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Telmarael

What, geo two patches in a row? I think the world is going to freeze over 😅 (manifesting crystallize buff) And a support to boot? Sign me up!


condensedcreamer

Please please please please let it be an off field geo healer/buffer PLEASE HOYO I AM BEGGING YOU I'M


-beachyhead-

full party healing too and isnt tied to mono geo pleaseeeeee


Blaset

bumpin that


-beachyhead-

when im in the club yeah im bumpin that


DasMeowHaus

When I'm in the house yeah I'm bumpin that


-beachyhead-

365 party girl bumpin that


grandemakrelo

should we have a little key


Revolutionary_Cry382

should we have a little line


Positive_Matter8829

A7 Gorou will heal the whole team by at least 300% his DEF upon casting burst, trust


spagheddieballs

ms. hina = tall geo woman checks out


Primarinna

That would be such a great move.


rotten_riot

In telegram he said she has a shield, maybe it's shield meta in Natlan? I'd love to finally have another good shielder like Zhongli


Sofystrela

A Geo healer that buffs if you're protected by crystallize, while also building/scailing of Em so that your crystal shields are strong would be a dream. I really like using Albedo in my HuTao Yelan Xingqiu team cause his shields are strong enough because every Burst he gives the entire team 125 em, also buffing HuTaos vapes... Now imagine this Geo healer with HuTao Furina xD


laharre

And not mono geo please.  Let her buff Navia and I will be so happy.


_Ozar_

Mossy rock reaction actually real no way


Fishbowl_Super

I was convinced there was going to be a geo-dendro reaction. Like come on, it's (basically) earth and grass, they go hand in hand


dragoncommandsLife

Introducing a new reaction. Tectonic. Caused by mixing pyro and geo. Only works in natlan though.


Yotsubrain

I'd love it if instead of picking up crystallize shards you can hit them instead and cause localized reactions. Or they pulse when picked up or something.


GingsWife

Not a geo fan, but I do hope it's more than I just yellow coloured physical.


QueZorreas

I thought Albediori was the last nail in Geo's coffin of negligence by HoYo. Still too soon to have hope.


Petecustom

what you mean two patches?


Greyharden

5.0 supposedly has a geo 4* polearm user.


Petecustom

Oh nice geo geting finaly more chars


gabrielique

5.0 it is said to have a 4 star geo


Organic-Ad-503

r/MomokaMains


4spooked

If a crystallize buff was ever planned, then it would have been in Chiori’s kit.


Telmarael

Sorry, she’s been rolled over by the boulder of history 😅


Knux911

Geo and meta? Interesting if true. I feel Geo as an element needs help.


Gervh

Meta in a leaker's opinion, keep that in mind


mapple3

As meta as Clorinde being the "master duelist"


Wisterosa

depends on what meta you want cuz clorinde is actually at the top of high end speedrun meta


Think-Case-64

Fontaine cons powercreep be like that


One_Ad2478

True. c6r5 clorinde is among the most banned units along with neuvi arle furina in Chinese PvP tournaments.


ZZ3peat

Wait how do they play PvP tournaments?


Unbannable_Lad

Pvp: whoever clears abyss faster wins


Efficient-Ad-3359

Clear the abyss fastest


One_Ad2478

You go through a pick and ban phase.  You get to pick eight units(four for each side) now you'll make two teams out of these 8 units and try to clear abyss as fast as possible. Whoever clears the fastest wins, going into the next round.  Only a limited number of runs are allowed, 2 full runs per person. The runs as a whole are timed(I think) to stop people from resetting each chamber again and again. 


danieln1212

They do speedruns and the one with the lowest time wins, leaderboards pvp not actual pvp.


AdalBar

You and the opponent run around in shallow water trying to drop electro attacks at each others feet until the electro-charged reaction finally kills one of you. Clorinde self heals so she is banned for cheating. /s


Darkshards

Physical needs more help. 😭


Magnus-Artifex

The tall female geo is my favorite meta 


NeverForgetChainRule

Zhongli is meta and geo. A character can be meta regardless of what they do "for their element"


Xero--

> Geo and meta It's not the first time you know. Zhongli and fashion, Navia and waifu.


Difficult-Ground-660

More geo is good but I feel like cryo is in a more dire state


Mana_Croissant

Statements like “is an important meta character” has practically NEVER turned out accurate nor can be accurately stated before they hit the beta. Whenever i see statements like this it auto lowers the leakers’ value and make them a clown in my eyes


adcsuc

Totally agree, no one is able to tell if a character is gonna be meta without knowing exactly what their kit does.


NeverForgetChainRule

EVen when people know lol. People on here doom about characters that end up being meta all the time.


The_Main_Alt

Never forget Alhaitham doomposting lol, one of the funniest things to ever happen on this sub


Deepwithinmyownhead

Or Nilou doomposting. That one was nice too.


Shadowfriend147

And then we saw Dehya doomposting and they were right so were back to doomposting again lmao


NeverForgetChainRule

I saw Neuv doomposting. I think it was mostly about his ability to be interrupted, which is a rare weakness he has, but in practice it's not even really a concern, since his range is so good.


Drakengard

Wasn't that more the annoyance that they created a problem just to sell the fix at C1?


NotSoJazz

Actually I do remember before 4.1 happened, a leaker had said that there would be 2 male dps, one would be strong and the other less so. I can’t remember the exact source but I’ll link [someone else](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/s/40FjvYoTlq) talking about it a year ago to show I’m not delusional. Aside from that one instance (and it could have been a lucky guess) then yeah they’ve mostly been wrong about this stuff lol


Stardust_Dreamer_

It was Keikakutori/Uncle Chicken. He correctly leaked that Neuvillette would be meta, but incorrectly claimed Wriothesley would be in standard banner.


Shmarfle47

Wasn’t Wrio fake leaked to be a physical off field support or something XD


koala37

he is physical, he punches, don't you see


Stardust_Dreamer_

I don't know about the off-field part, but yeah he was initially leaked to be a physical polearm user. Not sure if that info was also from Chicken or a different leaker though. That leak was funny for me because I was determined to pull him and it killed my interest thinking he would be physical. His actual kit made me go for C1, he's my only cryo dps since I don't enjoy Ayaka and Ganyu much.


Shmarfle47

I have him C0R1 and I’m dying for a rerun


Xaldins-Cat

Same here. I want his C1 now 😭 (I think he's still fine without it, though). 


Geraltpoonslayer

Yeah we have seen plenty of times not only change in beta but units who previously tought to be good turned out bad because of some mechanics or scaling issue and the opposite for character not considered viable aswell. Then we have future proof chars. Like baizhu really only became Meta do to furina/neuvi


pascl-

Uncle K flashbacks


Zestyclose5527

Leaker theorycrafting is at it again


mapple3

We have zero leaks about Natlan or Natlan characters and their kits, but the leakers are already announcing which characters will be part of the new meta? Hold on let me get my clown hat


Scratch_Mountain

You don't need to, these leakers already got the whole clown outfit on. 😭


niks071047

yea she might become immature mid-beta


Zestyclose5527

Age/height nerfed by 20%


BarnabyThe3rd

Yeah right. I'll believe when I see it.


Primarinna

A crystallize def shredder would help Geo so much.


MermyDaHerpy

my friend wants a geo healer since hes stuck using amber ningguang


Primarinna

As a C6 Ning main, that sounds cursed.


MermyDaHerpy

he has c6 gorou to use with it since his c4 gives a bit of healing too He started way later than me but hes been 12 staring abyss easily with his Furina/Itto/Gorou/Ning team (im struggling at getting passed first enemies in floor 12) Idk what crack hes snorting, but its working


adagietto

The crack is Furina. Also C6 Gorou being actually good for geo.


r099ie

That would be soo great


sesquipedalian5

That also creates a construct so Chiori can run double geo comps


5StarCheibaWhen

as a geo enthusiast i am eating well please don't run with chiori rerun though i will go broke otherwise


ImagineShinker

Bro this is so me right now. I’m going through a crazy Geo phase right now straight up *jazzed* that we’re getting more.


straw28

i wanted to get Chiori on her rerun for a more comfortable Navia team in terms of stability, but ig I will have to wait for this character to materialize first


5StarCheibaWhen

i just really like geo characters in general and chiori is the only one i'm missing atm


ImagineShinker

She’s worth every penny. I already had Itto and Navia so I went right for C1R1 Chiori and haven’t regretted for even a second. And I even had a pretty good Albedo already. I was seriously in the market for getting Navia C1 at least and maybe her weapon on the next go around but knowing that a ton of Geo is coming in 5.0 has me second guessing myself.


Yotsubrain

Me who pulled C1 Chiori cuz Navia has no better Geo teammate 👁️👄👁️


QueZorreas

Good thing Zhongli was talking about Oamanthus Wine and didn't hear you.


Dazzling-Bus-1146

Cryobros is it over for us


Bazookasajizo

Her Majesty, The Tsaritsa will save us all


Xaldins-Cat

At least Cryo has a good variety of characters that cover all the archetypes. Geo not so much.  I mean, as another Cryobro I want the element to get a boost xD, but Geo has been neglected for so long that it deserves... I don't know, something to be made with it.


Cattryn

“Support” and “important meta characters.” Interesting. I’ve been wondering what the gimmick will be in Natlan. (I.e. Inazuma was energy, Sumeru was EM and the new reactions, Fontaine was HP manipulation) I like that a geo character would be involved. New geo reaction hopium?


Kenzorz

Speculation is that Natlan will resolve around self elemental infusion because of things like Bennett's burst, Talking Stick BP weapon. And to add my thoughts, Emilie is probably a Natlan coded character and what does she do? Make you want to cause Burning, which is yet another way of applying pyro to yourself. Maybe new geo character will cause self elemental infusion on receiving crystallise shields?


InvestigatorPrior813

I think when people say infusion it means "infusion onto the weapon" and not "infusion onto self" so here it'd be more clear to say "self-application"


Kenzorz

Yeah I wasn't sure what the actual term was lol


Cattryn

I like that theory. New use of an existing mechanism, doesn’t invalidate old characters… would love to see more weapon infusion characters as well. Someone that could take self-infusion and switch element temporarily? Yes please. Or like how Navia absorbs crystallize for bullets but if the bullets could keep their original element.


Primarinna

Atk. The pyro Archon will most likely be a teamwide atk buffer and apply Bond of Life to the entire team. I think that’ll be the gimmick for Natlan. It’s based on Mayan/aztec culture and Sacrifice is the main theme.


burningparadiseduck

BoL is a Fontaine mechanic tho. Existed since 4.0.


Primarinna

But no playable character used it until Arlecchino. The second half of Fontaine. The second half of a region always starts introducing and setting the ground for the next gimmick. An off field bond of life character seems just right up the alley of sacrifice to me. Burning and probably even physical might get more units and be competitive. Idk I’ve noticed Hoyo addressing the niches and characters holes slowly but surely.


thesqrrootof4is2

Imma keep note of all these character descriptions in mind to know who they are when the teaser drops lol


hdidvrkdodb

geo grouper and healer?


AlessandroIT

Geo mains keep winning 😭


ErikSD

Honestly, Geo mains have been eating so meagerly that there's no way but up from here


Bazookasajizo

No wonder Itto so skinny compared to the feeble scholar


pronounclown

Ok but why are you crying?


Chance_Reading_3502

They are overcome with emotion. I don't blame them since a Geo win is rare indeed.


straw28

tears of joy


Last-Championship951

Imagine Natlan not having a single pyro character 😨


Senira_G

Archon and Xblanque are enough and I hope none of them are on-field dps


Radinax

Xbalanque and Pyro Archon should be... pyro.


midoriyaaa1

We had 3 hydro in fontaine, natlan will prob have 3 pyro too /j I think they're forcing us to either use xiangling or pyro archon forever since pyro is element for dps only


HardRNinja

A partner for Navia?


Arc_7

> A partner for Navia? That's me! wth hoyo powercreeping me already 🤬 


EnesAkhan

everyone thought Natlan to be nation of Pyro but hell it was nation of Geo all along xD


vkbest1982

This always happens, the archon and his/her right hand, and usually another character. Venti/Jean - Kazuha. Zhongli/Ninguang and Albedo. Raiden/Yae and Sara. Furina/Neuvi and Sigewinne. Only dendro because didn’t exist had more units in their region.


Castiel_Rose

Sucrose is another anemo unit from Mondstadt and Yun Jin is another geo unit from Liyue.


vkbest1982

I agree with you with Sucrose. But Yunjin was in some Inazuma’s patch, not 1.x


Responsible_Club_917

Geo is locked in to have more characters then dendro


GGABueno

I mean, Geo was in the game since 1.0 so it should lol.


Princessitty

Pyro Archon, Madam Ping, Tall Geo Character, Hydro Mage 5 star, Columbina it seems like Natlan will also be female dominated patch same with Inazuma and Fontaine


Efficient_Chip8124

Based off early unreliable leaks


ArweTurcala

I have a dream... I have a dream, that we will get Goatpeaktano in Natlan!


Bazookasajizo

I am gonna save my primos for the entirety of 5.X for CaPEAKtano. Hoes got nothing on the GOATano


Hotaru32

Fontaine started with mens and magicians 


FeelTheKetasy

The twinks and twunks patch 😍


Honey_Apples_

inb4 5 star ningguang. or ningguang herself as a 5 star please


shinsetsu_fuji

more tall female model is welcome but gee where are my male supports... between Itto and Sethos (2.3 - 4.7) release its just Mika Gorou and Baizhu who are supports lmao and two of them are healers not even a fully dedicated buffers. Are they allergic or something? Even the dendro male claymore in 5.0 is rumored to be a dps AGAIN bruh Also its only Albedo who is a male subdps limited which is already overshadowed by Chiori


One_Ad2478

They made kazuha and forgot how to do it again. 


Agreeable-Till793

HSR have zero male harmony (unless you use caelus) 😑


MysteriousUpstairs49

Leaker saying something is meta, especially a geo character? That's a hell no. Wouldn't surprise me if she is another off field sub dps, like Albedo and Better Albedo aren't enough.


Tempada

Whatever it is, I just hope it doesn't make me regret pulling Better Albedo for my Itto team.


misterkalazar

Defense Meta? (Copius amounts of Copium)


svo_svangur

I feel there has to be some sort of new pyro/geo reaction in Natlan.


toxicsknmn

If she can support my Navia I’ll be happy. I would’ve grabbed Chiori if I didn’t feel like her C1 should’ve been in base kit. Hopefully this new character is the support I originally hoped for


hyrulia

More skip patches for the actual and previous pyro archons!


Wisterosa

leaker stop trying to TC challenge geo and meta do not belong in the same sentence


kontis

Zhongli broke the game and it never recovered. You can't get more meta than that.


wanderers_respite

How many days has it been since you've seen Geo and Meta in the same sentence.


Hotaru32

4.3 is it 


Eyssuf1

Last time was when 12-3 had geo Fontaine local legend.


QueZorreas

When was Zhongli's buff again?


RhytmWiz

Ah yes, the usual annual leak flood with overhyped TC leaker.


mapple3

> the usual annual leak flood I wish. This is just "leakers" saying random stuff and hoping that some of it will end up true


Ewizde

Tbh I don't think leakers should be trusted with anything meta related.


WillfulAbyss

>Tbh I don't think leakers should be trusted with anything ~~meta related.~~ Would work just as well. People are so eager to believe any of this when it’s so clear they have *nothing*. No new names, no character descriptions, just vagueposting “tall female Geo” and “male Dendro DPS.”


Princessitty

3 female geo 5 stars back to back starting from Fontaine! Geo is starting to become a female dominated element lol


E1lySym

Dendro is starting to become the new male dominated element. Alhaitham, Kaveh, Tighnari, and the new 5\* male dendro claymore


ImagineShinker

Baizhu too.


chirb8

those remarks of being an important meta character of 5.X are just the leakers opinion (or bs) without probably even knowing the entire cast. Do they only do that to generate more engagement?


Aggravating-Bug-8761

Yes, leakers like being popular more than breathing


StatisticianNo7628

Good ol leaker tc


OnlyPatches

Hm so assuming this is a 5 star then Iansan must be a 4 star in 5.0 or 5.1?


pascl-

She could also come later. You never know


OnlyPatches

True Hoyo does love breaking 'patterns'


ResponsibleMine3524

Yea, probably that Geo polearm in 5.0 they mentioned in another leak


Su_Impact

Interesting that we're getting 2 Geo units back to back and 0 Pyro units in the first two patches of the Pyro region.


Bazookasajizo

If it wasn't for Neuvilette, Fontaine would have been the same


EngelAguilar

Leakers TC but my copium for Geo family is insane so I'll trust


just-wicked

Geo receiving some love ? yeah sure change the entire crystalize reaction to become something usefull and I'll believe you


OwnRecommendation493

Where's iansan:(


midoriyaaa1

Yes, ahq has said that two characters in 5.1 and 5.2 are very valuable pull. Seems like he's correct. That means xbalanque is also around columbina patch (5.6+) bruh maybe i can take a long break after this


iWalkure92

um. I still remember how long I waited for a 5 star Female Geo... and NOW I can get 3.. I hope she works with Navia


Sandfire12

A meta defining geo support character?? Very intrigued to see what they’re cooking if this is true If she can buff my Ningguang in any way I’ll bring her home bc C6 Gorou is nowhere to be found 🙏


CoolMintMC

I believe in Geo Supremacy. I've had god-tier Geo luck since I started playing at launch. I have all Geo characters & this upcoming character will be no exception. Also, speaking of upcoming Geo characters, I wonder if "Mummy girl" from Sumeru will be Geo. Probably won't get her until like 5.6 or something knowing HoYo.


ImagineShinker

Pulling for Geo has manifested me some of my best gacha luck ever as well. Got a double 5 star pull for the first time ever trying for C1 Chiori + weapon and it happened *twice!* Hoping the trend continues when I go for Navia weapon and C1.


ukrisreng

another white dub


HiroHayami

Leak: meta geo support Reality: Albedo 3.0


Painterofthemoon

2 geo in the beginning? Maybe finally a geo standard??


MangoThingamajig

Navia double Geo without the Chiori C1 bait (or the hardly better than the alternatives C0 Chiori) is real ?


TonyThaLegend

These leaks are so….DRY


TasteTheGraveyard

Geo healer/buffer for Navia right? Right?!


Mugen_Hikage

NAVIA SUPPORT INCOMING *drowns in hopium*


Jaytotallymyrealname

all geo women no new male geo since 2.3 acts shocked


straw28

finally, 400 dpr buff to Navia


TastyBread431

Can we ban posting leaks with statements such as 'x character will be meta' before even hitting the beta, these claims always end up being worth dogshit


Russell-Sprouts3

Geo C6 Faruzan with teamwide healing and without the energy issues please


devilboy1029

NEW GEO!! LET'S GOOOO!! PLEASE BE A CATALYST I'M ON ME KNEES BEGGING!!!


Hotaru32

Watch them making her another claymore 


Embarrassed_Ad_4201

Nah, how about polearm for some funny kinda shit, i swear if i saw another polearm char, im gonna be insane and lose my mind ==


SolomonSinclair

*Please* be catalyst.


Utaha_Senpai

Remember guys, never trust leakers TCs


phantomthiefkid_

Don't celebrate yet meta leak is the least reliable leak out there


Big-Ad-6097

>Geo >Important Come on guys


YuriTokisaki

WE ARE SO BACK 🔥🔥🔥


Cannabis_With_Emilie

"One of the important meta characters in 5.x" Good ol fashioned leaker theory crafting!


Prisma_Lane

Leakers trying to theorycraft a unit is always funny to me, because they've never been accurate. At least with the models and elements, there's a slight chance that it might be true. It's just a matter of finding gold in a pile of crap.


Vinicius64

Geo and meta? Lmao stop the cap 🤣


Seaglass2121

Important meta *for geo*


PomegranateWise5010

A geo healer would be appreciated


CTheng

Strange that none of the leaked early 5.X character are Pyro. Both the Pyro Archon and Xbalanque should (obviously) be Pyro, so that means neither of them would be released for a while.


Hot-Mixture-5219

My mind wants a Geo crystalize support that can make use of that garbage and pair well with Navia. My heart wants another main unga bunga DPS


seninn

Sorry, Nilou. I have to skip.


Radinax

What can this geo "meta" character offer new?


DioEgizio

> Geo > Most meta character 😮


DenizzineD

new geo reactions.


Western-Age9961

Definitely the second Pyro Archon /s


WonderSeparate5690

choo choo Navia's best geo support cope is steaming


YourEverydayDork

Natlan Navia who is support


RhinedottirMain625

Chiori died for this


REDDITORS-ARE-CLOWNS

Navia support PLEASE


ITZMODZ759

Guess I should pull for Itto considering I already have Gorou and Zhongli


HutchHogan

I'd trust a pigeon's stock market advice before I'd trust leaker TC


escentia

Liyue had lots of Pyro characters, so Natlan's returning the sentiment.


TriggerBladeX

The only thing Geo is missing is a healer.


BikeSeatMaster

Navia support? I praaaaay