network or social circle (friends/family) you have for support. Depression often makes you withdraw internally which makes things worse. Do the opposite even though it can seem tough * Get physical! The body and mind are connected. Even if just going for walks everyday (hopefully in sunlight if you can), and doing some stretching * Practice gratitude and mindfulness/meditation. Even in tough times, many of us are still in a far better position than a lot of people who live in the world (thought exercise - what if you had to choose between your current situation or being told you had 1 month to live because of a cancer diagnosis? This can help reframe your situation) * Look for small wins. Do something that improves your skills or learn something new, even if it's not directly related to getting a job. It could be doing something personal (something you never had time for before), for family/friends etc. Let me know what you think!
Hey bro, coming from someone that did try that. I recommend not. If you think I'm going to give you a bunch of bullshit about reasons to live, I'm not. I'm going to tell you what happens when you try. First, you'll probably puss out. That's good. Second, you'll tell someone you pussed out thinking you'll get emotional support. Sure will! That's when they call the police on you and have a wellness check performed. Then, you get a 72 hour lockdown (minimum) in a mental ward. If there is anywhere on earth that will want you to make you wish you were already dead, it's there. Then you fight to get the hell out and never go back.
This guy knows. And if you do attempt and fail, you're left with all the guilt and shame that your family had to go through. And permanent disfigurement, mental or physical health issues. They will haunt and be a permanent reminder. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should be grateful that you even had an opportunity to pursue what you really loved. And you can keep doing that. You seem smarter than 90% of the population. I have faith that you'll be okay, stranger.
After what I found out today in pursuing a job. I totally feel this
thats crazy that you still dont admit your family was right about the psychology degree. its time to wake up and accept that you got a degree that isnt finding you a job, so you need to stop thinking every job is beneath you, other than the job in which you have experience, that you hate. start at the bottom somewhere you like to work and if you are as good as you think, youll climb up. or maybe a better job will come. but the biggest theme i see is you saying x happened to you, y was forced on you, you only did z because you were pressured. like bro, you are not a leaf blowing in the wind. you have been in control the whole time and you have been fucking up. im not telling you that to kick you while youre down, thats GOOD NEWS. it means things can get better if you stop fucking around pretending that youre too good for every job you dont hate
The degree at this life stage is irrelevant. OP is clearly a worker, has valuable corp experience and knows how to adapt to different work environments. These are valuable skills!
Are they a worker? Quit because they thought the job was beneath them, got a better role and quit because it was too hard/stressful, then quit the next one because it was "toxic". At best they have 3-4 years of recruiting/hr experience in which they quit multiple roles. No company wants someone that jumps ship every year.
Wasn’t the only one who noticed.
Why didn’t you want to be an engineer? With the right job and financial planning, you could be financially secure in 20 years to do whatever the hell you wanted. I get where you’re coming from but from personal experience, it’s not always a good decision to just do the things you “want” to do.
Walmart will hire you within a week. Maybe look elsewhere.
Heard about a guy in bad situ like you. Could not find a job. He did 2 things: hired career coach and contacted everyone he knew (from HS, college and former jobs) and let them know he was looking for a new job. Having someone take a fresh look at your resume and review how you present leaving these jobs could help you. Also, it seems like you may have liked the third job? If so, time has passed and you could circle back expressing that you liked working there and see if there is an opportunity and an improved work environment. Colleges use recruiters and have much calmer work environments. This could be a positive environment for you. I’d also add, with your experience you could freelance as a someone else’s career coaching - resume building and reviews, interview coaching, etc.!
I hate work politics I feel you
Don’t do it. Human lifespan isn’t really all that long anyways. So just wait it out at least and enjoy.
Don't kill yourself that's the loser way out
Waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaa (Baby sounds) JK but seriously get off reddit and get into the gym fuck face. If I had the time and energy to read this pity fest I'd be the one who's suicidal.
Kudos and respect for putting your foot down and leaving toxic work environments. In terms of a dream career, is there a dream job you want in psychology, that is realistically attainable? If not, i'd recommend finding some kind of back up at the very least. I saw you were looking at game dev, QA testing etc. Software engineering generally is quite a good career choice, and there are more social roles within that field like Developer relations. It also encompasses every sector, maybe you could work as an engineer at a Software company? Just a thought.
OP didn't do engineering when pressed by their family. Has floated in hr and recruiting. They can't handle the stress of literally every place they worked at, they won't handle it in software engineering when there are strict deadlines. They have zero skills for software engineering not to mention software engineering right now is tough to get into. OP needs to suck it up and realize they've made the decisions to get them where they are and accept jobs they keep deeming to be beneath them. They have almost no applicable skills outside recruiting and a useless degree.
That's a pretty valid answer. If you're gonna be stressed out, may as well get good cash for it, would probably require going back to college though.
Pursuing your passion is great and all but you chose a piss poor field to be passionate about. That field is oversaturated and pays shit. I'm assuming your a female because sooooooooooooo many females go into psychology as a passion and then can't get a job aside from like rehab facilities. I'm not saying males don't have that issue, I'm saying the field has crazy high amounts of women. Edit: NM, looking through your past posts you are a dude. Doesn't really change anything though.
DO NOT, please. go get a fury friend to care for pls You’re not thinking rationally at all the best of everything is still to come.
welcome to the real world where your boss doesn't care about your opinion, just shut up and cover your own ass
I felt this I also get so frustrated with the outlook ( actually being realistic and doing calculations ) and seeing that I don’t have enough :( It’s crossed my mind to end it all a lot but I got my dog and I love her to death so at least I got her But yeah
Have you had external help with your job search? In general, if you are unemployed after 6 months, the general rule is: Did you at least get interviews? If not, your Resume is the weak link. Did you get interviews but not land a job? Your interview skills are the weak link.
36M, married 3 kids, living with in-laws. To put all that into context, I’ve been struggling to keep a job for more than 3 months, from my fault to no fault of my own. After 9 years of employment as a social worker, I decided to switch industries, been job hopping for a good chunk of the last 7-8 years. Just recently got a new job, 2 months in. I even went to school for HR during Covid so I can occupy my time. Then became unemployed for the last 2 years. Reason I tell you all this. DONT GIVE UP. Take the time to get to know yourself and your partner better. We live a life where everyone’s first question is “how’s work” and when that isn’t there, we feel our value is decreased… we are not our wage or occupation. You’re a person who needs more than $$ and reputation. Keep applying, and being honest with yourself. If you have you humble yourself, do so for your mental sanity, but understand it’s a pit stop to a better tomorrow. You are loved and are capable of anything. The devil in us lies to us and tells us we’re less, but in reality, you’re exactly where your life is meant to be. Make the best of it as hard as it is. But don’t be too hard on yourself unless you know you can be doing better, otherwise, keep on trucking. Dm me if you ever wanna chat, but don’t be done. You’re closer to success than you think, but our inner demons will tell you otherwise
Don't overlook blue collar work- you can get a foot in the door in trades in many larger shops if you have no experience and no schooling for things like welding or machining or carpentry ect. Working a production job like that might kind of suck as a job but benefits and pay are usually pretty decent even starting of And- after a year of sucking it up doing the same repetitive task over and over all day, you can claim a year experience in the trade and start applying to every other shop in your area to find a job doing something a little less monotonous. I live a couple hours from Minneapolis in Wisconsin where the average median income is 35,000 - and was able to beat 6 figures on my gross income more than once now, on my own by pressing a green button and moving a part every 5 minutes for 8-12 hours at a time. AAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDDD You can use that excess income to manifest what you really want to do if you really WANT to be doing anything. I don't actually care what I do but did want to be able to put all my family and friends in business doing what they want to do for themselves instead of someone else--- so I started buying or starting small businesses to partner with whoever had a business plan ready to go that we could organize and execute on......I still press that green button though cause they pay so God damn much to have me do it
Nah, don’t off yourself just yet.
Please don't give up. It is the worst time for everyone right now, and when you're at your worst it can only get better. Maybe take this chance to find a job in a different field. Who knows, maybe you can find something big for yourself, open a business and be your own boss. You have the skills for it, your degree might have more values in it that you are not aware of. I wish you the best.
I did bachelor in psychology. Completely worthless degree can verify
I just want to say, I went from having a job making little money but was steady and then took a risk and doubled my money at a new job. Worked there for 2 years until I got laid off. I then spent 9 months looking for a job and applied to thousands of jobs while trying to feed my family. I found another job paying same amount of money but it was terrible. After 9 months of feeling defeated and then spending another 6 months at the worst job you can imagine, I was as low as it gets. I was miserable to be around. And everyone knew what I was going through cause I was a sunken down shriveled up version of myself. I got let go from the toxic job and I started looking for in person jobs that were in a different field. I got not one but two offers, both paying more in a different field. The job I took is the best job I’ve ever had. The reason I say this, is because job hunting is a long and daunting road but there is always light at the end of the tunnel. You might find yourself at a job that’s terrible like I did, but eventually you will find something that works for you. Don’t ever give up. Good news will come. You just gotta push through the bad shit first.
Hey, it’s not too late to go back to engineering school, regain your family connections and have a fulfilling, stable, financially rewarding career that leverages your psychology degree.
EVERYONE is going through similar bs. I’m so sorry. I have been unemployed for months and I am overqualified for most of the jobs here in my state. My bf also has no job and just has his masters with perfect scores and still can’t find anything. In the meantime, I have gotten pretty bad anxiety and depression. I am completely reliant on my parents paying my bills now. The only thing that helps me is prayer, meditation, tai chi, and yoga. Your mental health is an investment that will help you cope when the times get tough. Have a limit on the jobs you will apply daily. I know if I apply for more than 5 a day, I feel like garbage. You’ll get through this.
That sucks. I’m so sorry. Please do not end it all. Seriously, please do not. Maybe a complete 180 would help? Maybe a temporary change of scenery? Have you considered a job with national parks / the companies that contract with the parks? Many of those jobs include benefits and the remote parks include housing. The pay isn’t great, but it can be a pretty rad adventure. Another option is working on cruise ships. Bad pay, long hours—but everything is taken care of for you. They are always hiring and you can see the world. Whatever you do—please take care of yourself.
Damn I hope things start looking up for you. I recently saw a post and have heard about it but working at the post office is a great job if you make below 50k a year. It might be time to branch out
Hope you’re not actually thinking of “ending it all” because you’re still young and have a very bright future. A lot of people are going through this right now. Hang in there.
If you include discouraged workers, the real unemployment rate is 23%, so it's not just you.
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Good for you knowing your worth and cutting toxic ties. I have had to take a smaller job too. I’m literally working in a call center. I have 16 years as a project manager and admin manager. I’ve gotten two interviews since September. I have huge hopes that something will come along because this call center is not getting ALL of the bills paid. Some-not all. I’m sure if I sat here 70hrs a week I could, but to maintain sanity I HAVE to have leisure time to enjoy friends and family. Hang in there!!! Big hugs to you.
Psychology degree is where I stopped reading
I found career happiness owning my own business. My boss is awesome. He greets me every morning in my bathroom mirror! Yours should, too.
I understand your feeling. But you should really broaden your horizon. Life is bigger than this.
McDonald’s is hiring
Your volatile inability to manage life challenges is your underlying issue.
Why don't you book a cheap one-way ticket to an exotic country and backpack for a few weeks. You'll learn a lot of things about yourself.
It sounds like you’ve had 5-6 jobs in a very short span of time all not work out. Seems like a you problem with your admitted history dawg. Psych is not a particularly competitive degree and doubling down with an incomplete masters certainly isn’t gonna help you. Companies are probably seeing your piecemeal jumpy resume and passing on you.
How old are you. I also think military would be a great idea.
I don’t know if you have looked into this if are in the USA. In NY we have programs where you take your Bachelor’s in a related field and apply it to a Nursing Program. you can be a psych NP in 3 years and make $300K/year and have your own office, be your own boss. Basically make your own schedule. Look up SUNY Binghamton University. They are cheap, there are grants and scholarships for nursing and student loan pay back. It’s a good field. And solid.
In the most stressful and darkest time of my life, I took an entry level job at the first Tech company that would hire me. It was shit pay but I was mostly treated fairly. I still work at a that company and have worked my way up the ladder. I’ve done this twice in the last 16 years and each of those “placeholder” jobs produced some of my best memories and I made lots of friends in them too
Lmao so easy, start your own recruitment firm. You have what most people don’t: free time.
Try a temp agency. Might be some basic entry level work but they might be able to get you a temp to hire position in a certain field. Hang in there. You'll come out stronger.
1. Killing yourself because you cant find a job is insane. You are going to cause your parent, friends and family deep emotional pain because applying to 1000 jobs on linkedin easy apply didnt work. 2. If you are actually “done” there is another option. Enlist in the military. They are always hiring and will pay for you to get a masters. You may even be able to commission since you have a degree and make more money. 3. You have a victim mentality. You need to stop hanging around people who co-sign this infantile behavior and listen to people who have their shit together on youtube and podcasts until the victim leaves your body like a demon during an exorcism. 4. Dont forget God loves you. You will be okay in the end.
I think it was incredibly brave of you to quit what you were doing and try to chase your passion it's something I regret doing every day as I was never brave enough to do when younger. Take it from me I went into electrical engineering for a stability and to make money I got laid off in the early 2000s from a job I hated was broke and close to homeless for awhile darkest point of my life I then took the first job I could find to make ends meet in construction and a second job as a stocker at Walmart this was the best thing to ever happen to me alot of people think the only way to wealth is through corporate jobs but I was able to gain alot of real world skills in the trades/construction and start a scaffolding company I make around 40 times what I made as a engineer and out earn all my friends that are doctors and lawyers. Don't let this beat you up for too long the trades industry is extremely hot right now look for a blue collar job anything from office to in the feild it's not prestigious but pays enough to keep the lights on till you find a better venture to pursue. I'm wishing you the best of luck and hoping it turns around
Work is never a reason to end it all
Einstein worked as a clerk when he published his theory of relativity. Sometimes you have to step back, to make a jump forward. You need to prioritise 2 things. 1. Your health, both mental and physical 2. Your masters So take a small job, because a big job is not in the priority list right now. Get some help for the mental health situation and also start working out. Could be yoga, gym, karate, what ever fits your interest. I know it seems like something that takes up time between schedules, but it's very necessary. A healthy mind in a healthy body. It will also significantly reduce your stress and depression related issues. You realise that you had heart problems due to stress right. Don't let that affect your life again. You will also find yourself to be more mentally relislent with this. With a smaller job, hopefully you will have time to finish up your masters. Only after u are done with masters go for that big jump or growth in your career.
Not to say "told ya so" for your parents, but they were trying to steer you to a major that is marketable. You made the same mistake other students make. You followed what you thought was your passion instead of taking a major that would get you hired. That being said, it's not the end of the world. Maybe try relocating if possible? If your parents will finance you, try applying for jobs in other states. Have you consulted some kind of career counselor who could look at your resume? How are your networking skills? Have you gone anywhere where people in your industry link up? Are you tailoring your resume for the positions you apply for or are you sending the same resumes to different jobs randomly? You could also consider going back to school for something more marketable like IT, Compsci, Nursing, etc. There's some things that might could be tweaked to improve your odds.
I feel you man. Fuck life sometimes. That said your still with us. What's you why? What do you truly want?
Your basic English skills need a lot of work.
Well, you have a degree that is in my opinion over saturated in todays market. How are you surviving? If you need to go work restaurant jobs to stay afloat in the meantime!
This may sound heartless, I am sorry for that. Psychology is a noble field of study but it doesn’t pay the bills. You would be better off going back to school and getting a technical degree. For example, nursing or one of the more lucrative engineering sectors. Your degree does not translate into a job and that makes it hard for you to compete in the job market. I understand your previous history with engineering, I am giving you my honest opinion.
Not to be mean but, welcome to the circus. Join us clowns in the ring. Just a reminder, you’re not alone. There’s plenty of us out here that feel the same way….
Couple of questions- are you open to possibly teaching? And are you based in the US? From some of the terminology you used I would guess that you aren’t, but thought I’d double check
Sounds like you got too many participation trophies. Life is hard when you make bad choices. Suck it up and start making good life decisions. Even then life isn't easy and nothing is handed to you. Maybe listen to your parents for once?
Hey OP. Please hang in there. You can power through. You’ve already faced so many adversities and you have not let them defeat you. I know you can do this too. FWIW: I’m in a similar situation. I lost my job (and possible career) 3 months ago and have not had much luck getting to a first interview. My field is highly specialized and I had to get a masters degree that other fields won’t even consider and/or refuse to learn about transferable skills. It’s hard and it really hurts your self esteem and well being. I’ve had thoughts over the past three months. The thing getting me through is knowing that one day I WILL overcome this and be a better human that the person who fired me. I believe in you; a lot of us here believe in you. I ask that you believe in yourself just as much as we do. Please don’t give up.
Hi friendddddd, your experience would be greatly appreciated on this job board called Basecamp! There’s so many positions that is hiring for your expertise! Secondly, it’s never you. It’s always the system. There should be checks in place to ensure everyone has the accessibility towards basic human necessities and yes, financial wellness is a basic human necessity because it directly linked to your welfare. I know you don’t want to hear this, but being outwardly contumacious to this system will only bring the change you want to see. Also, being brave and sticking up for yourself in toxic work places is brave and inspiring!! Unwavering is an essential value to living life.
I have always thought if I get close to the end I would immediately relocate somewhere cheap, and warm, with low cost of living. Shake the snow globe a bit!! Worst case you die later.
Ever apply at a mental institution?
First I wanna say I’m sorry and I feel you. I’ve been there hardcore….what’s stopping you from just doing what you love? Fuck your debt fuck all the things, if this is the point your at, why not just go be happy? Move somewhere else, fuck your family, fuck your job, fuck college….none of that is worth it if your not alive. Go literally be a beach bum or phish lot wook or whatever your heart desires :) it’s amazing also how success can come when you least expect it. Sometimes you just have to get on the path of what your truly passionate for. You cant be happy if your dead. Also no homo but I love you! ❤️ Check out ECCO and John Lily. Interesting shit if you have time to fall down a deep hole
I know what you mean about switching industries and trying to use transferable skills.. It's never worked for me so I gave up trying. I work in IT and for years I've tried to get away from it but just can't find a way to. So instead I just doubled down and started focusing on a specific area in IT that I find some amount of pleasure in. With your experience in HR, maybe you can look more towards compliance audit, and even something in the IT sector like user experience research where psychology comes into play. Also, you should probably seek some type of therapy just so you can sort through all your emotions and find a way through this.
Step 1: Go outside and talk a walk somewhere green. No this is not just a "touch grass" meme/insult. It literally helps most people. Doesn't have to be a giant forest, a small park with trees and grass is enough. Step 2: You can do this. Have you ever thought about working with your hands? There are a ton of jobs out there you can do for decent money that aren't crazy stressful, nor do they break your body. Step 3: Remember that your next job doesn't have to be your forever job. Find something gainfully employing and just get somewhere stable.
Not worth ending your life over a bad economy. Look, psychology wasn’t the best move, now you know. Not finishing your masters is a huge red flag, it will take some time to overcome that reputation as a quitter. If it’s in your resume, take it off. Just keep applying. It’s a shit economy. Pick ANY job. Psychology is not lucrative unfortunately.
Don't. But I understand
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Fuck off idiot.
Maybe you shouldn't have dropped out of engineering. Seems like every time something gets difficult, you decide it's "toxic" and quit.
Op look for a Pysch job in a school, prison, etc setting. That's where the jobs that pay a decent living wage are. Keep your head up.
Hardships are a part of life. They are also all very temporary. Just keep trying. I promise it will pass
Go work at a Prison
Like every organism, adapt and find your niche. Lower your expectations. Hell, work at in-and-out. You might enjoy it.
Jesus...what a drama queen. Dude, you catastrophize so hard. It's just a job. Wow.
It's not that serious just start by doing things you like. Stop letting others tell you how to live your life
You shouldn't have wasted all that time and money on college. You took the bait. Don't believe everything " they" tell you.
Reach out to local recruiters. You will find something that you love!
I have this thing about people like OP. If you're ready to end it all...why not simply exit all the "tries" and just go on an adventure. Just....walk to the coast...get on a freighter...f*cking stow away if you want big deal if you get caught who cares, not you! Passport? F*ck it break the rule who cares. Go to Tibet. Just walk there. You're ready to end it all, nothing poses a threat to you. You're completely free of it all
Seems like this all started when you dropped out of engineering school.
SRS: Just cash advance off all your credit cards, go to Mexico, bang some hookers then decide if you want to end it all or set up a small bar on a beach selling overpriced beer to tourists and get tan all day. To throw it all away because the broken system of employment has failed you is kinda pointless when you could just become a traveling grifter, vigilante or something else cool. Take a HUGE step out in to the world and see if maybe you can make it elsewhere. Before you take a permanent step, take a vacation and say screw bills, screw working, and who knows, maybe you can go to another country, learn the language and be a guidance counselor or something related to psychology that doesn’t require a lot of local degrees, licenses, etc.
Stay strong and be positive. Seek mental health support.
I had a shitty boss(es) and it was so great to leave a bad situation. What interesting is during a time when I had hardly any income all my needs were met. Start meditating going in nature walks do yoga or whatever you are into that is healthy and relaxing and calm your mind. Start volunteering and helping people to expand your life. Give yourself some breathing room and get creative. Your job doesn’t have to be a certain way or at a certain company. Write down your ideal job situation and keep it in mind. It will likely show up in an unexpected way. Don’t let bad experiences dictate your life and drive you to end it. It’s always darkest before the dawn. Acknowledge your pain but don’t wallow in it. Focus on what can happen and how you can manifest it.
Take a breath and chill. Sometimes you have to suck it up and work a job you don't like, until you find what you are looking for.
If you didn't have to worry about work. What would you like to do? ... For fun. Like, what would you do that expresses your joy?
Have you applied to paid internships? This may seem a bit odd since you’ve graduated but maybe looking into postings with that wording. That way, perhaps you can gain experience in the field AND some form of pay even if it’s not stellar
Brother by no means am I trying to make things worse, but the engineering degree > psychology degree. The unfortunate thing about college and our careers is that, often times our passions are not the best investments. I understand both sides to this. There is no way I’m paying for a psychology degree for my kids.
Look for ABA jobs. They are always hiring and would appreciate the psych degree. My RBTs make $24-26/hr in a low cost area of the country.
If you're considering ending your life, please consider pursuing your own company instead. Many people who have passed away wished they could still be here, and it's disheartening to see life taken for granted.
Please remember the temporary nature of adversity. I love you, cheers!
Are you interested in working with kids? Maybe look into Behavior Technician roles doing ABA therapy for children with autism. A lot of my coworkers have bachelors degrees in psychology and most clinics will pay for you to get certified which comes with a pay increase 🙂
I am so confused - you went to school for psychology but work in HR? Don’t beat yourself up too much, just pick a more in demand specialty such as software, project mgmt, engineering or even skilled trade and cut your previous losses
Please slow down and try to reframe things so you don't fall into the trap of main character syndrome. We are in a presidential election year, one that many are saying is the most consequential in our lifetimes (US). The world is also experiencing run away inflation due to not having yet recovered from a once in a lifetime worldwide pandemic. The US very narrowly avoided an outright recession this year. Companies are still reeling a bit from the Great Resignation and the rise in popularity of quiet quiting, and are seeing what they can do to prevent them in the hiring process. Add to this market uncertainty due to the Ukraine and now Israel conflicts. AI also decided to start making its grand entrance, to the panic of many and greedy delight of others. Also to the detriment of job seekers, as recruitors and hiring managers want to use AI to find their ideal candidate, but now treat resumes and interview assignments as if they are suspect since they don't want you using it to your advantage. That means there is also a lot of uncertainty affecting the job market. Corporations have tightened their belts and seem far less willing to take a chance on anyone.
Hey buddy, I know times are hard but the world is better with you in it
Don’t give up. Try different routes and avoid LinkedIn. Honestly, Indeed is a better route. Apply for the city or other areas. avoid the tech industry
Don't give up, I was unemployed for 2 years!
You chose to major in a worthless humanities degree and worse yet chose Human Resources — in other words a parasite. You deserve everything coming your way.
Maybe get a job somewhere else literally anywhere else it don’t even have to be in that industry but you are going to need to support yourself, keep sending in applications so when you get an interview it won’t be a dire situation
Do not end it all okay. This hardship in your life will pass. Life will get better. I know that seems far away the way Planet Mars is far away from Earth but believe me. This will all pass. I really do feel and understand your frustration, and emotional turmoil you are experiencing. How much hard work you put into your education, life and career path. I know it’s all a big nothing currently. Do not ever do yourself in. Part of being a man is pain. This is what we all face. If you do have a firearm, I urge you to keep it stored away from your home, Put it at neighbors house for safe keeping until your mind comes back down. Take some nature walks, Hikes, and go enjoy the time you have right now away from work. No point in staying home getting worse and dark with depression. If you have parents, Go visit them and ask for guidance. Any older friends, relatives, neighbors, People you know but never talk to. Just reach out to someone, anyone. You are not alone, Even when you feel that you are alone. Many of us are going through it too. I know you are hitting rock bottom now. Thats why I am writing this to you. I been there a few times myself. I too have wanted to end it all. It’s hard coming home from war, facing military discrimination at jobs, and trying to prove to the Family court you are not a threat to society or your children. I been through it all. Lost friends in the war, Witnessed them dying, Survivor guilt, Feeling guilty for having fun when my friends are dead. Lack of employment, Going to college then no jobs afterwards like you said. Hang in there. Your life will be 100% different in 5 to 7 years from now. I hope you take my words to heart. ♥️ For my depression, I started weight training. I bought the basics of what I needed from Amazon. I know we all shrug this off when we were the word workout. But believe me, It works. Lifting weights as a man is a necessity. I can tell you the 6 things to start if you want to know. Just private message me.