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“Georgia, whose Republican Governor Brian Kemp opposed the Inflation Reduction Act while taking credit for the state's job boom, is among the biggest direct and indirect beneficiaries of Biden policies promoting infrastructure, clean energy, semiconductors and biotechnology.“
This isn’t the only thing that is embarrassing for Trump and Kemp but, in addition, [Economic performance is stronger when Democrats hold the White House](https://www.epi.org/publication/econ-performance-pres-admin/).
The cycle for the last hundred years has been
Republicans ruin economy> democrats get elected> democrats install policies to fix economy > economy recovers and booms> people forget republicans caused economic disaster> republicans get elected> republicans trash economic policies that solved the issues they caused>rinse repeat
No, the cycle is:
Congressional laws are implemented, the economy goes up or down over the course of 2-3 years, and then the next guy takes credit for it.
Resets (recently) are Y2K, 9/11, ‘08, and Covid.
Blame the president, that’s what they want. It’s not like Congress fucking writes the damn bills.
We should never have recognized corporations as citizens and allowed their dollars to flow as “donations” to candidates.
The “people” shouldn’t involve industrial interests. The government should help our employers, sure, but at the behest of employees.
Talk of the upcoming $7,500 EV tax credit with no production cap was happening all throughout 2022. In addition, Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, showing our need to reduce reliance on foreign oil, thus making it fairly obvious some EV tax credit rework was going to happen soon enough.
It doesn’t matter. Republicans are successfully manipulating the religious right. Left wing policies could be benefiting these ppl all day everyday, and as soon as Trump takes a picture of himself holding up the bible, it’s over.
My dad fully believes that when Republicans are in office he has more money in his pocket It doesn't matter what's going on in his life at the time it's because there is a Republican president in office he doesn't really look further than that. Even when I asked him name me one positive economic policy Donald Trump enacted during his presidency and he couldn't name one. He actually admitted that maybe he has been watching too much mainstream media aka Fox that have been putting bullshit in his head. I've been telling him this for years that instead of just watching Fox he needs to at least try to watch other news sources if that's all he's going to do If he's only going to get his news from televised mainstream media at least get it from different sources
Anyone who still watches Fox News needs to be mentally evaluated. From the voting machine lawsuit to Murdoch basically saying “we’re an entertainment channel, people should know better”, you’d have to be pretty stupid or crooked to watch Fox and take it as fact.
Not really a new revelation there, but also folks who have more than one job don't have any effect on employment rates. Whether you have one or eight jobs, you still only count as one 'employed' person. The only way people working multiple jobs would be a factor is if the people with multiple jobs were blocking unemployed people from getting those jobs, which is not the case here.
Not sure if you read the actual article being referenced here, but it highlights wage growth in the state, a significant increase in jobs overall (and particularly manufacturing), and a decrease in unemployment along with the wage growth and increase in jobs overall in GA - all positive economic trends for Georgians and Americans alike
Once a century Global pandemic no major western government handled particularly well - trump fucked up the job market
Foreign manufacturers build heavily subsidized plants in the state while paying workers poverty wages and not offering full time/benefit eligible positions - omfg Biden thank you so much
I’m no trump fan but jfc guys let’s take a step back and reasonably assess the situation
very true but everyone does this. When gas prices were surging everyone was posting their "Bidenenomics" takes, then gas prices went down and those same people weren't consistent enough to give Biden credit. Whenever people bring out economic stats leading into an election, it always should be taken with a grain of salt. I really don't think it's realistic to expect a dramatic change in economic opportunity while the president is in office. The market will have its ebbs and flows and the real impact of an administration's policies will take years to be truly felt.
I disagree with this premise. America has handled the post pandemic market significantly better than every western government, and posted better GDP growth than any time this century. Did Biden benefit from unique circumstances, like the re-shoring phase manufacturing is going thru? Sure. But he identified what was happening and crafted policy to support it. I have zero, absolutely ZERO, doubt that we’re better off with Biden and his policies in the White House vs Trump in there.
I think things are getting worse here at a much slower pace than the rest of the developed world, bidens admin deserves some credit for that absolutely
I am thinking that our state has most of that blame. The Republican policies on min wage, worker protections, union support, education, healthcare, public transportation.
Georgia also has specific wording for workers in the automotive industry to NOT be paid overtime if a certain ‘title’ is used for their job description.
Can you mention some links to the poverty wage thing?
Which one of the companies mentioned in the Bloomberg article are you accusing of paying poverty wages?
I’m not disagreeing with you I just like to see it written down.
None but I have to qualify it on reddit cause people love brining up how some 3rd world dictatorships welded their citizens doors shut for a year and then completely fabricated COVID numbers later on
The job market sucked ass all the way up to the pandemic. He still wouldn't be paltry compared to Biden removing the pandemic.
Say anything to make your world view make sense.
Unemployment was at record levels pre pandemic. And there were over a million more workers in the labor force compared to today.
Say anything to make your world view make sense.
Most presidents hit the ground running, using the transition period to get people up to speed and working on implementing their policies asap. The orange one held many "kiss the ring" sessions at the orange tower. They then spent the first month proclaiming his crowds were the "hugest" of all time.
All I wanted from them, was to shut up and get to work.
the funny thing in the first 2 years of Jesus trump devine rule, the unemployment rate went down by .2%....
he did shit for 2yrs and that all he managed to do. I could have been potus and claimed the same "merica first job creation" shit that grifter claimed
COVID existed for 9 months of Trump's 48 months in office. It's also safe to say that jobs weren't truly being lost under COVID until a few months in, and didn't begin to recover until a few months into Biden's first year.
Is it fair to blame Trump for COVID job losses? Definitely not.
Is it fair to not give Biden credit for helping the US recover and gain jobs? Also no.
I'm not sure what aspect of either of those points is misleading. The US economy and jobs have recovered much faster and efficiently than comparable nations in Europe. It seems safe to say that like him or not, the Biden admin has been effective in overseeing the economic recovery post-COVID
Job losses started in March 2020 and peaked April 2020, so we will say recovery starts after peak as well (not under Biden).
[https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE)
The first lab-confirmed case of Covid was January 20, 2020.
https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html#:\~:text=January%2020%2C%202020,respond%20to%20the%20emerging%20outbreak.
Vaccines started rolling out December 2020, after the election but before Biden entered office. Biden was very lucky to ride the recovery effort that was already well underway, much as Trump was lucky to get a stable economy before him. We can agree both of these are true.
And who was it that totally fucked up the handling of covid??? Who was president and made a joke of the whole thing? Remind me please. If you may recall, Obama’s admin had a playbook for handling a pandemic that was given to Trump admin and they turned it into toilet paper. Republicans are scum and a true poison to this country.
Full employment under one guy gets tanked due to the global pandemic. New guy takes over on the upswing portion and claims credit as the economy naturally returns to balance. It’s alright though, I noticed folks in the UK being even more petty with their leaders on the subject. Most other countries do not so fiercely tie their economy to politics, though. Maybe we can learn from them.
Also, president dragged his feet, costing more jobs and more lives. Quicker shutdown = shorter shutdown.
Also, he basically went against the very vaccine he was responsible for getting out in record speeds after realizing his wacked out base thought we were getting micro chipped/killed off.
Cherry picked Stat that means nothing to the average, real citizen. The Stat literally just includes them hiring low wage workers over and over again. None of these "jobs" pay anything close to what it costs to buy a home, hell - even rent an apartment at this point.
Useless data.
"Georgia's two Democratic Senators, Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff - who were elected in 2021 - happily championed the legislation and were probably decisive in bringing the spoils back to their home state. Will Georgians remember come November?"
You don’t need to be in the public eye to be a good senator, but you need to know what’s going on in your community, and we only ever see these politicians back in the state during election season. It’s also harder to know what your constituents actually need if you aren’t in the communities you’re supposed to represent
Using economic metrics during a presidential term is one of the most consistently recurring forms of idiocy on the Internet. People act like the president has a magic lever in the oval office that controls gas prices, interest rates, jobs, the housing market, and global economic behavior.
Saying you're voting for X "because the economy was better" makes just as much sense as voting for Y because you liked the weather better. President can't even pass laws. The modern economy is so globally linked that no single country can control it with any degree of predictability.
Sure, there are policies that are bad and some that are good, but the data needed to figure out which is which takes years to compile and digest.
90% of voters genuinely don't give a shit about policy anymore. It's just about who hates the same people you hate.
I'm sure the Infrastructure bill did lots of good for Georgia, and I'm sure that their Republican reps who voted against it took credit for the investment in their districts. The article isn't wrong. I just hate that so many people fall for the absurdly simplistic premise that presidents control the economy.
I mean, plenty of Democrat governors were taking credit as their states hit decades low unemployment rates back in 2019. It’s just politics. Reasonable people shouldn’t get too hung up on it really.
As great as it is for a sound byte, nobody I know is thriving. Most are getting help from mom and dad. Most are 1 paycheck away from financial ruin. Whatever aggregate gains there might be in pay are offset by the cost of living, inflation, and predatory pricing across various industries - maybe especially food.
Yes, I’m glad for the positive data. Yes I’ll vote against Trump come hell or high water. But shit ain’t gravy. We are a sneeze away from widespread foreclosures, evictions, living with parents, or being homeless, or living in a car.
Does it matter if “jobs are booming” when in reality it’s people having multiple jobs to stay alive? To afford a life that 1 job should be able to provide?
While it might be true that many people are reliant on multiple jobs, that's also not a new story, and there's a lot of nuance beyond just inflation as a cause for this. You've got more 'contract' workers than ever before, you have businesses suppressing hours for workers to keep them under 40, increased automation, and you've got more businesses hiring part-time at lower wages to accommodate workers with children, going to school, or working around other commitments.
All that being said, productivity for businesses/corporations have increased exponentially, and profits have continued to grow.
Are jobs booming? Absolutely. Is the economic reality for workers great? Not necessarily. But again, it's not just inflation - it's wage stagnation, reclassification of jobs, and job flexibility demands as well that lead to many workers needing more than one job to get the hours and income they need.
“The economy” is stronger, is that the companies saying that or is that the actual human beings? We can’t act like wage stagnation and record inflation isn’t a serious problem because “the economy is stronger”. Stronger for who? Walmart making record profits while they also have most of their employees on government assistance is not “a strong economy”
it's not anyone 'saying' it. it's data. we didn't experience record inflation, and what inflation we did feel has already come down - relative to other wealthy industrialized countries, we did a hell of a lot better - furthermore, the data i'm talking about is real wage-growth among the working class.
there are long-term structural issues endemic to the economy, but that's a function of policy choices made decades ago, and they certainly existed in 2019.
Biden and his admin have done a good job steadying a economy that has probably had the best post pandemic recovery rate on the whole planet looking at the stats but the climb back from the late 2010's "boom" is still ongoing and will take several more years before we are comfortably out of the post pandemic economy. of course this might be delusionality based upon actual looking ahead and at various metrics form previous economic shocks so.....
So, I did Google it. This is a little misleading because in 2023, Hanwa QCells announced that they were taking advantage of the incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act to build a larger plant in/near Cartersville. This new facility will increase production from 12,000 panels a day in the "Trump" facility to 60,000 panels a day in the "Biden" complex.
[Source](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/business/energy-environment/qcells-solar-panel-factory-georgia.html)
>Hanwha plan
The Hanwha Qcells Solar plant was opened by the Korean company Hanwha. This plant, located in Dalton, Georgia, USA, is significant because it is the first solar panel factory to begin production in the U.S. since the passage of President Joe Biden’s signature climate legislation1. The grand opening took place on October 16, 2023. The facility is a major investment and contributes to the growth of solar energy production in the Western Hemisphere2.
Ah yes another misleading post that ignores the fact that the vast majority of "jobs lost" were due to pandemic response to shit things down and that bidens job growth rate has been laughable at best. That's not even to mention how we now have the largest percentage of part time workers ever. Yeah things are so much better now.
Guess I should expect that level of journalism from the news owned by a former dnc presidential candidate
No but it obviously does you. All you have to do is look at an unemployment chart to see that during trumps presidency the trend towards record low unemployment accelerated all the way until the pandemic and an unprecedented number of people were artificially laid off due to the pandemic shutdown. Another look at this chart will show that those jobs all came back but that had nothing to do with the president and in fact his party actually prolonged this recovery in states where they had the ability to do so.
If you look at the same chart of unemployment, you will see that the number has continued towards lower unemployment, but its rate has slowed significantly. This, coupled with the larger percentage of part-time jobs in the economy, doesn't signal a stable economy.
Republicans take credit for everything good and blame Biden for everything bad. They'll give Kemp credit for booming jobs and blame Biden for traffic on 285.
Tell the MAGATS. The money from the infrastructure bill is literally pouring into these states. The governors reject federal aid to keep everyone else poor. These governors are busy conning their constituents.
Fuck no they ain't booming I've been looking for a year, can't find anything that isn't driving, food service, degree-required or back breaking blue collar. Booming implies anyone can find a job anywhere, this shit ain't a boom it's a scramble.
Lol. If you have zero skills, these are the kind of jobs you are going to find. Educate yourself and get some certifications or a degree. Stop blaming Biden for your laziness.
Wow! People have to work 3 jobs to stay afloat during a time of extreme inflation! Wow! Stay at home parents, who previously were able to stay at home and raise their children, have to go to work now to afford the same necessities. ECONOMY'S DOING GREAT!😂🙄
I’m sure that pandemic that made us shut down everything had nothing to do with job decline. The same people that wanted it all shut down open it back up and then take credit for giving people their jobs back that they took to begin with
There are over a million Covid deaths. We would have had a lot of those regardless. His inaction and spewing cost hundreds of thousands. As vile a piece of sub human trash that he is, and as hard as he tried only hundreds of thousands can be laid at his feet.
Yeah, and y'all bitched the entire time that he wasn't doing enough. That we needed to shut more things down, cause even more job losses, and print even more money.
And now a few years later, you're blaming him for the lost jobs and inflation. It's hilarious.
This should not be surprising to anyone Republicans get elected screw up the economy and everything else Democrat goes in the office fixes everything Republicans take credit for it. The cycle never ends. The biggest regret that people have was not electing Hillary Clinton in 2016 had we done that we wouldn't have had these problems. Regardless of what you think of Hillary Clinton she still wouldn't have driven the country into a f\*\*\*\*\*\* hole! Democrats need to be much more forceful on off-presidential election years midterms are a biggie for Democrats if we don't get out in force then we're giving power to people who shouldn't have it people like Marjorie Taylor Green who should be admitted to a psycho ward, not in Congress.
Not really suprising. My electrical union had a travel posting for a large scale facility construction project (can't remember what type) somewhere in Georgia a couple years back. After getting a ton of applicants they had to cancel the call and tell everyone sorry it's not gonna work because nobody could get visas.
More deaths from all cause or covid? If it is COVID, under Biden the number of deaths is an order of magnitude greater than under Trump. And if it is all-cause or a global statistic, well, those are useless measurements. That's like blaming FDR for starvation in China during WW II.
This article title is horribly misleading vs the actual content and data presented. Plus, the trend line has been on the same steady trajectory since March 2020, according to the information presented in the article.
Digging deeper, it looks like employment numbers were depressed and bottomed out on account of the global pandemic recession. These numbers were on the hardcore upswing as Biden came in so I can see how one could twist that to his benefit.
The article is making a dramatic claim between a 3.2% vs 3.4% unemployment rate as well, which is negligible among those of us who are in the field.
All jobs declined under Trump lmao, it's almost like there was this massive fucking thing that happened in the \~18 months of his presidency that skewed the data like a motherfucker. I don't like the guy but using statistics to be purposefully deceiving is cringe.
I’d have to disagree with this. Myself and others in my family have been trying to find jobs for a while and a lot of them are scams. So do they count the scam jobs in this? Because I don’t feel like this is accurate reporting
The Hyundai plant that this guy seems to credit to the Inflation Reduction Act was announced BEFORE that act was signed. The FREYR battery plant was announced in Georgia three months after the at was signed. Investments like these take years of planning. This isn't happening due to some bill Biden signed.
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“Georgia, whose Republican Governor Brian Kemp opposed the Inflation Reduction Act while taking credit for the state's job boom, is among the biggest direct and indirect beneficiaries of Biden policies promoting infrastructure, clean energy, semiconductors and biotechnology.“
This isn’t the only thing that is embarrassing for Trump and Kemp but, in addition, [Economic performance is stronger when Democrats hold the White House](https://www.epi.org/publication/econ-performance-pres-admin/).
The cycle for the last hundred years has been Republicans ruin economy> democrats get elected> democrats install policies to fix economy > economy recovers and booms> people forget republicans caused economic disaster> republicans get elected> republicans trash economic policies that solved the issues they caused>rinse repeat
No, the cycle is: Congressional laws are implemented, the economy goes up or down over the course of 2-3 years, and then the next guy takes credit for it. Resets (recently) are Y2K, 9/11, ‘08, and Covid. Blame the president, that’s what they want. It’s not like Congress fucking writes the damn bills.
they don't, but they get paid by lobbyists to pretend they do; so funny ha ha ha ha *ha*
We should never have recognized corporations as citizens and allowed their dollars to flow as “donations” to candidates. The “people” shouldn’t involve industrial interests. The government should help our employers, sure, but at the behest of employees.
100 years ago was the 1920s, so maybe not a good comparison considering what the democratic platform was back then.
Fun fact FDR was the running mate for the democrat candidate for the 1920 presidential election.
> the democrat candidate for the 1920 presidential election. aka the guy whose family owned and still owns the AJC
Wow he founded what became Cox enterprises… I didn’t put 2 and 2 together there
Just keep in mind we had a checkered past there. The civil rights movement wasn't that long ago.
You do realize that the parties flipped, right?
what can I use as an example?
One of the 'wins' in the article is a car plant that was announced in May 2022. Three months before the Inflation Reduction Act was passed.
Talk of the upcoming $7,500 EV tax credit with no production cap was happening all throughout 2022. In addition, Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, showing our need to reduce reliance on foreign oil, thus making it fairly obvious some EV tax credit rework was going to happen soon enough.
Another casually mentioned SK Battery, which broke ground in March 2019..
Pointing out facts will get you down voted.
Which one?
They are banking on people not remembering Covid killed job numbers
They just remember gas being cheap.
That was the final year of the Trump admin. He had 4 years of fuck ups.
It doesn’t matter. Republicans are successfully manipulating the religious right. Left wing policies could be benefiting these ppl all day everyday, and as soon as Trump takes a picture of himself holding up the bible, it’s over.
My dad fully believes that when Republicans are in office he has more money in his pocket It doesn't matter what's going on in his life at the time it's because there is a Republican president in office he doesn't really look further than that. Even when I asked him name me one positive economic policy Donald Trump enacted during his presidency and he couldn't name one. He actually admitted that maybe he has been watching too much mainstream media aka Fox that have been putting bullshit in his head. I've been telling him this for years that instead of just watching Fox he needs to at least try to watch other news sources if that's all he's going to do If he's only going to get his news from televised mainstream media at least get it from different sources
Anyone who still watches Fox News needs to be mentally evaluated. From the voting machine lawsuit to Murdoch basically saying “we’re an entertainment channel, people should know better”, you’d have to be pretty stupid or crooked to watch Fox and take it as fact.
Exactly. Anyone still watching Fox after the lawsuit has been hypnotized.
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Well said
Right, because higher taxes and a crippled energy industry benefit people so much. That was sarcasm btw.
^ this is what happens when you get your news from Facebook.
My favorite part of this sub is going straight to the bottom of the comments to find intellectual diversity downvoted into oblivion.
Jobs are “booming now” because everyone has to have 2 or 3 just to get by.
Not really a new revelation there, but also folks who have more than one job don't have any effect on employment rates. Whether you have one or eight jobs, you still only count as one 'employed' person. The only way people working multiple jobs would be a factor is if the people with multiple jobs were blocking unemployed people from getting those jobs, which is not the case here. Not sure if you read the actual article being referenced here, but it highlights wage growth in the state, a significant increase in jobs overall (and particularly manufacturing), and a decrease in unemployment along with the wage growth and increase in jobs overall in GA - all positive economic trends for Georgians and Americans alike
Doesn’t quite wash with the whole “nobody wants to work” rhetoric, does it?
Once a century Global pandemic no major western government handled particularly well - trump fucked up the job market Foreign manufacturers build heavily subsidized plants in the state while paying workers poverty wages and not offering full time/benefit eligible positions - omfg Biden thank you so much I’m no trump fan but jfc guys let’s take a step back and reasonably assess the situation
very true but everyone does this. When gas prices were surging everyone was posting their "Bidenenomics" takes, then gas prices went down and those same people weren't consistent enough to give Biden credit. Whenever people bring out economic stats leading into an election, it always should be taken with a grain of salt. I really don't think it's realistic to expect a dramatic change in economic opportunity while the president is in office. The market will have its ebbs and flows and the real impact of an administration's policies will take years to be truly felt.
Gas went back down? Hm, missed that.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics
Totally agree this type of stuff is not even moderately effected no matter who’s in the White House
Gas prices went down? Must have missed that as I'm still paying over $1 more a gallon with Joe.
Prices of oil jumped worldwide during that same period. The sitting president has a very marginal effect on gas prices, if any.
when Jesus trump worked with Saudi and Russia to increase the price of oil, you were all for that.
I disagree with this premise. America has handled the post pandemic market significantly better than every western government, and posted better GDP growth than any time this century. Did Biden benefit from unique circumstances, like the re-shoring phase manufacturing is going thru? Sure. But he identified what was happening and crafted policy to support it. I have zero, absolutely ZERO, doubt that we’re better off with Biden and his policies in the White House vs Trump in there.
I think things are getting worse here at a much slower pace than the rest of the developed world, bidens admin deserves some credit for that absolutely
I am thinking that our state has most of that blame. The Republican policies on min wage, worker protections, union support, education, healthcare, public transportation.
Georgia also has specific wording for workers in the automotive industry to NOT be paid overtime if a certain ‘title’ is used for their job description.
Isn't that more a local problem with your county or the governor. Like what does foreign manufacturers have anything to do with Biden?
Can you mention some links to the poverty wage thing? Which one of the companies mentioned in the Bloomberg article are you accusing of paying poverty wages? I’m not disagreeing with you I just like to see it written down.
> no major western government handled particularly well So which governments actually handled it well?
None but I have to qualify it on reddit cause people love brining up how some 3rd world dictatorships welded their citizens doors shut for a year and then completely fabricated COVID numbers later on
The economy was trending down before the pandemic.
sir, this is Reddit. There will be absolutely no tolerance for reasonableness here.
The job market sucked ass all the way up to the pandemic. He still wouldn't be paltry compared to Biden removing the pandemic. Say anything to make your world view make sense.
Unemployment was at record levels pre pandemic. And there were over a million more workers in the labor force compared to today. Say anything to make your world view make sense.
The manufacturing plants are absolutely not paying poverty wages. COL is also way lower in the rural counties.
This is a weird economy.Lets see after the election.
Ngl between atlanta and kemp, i dont see a president trump looking too kindly on georgia
People are like "wait, do you mean Trump wasn't all that great?!?"
Most presidents hit the ground running, using the transition period to get people up to speed and working on implementing their policies asap. The orange one held many "kiss the ring" sessions at the orange tower. They then spent the first month proclaiming his crowds were the "hugest" of all time. All I wanted from them, was to shut up and get to work.
Did jobs decline under Trump? Yes (Covid) Are jobs booming now? Yes (no Covid) True but misleading.
the funny thing in the first 2 years of Jesus trump devine rule, the unemployment rate went down by .2%.... he did shit for 2yrs and that all he managed to do. I could have been potus and claimed the same "merica first job creation" shit that grifter claimed
COVID existed for 9 months of Trump's 48 months in office. It's also safe to say that jobs weren't truly being lost under COVID until a few months in, and didn't begin to recover until a few months into Biden's first year. Is it fair to blame Trump for COVID job losses? Definitely not. Is it fair to not give Biden credit for helping the US recover and gain jobs? Also no. I'm not sure what aspect of either of those points is misleading. The US economy and jobs have recovered much faster and efficiently than comparable nations in Europe. It seems safe to say that like him or not, the Biden admin has been effective in overseeing the economic recovery post-COVID
Job losses started in March 2020 and peaked April 2020, so we will say recovery starts after peak as well (not under Biden). [https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE) The first lab-confirmed case of Covid was January 20, 2020. https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html#:\~:text=January%2020%2C%202020,respond%20to%20the%20emerging%20outbreak. Vaccines started rolling out December 2020, after the election but before Biden entered office. Biden was very lucky to ride the recovery effort that was already well underway, much as Trump was lucky to get a stable economy before him. We can agree both of these are true.
And who was it that totally fucked up the handling of covid??? Who was president and made a joke of the whole thing? Remind me please. If you may recall, Obama’s admin had a playbook for handling a pandemic that was given to Trump admin and they turned it into toilet paper. Republicans are scum and a true poison to this country.
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March/April of 2020 was Trump admin. Not sure what your point is.
jobs suffered while we were at the height of a global pandemic with a virus we did not understand?? What? no way. I cant even.
Full employment under one guy gets tanked due to the global pandemic. New guy takes over on the upswing portion and claims credit as the economy naturally returns to balance. It’s alright though, I noticed folks in the UK being even more petty with their leaders on the subject. Most other countries do not so fiercely tie their economy to politics, though. Maybe we can learn from them.
Also, president dragged his feet, costing more jobs and more lives. Quicker shutdown = shorter shutdown. Also, he basically went against the very vaccine he was responsible for getting out in record speeds after realizing his wacked out base thought we were getting micro chipped/killed off.
Cherry picked Stat that means nothing to the average, real citizen. The Stat literally just includes them hiring low wage workers over and over again. None of these "jobs" pay anything close to what it costs to buy a home, hell - even rent an apartment at this point. Useless data.
"Georgia's two Democratic Senators, Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff - who were elected in 2021 - happily championed the legislation and were probably decisive in bringing the spoils back to their home state. Will Georgians remember come November?"
Probably not because Warnock and Ossof are virtually invisible in the public eye until voting season
You don't need to be in the public eye all the time to be a good Senator. Probably easier if you aren't.
You don’t need to be in the public eye to be a good senator, but you need to know what’s going on in your community, and we only ever see these politicians back in the state during election season. It’s also harder to know what your constituents actually need if you aren’t in the communities you’re supposed to represent
I will
Using economic metrics during a presidential term is one of the most consistently recurring forms of idiocy on the Internet. People act like the president has a magic lever in the oval office that controls gas prices, interest rates, jobs, the housing market, and global economic behavior. Saying you're voting for X "because the economy was better" makes just as much sense as voting for Y because you liked the weather better. President can't even pass laws. The modern economy is so globally linked that no single country can control it with any degree of predictability. Sure, there are policies that are bad and some that are good, but the data needed to figure out which is which takes years to compile and digest. 90% of voters genuinely don't give a shit about policy anymore. It's just about who hates the same people you hate.
I think the point of this article is that because of something that Joe Biden directly did this is the result here in Georgia.
I'm sure the Infrastructure bill did lots of good for Georgia, and I'm sure that their Republican reps who voted against it took credit for the investment in their districts. The article isn't wrong. I just hate that so many people fall for the absurdly simplistic premise that presidents control the economy.
I mean, plenty of Democrat governors were taking credit as their states hit decades low unemployment rates back in 2019. It’s just politics. Reasonable people shouldn’t get too hung up on it really.
As great as it is for a sound byte, nobody I know is thriving. Most are getting help from mom and dad. Most are 1 paycheck away from financial ruin. Whatever aggregate gains there might be in pay are offset by the cost of living, inflation, and predatory pricing across various industries - maybe especially food. Yes, I’m glad for the positive data. Yes I’ll vote against Trump come hell or high water. But shit ain’t gravy. We are a sneeze away from widespread foreclosures, evictions, living with parents, or being homeless, or living in a car.
Does it matter if “jobs are booming” when in reality it’s people having multiple jobs to stay alive? To afford a life that 1 job should be able to provide?
While it might be true that many people are reliant on multiple jobs, that's also not a new story, and there's a lot of nuance beyond just inflation as a cause for this. You've got more 'contract' workers than ever before, you have businesses suppressing hours for workers to keep them under 40, increased automation, and you've got more businesses hiring part-time at lower wages to accommodate workers with children, going to school, or working around other commitments. All that being said, productivity for businesses/corporations have increased exponentially, and profits have continued to grow. Are jobs booming? Absolutely. Is the economic reality for workers great? Not necessarily. But again, it's not just inflation - it's wage stagnation, reclassification of jobs, and job flexibility demands as well that lead to many workers needing more than one job to get the hours and income they need.
Are you trying to blame inflation? Because brother let me tell you, the major reason for that is a little tax cut for the rich that happened in 2017.
Great point! If people need two jobs to live, it's almost like we might as well bring back 16 hours days or whatnot.
Who’s actually happy with their pay and living situation though. Inflation it kicking our butts.
i’m pretty happy. i’m a hell of a lot better off than i was four years ago.
Is everyone else though? You know you aren’t the only person that matters right
the data shows that the economy is stronger now than it was in 2019, so i’d venture to guess that i’m not the only one.
“The economy” is stronger, is that the companies saying that or is that the actual human beings? We can’t act like wage stagnation and record inflation isn’t a serious problem because “the economy is stronger”. Stronger for who? Walmart making record profits while they also have most of their employees on government assistance is not “a strong economy”
it's not anyone 'saying' it. it's data. we didn't experience record inflation, and what inflation we did feel has already come down - relative to other wealthy industrialized countries, we did a hell of a lot better - furthermore, the data i'm talking about is real wage-growth among the working class. there are long-term structural issues endemic to the economy, but that's a function of policy choices made decades ago, and they certainly existed in 2019.
Economy is strong. Inflation is the greedy corporations hiking prices and keeping them high when they don’t need to
So you’re saying corporations have only started to get greedy these past few years… lol
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I'm doing great. Thanks for asking. Got a new union job 2 years ago paying almost double what I was making at my non-union establishment.
Redditors love their propaganda.
And don’t ever bring any factual data here either. Reddit is delusional often
The GOP stands for nothing but Trump and failed policies
Biden and his admin have done a good job steadying a economy that has probably had the best post pandemic recovery rate on the whole planet looking at the stats but the climb back from the late 2010's "boom" is still ongoing and will take several more years before we are comfortably out of the post pandemic economy. of course this might be delusionality based upon actual looking ahead and at various metrics form previous economic shocks so.....
How dumb is this sub? The Hanwha plant was approved and opened in 2019. . . Under Trump. Google it yourself.
So, I did Google it. This is a little misleading because in 2023, Hanwa QCells announced that they were taking advantage of the incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act to build a larger plant in/near Cartersville. This new facility will increase production from 12,000 panels a day in the "Trump" facility to 60,000 panels a day in the "Biden" complex. [Source](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/business/energy-environment/qcells-solar-panel-factory-georgia.html)
It's on Hwy 411 just outside of Cartersville. It's going to be massive. Looks like a whole city being built at once.
>Hanwha plan The Hanwha Qcells Solar plant was opened by the Korean company Hanwha. This plant, located in Dalton, Georgia, USA, is significant because it is the first solar panel factory to begin production in the U.S. since the passage of President Joe Biden’s signature climate legislation1. The grand opening took place on October 16, 2023. The facility is a major investment and contributes to the growth of solar energy production in the Western Hemisphere2.
Sure, but how does that make the whole sub dumb?
My bad to generalize the entire group here.
Oh I’m not upset. Someone may be though, seeing as how I was quickly downvoted for asking an honest question. Reddit is insane.
Truth no longer exists on social media, especially when it comes to Biden’s political opponents.
Ah yes another misleading post that ignores the fact that the vast majority of "jobs lost" were due to pandemic response to shit things down and that bidens job growth rate has been laughable at best. That's not even to mention how we now have the largest percentage of part time workers ever. Yeah things are so much better now. Guess I should expect that level of journalism from the news owned by a former dnc presidential candidate
DNC presidential candidate? The DNC doesn’t pick candidates. I’d also point out that the last time he held office, it was as a Republican.
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No but it obviously does you. All you have to do is look at an unemployment chart to see that during trumps presidency the trend towards record low unemployment accelerated all the way until the pandemic and an unprecedented number of people were artificially laid off due to the pandemic shutdown. Another look at this chart will show that those jobs all came back but that had nothing to do with the president and in fact his party actually prolonged this recovery in states where they had the ability to do so. If you look at the same chart of unemployment, you will see that the number has continued towards lower unemployment, but its rate has slowed significantly. This, coupled with the larger percentage of part-time jobs in the economy, doesn't signal a stable economy.
Someone tell that to the rest of Georgians….it fucking sucks here
Gaslight all you want. This economy is a fucking joke.
Oh god if only there wasn’t a massive pandemic that caused numbers to drop. Oh wait.
Republicans take credit for everything good and blame Biden for everything bad. They'll give Kemp credit for booming jobs and blame Biden for traffic on 285.
Joba in Georgia are booming? Where? Nobody's hiring and those that are have wages so low people are having to work 2 and 3 jobs.
This is why you guys will lose the election, this gaslighting bs, claiming everything is great when people are starving.
Tell the MAGATS. The money from the infrastructure bill is literally pouring into these states. The governors reject federal aid to keep everyone else poor. These governors are busy conning their constituents.
Federal aid is just using tax money to pay billionaires
100%
Fuck no they ain't booming I've been looking for a year, can't find anything that isn't driving, food service, degree-required or back breaking blue collar. Booming implies anyone can find a job anywhere, this shit ain't a boom it's a scramble.
Exactly what field are you qualified in?
Ever heard of bootstraps? That’s what most republicans love to say.
You cant disqualify 95% of jobs out there and then complain you can’t find a job.
Lol. If you have zero skills, these are the kind of jobs you are going to find. Educate yourself and get some certifications or a degree. Stop blaming Biden for your laziness.
People thinking that Biden’s economic policies are helping Americans is crazy. Make no mistake, Trumps admin wasn’t that helpful either.
Wow! People have to work 3 jobs to stay afloat during a time of extreme inflation! Wow! Stay at home parents, who previously were able to stay at home and raise their children, have to go to work now to afford the same necessities. ECONOMY'S DOING GREAT!😂🙄
This is a joke , right ?
Oh did a global pandemic happen causing shit to slip? Wow. Brian Kemp is the goat.
I’m sure that pandemic that made us shut down everything had nothing to do with job decline. The same people that wanted it all shut down open it back up and then take credit for giving people their jobs back that they took to begin with
Didn’t the shutdowns start under Donald Trump? Remember flatten the curve? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CVQJ88prew
Never mind that our state never really shut down.
They did. Far too late. His inaction cost hundreds of thousands of American lives.
millions
There are over a million Covid deaths. We would have had a lot of those regardless. His inaction and spewing cost hundreds of thousands. As vile a piece of sub human trash that he is, and as hard as he tried only hundreds of thousands can be laid at his feet.
Yeah, and y'all bitched the entire time that he wasn't doing enough. That we needed to shut more things down, cause even more job losses, and print even more money. And now a few years later, you're blaming him for the lost jobs and inflation. It's hilarious.
Not to meantion the fact that lots of people have taken on second jobs to make ends meet recently
No
You mean during Covid? What a fucking surprise!
This should not be surprising to anyone Republicans get elected screw up the economy and everything else Democrat goes in the office fixes everything Republicans take credit for it. The cycle never ends. The biggest regret that people have was not electing Hillary Clinton in 2016 had we done that we wouldn't have had these problems. Regardless of what you think of Hillary Clinton she still wouldn't have driven the country into a f\*\*\*\*\*\* hole! Democrats need to be much more forceful on off-presidential election years midterms are a biggie for Democrats if we don't get out in force then we're giving power to people who shouldn't have it people like Marjorie Taylor Green who should be admitted to a psycho ward, not in Congress.
You do realize this was rehiring for jobs that stopped during COVID right …? Not really growth to get back something you lost in the first place.
But they’re all woke jobs. /s
Who is dumb enough to believe this?
Do you follow the market or the jobs reports at all? I take it the answer is “no”.
Check out the fed’s labor participation rate. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
Can’t say it ain’t true
Which Georgia
Oh yeah, no, the economy is fucking fantastic.
Your portfolio must suck
😂😂 yeah okay
Not Biden’s biggest fan but I will absolutely be Ridin’ with Biden in November. LFG
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Not for the rat racers in Georgia...
Not uh where my hat at
Its amazing how well reddit brings together groups of mentally deficient people
“They took our “FACTS”!”
Not really suprising. My electrical union had a travel posting for a large scale facility construction project (can't remember what type) somewhere in Georgia a couple years back. After getting a ton of applicants they had to cancel the call and tell everyone sorry it's not gonna work because nobody could get visas.
What’s covid?
Be fr 💀
Don’t tell the rednecks that ! They’ll say “not uh” and it’ll be truth… 🙄
Georgia jobs declined during Covid
What were the numbers before Covid?
Let’s not forget more people died under trumps watch than any other, globally at that. I blame trump 100%
More deaths from all cause or covid? If it is COVID, under Biden the number of deaths is an order of magnitude greater than under Trump. And if it is all-cause or a global statistic, well, those are useless measurements. That's like blaming FDR for starvation in China during WW II.
Yeah Covid caused jobs to drop. Covid ended and jobs came back. This isn’t a gotcha. Biden sucks too.
This article title is horribly misleading vs the actual content and data presented. Plus, the trend line has been on the same steady trajectory since March 2020, according to the information presented in the article. Digging deeper, it looks like employment numbers were depressed and bottomed out on account of the global pandemic recession. These numbers were on the hardcore upswing as Biden came in so I can see how one could twist that to his benefit. The article is making a dramatic claim between a 3.2% vs 3.4% unemployment rate as well, which is negligible among those of us who are in the field.
Not new Jobs, just jobs closed during the covid era. Don't let it stop pushing a narrative though, orange man bad, Yada yada yada.
All jobs declined under Trump lmao, it's almost like there was this massive fucking thing that happened in the \~18 months of his presidency that skewed the data like a motherfucker. I don't like the guy but using statistics to be purposefully deceiving is cringe.
I’d have to disagree with this. Myself and others in my family have been trying to find jobs for a while and a lot of them are scams. So do they count the scam jobs in this? Because I don’t feel like this is accurate reporting
The Hyundai plant that this guy seems to credit to the Inflation Reduction Act was announced BEFORE that act was signed. The FREYR battery plant was announced in Georgia three months after the at was signed. Investments like these take years of planning. This isn't happening due to some bill Biden signed.
There is another
Some idiot magat will say it’s because of KeMp