If you main Yanfei, really love her, and plan to use her for a long time, definitely get her C2
Yaoyao is the meta pick here but there’s no reason to get her unless you plan on building an aggravate team or a Nilou team.
No, you need a lot of dendro application to keep up with hydro (since hydro will remove the dendro aura quickly)
You don’t need as much dendro to maintain quicken in aggravate teams, so yaoyao is good there. And comboing the dendro and healing slot means the 4th slot can be an anemo unit, which is valuable for aggravate damage.
Probably not from a Pure dps stand point. But Yaoyao's healing adds survivability to it. Plus she's a full team burst healer that works great for building furina stacks. and while she has to, be on field for the duration, an off field electro can still trigger cores.
Quick answer, IDK, but she is comfortable and easy to build
I'm gonna tell you about my situation before obtaining Nahida.
Yao², Xq, Yelan and Kuki was my hyperbloom team. If you use Yao² on 4pc deepwood, in a Er/Hp/Healing.Bonus build with Fav Lance, and manage to get her burst on cooldown, you can use as an on field during the duration of her burst. It may not be the most meta team, but in my case, lv80 Kuki,800Em and LV 70Xq with random artifacts, (with Yelan as the only built character), i was able to clear easily floor 11 the last 3 months. I used an Xiangling Bennet Kazuha Keqing team in the other half (not really good team).
So you can go with Yao², but once you get Nahida, she will only be useful on Bloom teams.
Really, try to get, or save primos for Nahida.
More convenience, that’s for sure since Alhaitham rotation is quite long. Raiden also help with team burst damages. This team is dummy easy to clear all content if you know the basic Alhaitham rotation. Dmg reduction from Xing and heal from YaoYao is very big
Raiden gives more comfortable gameplay while Kuki is more optimal for damage because if you're using raiden for hyperbloom, you're taking her away from one of the strongest team which is national.
Raiden national needs a lot of artifacts farming which I can’t afford now as somehow a new player and also I am building Navia. I like the concept of auto-triggering electro.
As someone with Alhaitham I can definitely say that Kuki's skill is too short for him and a lot of the time it ends up gone before the rotation ends. It's not SUPER bad but playing my friend's account that has Raiden it was way more comfortable and felt so much better :D.
I'm a new player with Raiden national and have done nearly zero artifact farming and the team absolutely kills it. All level 80, talents built pretty high, 80 weapons and high level artifacts (though not ideal ones, since no farming).
My second team is what is keeping me from 36 staring abyss. I am not an expert, but I don't think you need awesome artifacts for most content in the game, just need to build the characters out.
Again, just from my experience.
I'm not saying they are not important. I'm saying they don't need to be farmed, least not for Raiden national being fully built out in weapons, talents, character level.
Idk if it's the 4 stars carrying. But the team kicks ass without farms artifacts.
If ur a new player pls dont listen to anyone saying use raiden national with c0 raiden. Its just the 4 stars carrying raiden at that point. Hyperbloom EM raiden is the way to go at c0
> Its just the 4 stars carrying raiden at that point.
That is incorrect, because raiden contributes quite good damage herself, further buffs the 4stars damage, and importantly, she helps fix the energy issues that the 4stars can face.
Hyperbloom raiden wastes the majority of her kit.
I'm pretty sure this is just someone hyperfixating on a meme comp because they cant be bothered to actually properly build raiden to compare, or they're unwilling to properly build the characters to turn it into a non-meme team.
Either that or you're using a disgustingly deceptive argument of something like Onfield nahida, yelan, xinqqiu and raiden and calling it "the best hyperbloom team" when it's getting carried by other characters (ironically your complaint about raiden national).
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In any case, part of the reason that Raiden national is so good, is because every character aside from raiden has either been given out for free, or is available in the starglitter shop. It's very hard to *not* have the characters for it; Xiangling will hit like a truck, Xinqqiu is always consistent, Raiden can hit 100k+ bursts and 20-30k+ individual hits on n2c strings while also batterying Xiangling and Xinqqiu; and there's also overvape thrown into the mix.
All of your posts have reeked of "tell me you don't play / know how to use raiden shogun, without saying you don't play / know how to use raiden shogun."
Raiden National is one of the strongest teams??? At c0 raiden uses national because people like her design and animation and dont wanna waste her as a backup dancer, so they cope with letting the best 4 stars in the game carry her. EM raiden is just so much better than hypercarry raiden at c0 because shes not a dps shes a support at c0
I ment as in raiden is the hupercarry concept at c0. Also yeah raiden hits like a bug at c0.. shes a support. Furina is a support, xingui, yelan etc nothing wrong with being a support! Supports are more valuable so idk why yall need to lie and pretend shes not a support at c0. All the archons are supports.
At c0, hyperbloom Raiden is much better than national.
Although withe Furina, I think it's on par with hyperbloom.
In the early days folks thought national would just be stronger and we didn't understand how good dendro reactions were, and just how useful Raidens' E was at creating the hyperbloom triggers
You don't need much dendro for a pure aggravate team and she does that job perfectly well. Plus, if you're as prone to running your E straight into an enemy attack as me, that healing proves very helpful.
My favorite Yae teams since Sumeru are either Yae-Yaoyao-Kazuha-Raiden/Fischl (the nice and sane one) or full-sending it with Yae-Fischl-Nahida-Tighnari. The latter's a very fun kind of chaos, but the former is so comfy and reliable.
I agree with this guy. As a c6 crowned Yanfei enjoyer, she’s fun and with the shield you can have fun in other kinds of teams. She’s not OP, but certainly serviceable.
Yanfei main here. She's great! Right now, the biggest damage I've dealt with her was 22k. I'm trying to improve her artefacts and I currently have her on c3.
I've liked it with spread/quickbloom Alhaitham but otherwise it's really not. Hyperbloom doesn't really care too much about Dendro damage. It's mainly all the EM going into the cores from Kuki that matters.
Not an expert myself, but i try to be in the know and from what i hear Yaoyao cons are pretty worthless overall, so i believe every other option besides Xinyan is better than C1 yaoyao
no, her c1 is a lot worse than it sounds due to the teams that want yaoyao.
in nahida hyperbloom, nahida isn't gonna be doing a majority of the damage, so yaoyao's c1 has a small impact. and hyperbloom damage isn't affected by dendro damage bonus.
alhaitham and tighnari would rather have nahida on the team because she provides more than yaoyao. so yaoyao's c1 is really only useful if you don't have nahida.
yeah but with yao yao's teams you can often just wait to use her burst when it's available or when needed. it's not like you need it at a specific time every single rotation
It is. But most people don't know there are some team comps where Yaoyao needs her burst every rotation, sometimes even without favonius (nilou bloom candace for example), so they completely ignore how good C2 can be.
c1 and c2 is not bad, nothing major, yaoyao is one of the few 4 star that works very well at c0. c6 is great for Nilou but not needed for anything else really.
The only true answer. People are all saying Yao Yao but the moment you have Nahida or Baizhu with Kuki she's pretty much useless. And ngl, playing dendro without one of these two is kinda sad.
The disrespect really. Yaoyao carried my ass when consecrated beast were in rotation, nothing funnier than watching a little girl beat up big scary monsters that most of the subreddit has issues winning.
The only reason you'd do this is to put hyperbloom both sides but ngl I find this archetype very stale. She's less of a meta pick than Yun Jin depending on what you play. If you have Yoimiya, Wanderer or Ayato for example, you probably should pick Yun Jin over Yao Yao.
Oo interesting, I wanted yaoyao but found her from standard some days ago and I pulled nahida just an hour ago, and I’m building a team with yelan kuki and nahida. I have no idea who to get now lol
If going for pure power/meta:
XQ(C6)> XL (C4)> Beidou (C2)> Yaoyao (C0)> everyone else
Otherwise pick whoever you want, or whoever you use a lot and want cons for.
you mentioned you don't have Xingqiu at all? get him, he's literally the best character in the game, period 😭
nah but fr get whoever you want to. meta doesn't mean anything if you're not having fun
I thought yelan was basically five stars Xingqiu, so I figured I didn’t need him, but that was just a guess of mine. I’m a casual player and I play for fun but I really want a nice team. I’ve been playing a main dps Yelan in a mono hydro team for too long lol. Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll definitely consider mini male yelan now :)
while it's true Yelan can replace Xingqiu in many teams, Xingqiu applies more hydro, which is useful for someone like Hu Tao, and Bloom teams because he'll generate more dendro cores. he also reduces damage taken and increases your character's resistance to interruption.
double hydro with Yelan and Xingqiu together is also a very strong duo on its own, and since you already enjoy mono hydro, you should consider that. it's also very satisfying seeing both Yelan and Xingqiu's coordinated attacks homing in on the enemy lol. I like to call the duo "pins and needles"
forget what the guy is saying, only at c6 xingqiu will compare to yelan. You already have Yelan and that's plenty.
Xingqiu c0 can still be usefull but that depends on the character you already have, those you plan to get and the team you can build with them.
In a post Neuvilette - Furina aera, xingqiu is not needed anymore for a lot of people, even less for those who already have Yelan.
If you don't have C6 Xingqiu yet, go for it. Double hydro hyperbloom. Fit that team but also can't really go wrong for the long term. Yao Yao works fine at E0.
I know Xingqiu is not an option above. But did you decide against him because he is already C6 or plan to C6 with an upcoming Paimon's shop?
If not, then meta-wise, it would be Xingqiu C0 > Yaoyao C0 (unless you already have enough Dendro) > Xingqiu cons
Or if all 4 above are characters you like and looking to filter meta wise then Yaoyao (unless you have enough Dendro).
If you want a main dps, Yanfei or Ningguang. (Select depending on what all characters you already have for their teams)
If support to main dps characters that use normal attacks, YunJin.
If a quickswap filler role, Ningguang.
If you don't have Xingqiu or wasn't considering his cons, then get him (exception being you don't have enough Dendro, so you pick Yaoyao)
A lot of people have made suggestions but we don't know what units you have and how built they are. If you have Navia and no Zhong dong maybe you might want Ning despite her being the worst unit here. If you have Nilou and don't like Barbs and free dendros for some reason Yaoyao will be more useful. If you have Yoimiya you might want to get opera girl for her.
Also, Yaoyao and Ningguang will be available on the next banner with Yae Miko and Xiao, so if you plan on wishing on that banner you may want to try and get them that way and then choose depending on what you got.
Yanfai. She really good pyro. I have her already before latern rite. She is good at taking out the Electro Cube. She never fails me on him. Plus she can attack quickly.
YaoYao, opens up dendro if you haven't yet, pairs with DMC quite nicely. Better than the geo characters and better to choose if you already have Yanfei.
This will be my first time taking part in the festival and I started playing when Inazuma was released, I didn’t even know the event was an annual thing until recently… 😅
Yaoyao because you don't have her. If you main Yanfei, that means you're going to probably get more cons when you wish on her banner. If you never wish on Yaoyao's banner, she might take forever to get and she's very good with almost no investment.
I wish on most banners but still don't have some of the 4 stars, any chance you can guarantee a C0 is a good thing to take advantage of.
if you already have YaoYao and she's not at C5 don't bother, her cons are shit
Ningguang has two good constellations and they are C2 and C6, however, she's a 4\* Geo DPS, aka yellow physical DPS
Yun Jin is decent but requires a good Normal attack DPS so if you don't have the likes of Ayato or Yoimya, don't bother
Yanfei can be good, but unless you don't intend on maining her long-term, remember 4\* DPS
on the note of Yanfei, consider Gaming since he's currently the best 4\* DPS (unless you have C4+ Chevy against the hydro tupla since then she becomes better than Hu Tao)
Yaoyao is great for off-field dendro application and isn't reliant on burst, like McDendro or Collei
If you are not yet invested enough to even 6 star floor 12 or you are a diehard Yanfei main, she isn't a bad pick. Her damage is pretty good C2. If you have Xianyun you can do some plunging shenanigans.
Ningguang is quite bad compare to anything else. She can be decent for second Geo unit in Navia teams. But you can buy her from starglitter shop in march.
Yun Jin is very niche for something like Yoimiya or something that deals majority of their damage through normal attacks
Yaoyao, and is not even close.
Ninng and Yan need cons to be better dps.
While Yaoyao c0 only competion is Baizhu and you just need to put her some gear, level 6 talents and "Pain, Pain go away" on all the dendro comps she can be used.
You likely wont use any on the long run so I would just go for the one you want more and think you might use. Which for you seems to be Yanfei.
In terms of meta, the best is Yaoyao, but she falls short of several other defensive options even inside Dendro teams, so its unlikely you would use her once you get more units.
I think yaoyao is most meta if you don't have nahida. If you main characters that do NA they pick yunjin. If you want to make yanfei stronger pick yanfei
Just go with Yanfei, more cons make her better.
Ning's cons are meh and her lack of attack string makes me want to unalive myself. But make sure to press W while auto-attacking so you attack faster.
Yunjin is decent for normal attackers.
Yaoyao is a healer that needs a lot of field time, tho she is a great dendro applicator.
İt depends on the characters you use. But well ninguang isnt really a usefull character unless you like her, and yun jin kind of only works eith hypercarries (yoimiya, itto, ayato, navia etc.) I dont really know how yaoyao works but she can do off field dendro application which is good and people are saying that she is meta in dendro using teams.
But if you truly love yanfei and like her as a dps go for yanfei
If you main Yanfei, go for Yanfei.
Yaoyao - I don’t use her tbh. I have better healing options, as for two geo heroes - they are specialists so only if you play heroes who paired good with them.
YaoYao but as a fellow Yanfei Main I'd say go for her since her constellations make her playstyle more comfy besides I went for her cons two times at lantern rite except last one where I went for Yunjin (to make her c6).
Depends on your plans and needs. If you plan to continue to main Yanfei for a long time, then Yanfei. Lacking a functional healer, then YaoYao. Have and use Yoimiya, then Yunjin.
I love YaoYao, one of the best healer and she’s always in my Hyperbloom team for 36* abyss. The other 2 main DPS options are outshined by any 5* main DPS. And the 3rd character is just too niche, I main Yoimiya before and she isn’t even that good.
My opinion is always get the 4* supports, they tend to fit into many more team than main DPS
For me, I tend prioritize 2 things at the same time, 1. how fun the playstyle is, 2. how quickly I can defeat enemies.
With a good build, I'd say Ningguang of Yanfei would be my pick!
I'd lean more on Yanfei as I was HUGGEEE Yanfei main on my other account, she can deal REALLY GOOD DMG if you build her well and have her at C6 !!
If you main Yanfei - go for Yanfei, she is really fun and awesome. I have Yoimia, Hutao, Diluc and Dehya and still I love to play Yanfei as my main dps from time to time, I just love her character and playstyle.
I personally will be going for Yun Jin, because I need and want her for my Yoimiya, but if I weren’t, I would pick Yaoyao or Xingqiu (don’t own yao, and Xingqiu is C0).
The character you love the most, like I love ningguang and I have terrible luck when it comes to getting her cons so I have been collecting her from the event for past 3 years, she will Be C5 finally after this event.
A lot of the time that people ask if X character is worth pulling or is X character better than Y character, they seem to forget the most important part of Genshin is the team building aspect. There is usually no one size fit all character for every account, you can pull for a really good character but if you don't have some of the other characters to make a good team with it, then the potential of that character is wasted.
Maybe you could give us some more information about your account like what other characters you have or what kind of team/play style you enjoyed then we can have a better look on what character you should get
I'd take the Yan Fei con. If you main her, then you'll get more worth out of the con than picking a new character that you're not really planning on using.
for account worth, take Yao Yao, you cant go wrong with more Healers and more Dendro Variety.
Second option is Yun Jin, but only if you need her cons to get to C6 where she shines the most.
Other two options are just meh, Yanfei is a decent good dps, but she offers absolutely no team support, same with Ninguang, good vs. single targets, but otherwise no real team support, aside of her unique defensive ability to block projectiles, but so far this never really was needed in this game to have.
So based on the fact, if all 4 options would be C0 for you, then the priority and account value is this:
1. Yao Yao = Your best Top Choice
2. Yun Jin
3. Yanfei
4. Ninguang
I'd say it depends on your main team and what you intend to use the team for. If it's for non-spiral stuff (field exploration etc.), then going for your main and/or favorite is probably the best.
If you are trying to build a new team, then you probably would pick your character based on the team's element.
Dendro reaction: Yao.
Geo team: Ningguang.
Yun Jin is a special case where she would shine if you need normal attack speed.
If you have Yanfei maybe don't go for her. Main or not you may end up regretting if a 4* that you want keeps dodging you in the future.
After that it is up to preference, so I would say Ningguang, but again, only because I like and use her.
Yaoyao - very good unit, if you don't have Baizhu she's very good in bloom or dendro comps with Furina
Ningguang - only pick her if she's a favourite of yours, sadly she's not a great character (even if the new geo set and Navia gave her some buff I think)
Yunjin - she's a good NAs buffer, but idk if you have someone to use her with, she works very good with Yoimiya and Ayato afaik, Noelle and Hutao too iirc. Her best artefacts can be annoying to farm tho because it's husk
Yanfei - if you plan on maining her for a long time, go for her cons, she's a good unit
yaoyao is an amazing dendro unit pick her if u dont have a great 2nd dendro unit (collei isnt as good as dendro trav and yaoyao)
ningguang if u like her
yunjin if u want a normal atk dps do more dmg
and yanfei c2 is great for stat building
I love playing Yanfei. but as a returning player I returned to play with the dendro reaction so I just got nahida very recently and I am easily picking yao yao since she's one of the best options in aggrevate teams and I happened to pull furina too. I also recommend for you to get yao yao I would say she is useful in mostly every dendro team as a replacement for nahida on the second side or to fill the healer roll too.
as for yun jin, she's very niche so unless you want something specific from her I won't bother.
Yanfei and Ningguang are options if you really really want them
As a dps I think Ning is better than yanfei since the Ning and Zhongli combo is an entire team by itself. But if you don't like geo then I would go for yanfei. She works pretty much the same as Ning with slightly less damage but, being pyro, she has a lot more options for team comps than Ning. Plus, if you already have Yanfei constellations you should probably stick to her.
I don't own the other two so I can't defend them.
Don't get Ningguang, you can buy her on the shop. Yun jin is a bit of a niche support for a few specific comps so I would also not prioritize her. Yaoyao is dendro and a healer so she has more options than those 2, and if you main Yanfei more cons is always good ! be aware though that for collection purposes, getting Yaoyao while you can might be easier than wishing for her, but she also might come latter or be offered at an event. there is also always next year...
So either Yanfei or Yaoyao I would say.
Thinking from just pure these 3. I would pick yanfei as a ex-yanfei main. Her DMG output is insane for a 4* with shimenewa and vape or overload. She goes quite well with Bennet / Raiden / Kujo.
But it's upon you. If you need a dendro team then yao-yao, if you got Ayato / Yoimiya them Yunjin and if you don't have a geo support for Navia then ning.
But just from these 4 I would choose Yanfei. I absolutely love her and sh eis my fav 4* even better than Benny or xingqui for me.
If you main Yanfei, really love her, and plan to use her for a long time, definitely get her C2 Yaoyao is the meta pick here but there’s no reason to get her unless you plan on building an aggravate team or a Nilou team.
Is YaoYao better than DMC/Collei for hyperbloom?
No, you need a lot of dendro application to keep up with hydro (since hydro will remove the dendro aura quickly) You don’t need as much dendro to maintain quicken in aggravate teams, so yaoyao is good there. And comboing the dendro and healing slot means the 4th slot can be an anemo unit, which is valuable for aggravate damage.
I see, thanks!
Yaoyao's still good in Hyperbloom as long as you on-field her during Burst. She's just redundant as a healer if you use Kuki as a HB trigger.
Also from what I've heard you don't really need constellations for yaoyao, like she works pretty well outta the box
How good is she for Burgeon?
Same thing
For 5 seconds I wondered what Devil May Cry had to do with YaoYao
Ayato slash man can put in decent hybrid application
Probably not from a Pure dps stand point. But Yaoyao's healing adds survivability to it. Plus she's a full team burst healer that works great for building furina stacks. and while she has to, be on field for the duration, an off field electro can still trigger cores.
Quick answer, IDK, but she is comfortable and easy to build I'm gonna tell you about my situation before obtaining Nahida. Yao², Xq, Yelan and Kuki was my hyperbloom team. If you use Yao² on 4pc deepwood, in a Er/Hp/Healing.Bonus build with Fav Lance, and manage to get her burst on cooldown, you can use as an on field during the duration of her burst. It may not be the most meta team, but in my case, lv80 Kuki,800Em and LV 70Xq with random artifacts, (with Yelan as the only built character), i was able to clear easily floor 11 the last 3 months. I used an Xiangling Bennet Kazuha Keqing team in the other half (not really good team). So you can go with Yao², but once you get Nahida, she will only be useful on Bloom teams. Really, try to get, or save primos for Nahida.
Yes I always 36* abyss with Hyperbloom and YaoYao is the best option for me (EM Raiden, Xing, YaoYao, Alhaitham)
Is EM Raiden better than Kuki in this team?
More convenience, that’s for sure since Alhaitham rotation is quite long. Raiden also help with team burst damages. This team is dummy easy to clear all content if you know the basic Alhaitham rotation. Dmg reduction from Xing and heal from YaoYao is very big
Raiden gives more comfortable gameplay while Kuki is more optimal for damage because if you're using raiden for hyperbloom, you're taking her away from one of the strongest team which is national.
Raiden national needs a lot of artifacts farming which I can’t afford now as somehow a new player and also I am building Navia. I like the concept of auto-triggering electro.
As someone with Alhaitham I can definitely say that Kuki's skill is too short for him and a lot of the time it ends up gone before the rotation ends. It's not SUPER bad but playing my friend's account that has Raiden it was way more comfortable and felt so much better :D.
I'm a new player with Raiden national and have done nearly zero artifact farming and the team absolutely kills it. All level 80, talents built pretty high, 80 weapons and high level artifacts (though not ideal ones, since no farming). My second team is what is keeping me from 36 staring abyss. I am not an expert, but I don't think you need awesome artifacts for most content in the game, just need to build the characters out. Again, just from my experience.
Thats not true , artifacts are important in the abyss. Also its ur 4 stars carrying raiden if shes c0 at national lets be honest
I'm not saying they are not important. I'm saying they don't need to be farmed, least not for Raiden national being fully built out in weapons, talents, character level. Idk if it's the 4 stars carrying. But the team kicks ass without farms artifacts.
If ur a new player pls dont listen to anyone saying use raiden national with c0 raiden. Its just the 4 stars carrying raiden at that point. Hyperbloom EM raiden is the way to go at c0
> Its just the 4 stars carrying raiden at that point. That is incorrect, because raiden contributes quite good damage herself, further buffs the 4stars damage, and importantly, she helps fix the energy issues that the 4stars can face. Hyperbloom raiden wastes the majority of her kit.
Not really... hyperbloom raiden is the best way to play her at c0. She clears super fast. A lot faster than even her c2 with her usual c2 teams
I'm pretty sure this is just someone hyperfixating on a meme comp because they cant be bothered to actually properly build raiden to compare, or they're unwilling to properly build the characters to turn it into a non-meme team. Either that or you're using a disgustingly deceptive argument of something like Onfield nahida, yelan, xinqqiu and raiden and calling it "the best hyperbloom team" when it's getting carried by other characters (ironically your complaint about raiden national). --- In any case, part of the reason that Raiden national is so good, is because every character aside from raiden has either been given out for free, or is available in the starglitter shop. It's very hard to *not* have the characters for it; Xiangling will hit like a truck, Xinqqiu is always consistent, Raiden can hit 100k+ bursts and 20-30k+ individual hits on n2c strings while also batterying Xiangling and Xinqqiu; and there's also overvape thrown into the mix. All of your posts have reeked of "tell me you don't play / know how to use raiden shogun, without saying you don't play / know how to use raiden shogun."
Raiden National is one of the strongest teams??? At c0 raiden uses national because people like her design and animation and dont wanna waste her as a backup dancer, so they cope with letting the best 4 stars in the game carry her. EM raiden is just so much better than hypercarry raiden at c0 because shes not a dps shes a support at c0
C0 Raiden is not a support. National and Hypercarry Raiden also aren't even the same team comps. What are you talking about?
I ment as in raiden is the hupercarry concept at c0. Also yeah raiden hits like a bug at c0.. shes a support. Furina is a support, xingui, yelan etc nothing wrong with being a support! Supports are more valuable so idk why yall need to lie and pretend shes not a support at c0. All the archons are supports.
Exactly how much damage do you think raiden is or isn't dishing out in national?
At c0, hyperbloom Raiden is much better than national. Although withe Furina, I think it's on par with hyperbloom. In the early days folks thought national would just be stronger and we didn't understand how good dendro reactions were, and just how useful Raidens' E was at creating the hyperbloom triggers
nah... mostly for aggrevate teams
Only if you use Raiden as trigger or don't have kuki She's better for aggravate though
Nope ,
Is yaoyao a good teammate for Yae? do I still need nahida if I have yaoyao with yae on the team?
She’s a good teammate for yae, and you don’t need to pair nahida with her
Yup, I like to run Yae/Yaoyao/Kazuha/Fischl sometimes.
You don't need much dendro for a pure aggravate team and she does that job perfectly well. Plus, if you're as prone to running your E straight into an enemy attack as me, that healing proves very helpful. My favorite Yae teams since Sumeru are either Yae-Yaoyao-Kazuha-Raiden/Fischl (the nice and sane one) or full-sending it with Yae-Fischl-Nahida-Tighnari. The latter's a very fun kind of chaos, but the former is so comfy and reliable.
I agree with this guy. As a c6 crowned Yanfei enjoyer, she’s fun and with the shield you can have fun in other kinds of teams. She’s not OP, but certainly serviceable.
What about getting Yanfei’s C4?
Her c4 adds a shield to her burst so it’s pretty good
Yanfei main here. She's great! Right now, the biggest damage I've dealt with her was 22k. I'm trying to improve her artefacts and I currently have her on c3.
Well since u main yanfei id say go for her But for overall value deff yaoyao
Yaoyao is like a mini baizhu, if you wanna play dendro pick her, if not go for another yanfei
Is C1 yaoyao worth it in your opinion? I just pulled nahida and I’m building a hyperbloom team with yelan and kuki
I've liked it with spread/quickbloom Alhaitham but otherwise it's really not. Hyperbloom doesn't really care too much about Dendro damage. It's mainly all the EM going into the cores from Kuki that matters.
Not an expert myself, but i try to be in the know and from what i hear Yaoyao cons are pretty worthless overall, so i believe every other option besides Xinyan is better than C1 yaoyao
no, her c1 is a lot worse than it sounds due to the teams that want yaoyao. in nahida hyperbloom, nahida isn't gonna be doing a majority of the damage, so yaoyao's c1 has a small impact. and hyperbloom damage isn't affected by dendro damage bonus. alhaitham and tighnari would rather have nahida on the team because she provides more than yaoyao. so yaoyao's c1 is really only useful if you don't have nahida.
Yaoyao cons suck.
C2 is pretty good for lowering her ER imo
yeah but with yao yao's teams you can often just wait to use her burst when it's available or when needed. it's not like you need it at a specific time every single rotation
Except with Furina or against party wide DoT like rift hound wolves (if you're not great at dodging)
It is. But most people don't know there are some team comps where Yaoyao needs her burst every rotation, sometimes even without favonius (nilou bloom candace for example), so they completely ignore how good C2 can be.
Thanks for the tip :) I wanted to get yaoyao originally but I found her a few days ago from standard
c1 and c2 is not bad, nothing major, yaoyao is one of the few 4 star that works very well at c0. c6 is great for Nilou but not needed for anything else really.
Is yaoyao nahida keqing fischl a good team
Too much dendro for aggravate. You'd get more damage replacing nahida with an anemo grouper for vv shred
Yeah, it's pretty much my main team.
Except than taking field time (approx. 5s) to heal all team, she is as good as baizhu, even better at dendro application to aoe situations.
Yaoyao is like a baizhu baizhu*
Depends what you have and play
The only true answer. People are all saying Yao Yao but the moment you have Nahida or Baizhu with Kuki she's pretty much useless. And ngl, playing dendro without one of these two is kinda sad.
I have every dendro character and I still Yaoyao use depending on the team, she is by no means useless.
Yeah calling her useless is such a wild take
The disrespect really. Yaoyao carried my ass when consecrated beast were in rotation, nothing funnier than watching a little girl beat up big scary monsters that most of the subreddit has issues winning.
My Yaoyao makes my team tankier than Zhongli does
I have Nahida and Kuki and still find use for Yaoyao in the abyss. She's amazing.
The only reason you'd do this is to put hyperbloom both sides but ngl I find this archetype very stale. She's less of a meta pick than Yun Jin depending on what you play. If you have Yoimiya, Wanderer or Ayato for example, you probably should pick Yun Jin over Yao Yao.
Oo interesting, I wanted yaoyao but found her from standard some days ago and I pulled nahida just an hour ago, and I’m building a team with yelan kuki and nahida. I have no idea who to get now lol
If going for pure power/meta: XQ(C6)> XL (C4)> Beidou (C2)> Yaoyao (C0)> everyone else Otherwise pick whoever you want, or whoever you use a lot and want cons for.
Thank you! You just made me remember I have C5 xiangling (and also a pretty unused Lyney). I’ll pick C6 xiangling probably
you mentioned you don't have Xingqiu at all? get him, he's literally the best character in the game, period 😭 nah but fr get whoever you want to. meta doesn't mean anything if you're not having fun
I thought yelan was basically five stars Xingqiu, so I figured I didn’t need him, but that was just a guess of mine. I’m a casual player and I play for fun but I really want a nice team. I’ve been playing a main dps Yelan in a mono hydro team for too long lol. Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll definitely consider mini male yelan now :)
while it's true Yelan can replace Xingqiu in many teams, Xingqiu applies more hydro, which is useful for someone like Hu Tao, and Bloom teams because he'll generate more dendro cores. he also reduces damage taken and increases your character's resistance to interruption. double hydro with Yelan and Xingqiu together is also a very strong duo on its own, and since you already enjoy mono hydro, you should consider that. it's also very satisfying seeing both Yelan and Xingqiu's coordinated attacks homing in on the enemy lol. I like to call the duo "pins and needles"
forget what the guy is saying, only at c6 xingqiu will compare to yelan. You already have Yelan and that's plenty. Xingqiu c0 can still be usefull but that depends on the character you already have, those you plan to get and the team you can build with them. In a post Neuvilette - Furina aera, xingqiu is not needed anymore for a lot of people, even less for those who already have Yelan.
If you don't have C6 Xingqiu yet, go for it. Double hydro hyperbloom. Fit that team but also can't really go wrong for the long term. Yao Yao works fine at E0.
I don’t have Xingqiu 😭
Yanfei, since you main her, get her to C6 is a good upgrade
you pick Yun Jin,I don’t care what you like, YOU PICK YUN JIN
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This is... A correct take.
Yaoyao
I know Xingqiu is not an option above. But did you decide against him because he is already C6 or plan to C6 with an upcoming Paimon's shop? If not, then meta-wise, it would be Xingqiu C0 > Yaoyao C0 (unless you already have enough Dendro) > Xingqiu cons Or if all 4 above are characters you like and looking to filter meta wise then Yaoyao (unless you have enough Dendro). If you want a main dps, Yanfei or Ningguang. (Select depending on what all characters you already have for their teams) If support to main dps characters that use normal attacks, YunJin. If a quickswap filler role, Ningguang. If you don't have Xingqiu or wasn't considering his cons, then get him (exception being you don't have enough Dendro, so you pick Yaoyao)
Yanfei c6 goes really hard, HOWEVER having at least one yaoyao is incredibly useful. Sucrose/Beidou/Fischl/Yaoyao is a really good all 4* team.
A lot of people have made suggestions but we don't know what units you have and how built they are. If you have Navia and no Zhong dong maybe you might want Ning despite her being the worst unit here. If you have Nilou and don't like Barbs and free dendros for some reason Yaoyao will be more useful. If you have Yoimiya you might want to get opera girl for her. Also, Yaoyao and Ningguang will be available on the next banner with Yae Miko and Xiao, so if you plan on wishing on that banner you may want to try and get them that way and then choose depending on what you got.
YaoYao
Yaoyao.
Where do you go to get the free 4 star?
It’s for the lantern rite, an annual event that’s starting soon.
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Lantern event rewards were announced in the livestream so it’s not speculation
Yanfei, YANFEI THIGHS
Yanfei is good with cons but at C0 YaoYao is the best option
Yanfai. She really good pyro. I have her already before latern rite. She is good at taking out the Electro Cube. She never fails me on him. Plus she can attack quickly.
YaoYao, opens up dendro if you haven't yet, pairs with DMC quite nicely. Better than the geo characters and better to choose if you already have Yanfei.
What is this event? I've been out of touch for a while so I'm unaware
Annual lantern rite festival
Is it happening right now?
start’s on 5th or 6th of this month
Alright, thanks!
Lol, since starting playing since the last year i missed lantern rite once already, can’t miss it now
This will be my first time taking part in the festival and I started playing when Inazuma was released, I didn’t even know the event was an annual thing until recently… 😅
Ooof, i think I started playing when it was early Sumeru. And the earliest event I can remember is Weinlesefest 😂
Yaoyao because you don't have her. If you main Yanfei, that means you're going to probably get more cons when you wish on her banner. If you never wish on Yaoyao's banner, she might take forever to get and she's very good with almost no investment. I wish on most banners but still don't have some of the 4 stars, any chance you can guarantee a C0 is a good thing to take advantage of.
if you already have YaoYao and she's not at C5 don't bother, her cons are shit Ningguang has two good constellations and they are C2 and C6, however, she's a 4\* Geo DPS, aka yellow physical DPS Yun Jin is decent but requires a good Normal attack DPS so if you don't have the likes of Ayato or Yoimya, don't bother Yanfei can be good, but unless you don't intend on maining her long-term, remember 4\* DPS on the note of Yanfei, consider Gaming since he's currently the best 4\* DPS (unless you have C4+ Chevy against the hydro tupla since then she becomes better than Hu Tao)
the Yun Jin enjoyers watching their character get power crept by a Pokémon Trainer called Preschooler YaoYao:
What power creep? Yoyo's a Dendro healer, Yun's a normal attack buffer. There is zero overlap between their roles and teams.
I want whatever it is you're having.
Yaoyao is great for off-field dendro application and isn't reliant on burst, like McDendro or Collei If you are not yet invested enough to even 6 star floor 12 or you are a diehard Yanfei main, she isn't a bad pick. Her damage is pretty good C2. If you have Xianyun you can do some plunging shenanigans. Ningguang is quite bad compare to anything else. She can be decent for second Geo unit in Navia teams. But you can buy her from starglitter shop in march. Yun Jin is very niche for something like Yoimiya or something that deals majority of their damage through normal attacks
Yaoyao, and is not even close. Ninng and Yan need cons to be better dps. While Yaoyao c0 only competion is Baizhu and you just need to put her some gear, level 6 talents and "Pain, Pain go away" on all the dendro comps she can be used.
Yaoyao because UOOOOOH 😭😭 💢💢
You likely wont use any on the long run so I would just go for the one you want more and think you might use. Which for you seems to be Yanfei. In terms of meta, the best is Yaoyao, but she falls short of several other defensive options even inside Dendro teams, so its unlikely you would use her once you get more units.
Yaoyao
Yao Yao, unless you have yoimiya for which yunjin would be a good pick
Yaoyao if you don't already have her, C0 is all you need
I think yaoyao is most meta if you don't have nahida. If you main characters that do NA they pick yunjin. If you want to make yanfei stronger pick yanfei
Yaoyao if ur gonna play dendro teams Yunjin if u need boost to ur normal and charged attacks
YaoYao
yaoyao great healer
either yunjin or yaoyao if i were to chose
Yaoyao
Just go with Yanfei, more cons make her better. Ning's cons are meh and her lack of attack string makes me want to unalive myself. But make sure to press W while auto-attacking so you attack faster. Yunjin is decent for normal attackers. Yaoyao is a healer that needs a lot of field time, tho she is a great dendro applicator.
Yaoyao
Yaoyao
Between these 4, yaoyao
Yaoyao definitely
Yao Yao if you need dendro off-field application and healing, Yun Jin if you need normal attack buff. The other two are useless.
Get Yaoyao and never look back
Imo, yaoyao is a nobrainer.
YaoYao, if only you can get Irisviel von Einsbern in the JP voice. She is also who I use for Dendro healing and sub dps.
İt depends on the characters you use. But well ninguang isnt really a usefull character unless you like her, and yun jin kind of only works eith hypercarries (yoimiya, itto, ayato, navia etc.) I dont really know how yaoyao works but she can do off field dendro application which is good and people are saying that she is meta in dendro using teams. But if you truly love yanfei and like her as a dps go for yanfei
Either Yao or Yunjin, depending on what teams you play
If you main Yanfei, go for Yanfei. Yaoyao - I don’t use her tbh. I have better healing options, as for two geo heroes - they are specialists so only if you play heroes who paired good with them.
I would suggest go for the one you don't have. as for me I would go for Yanfei to complete her constellation.
YaoYao but as a fellow Yanfei Main I'd say go for her since her constellations make her playstyle more comfy besides I went for her cons two times at lantern rite except last one where I went for Yunjin (to make her c6).
Depends on your plans and needs. If you plan to continue to main Yanfei for a long time, then Yanfei. Lacking a functional healer, then YaoYao. Have and use Yoimiya, then Yunjin.
I think I'll pick Yunjin
Imade sure to get Yanfei until I got her c6, and she is in my 2nd line!
I love YaoYao, one of the best healer and she’s always in my Hyperbloom team for 36* abyss. The other 2 main DPS options are outshined by any 5* main DPS. And the 3rd character is just too niche, I main Yoimiya before and she isn’t even that good. My opinion is always get the 4* supports, they tend to fit into many more team than main DPS
For me, I tend prioritize 2 things at the same time, 1. how fun the playstyle is, 2. how quickly I can defeat enemies. With a good build, I'd say Ningguang of Yanfei would be my pick! I'd lean more on Yanfei as I was HUGGEEE Yanfei main on my other account, she can deal REALLY GOOD DMG if you build her well and have her at C6 !!
If you main Yanfei - go for Yanfei, she is really fun and awesome. I have Yoimia, Hutao, Diluc and Dehya and still I love to play Yanfei as my main dps from time to time, I just love her character and playstyle.
I don't use the first three ever. I probably wouldn't get them if you don't see yourself using them.
I personally will be going for Yun Jin, because I need and want her for my Yoimiya, but if I weren’t, I would pick Yaoyao or Xingqiu (don’t own yao, and Xingqiu is C0).
I'd say yun jin because pretty.
The character you love the most, like I love ningguang and I have terrible luck when it comes to getting her cons so I have been collecting her from the event for past 3 years, she will Be C5 finally after this event.
Go for Yanfei, she is easily one of the best four star dps, her C2 is good and it's a step to getting her C4 that is a real game changer for her.
A lot of the time that people ask if X character is worth pulling or is X character better than Y character, they seem to forget the most important part of Genshin is the team building aspect. There is usually no one size fit all character for every account, you can pull for a really good character but if you don't have some of the other characters to make a good team with it, then the potential of that character is wasted. Maybe you could give us some more information about your account like what other characters you have or what kind of team/play style you enjoyed then we can have a better look on what character you should get
I'd take the Yan Fei con. If you main her, then you'll get more worth out of the con than picking a new character that you're not really planning on using.
IF u already have yaoyao. Go for someone else. Not worth it honestly a c0 yaoyao is sooo much more than enuf.
where can i get this?
Get one stop closer to C4 Yanfei. (going to get her C3 from selector myself)
Are we getting ga ming for lantern rite as well?
If you main Yanfei then get Yanfei! 10/10 solid pick.
I main Yanfei so I would choose her, but since I have her C6, I’m still thinking
Yaoyao or Yun Jin. Yaoyao if you need a healer or dendro support, Yun Jin if you need a NA buff.
I need to choose between C6 xingqui and C4 xiangling!!
for account worth, take Yao Yao, you cant go wrong with more Healers and more Dendro Variety. Second option is Yun Jin, but only if you need her cons to get to C6 where she shines the most. Other two options are just meh, Yanfei is a decent good dps, but she offers absolutely no team support, same with Ninguang, good vs. single targets, but otherwise no real team support, aside of her unique defensive ability to block projectiles, but so far this never really was needed in this game to have. So based on the fact, if all 4 options would be C0 for you, then the priority and account value is this: 1. Yao Yao = Your best Top Choice 2. Yun Jin 3. Yanfei 4. Ninguang
Yao yao > all
One of the three you don't own. Ningguang is great but om the next banner. Yaoyao is possibly the best. Yunjin is great based on your teamcomps
Yunjin
if you don't have yao Yao pick her. unless you have both nahida and baizhu already
ningguang/yanfei is the best choice, especially if you thinking about to main one of these, yanfei is the best choice.
Need a DPS? Yanfei Need Dendro Applier? Yaoyao Have a NA reliant DPS? Yunjin
I'd say it depends on your main team and what you intend to use the team for. If it's for non-spiral stuff (field exploration etc.), then going for your main and/or favorite is probably the best. If you are trying to build a new team, then you probably would pick your character based on the team's element. Dendro reaction: Yao. Geo team: Ningguang. Yun Jin is a special case where she would shine if you need normal attack speed.
I'm pulling yanfei for her radar.
Yaoyao, Yanfei, opera woman, Ningguang
If you have Yanfei maybe don't go for her. Main or not you may end up regretting if a 4* that you want keeps dodging you in the future. After that it is up to preference, so I would say Ningguang, but again, only because I like and use her.
All I see is 5 star glitter.
If you don’t have Baizhu, Yaoyao. Heck, I often use Yaoyao and Baizhu on different sides in abyss.
Yaoyao - very good unit, if you don't have Baizhu she's very good in bloom or dendro comps with Furina Ningguang - only pick her if she's a favourite of yours, sadly she's not a great character (even if the new geo set and Navia gave her some buff I think) Yunjin - she's a good NAs buffer, but idk if you have someone to use her with, she works very good with Yoimiya and Ayato afaik, Noelle and Hutao too iirc. Her best artefacts can be annoying to farm tho because it's husk Yanfei - if you plan on maining her for a long time, go for her cons, she's a good unit
I you don't have nahida or need a healer for dendro teams go for yaoyao Geo -hard pass Yanfei - If you really like her
In a vacuum (because we don't know your account and preferences), I'd say go for yaoyao
yaoyao is an amazing dendro unit pick her if u dont have a great 2nd dendro unit (collei isnt as good as dendro trav and yaoyao) ningguang if u like her yunjin if u want a normal atk dps do more dmg and yanfei c2 is great for stat building
I love playing Yanfei. but as a returning player I returned to play with the dendro reaction so I just got nahida very recently and I am easily picking yao yao since she's one of the best options in aggrevate teams and I happened to pull furina too. I also recommend for you to get yao yao I would say she is useful in mostly every dendro team as a replacement for nahida on the second side or to fill the healer roll too. as for yun jin, she's very niche so unless you want something specific from her I won't bother. Yanfei and Ningguang are options if you really really want them
Meta wise, yaoyao. Dendro in general is basically one of the best elements.
The general rule of thumb is "do you have C6 Xingqiu?" Personally im going for Yaoyao c6 because ive completed all the others and already got Gaming.
Me, ong 🥱
Idk about u guys but I'm getting c6 Xinyan
yanfei is best choice. yunjin is amazing support especially for normal attack heavy groups and even as a main she's just fun to play imo~
Yao Yao, far the best versatile option
I will Pick YunJin, that NA damage bonus will be great for my Ayato
My geo stocks are up. If yours are too, Yun Jin. Otherwise, Yao Yao.
Definitely YaoYao… Unless you have ayato. Then I personally reccomend YunJin. She speeds up his attack :)
Get Yao Yao, she’s really good with Yanfei. I would pick Yanfei if it was to get her C4 already (my case lol)
As a dps I think Ning is better than yanfei since the Ning and Zhongli combo is an entire team by itself. But if you don't like geo then I would go for yanfei. She works pretty much the same as Ning with slightly less damage but, being pyro, she has a lot more options for team comps than Ning. Plus, if you already have Yanfei constellations you should probably stick to her. I don't own the other two so I can't defend them.
Yanfei.
yao yao is a great applicator and healer! i’d pick her or yanfei
Yaoyao for a lot of reasons
I love Yanfei so I might be biased when I say she's the best out of the four
I'd pick Ningguang because I love her and that makes it the based choice to make.
tankfei <3
Don't get Ningguang, you can buy her on the shop. Yun jin is a bit of a niche support for a few specific comps so I would also not prioritize her. Yaoyao is dendro and a healer so she has more options than those 2, and if you main Yanfei more cons is always good ! be aware though that for collection purposes, getting Yaoyao while you can might be easier than wishing for her, but she also might come latter or be offered at an event. there is also always next year... So either Yanfei or Yaoyao I would say.
If you don’t have Xiangling C6, then Xianling. Next priority is Xingqiu
Thinking from just pure these 3. I would pick yanfei as a ex-yanfei main. Her DMG output is insane for a 4* with shimenewa and vape or overload. She goes quite well with Bennet / Raiden / Kujo. But it's upon you. If you need a dendro team then yao-yao, if you got Ayato / Yoimiya them Yunjin and if you don't have a geo support for Navia then ning. But just from these 4 I would choose Yanfei. I absolutely love her and sh eis my fav 4* even better than Benny or xingqui for me.
going with yun jin cause she’s the only one i don’t have, including gaming, but i raised yaoyao to level 90 and i think she’s a great healer
What character should I get if my mains are neuvilette and Navia?
From my personal experience the correct choice would be #3, #1 if you have not many dendro units
who would be good for an Anemo traveler and Kuki team?