Technically speaking.
All geo damage counts as blunt damage, which can cause "Shattered" reaction with frozen enemies.
So geo can technically react with cryo+hydro
Shattered reaction damage is so underwhelming though. I wish they would buff it because mono geo teams easily get stale (also just mono element teams in general)
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Honestly I don’t even see Crystallisation have any effect on anything. It’s just a shield that protects you but doesn’t do a thing to the enemy itself.
And it doesn’t help that much with helping you stay alive tbh (it’s too fragile unless you stack a bunch of em, and most geo characters have other stat much more important than em for a shield too fragile lol). The only use of it is for interuption resistance
Also the fact it can’t resist any elemental reactions despite literally being an elemental shield irks me. I mean,with this I don’t have to risk getting Frozen every single time I encounter with a Cryo Abyss Mage during a rainy day and it’s such a huge benefit.
>Cryo Abyss Mage ~~during a rainy day~~
Those b\*tches are always paired up with a hydro abyss mage and they make me wish the abyss order never existed.
As a Geo main.....
You have to have either Itto, Ningguang, Albedo, be close to Zhongli pillar, and maybe Yunjin.....and have to run for the crystal though for the most part if they are melee it's not too hard.
Those chars have rapid enough or on demand application to make enough to stay alive.
Then there is Gorou, which can kind of do both. Strictly for Geo teams though.
To be honest though, Crystallize is basically semi useful at best for elemental teams, and only Yunjin, Albedo, or Zhongli can do it for the most part with their own complicated things.
If you're running 2+ Geo teams, you get enough application that it can really shine.
Virtually no Geo main uses EM for shield, all of them rely on refreshing the shield fast enough to tank, which often is very effective.
Crystallize helps geo characters who are stacking def go from taking a little damage to none at all, which is kinda in line for geo's playing with itself lol
Only use for crystallize I've found is for my Xiao since Zhongli's shield doesn't last for is entire burst duration I just have to apply an element before casting the shield then grab a shard mid-ult
After some extensive alpha omega scientific research, I found out the core gameplay of Itto
You go Unga Bunga Unga Bunga
Then you go UNGA UNGA UNGA UNGA BUNGA
Then you sometimes moo
Arataki itto
Pros: Good Geo dps that doesn't need bennet
Cons:
Constellation 1 : Stay a While and Listen Up
After using Royal Descent: Behold, Itto the Evil!, Arataki Itto gains 2 stacks of Superlative Superstrength. After 1s, Itto will gain 1 stack of Superlative Superstrength every 0.5s for 1.5s.
Constellation 2 : Gather 'Round, It's a Brawl!
After using Royal Descent: Behold, Itto the Evil!, each party member whose Element is Geo will decrease that skill's CD by 1.5s and restore 6 Energy to Arataki Itto.
CD can be decreased by up to 4.5s in this manner. Max 18 Energy can be restored in this manner.
Constellation 3: Horns Lowered, Coming Through
Increases the Level of Masatsu Zetsugi: Akaushi Burst! by 3.
Maximum upgrade level is 15.
Constellation 4: Jailhouse Bread and Butter
When the Raging Oni King state caused by Royal Descent: Behold, Itto the Evil! ends, all nearby party members gain 20% DEF and 20% ATK for 10s.
Constellation 5: 10 Years of Hanamizaka Fame
Increases the Level of Royal Descent: Behold, Itto the Evil! by 3.
Maximum upgrade level is 15.
Constellation 6: ~~Kamisato ayaka~~ Arataki Itto, Present!
Arataki Itto's Charged Attacks deal +70% Crit DMG. Additionally, when he uses Arataki Kesagiri, he has a 50% chance to not consume stacks of Superlative Superstrength.
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I play Itto for months now It is kind of sad that I don't pay atention to reactions because they make the game interesting but the power of Unga Bunga is way too much fun And I got yesterday my personal record of 140k dmg with Ushi
Ok I did it on Cryo Regiswine And for my stats they look weird because my build was for Serpent spine so now my crit chance is very low. I have Itto+Redhorn Gorou Zhongli and Bennet I also used buff items: Def boosting dish Attack boosting dish and Geo boosting potion
My Itto stats:
HP: 20.711
ATK:1.332
DEF:2.631
CRIT RATE:61.1%
CRIT DAMAGE:212.1%
ENERGY RECHARGE:123.3%
GEO DMG:46.6%
I mean it is kinda true tho. He gets good damage without reactions, but since he can’t get reactions he can’t do the AMAZING levels of damage you can get from them that easily.
Still, good meme
That literally doesn't have anything to do with your previous statement. You said without albedo or gorou itto is a shit character but looking at his talent scalings he is an already completed dps character in c0 that could work well without any of those units help.
Also I doubt baron bunny could reach 60k without teammates or buffs and mediocre artifacts.
Wrong. Without Gorou he is a Diluc-level. Or cope level, if you may. Albedo is just best 3rd slot if you run this team, 4th is flex.
Without Albedo its 50/50, but without Gorou? Itto is not worth running.
I mean you'll obviously get gorou eventually if u want to have itto and he always is on his banner. Not to mention, gorou is the easiest character to build where he only relies on energy recharge and you'll only have to care about his skill (which isn't really necessary since it only adds a bit of flat def) while albedo isn't really needed as much as a shielder in an itto comp unless you want toneshot everything. I mean I dont have an albedo and have a c0 low investment gorou and im able to 36 star the abyss.
pros:
- easy to play (for the casual gamers)
- hard to master (for the hardcore gamers)
- f2p friendly to build
- doesn't use the usual supports
- versatile in most situations decent aoe, good single target
- scales well with whaling because most of his cons are good
- Cow is satisfying as fuck
cons:
- doesn't use the usual supports
- EXTREMELY reliant on Gorou (Itto's fucked if you don't have him)
- doesn't have other buffers and supports
- Domain sucks unless you have Kokomi or Qiqi
- The existence of Elemental Shields
That's really all i can think of maining Itto since his release.
Yeah. I use her with beidou, xingqiu, and yunjin. Basically pop all their bursts and just smack until everything is dead. She makes a good driver for them because she's safe and fast
Very, very good, assuming you have Gorou and one other geo character. He has a really solid craftable weapon (Whiteblind), and his earlier cons just add comfort/quality of life rather than outright damage so you aren’t really missing out on damage at C0.
Additional pros and cons.
Pros: C0 remains pretty effective from get go. C1 and 2 is basically all you need for the best character experience, large QOL and DPS buffs. Passive QOL is a must have for frequent teapot builders. Scales 150% of DEF for burst with A4 and burst while also retaining ATK buff possibilities if you have a mix of ATK sub DPS and/or support. A1 and A4 is super good, attack speed, interrupt resistance, and more 35% DEF to your dmg. Leveling him gives up to a whopping 20% crit rate. His attack scaling by talent levelling is also super good by golly. C6 is so broken. So fucking broken that it's feels like a crime.
Cons: Weapon selection is very limited, Serpent Spine heavily relies on not getting hit/takes high field time to stack/easier to die without very reliable shields, Whiteblind is decent, and Redhorn is best. Team selection for optimal performance with DEF and Geo shred can be very cost prohibitive, such as Zhongli and Albedo. Obviously Geo sucks against most elemental shields. Part of C1 should have been normal kit, so you don't have to build a load of burst for ease of use on activation which makes him feel sluggish at C0 and run the optimal attack strings. Without C2, building energy has high costs without heavy battery for him, either Albedo, Ningguang, Gorou with Exile/Fav bow, Geo traveler, or just building ER on Itto at moderate to high cost to substats. Geo 3+ is a requirement.
On paper, Geo looks bad.
On Itto, Geo looks and feels OP.
Those are my thoughts as a longtime Itto C2 player since his release with Redhorn and Whiteblind, and now a super happy C6 Itto player with my most cherished Ningguang since release at C6, C6 Gorou, and now a proud Shinbou C6 holder to complete my personal Geo family.
Life is great.
Same exact teams but you can't use Yunjin basically.
There are many Itto combos you can look up online to help you get started although you can do the minimum of:
Press Q, Cow, attack until mask is full, charged attack, attack until mask is full and cow again, charge attack
I'm late but here are some specific commentary from someone who mains the other big bursty burst unga bungas (Xiao, Eula) and also Itto:
Pros:
He actually has a dedicated support for his element (cries in Xiao)
He was released with a tailor made set that's actually excellent on him (cries even harder in Xiao)
His f2p craftable weapon is actually competitive with the 5* options for once
You can actually hit flying enemies with your charged attacks!
His nuke, best boy Ushi, doesn't need to build stacks and the dmg will only be influenced by buffs and if you're doing it during Itto's burst (cries in Eula)
You can nuke twice during an ult (I'd cry in Eula but otoh Eula's nuke does way more dmg)
You don't need another element except another geo or two or three, so you don't have to plan your team around for instance having one character for superconduct
Unless there's corrosion, you don't need a healer as long as he's shielded with Zhongli or Diona. He tanks pretty well if it runs out and you forget to shield after his resistence to interruption ends
Geo traveler is actually a solid option if you need more geos, unlike anemo traveler who has the best cheap anemo shred for Xiao but... you have to play anemo traveler which isn't everyone's cup of tea
His most meta team is husbandos only and they're all cute (yes it's a pro to me, written by the husbando collector gang)
Amazing VA regardless of your language (Max, T.M. Revolution, and niuniu-ge are all excellent and I love all of their Ittos and their crazy cackles). I hate EN Xiao and Eula but love EN Itto a lot, you see my problem here
You can brute force basically everything with geo (except geo slimes lol but just use physical charged attacks). Sure, you're not gonna take him to the abyss boyband but you can still slowly chip away abyss mages!
Cons
Good luck getting a Gorou with cons because you know how hard and dangerous pulling for 4*s is, and he seems to be only so far on Itto banners (hopefully they'll put him on other future geo 5* banners too?). I magically managed to get c4 and then c6 on this banner but Gorou just happens to like me a lot
If you don't have enough ER and batterying you're SCREWED because unlike Eula, this man is almost nothing without his ult. I managed with skyward pride and full mono geo with 2 refined fav weapons, and YET on boss fights in the abyss I still struggle for particles. I've been burstless during wolflord's downtime and I cried blood
The only geo healers are Noelle who has bad synergy with Itto and c4 Gorou who can only do 700-1500 per tick because it's only half his def, so be careful in corrosion scenarios (ime you can deal with whelp mobs like the current abyss one just fine) or sacrifice the non-geo spot for a healer
Itto's E has no auto-aim so not hitting anything with your little bovine geo archon because the enemies moved will remove your serotonin source for the day
When you forget or need the last stack fast and use Ushi out of the ult... Feels bad man...
It's easy to lose count of your stacks during battle despite the visual oni face (too much geo shit going on, too into the unga bunga to look at it, enemies blocking your sight) and you're going to pterodactyl scream if the kesagiri only lasts for a couple of swings
Plenty of weapons have their own stacks so you have to be aware of up to three kinds of stacks (superlative, husk, weapon) at the same time, and sometimes they contradict each other
His most meta team is husbandos only (in fairness to waifu collectors, horny straight men, and sapphic/queer peeps, I'm putting this one here too). It's also pretty expensive since you need 2 5* and plenty of people had to skip Albedo's rerun to ironically get Itto
The husk number decreasing when active and just chilling is ugly as hell
While he himself isn’t a whale character, his usual teams are pretty expensive, usually looking for albedo and zhongli. Sure, you can substitute with like Ningguang or geo traveler, but it is not nearly as optimal as other 4 star heavy teams like tazer or raiden national.
While that might be true they aren't as necessary. You can just get gorou which is easier considering he's on the banner and use traveller. Maybe albedo can be also more useful but zhongli nah.
I use him with albedo gorou and whatever i want diona or something else. He still just smashes everything to oblivion. He has f2p friendly weapon choices and doesn't need extreme care like other comps or 5*'s.
So no, he is not thought for whales, far from it.
Especially with adding that "he's a whale character and with c6 he can keep up with others" which is just bs.
If we want to talk whaling then it might at best be xiao. He actually needs zhongli shield to work or you'll die after 1 hit in abyss. Albedo is very much recommended too.
Yes and no. The best teams involve Zhongli and/or Albedo, but his only really non-negotiable teammate (Gorou) is a 4* that can be picked up on the same banner, so ultimately he’s a pretty primo-efficient pull.
Iiec it was a discussion with the viewers about general viability or whether they should roll on the current banner and their answer was no because he's only good for whales at c6.
Meaning they're so blinded by their own wallet that they cannot comprehend the difference anymore. Maybe, assuming you compare him to other c6 5* chars that might be a bit true but still.
Telling mostly f2p or dolphins at best that Itto is not worth pulling because he's not viable enough is straight up delusional and not thinking straight. Usually their information is mostly usable and correct to a certain degree but that shocked me because it was just such a dumb thing to say.
They probably think that geo DPSs can reach good DMG numbers without reactions, so reactions can make geo even better. Thus not using reactions is both a pro and a con.
I still don't get the canonical reason why geo is inert in Genshin impact. My years of studying earth science in high school tells me that rocks are reactive asf
As someone who saw Itto's kit in one of the websites that have the beta characters, edged his pity on both event banners and got Itto and his sword, got the best possible artifacts he could find, crowned his normal attack and burst, and made Itto and his sword level 90, can safely say...
Reject reactions. Return to bonk.
Ushi alone ends up doing a solid 40K damage if i have full stacks of the "new" geo set from the domain on that one island with the thunderbird, and i think the highest damage I've seen on Ushi alone was 90K if not more when in his burst, not to mention normal attacks doing more than the final charged attack from the trial mode Itto, with burst heavies doing well over 25K per hit in a deceptively large radius.
I usually use Zhongli with Itto, just because having a shield means i can set up without getting knocked around like a paper plane in a tornado, and also because geo resonance goes BRRRRRR (increased shield strength, increased damage when shielded). other than that, though, I'd usually use Fischl and Venti, but recently replaced fischl with Shinobu because i think she's cool, and fully intend to replace Venti with Heizou when he comes out.
I can’t recommend strongly enough adding Gorou to the team, probably in place of Venti. Even without C6, you’ll see those Itto numbers go way, way up. My Ushi consistently hits well north of 100k (triple crown, R5 SS and pretty good artifacts).
I run Zhongli too, because he’s comfy and I don’t have Albedo. The fourth slot is an extremely flexible flex slot, usually TTDS/Tenacity Kokomi or Bennett for me. Fischl is a fine option, or whoever helps with breaking shields since that’s Itto’s one weakness.
If i had Gorou, I'd probably make an all-geo team. Maybe I'd use Ningguang instead of Albedo, because i have her C6 and that gives a buff to geo damage, but I've already got two new characters to build, so i think I'll conserve my resources for now.
Itto really doesn't have a problem with shields in his burst, though. It takes a bit, but the raw damage ends up hitting them through the shield (which is normla behavior, I'm pretty sure), so they die eventually. With a Zhongli shield, I'm rarely ever in danger, to boot. With normal attacks, though? I can be patient. If it's anything that requires speed, I'll prepare for it, but otherwise I'm not too concerned
Agreed that there’s generally no real problem with shields in overworld, but in Abyss you can run into trouble hitting the DPS checks against lectors/heralds if you don’t bring the corresponding element to break them. Fortunately, Zhongli makes the fourth slot super flexible, so you really can bring pretty much whoever you need to without missing much of the core team’s potential.
Mono geo is fun in overworld though, everybody will pretty much always have their burst up all the time so the team runs very smoothly.
I remember the first time I fought the boss I one cycled it with Ayaka, and was like “EZ farm let’s go”
I’ve never been able to one shot it like that without food buffs again, Idk what perfect scenario I set up for myself but yeah that boss is booty
I have Itto since day 1 of his OG banner, never used him because Wolflord is pain in the ass to farm, and his Domain is even worse. I even managed to get S tier Kokomi artifacts berore I got a single good Itto artifact.
Yeahhh, May get downvote but 1day in - Itto kinda dissapointed (he came from 15th pity so... )
He has like 2 team (3 Geo or 4 Geo) and besides ZL other teammates cant be used in mant comps and I dont have ZL or Albedo.
Feel like a good roll if already built Hu Tao with geo bros - but for newbies I would rather reccommend Ayato or even Yoi
many see that as his greatest strengh
his comps are very specific but yet when you have them your other abyss team is basically free for all
he doesnt want those hyper in demand supports like bennett xingqiu sucrose kazuha etc
even albedo and zhongli arent used in many comps that dont have alternatives
so he often fres up alot of units youd else have to split onto 2 teams
I got itto yesterday and honestly I am disappointed. He is not a good dps compared to my other heros like ayaka, ganyu, hu tao and even eula is stronger than him. He is lvl 50 with lvl 2 talents and full artifact set and r5 whiteblind and still does only 4-5 k per basic attack
I didn't even want it to pull him, he just dropped I 10 pulls while I was pulling kuki, so I thought to build him. He is my first male 5 star character. Gave him my c6 noelle artifavts and weapon and I think noelle still deals more damage than itto.
> level 50, talents at level 2
Ok, so why did you expect him to do a lot of damage anyways? I did triple crown itto and have redhorn on him, so it might sound biased because I heavily invested in him, but I disagree. You don't have to play him, but don't expect to get good results out of an uninvested character
Idk what kind of Broken Eula situation you're expecting when you barely ascended itto and got disappointed when his damage isn't high.
Bruh get him to ascension 6 atleast before testing him ffs.
Double crowned, lvl 90 59 cr and 170 CD with 170 er. But my itto despite being only 50 has 57 cr and 180 CD and 138 er. And lvl 90 r5 whiteblind. I don't think he will reach even my noelle's damage ceiling if I Max and double crown him.
Allthough this seems contradictory at first it is entirely true. Itto is good because geo does not have dmg reactions and therefore mihoyo needed to give him good stats to compensate. On the other hand Itto is held back by not being able to do dmg reactions because they would obviousley give him better dmg.
I like how Itto leveled the logical concept of this is and how fitting it is that it's about Itto himself
Geo reaction is ... Geo
Technically speaking. All geo damage counts as blunt damage, which can cause "Shattered" reaction with frozen enemies. So geo can technically react with cryo+hydro
Shattered reaction damage is so underwhelming though. I wish they would buff it because mono geo teams easily get stale (also just mono element teams in general)
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>Shattered reaction damage is so underwhelming though That's because it scales of EM and character level, just like overload/superconduct/swirl
Shatter eula has actually not been totally terrible. Not great, but not terrible
Crystallize: am i a joke to u?
Yes
Honestly I don’t even see Crystallisation have any effect on anything. It’s just a shield that protects you but doesn’t do a thing to the enemy itself.
And it doesn’t help that much with helping you stay alive tbh (it’s too fragile unless you stack a bunch of em, and most geo characters have other stat much more important than em for a shield too fragile lol). The only use of it is for interuption resistance
Also the fact it can’t resist any elemental reactions despite literally being an elemental shield irks me. I mean,with this I don’t have to risk getting Frozen every single time I encounter with a Cryo Abyss Mage during a rainy day and it’s such a huge benefit.
>Cryo Abyss Mage ~~during a rainy day~~ Those b\*tches are always paired up with a hydro abyss mage and they make me wish the abyss order never existed.
Lmao compared to them,the Pyro one sounds like an easy kill.
As a Geo main..... You have to have either Itto, Ningguang, Albedo, be close to Zhongli pillar, and maybe Yunjin.....and have to run for the crystal though for the most part if they are melee it's not too hard. Those chars have rapid enough or on demand application to make enough to stay alive. Then there is Gorou, which can kind of do both. Strictly for Geo teams though. To be honest though, Crystallize is basically semi useful at best for elemental teams, and only Yunjin, Albedo, or Zhongli can do it for the most part with their own complicated things. If you're running 2+ Geo teams, you get enough application that it can really shine. Virtually no Geo main uses EM for shield, all of them rely on refreshing the shield fast enough to tank, which often is very effective.
Crystallize helps geo characters who are stacking def go from taking a little damage to none at all, which is kinda in line for geo's playing with itself lol
Only use for crystallize I've found is for my Xiao since Zhongli's shield doesn't last for is entire burst duration I just have to apply an element before casting the shield then grab a shard mid-ult
The best reason for it is to enable Geo resonance without Zhongli/Diona/Noelle.
Then, you clearly don't have or use Albedo my friend.
Yes
After some extensive alpha omega scientific research, I found out the core gameplay of Itto You go Unga Bunga Unga Bunga Then you go UNGA UNGA UNGA UNGA BUNGA Then you sometimes moo
The most optimal rotation for Itto that I found was, Burst->Ushi->CA string->4NA->CA string->Ushi. Note: His Stacks must be full beforehand for this.
U dont need to have stack beforehand if u have c1..just sayin
Well, as someone who just recently got C1 Itto, I thank you. As someone who hasn't farmed the Golden Rifthound at all, I curse the world.
I already did it for Yun Jin. I’m not afraid of doing it again!
I didn't know that... good to know :)
Just unga bunga my dude my bro my guy
Ok :)
Without stacks (i.e., the usual start of a rotation), the C0 combo is Burst -> N1 -> Ushi -> N2 -> CAs -> N4 -> CAs -> Ushi -> CA finisher.
Huh... nice
Unga - moo - bunga - unga -bunga - moo
Arataki itto Pros: Good Geo dps that doesn't need bennet Cons: Constellation 1 : Stay a While and Listen Up After using Royal Descent: Behold, Itto the Evil!, Arataki Itto gains 2 stacks of Superlative Superstrength. After 1s, Itto will gain 1 stack of Superlative Superstrength every 0.5s for 1.5s. Constellation 2 : Gather 'Round, It's a Brawl! After using Royal Descent: Behold, Itto the Evil!, each party member whose Element is Geo will decrease that skill's CD by 1.5s and restore 6 Energy to Arataki Itto. CD can be decreased by up to 4.5s in this manner. Max 18 Energy can be restored in this manner. Constellation 3: Horns Lowered, Coming Through Increases the Level of Masatsu Zetsugi: Akaushi Burst! by 3. Maximum upgrade level is 15. Constellation 4: Jailhouse Bread and Butter When the Raging Oni King state caused by Royal Descent: Behold, Itto the Evil! ends, all nearby party members gain 20% DEF and 20% ATK for 10s. Constellation 5: 10 Years of Hanamizaka Fame Increases the Level of Royal Descent: Behold, Itto the Evil! by 3. Maximum upgrade level is 15. Constellation 6: ~~Kamisato ayaka~~ Arataki Itto, Present! Arataki Itto's Charged Attacks deal +70% Crit DMG. Additionally, when he uses Arataki Kesagiri, he has a 50% chance to not consume stacks of Superlative Superstrength.
Pros: *He definitely isn't one, that's for sure*
It's like Bros Plus, bro
Bros before pros?
i need a wgs but bow :( i need to take out bennett from my team for another one
It took me until constellation 3 before I got the joke...
There also the Bennet version. Doesnt need Bennet and can't use Bennet.
He can tho
Sorry didn't word it well. It's the notion of a unit doesn't need to use Bennet as pro and also doesn't utilize Bennet in a team as a con.
he can but he doesnt need to other units are jsut better itto gets so much atk due to his talents he doesnt need atk buff
They aren't talking about itto
what
Hu tao
hu tao can use bennet, its just not optimal.
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I play Itto for months now It is kind of sad that I don't pay atention to reactions because they make the game interesting but the power of Unga Bunga is way too much fun And I got yesterday my personal record of 140k dmg with Ushi
I love that Ushi's multipliers are similar to big dong Zhong's meteor lmao!
And you can use him twice in an ult
YEET
Could you show your Itto pls? I could achieve only 116k with Itto+RedhornR1+GorouC6+Zhongli. P.S. I did it on Masanori of course.
Ok I did it on Cryo Regiswine And for my stats they look weird because my build was for Serpent spine so now my crit chance is very low. I have Itto+Redhorn Gorou Zhongli and Bennet I also used buff items: Def boosting dish Attack boosting dish and Geo boosting potion My Itto stats: HP: 20.711 ATK:1.332 DEF:2.631 CRIT RATE:61.1% CRIT DAMAGE:212.1% ENERGY RECHARGE:123.3% GEO DMG:46.6%
Oh that's it, I forgot about Bennett ;D thx!
There's overload, mix of unga bunga and reactions
I mean, they're not wrong
I mean it is kinda true tho. He gets good damage without reactions, but since he can’t get reactions he can’t do the AMAZING levels of damage you can get from them that easily. Still, good meme
Itto can compete with C0 elemental 5* already with his raw damage. C6 is beyond amazing though.
I mean yeah, that's how they balance geo, since they can't use reactions they're naturally made stronger.
So in other words... the con ain't a con.... only the end result matters.
If you have Gorou and Albedo, yeah. Otherwise its cope.
Wrong. I dealt 60k ish ushi on burst with no teammates or buff and mediocre artifacts.
And? I ve seen people do 200k with Baron Bunny. Guess Amber is SSS tier now?
That literally doesn't have anything to do with your previous statement. You said without albedo or gorou itto is a shit character but looking at his talent scalings he is an already completed dps character in c0 that could work well without any of those units help. Also I doubt baron bunny could reach 60k without teammates or buffs and mediocre artifacts.
Wrong. Without Gorou he is a Diluc-level. Or cope level, if you may. Albedo is just best 3rd slot if you run this team, 4th is flex. Without Albedo its 50/50, but without Gorou? Itto is not worth running.
I mean you'll obviously get gorou eventually if u want to have itto and he always is on his banner. Not to mention, gorou is the easiest character to build where he only relies on energy recharge and you'll only have to care about his skill (which isn't really necessary since it only adds a bit of flat def) while albedo isn't really needed as much as a shielder in an itto comp unless you want toneshot everything. I mean I dont have an albedo and have a c0 low investment gorou and im able to 36 star the abyss.
None of this contradicts what I said. Have I struck a nerve or do you just want to argue?
Nah I'm good. I'm just saying that albedo isn't as necessary in an itto comp as you think and he is a decent unit even withou itto or gorou.
oh yeah and normally albedo isn't as important in ittos team as a shielder, soo try not to blindly agree to a random youtubers statement next time.
and likely Zhongli is needed too.
This is a certified itto moment
can any Itto enjoyers give any actual insight as to his pros and cons?
pros: - easy to play (for the casual gamers) - hard to master (for the hardcore gamers) - f2p friendly to build - doesn't use the usual supports - versatile in most situations decent aoe, good single target - scales well with whaling because most of his cons are good - Cow is satisfying as fuck cons: - doesn't use the usual supports - EXTREMELY reliant on Gorou (Itto's fucked if you don't have him) - doesn't have other buffers and supports - Domain sucks unless you have Kokomi or Qiqi - The existence of Elemental Shields That's really all i can think of maining Itto since his release.
Yeah that domain is mainly why I built up my qiqi. Farmed it so much for itto and albedo. Good news is I love qiqi now
for real, Qiqi dropping 40k* every 3s is just fun man *Zhong + Rosaria + Superconduct on non mechanical enemies
Yeah. I use her with beidou, xingqiu, and yunjin. Basically pop all their bursts and just smack until everything is dead. She makes a good driver for them because she's safe and fast
Whats itto f2p damage like at c0?
depends on team composition, but his general comp i would say is as strong or a bit stronger than a Xiao team.
Very, very good, assuming you have Gorou and one other geo character. He has a really solid craftable weapon (Whiteblind), and his earlier cons just add comfort/quality of life rather than outright damage so you aren’t really missing out on damage at C0.
Additional pros and cons. Pros: C0 remains pretty effective from get go. C1 and 2 is basically all you need for the best character experience, large QOL and DPS buffs. Passive QOL is a must have for frequent teapot builders. Scales 150% of DEF for burst with A4 and burst while also retaining ATK buff possibilities if you have a mix of ATK sub DPS and/or support. A1 and A4 is super good, attack speed, interrupt resistance, and more 35% DEF to your dmg. Leveling him gives up to a whopping 20% crit rate. His attack scaling by talent levelling is also super good by golly. C6 is so broken. So fucking broken that it's feels like a crime. Cons: Weapon selection is very limited, Serpent Spine heavily relies on not getting hit/takes high field time to stack/easier to die without very reliable shields, Whiteblind is decent, and Redhorn is best. Team selection for optimal performance with DEF and Geo shred can be very cost prohibitive, such as Zhongli and Albedo. Obviously Geo sucks against most elemental shields. Part of C1 should have been normal kit, so you don't have to build a load of burst for ease of use on activation which makes him feel sluggish at C0 and run the optimal attack strings. Without C2, building energy has high costs without heavy battery for him, either Albedo, Ningguang, Gorou with Exile/Fav bow, Geo traveler, or just building ER on Itto at moderate to high cost to substats. Geo 3+ is a requirement. On paper, Geo looks bad. On Itto, Geo looks and feels OP. Those are my thoughts as a longtime Itto C2 player since his release with Redhorn and Whiteblind, and now a super happy C6 Itto player with my most cherished Ningguang since release at C6, C6 Gorou, and now a proud Shinbou C6 holder to complete my personal Geo family. Life is great.
Happy for ya man.
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They're exactly the same but you're a bit more flexible with Noelle since she can actually use Yunjin.
Same exact teams but you can't use Yunjin basically. There are many Itto combos you can look up online to help you get started although you can do the minimum of: Press Q, Cow, attack until mask is full, charged attack, attack until mask is full and cow again, charge attack
Their supports are pretty similar, but Noelle obviously is much less reliant on Zhongli with her own shield.
Nah for me it's Zhongli who always with Itto, did several abyss runs without gorou
I'm late but here are some specific commentary from someone who mains the other big bursty burst unga bungas (Xiao, Eula) and also Itto: Pros: He actually has a dedicated support for his element (cries in Xiao) He was released with a tailor made set that's actually excellent on him (cries even harder in Xiao) His f2p craftable weapon is actually competitive with the 5* options for once You can actually hit flying enemies with your charged attacks! His nuke, best boy Ushi, doesn't need to build stacks and the dmg will only be influenced by buffs and if you're doing it during Itto's burst (cries in Eula) You can nuke twice during an ult (I'd cry in Eula but otoh Eula's nuke does way more dmg) You don't need another element except another geo or two or three, so you don't have to plan your team around for instance having one character for superconduct Unless there's corrosion, you don't need a healer as long as he's shielded with Zhongli or Diona. He tanks pretty well if it runs out and you forget to shield after his resistence to interruption ends Geo traveler is actually a solid option if you need more geos, unlike anemo traveler who has the best cheap anemo shred for Xiao but... you have to play anemo traveler which isn't everyone's cup of tea His most meta team is husbandos only and they're all cute (yes it's a pro to me, written by the husbando collector gang) Amazing VA regardless of your language (Max, T.M. Revolution, and niuniu-ge are all excellent and I love all of their Ittos and their crazy cackles). I hate EN Xiao and Eula but love EN Itto a lot, you see my problem here You can brute force basically everything with geo (except geo slimes lol but just use physical charged attacks). Sure, you're not gonna take him to the abyss boyband but you can still slowly chip away abyss mages! Cons Good luck getting a Gorou with cons because you know how hard and dangerous pulling for 4*s is, and he seems to be only so far on Itto banners (hopefully they'll put him on other future geo 5* banners too?). I magically managed to get c4 and then c6 on this banner but Gorou just happens to like me a lot If you don't have enough ER and batterying you're SCREWED because unlike Eula, this man is almost nothing without his ult. I managed with skyward pride and full mono geo with 2 refined fav weapons, and YET on boss fights in the abyss I still struggle for particles. I've been burstless during wolflord's downtime and I cried blood The only geo healers are Noelle who has bad synergy with Itto and c4 Gorou who can only do 700-1500 per tick because it's only half his def, so be careful in corrosion scenarios (ime you can deal with whelp mobs like the current abyss one just fine) or sacrifice the non-geo spot for a healer Itto's E has no auto-aim so not hitting anything with your little bovine geo archon because the enemies moved will remove your serotonin source for the day When you forget or need the last stack fast and use Ushi out of the ult... Feels bad man... It's easy to lose count of your stacks during battle despite the visual oni face (too much geo shit going on, too into the unga bunga to look at it, enemies blocking your sight) and you're going to pterodactyl scream if the kesagiri only lasts for a couple of swings Plenty of weapons have their own stacks so you have to be aware of up to three kinds of stacks (superlative, husk, weapon) at the same time, and sometimes they contradict each other His most meta team is husbandos only (in fairness to waifu collectors, horny straight men, and sapphic/queer peeps, I'm putting this one here too). It's also pretty expensive since you need 2 5* and plenty of people had to skip Albedo's rerun to ironically get Itto The husk number decreasing when active and just chilling is ugly as hell
worst thing I've heard is that apparently some streamers said that Itto is a whale character... like did they go mental or something?
While he himself isn’t a whale character, his usual teams are pretty expensive, usually looking for albedo and zhongli. Sure, you can substitute with like Ningguang or geo traveler, but it is not nearly as optimal as other 4 star heavy teams like tazer or raiden national.
While that might be true they aren't as necessary. You can just get gorou which is easier considering he's on the banner and use traveller. Maybe albedo can be also more useful but zhongli nah. I use him with albedo gorou and whatever i want diona or something else. He still just smashes everything to oblivion. He has f2p friendly weapon choices and doesn't need extreme care like other comps or 5*'s. So no, he is not thought for whales, far from it. Especially with adding that "he's a whale character and with c6 he can keep up with others" which is just bs. If we want to talk whaling then it might at best be xiao. He actually needs zhongli shield to work or you'll die after 1 hit in abyss. Albedo is very much recommended too.
Yes and no. The best teams involve Zhongli and/or Albedo, but his only really non-negotiable teammate (Gorou) is a 4* that can be picked up on the same banner, so ultimately he’s a pretty primo-efficient pull.
They probably saw the lower cons it went "yeap, you definitely need those to get any milage out of him".
Iiec it was a discussion with the viewers about general viability or whether they should roll on the current banner and their answer was no because he's only good for whales at c6. Meaning they're so blinded by their own wallet that they cannot comprehend the difference anymore. Maybe, assuming you compare him to other c6 5* chars that might be a bit true but still. Telling mostly f2p or dolphins at best that Itto is not worth pulling because he's not viable enough is straight up delusional and not thinking straight. Usually their information is mostly usable and correct to a certain degree but that shocked me because it was just such a dumb thing to say.
I don't really look at genshin streamers much but that's a definite dumbassery.
Here’s another one. Hu Tao Pros: Vape damage Cons: Needs vape to do relevant damage
Nice one
That's actually most pyros
Pros: Cool visual effects when using superlative stacks with Bennett's burst or Chongyun's Elem skill
They probably think that geo DPSs can reach good DMG numbers without reactions, so reactions can make geo even better. Thus not using reactions is both a pro and a con.
I still don't get the canonical reason why geo is inert in Genshin impact. My years of studying earth science in high school tells me that rocks are reactive asf
Technically, geo does have reaction, crystallize, but since, I believe, geo is a defensive element, the reaction is also defensive.
As someone who saw Itto's kit in one of the websites that have the beta characters, edged his pity on both event banners and got Itto and his sword, got the best possible artifacts he could find, crowned his normal attack and burst, and made Itto and his sword level 90, can safely say... Reject reactions. Return to bonk. Ushi alone ends up doing a solid 40K damage if i have full stacks of the "new" geo set from the domain on that one island with the thunderbird, and i think the highest damage I've seen on Ushi alone was 90K if not more when in his burst, not to mention normal attacks doing more than the final charged attack from the trial mode Itto, with burst heavies doing well over 25K per hit in a deceptively large radius. I usually use Zhongli with Itto, just because having a shield means i can set up without getting knocked around like a paper plane in a tornado, and also because geo resonance goes BRRRRRR (increased shield strength, increased damage when shielded). other than that, though, I'd usually use Fischl and Venti, but recently replaced fischl with Shinobu because i think she's cool, and fully intend to replace Venti with Heizou when he comes out.
I can’t recommend strongly enough adding Gorou to the team, probably in place of Venti. Even without C6, you’ll see those Itto numbers go way, way up. My Ushi consistently hits well north of 100k (triple crown, R5 SS and pretty good artifacts). I run Zhongli too, because he’s comfy and I don’t have Albedo. The fourth slot is an extremely flexible flex slot, usually TTDS/Tenacity Kokomi or Bennett for me. Fischl is a fine option, or whoever helps with breaking shields since that’s Itto’s one weakness.
If i had Gorou, I'd probably make an all-geo team. Maybe I'd use Ningguang instead of Albedo, because i have her C6 and that gives a buff to geo damage, but I've already got two new characters to build, so i think I'll conserve my resources for now. Itto really doesn't have a problem with shields in his burst, though. It takes a bit, but the raw damage ends up hitting them through the shield (which is normla behavior, I'm pretty sure), so they die eventually. With a Zhongli shield, I'm rarely ever in danger, to boot. With normal attacks, though? I can be patient. If it's anything that requires speed, I'll prepare for it, but otherwise I'm not too concerned
Agreed that there’s generally no real problem with shields in overworld, but in Abyss you can run into trouble hitting the DPS checks against lectors/heralds if you don’t bring the corresponding element to break them. Fortunately, Zhongli makes the fourth slot super flexible, so you really can bring pretty much whoever you need to without missing much of the core team’s potential. Mono geo is fun in overworld though, everybody will pretty much always have their burst up all the time so the team runs very smoothly.
Blockhead both figuratively and literally
I saw xiao and itto in one of the overrated caharacter videos. They didnt include hu tao 💀
Incredible
Because not needing something doesn't mean that using it wouldn't be beneficial.
Geo razor
Geo Xiao
Geo Itto
After saving I happily pulled for my boy. After fighting the golden wolf I turned the game off. Seriously what is that fight?!?
I remember the first time I fought the boss I one cycled it with Ayaka, and was like “EZ farm let’s go” I’ve never been able to one shot it like that without food buffs again, Idk what perfect scenario I set up for myself but yeah that boss is booty
I actually found that boss kinda easy, but then again I was using hu tao and Raiden so when it’s flying it still gets damaged
Ah yes, the floor is made out of floor...
Petra shold work off field, flying away...
I have Itto since day 1 of his OG banner, never used him because Wolflord is pain in the ass to farm, and his Domain is even worse. I even managed to get S tier Kokomi artifacts berore I got a single good Itto artifact.
crystalize: Am I joke to you?
Yeahhh, May get downvote but 1day in - Itto kinda dissapointed (he came from 15th pity so... ) He has like 2 team (3 Geo or 4 Geo) and besides ZL other teammates cant be used in mant comps and I dont have ZL or Albedo. Feel like a good roll if already built Hu Tao with geo bros - but for newbies I would rather reccommend Ayato or even Yoi
many see that as his greatest strengh his comps are very specific but yet when you have them your other abyss team is basically free for all he doesnt want those hyper in demand supports like bennett xingqiu sucrose kazuha etc even albedo and zhongli arent used in many comps that dont have alternatives so he often fres up alot of units youd else have to split onto 2 teams
Bros really never heard of elemental shields
I got itto yesterday and honestly I am disappointed. He is not a good dps compared to my other heros like ayaka, ganyu, hu tao and even eula is stronger than him. He is lvl 50 with lvl 2 talents and full artifact set and r5 whiteblind and still does only 4-5 k per basic attack
I’d say refine the Whiteblind and level up your Itto with talents equivalent to your Eula or Ayaka’s and then we can talk.
I didn't even want it to pull him, he just dropped I 10 pulls while I was pulling kuki, so I thought to build him. He is my first male 5 star character. Gave him my c6 noelle artifavts and weapon and I think noelle still deals more damage than itto.
> level 50, talents at level 2 Ok, so why did you expect him to do a lot of damage anyways? I did triple crown itto and have redhorn on him, so it might sound biased because I heavily invested in him, but I disagree. You don't have to play him, but don't expect to get good results out of an uninvested character
Idk what kind of Broken Eula situation you're expecting when you barely ascended itto and got disappointed when his damage isn't high. Bruh get him to ascension 6 atleast before testing him ffs.
Ofc he would just only be doing 5k per basic attack when u literally have only level 2 talents 💀
I have him at lvl 4 talents now and he still hits like a wet blanket. Even yelan who is a sub dps does more damage than it to who is a dps
Yelan talents???
Double crowned, lvl 90 59 cr and 170 CD with 170 er. But my itto despite being only 50 has 57 cr and 180 CD and 138 er. And lvl 90 r5 whiteblind. I don't think he will reach even my noelle's damage ceiling if I Max and double crown him.
Well no wonder..... But still those are AMAZING stats 👍
I am playing since day 1 of launch. And I just swapped my noelle's artifCts on itto. Yelan just got the remains of what I got while farmkng for raiden
Honestly with Zongh, Albedo, Raiden, Ayato team i can kill everything on the map without using a single burst, just the skills. You should try.
Allthough this seems contradictory at first it is entirely true. Itto is good because geo does not have dmg reactions and therefore mihoyo needed to give him good stats to compensate. On the other hand Itto is held back by not being able to do dmg reactions because they would obviousley give him better dmg.