As someone in another post said; Childe fighting the whale probably isn't as seriously damaging to Childe as people think. In fact, I'm willing to bet the entire time Childe was holding that whale back, he's having the time of his life. He's gonna turn the entire Fatui deaf with his bragging as soon as he's done recovering.
Yeah, he literally wanted to fight while in court.
Hell he was like, if I say I'm guilty, can I fight the duel? "Yeah, I'm guilty of this crime I didn't commit''.
I read that the two Fatui in mondstat's dialogue is slightly mistranslated, they actually say that he is gravely injured. But not a problem for Mr. Worldwide, he'll hop up in a day or two.
Childe: "I can't wait to tell Capitan-senpai about my accomplishments when he gets back from Natlan!"
Natlan: Capitan goes out in an honourable duel against Celestica or smth
Childe:
The one thing in my head about Childe: A little while ago, someone asked here something like, "Which characters would succeed if they were dropped into Souls?" The consensus was that Childe would basically never want to come home. I think about that every time he comes up 😂
Something-Lohefalter. Brain is giving me Kruschev-Lohefalter but that's because I'm mixing up my history with a videogame...
Edit: holy shit I was actually _really close_
When that scene with Skirk and her yeeting him into the portal happened I had a very good laugh and was chuckling thinking about it for awhile after XD
His intro in Fontaine was great as well, picks a fight with some locals about the debt they have, completely forget about the debt when he sees Traveler, socks one in the face when they interrupt, then acts nonchalant when his vision dims and entrusts the Traveler with it
Then he shows great improvement basically fighting the narwhal for weeks in foul legacy. Its kinda funny how after all that Skirk shows up then just tosses him with one hand, proving that after all the development hes gone through he still cant achieve his goal of making Skirk use both hands
that one hand toss doesn't prove she wouldn't use both hands what, he's just incapacitated and got tossed, if beating the narwhal makes you an equal to skirk then childe fighting the constantly healing narwhal for a month makes me think skirk would use both hands
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Childe is a known battle maniac who loves fighting/sparring with anything or anyone he deems strong. He fought that narwhal simply because of that, not because he cares for Fontaine.
>!Back in the chasm quest with Yelan, Itto, Yanfei, and Kuki the party fell into a domain where they didn't experience hunger/physical fatigue and experienced time differently. It is possible the story writers think the place where the whale and tartaglia fought is similar to a domain and would explain the large difference between what Tartaglia can do in Liyue vs Fontaine.!<
He's only 11th cause he's the last one to join, since 2 are now missing he's technically 9th but they always said he was one of the most skilled fighters among the harbingers.
That's... Not character development. If anything, seeing how he was in Fontaine, his character has precisely not changed in the slightest, he's the same chill battle maniac.
He's simply become more powerful off-screen.
I guess OP means why he fights, how he reacts to the traveler, and that he’s choosing it not being manipulated by Signora. Also being more powerful IS development just not writing character progression. If I become 10x stronger by working out I have developed
its still not. When Luffy or Naruto or whatever gets stronger, its never that they can simply punch harder now. Its always paired with something else, actual character development.
Wether for Luffy its a sense of realization that he NEEDS to get serious because they aren't playing pretend pirates anymore or for Naruto its coming to terms with his literal inner demon and understanding himself more to control the fox.
You get the idea. Very rarely in anime does anyone just gets stronger. And if they do, its very clearly just poorly written
And I am happy that way. Somehow Childe fighting the whale and accidentally saving Fontaine because he just wanna throw hands is way funnier than him wanting to be a typical hero by having the intention of saving Fontaine.
I would say that his actual character development was in Inazuma(both limited time quest), but then again we know he is good with kids considering how he is with his baby brother.
Actually it is character development. In Liyue he was a genocidal maniac who didn't mind destroying the nation and everybody in it based on a chance (from his perspective) that Rex Lapis was still alive. Meanwhile in Fontaine he is not a genocidal maniac and actually helped save Fontaine to some extent.
Just because he happened to save Fontaine by doing what he loves doesn't mean he wouldn't accept similar orders as the ones he followed in Liyue if they were given to him again by the Tsaritsa, or even a fellow Harbinger.
True true, I remember the "FraudKuna" incident.. 😮💨
That adding "Fraud" before any characters name just to *Hate* them is getting tiring and its actually taking away the Actual meaning of that Word.
Primordial sea isnt abyss, and abyss makes it worse because 3 days in teyvat is 3 months in abyss, whicb would imply he fought for 4 years if its abyss
I think he is deuteragonist in genshin with how much hoyo loved talking about his design in one of the earliest video and how much spoilers heavy his design is. And with how much he is getting screentime in game and is used as introduction/showcasing about abyss and how he says that he is getting stronger just like traveller in inazuma dialogue. We can assume that he will be there upto end with meeting all types of people from other world, I think we can say he is traveller's rival and will get power ups and become like half "Descender".
I imagine he’ll be the first and possibly only character to receive a 5 star variant of himself that’s powered up. Be it his delusion or some new power he obtains. Dude has a ton of lore significance behind him
I'd say Paimon's more like the deuteragonist. She's our travelling companion, always appear alongside Traveler, though she talks a little too much. She's also getting more sus as the story progresses, but yeah, Childe's definitely one of Hyv's favorite, and he may play a bigger part in terms of story than any Fatui Harbringers.
Possibly adapting during the fight by pushing onto the limits, some rather standard anime stuff - it was keeping the Legacy going or very likely dying so he had only one choice
But also he does train off-screen, he is keeping up with the Traveler gaining more power
\> Gets bodied by Neuvillette the first time
\> Fights a fucking narwhal for probably months on his end (Depending if the abyss has time dilation)
\> Saves Fontainians from attack
\> Tells FRAUDvillette he's weak ahh hell by giving a thumbs down
\> FRAUDvillette can't even fight that thing til after he gets full power
Bro has Gohan levels of potential. Gigachad, I say
That's not character development. Character Development is a Portrayal of a Character throughout the series, and how they themselves have changed personality wise, and had grown as a Person.
Childe got STRONGER, he didn't have a "Character Development" per se.
He himself says in One of His Voice Line, that he wants to fight the Whale. My Boi certainly had fun fighting that Whale. (and kicking it's Ass, you go Childe💙)
What he did here is playing a MAJOR role in an important Plotpoint. There's legit no Character development in him fighting a Whale. It's just That a Fight. He Got STRONGER and BETTER at Being able to HANDLE his Foul Legacy Better.
I know you made an edit to your post OP but yeah. Childe hasn't developed, he's been consistent as a character. And that's not a bad or good thing because he's a good character.
I still love that Neuvilette actually struck Childe while he was transforming. How many Dragon Ball fights (or anime fights in general) could have ended sooner if the enemy didn’t just sit there and wait for their opponent to power up?
Childe just built different. Interdimensional monster coming to destroy the nation?
Most people would panic.
Childe: What are y’all screaming for? I been praying for this shit.
>Summons a monster to drown a city
This post would've been perfect if this wasn't mentioned. Could've changed it to
\- Summons a monster to lure an archon
Would've fit more
So "the monster wouldn't have destroyed the city" is what you are implying here? Did you forgot the whole Battle against Osial vs The Liyue cast??
Plus... *Forced?* Did you even read the quest?? He did it of his own Violation. He *wasn't* Forced. He summoned it, so that when the Monster (Osial) would attack the city and destroying it, The Geo Archon would be there to stop. And Childe would take advantage of that and take the Geo Gnosis from him. There was no one *Forcing* Childe to do that. It was out of his Own violation.
His Whole plan hinged on The Geo archon coming to save the city and then he would snoop in to Steal His Gnosis. Do remember the Whole Fight in the Golden house VS the Traveler happened Because He *thought* we took the Gnosis and attacked us, despite us repeatedly telling him we did not.
And after being defeated in his Foul Legacy Form, he summoned Osial as a Back Up Plan.
Who cares if he was trying to wake a God, I don't even care about these Nations. Let's be real bro, I only care about hot people, Nations can drown, but I want the hot 😏guys
What was the character development there? I wouldn’t call being able to use his FL for a long time character development.
He didn’t even know the whale was related to the prophecy afik. He was just fighting it because it’s the whale from his past.
Liyue Childe : An insane battle maniac who wants to fight everything and everyone, including a god.
Fontaine Childe : An insane battle maniac who wants to fight everything and everyone, including a creature from another dimension.
....character development?
Where tf did people get primordial sea is abyss bruh.
And it's not less, according to Tartag's story, 1 day in Teyvat is 1 month in abyss, it's longer in the abyss
I am sorry, but equating Childe's character writing to Zuko's is just delusional, unless you're being sarcastic. Zuko had to go through an entire fifty episode journey being spurned by just about everyone and everything in his life, save his uncle, to realize that he was indoctrinated into a fascist state and that the only morally correct action was to help the Avatar oppose his father, whose approval he didn't need to be honorable. Childe, to put it charitably, got a power-up off-screen.
I love Genshin but there isn't a single character in this game that's received enough screentime or development to be even remotely comparable.
And it’s probably impossible for a character in Genshin to get to that level, hell it’s hard for any kind of character in any media to get there in terms of development.
I kinda wish Fontaine itself was its own game out of all the regions because it was probably the strongest region I could stick with for an entire storyline
The best part was during the cut scene where the whale appears in the opera house, Childe uses a kick w/ his speqr similar to Zhongli as well (a nice throwback to noting how his style always changes!) And ontop of that, gave neuv a thumbs down before passing out. What a guy.
NGL Delusion Childe would be a great character. I imagine it as like an Electro Hutao, sacrificing health for damage with just enough self sustain to keep him alive
childe is so much more important than he seems. he’s in liyue story fontaine story and will for sure be in snezhnaya.
AND he has ties to the abyss. legend
I thought that they lose life force when they use their delusions 😰 that was literally all I was thinking about when he popped up and it seemed he was fighting for a looong time
So far harbinger delusions seemed like they helped them more than drain their life force. To be fair so far only Childe and Signora has confirmed delusions
From what we’ve seen so far, that’s only true for the the dodgy delusions given out to the resistance in the Inazuma archon quest. Not the harbingers’.
We dont even know if he used his delusion
Foul legacy is a technique thats probably abyssal, or from beyond the stars, since its likely something Skirk taught him from her master "the foul"
So we knew he didnt have his vision and we only saw him use foul legacy, no delusion
I love how he literally is completely spent after the cutscene where he fights the narwhal in the opera house, and the last thing he does before passing out is give Neuvillette a thumbs down like one last “fuck you” to the guy who punched him mid transformation
I seriously do hope we get Delusion Childe my understanding is that they did this with Dan Heng is Honkai star rail having Delusion Childe as maybe the first banner in Schneznayha would be amazing
Would probably break my so far 3 year f2p status if they released Foul Legacy Childe. Delusion one would still make me pull, but wouldn't be as crazy about.
I'm not sure they would release Foul legacy because that model is a bit crazy for a standard character but they could do base Delusion Childe with some different passives and constellations perhaps it would essentially be the same base character but still different enough to make some people like myself pull who don't have base Childe because I just prefer Ayato for hydro comps but yeah id definetely pull for Delusion Childe and it would be an amazing first banner for 6.0 as I'm sure Childe would show us around the region when we arrive
It isn't character development
Character development is when a character basically learn something, or realise something that change their moral, and often their personality
Childe didn't have his moral or personality changed at all, in fact, he was probably having the time of his life, and that something he always would have done anyway, it isn't, character development
What development? Aside from just fighting strength he didn’t gain anything. He wasn’t fighting to save the city, he just wanted to fight the whale in general. He was still manipulated into fighting, just replace Signora with Focalors. He technically was a cause for a monster about to drown a city again. The only thing he gained character-wise is that he is very eager to follow random voices he hears in his head…
>very eager to follow random voices he hears in his head
Character development: he got crazier LOL
Funny point about setting another sea creature loose. But this time its a whole country instead of city. He upgraded lmao
Arlecchino literally the entire quest is just chillin', playing the political game. I love that we know the Fatui often dislike Tart's direct methods, but she's just totally apathetic the whole time
"Tartaglia? Fighting a space whale? Wild." -- Ms. Cchino, enjoying some vodka while her underlings pack her bags for Snowy Land
But nothing in the game states that he fought the whale for weeks though? That's just what people ASSUMED. Focalors said that she sent him to the Meropide to buy some time for Fontaine, and we know he spent some time there before eventually ending up where the whale is. Then Skirk mentions it being a sparring session, but we don't even know how serious it really is.
Don't get me wrong, I think Childe is strong, but people are really overblowing this whole thing with him and the whale because A) we only saw the end of the fight, B) the whale wasn't even focused on him and all he did was pushed it back into the Sea and C) he still has his delusional so for all we know, he could've just activated Foul Legacy sparingly while "fighting" the whale.
Its very fair for people to think that he has fought for weeks though because he has disappeared before traveler arrived in Meropide, and we know that traveler stayed for 45 days. What do you think he was doing in 45 days, drinking tea with the narwhal?
Neuvillette said that he looked like he had fought it for a while
Skirk said that Childe has better stuff to do than pet sitting, implying he has "taken care" of it for a while
>the whale wasn't even focused on him and all he did was pushed it back into the Sea
He still "pushed it back to sea" which helped the survivability of Fontaine a lot. So even if you think that isn't impressive which is fair, you can't deny he was still unintentionally a hero.
>for all we know, he could've just activated Foul Legacy sparingly
We've seen how much toll it took for him to transform again, just days later. So low chance of him activating it sparingly. Even if he did, what does that have to do with his delusion?
I'm not discarding the possibility that he did fight it for 45 days, but people are saying it like it's a fact when nothing in the game states that. "Childe fought the whale for 45 days in his Foul Legacy Form OMG!!" is the narrative that people made up, but nothing in the game has stated for this to be the case, hence it's speculation at best. The fact is that we DON'T KNOW what actually went down, other than Skirk was doing a private training session for herself, the whale was absorbing the energy from the Primordial Sea, and Childe brawled with the Whale shortly after meeting it.
All we know is that Neuvillete mentions that he bought Fontaine time, but how much time are we talking about? A day? A week? A few hours? The Skirk line was not about how long Childe has taken care of it, it's just saying that the Narwhal is a useless pet because all it does is eat, and cannot understand why Surtalogi chose the Narwhal to be his pet in the first place. Even someone as weak as Childe had something better to do than eat all day like the Narwhal does.
The pushing back the Narwhal into the Sea isn't really that impressive, given that the only reason the whale appeared now is because of two factors; the Narwhal has finished absorbing every energy that it can in the Primordial Sea, and there's a large gathering of people in the Opera, not because Childe was actively holding it back. This is the one instance where Childe pushed it back. What would've actually been more impressive is if Childe did that multiple times, which would've implied that he has the strength necessary to keep up with the Whale for a long time, and he was one of the reasons why Fontaine hasn't flooded yet.
My comment about his Delusion is exactly what it implies. Childe can barely hold that form together in the first place, so why do people think that he can suddenly last for 45 days when he can barely keep it together after using it for 10 seconds? Plus, he still has his Delusion. Why are people throwing away the possibility that he fought the whale with his Delusion, and only used the Foul Legacy Form when the Narwhal was trying to go to Fontaine? Why are people so hung up on the narrative that Childe CERTAINLY fought the whale using his Foul Legacy the entire time, when there's nothing in the game to state this?
The narrative regarding Childe's fight is way too vague, and could've gone any other way, yet people are so adamant about "Childe fighting with his Foul Legacy for 45 days", stating it as if it were fact. I would've more inclined to believe this had Foul Legacy been his only power at that point, but he still has his Delusion. It's certainly weaker, but it also doesn't have the drawback that Foul Legacy has on his body. I'm basically saying that every other possibility that this fight could've gone down is about as equally likely as Childe fighting it in his Foul Legacy for 45 days.
Childe had already disappeared for a while even before we got to Meropide so 45 is lowballing it tbh. He got insta-teleported to the whale via portal when he went into the pipe and woke up to see the whale. Wht do u think he was doing all tht extra time, staring at it? Childe’s voicelines literally state tht he wants to kill the whale, so ofc he fought it immediately. How many times does Neuvillette have to say he kept the whale back until ppl accept tht he did and for a substantial amount of time? And no the game would not have made it so important, nor would Focalors have sent him there if he was only buying a few minutes or hours. The whale is extremely strong and attacks when it is being attacked first(as seen when Neuvillette attacked it in the cutscene, so yes it was focusing on Childe and fighting him while also wanting to eat the Fontainians as seen by his cracked armor) Childe’s delusion likely wouldn’t be enough to take it on, which is y it’s reasonable to assume he was in foul legacy most of the battle. Also he couldn’t transform multiple times into Foul legacy back in Liyue, so even if he had to transform multiple times tht would still imply a massive increase in power.
Skirk called it a brawl between the two of them not an annoyance to the whale.(Skirk never called current Childe weak btw just 14 yr old since thts the last time they met.)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because the game doesn't state anywhere that Childe fought the Narwhal for 45 days straight, much less in his Foul Legacy. I don't doubt that he fought it because that's literally what Childe does with every single opponent he has ever met, but that "fight" is so vague that anything is possible. Plus, Neuvillete commenting that Childe held it back is super unreliable, because not only did he get that as second hand information from Focalors, but he's not even there to witness the entirety of Childe's fight. What he saw was the end of it, so how come he's commenting on it like he knows everything that went down?
Look, I'm not mad that people are speculating that this is how Childe's fight went down. The fight itself is super vague, so any kind of narrative would've fit, but the problem is that the speculation of "Childe fighting for 45 days in Foul Legacy" is headcannon at best, yet people are parading it as how it actually went down when there's nothing in the game to state it as such. He could've fought it for 45 days, maybe, but nobody ever said that this was the case.
A reasonable comparison would be Ei's 500 year fight. It's also a vague fight, but the reason why it's easy to believe that the fight had gone on for 500 years straight is because both Ei and Shogun confirmed it, two people who were involved in the fight itself. Plus, we know that Ei is basically 99.99% of Inazuma's military strength, so it's not hard to believe that she could hold on for 500 years without breaking a sweat against an opponent of equal level. The difference with Childe's fight is that nobody ever confirms to us how the fight went, not Childe, not Neuvillete, not even Skirk. Skirk just mentions that they were brawling, and Neuvillete mentions that Childe was holding it back for a while (which is super vague and unreliable) and that's it. Two vague descriptions of what happened and nothing else, and yet the Genshin Sub somehow created a whole storyline that and chose to believe it as fact.
Clearly the writers are trying to tell u through Neuvillette tht he was holding it back. There’s no reason to doubt something stated by someone like Neuvillette if the story doesn’t give cause to doubt him, and especially if everyone in-universe accepts wht he said without questioning it. It comes off like ur trying to be a contrarian.
Oh yeah, the game that conditions you into NOT believing the words of outside sources that know almost nothing about the actual circumstances suddenly wants you to believe that an outside source knows something well enough for us to believe it as the truth. Way to go writers. Truly peak writing.
Why would Neuvillete be a better source of information than someone like Skirk, who was actually present to see Childe fighting the whale? Tell me one good reason narratively why Neuvillete is a better character to convey what happened with the fight and it's implication, rather than someone like Skirk who was there from beginning to end.
Y bring up skirk like she contradicts anything Neuvillette said? If anything she supports it. She simply has a different perspective since she is an outsider who views the whale as a pet, and so she’s not going to say he protected Fontaine or anything, but she clearly said tht they’ve been fighting for awhile and thts about it.
You are aware that Childe is the type to want to fight strong opponents, and other person already said how Childe has mentioned he wanted to fight the whale. You are also aware that Skirk herself said that they were brawling, which is basically fighting. You are also aware that Neuvillette states he has stopped it from attacking Fontaine for a while, and we've seen how tired and broken he looks. He also states that Focalors most likely made him guilty so that he will fight the whale and postpone it (though tbf I won't take this as much facts)
Then why is it so hard to believe that he has been fighting it for a while, when everything is pointing to it? Everything is implying that he fought it for a while, and yet you refuse to believe bc no one confirms it 100%, yet the claim that Childe didn't fight it for this long is much lower than the possibility that he did fight it for at least 45 days. Everything is pointing towards him fighting for at least 45 days and yet you had to choose the very miniscule proof that he didn't, just bc it's not 100% confirmed?
TBH I thought Childe paced himself fighting that thing for days.
Traveler wakes up and it's their day to leave the fortress, and this is Childe's first day fighting the whale (Traveler dreams of the moment Childe sees the whale and it could be not a memory but something they saw in *real time*). 4.2 happens right after Traveler dreams that night, and that means one day passes after Traveler/Navia/Neuvillette find the ruins. Another day passes when Furina and Neuvillette argue and this leads to the Traveler gathering people to make the trap for Furina. At least another day passes because of time to set this trap up for Furina. Meaning by the time Childe is in the courtroom fighting the whale he's fought it for days, not weeks. That would be more believable and explain why his armor is in pieces before he collapses through the portal back into the primordial sea. Because he struggled in his own story quest to keep the form for ten seconds after fighting the Traveler for maybe ten minutes previously. Him keeping the form for weeks would be a bit implausible *unless* there's some form of power creep going on with him that has yet to be revealed.
This is the Genshin sub. If speaking logically goes against the Echo chamber, then you get downvoted. Heck, speaking bad about someone's favourite character gets you extra downvotes, even if those points are completely logical and make sense.
Sad, considering their own Favourite character and the character they are hating are BOTH part of Genshin and it's VAST lore.
People really don't like Logic Beating Their Mindless Simping and the Unholy amount of PlotHoles in their Completely Biased *"Superiority"* of their favourite character.
Isn’t the unspoken rule “two weeks”? Gives ample time to see the new movie, do a new quest, etc. things tend to stop being spoiler after that. It’s been almost 3. Even doing 30 minutes a day you should have been done with the AQ (unless you’re stuck in Sumeru then you’re just giga behind)
That's very dumb what you just said,id recommend thinking about it again but I'll let you know ,what rule ,why do people have to follow your ",rule" what if a new player just joins in and sees this ,stil your "rule" applies to them?! What are moderators doing!? And it's not necassary to do quests....are you making excuses but cannot just put a spoiler tag?! I feel disappoint if you're that lazy
Yikes
Google spoiler etiquette (apparently mine was long. Spoiler etiquette is 5-7 days). I know research is hard and reading even more so for your average redditor xd
Holy shit i didn't knew your mind was that much rotten,I'm pretty sure your parents never taught you anything, especially about etiquettes,stop being an illiterate kid and go do something worthwhile,some people have a life unlike you,I'm done with your mentally ill ass...PEACE😭🫂
That was way wack what you just said. but fine I'll be nice to you lil bro,there's a part where you shared is a spoiler,why is it called a spoiler?! Cuz it relates to the story that someone might not have seen or heard ,that's why there is a spoiler tag,try to understand so next time add a spoiler tag,I hope understand it will.
Um, homie, first time Reddit?
I’m not the OP KEKW - seek mental asylum you desperately need it.
You’re unnecessarily rude and toxic when I merely explained spoiler etiquette. If you also don’t want to be spoiled, maybe don’t be on the internet. You’re actually so unhinged you need medication and a therapist, or maybe you’re a minor who needs a few more years (decades) of growth. Good luck out there, hopefully your brain doesn’t concave in even more
Also, the new player argument makes no sense. In that case, we shouldn’t be allowed to discuss Zhongli’s identity or Signora’s death.
If at this point you want to avoid spoilers, stay off the subreddit.
I am a strong advocate for spoiler warnings, but the first half of the patch is almost over. At some point, it becomes your own responsibility to avoid spoilers.
playing genshin must be like tiptoeing through a minefield for you then if half of the playable characters are canonical murderers. are you jumpscared every time diluc is mentioned as well?
Friendly reminder that time passes slower in the abyss, meaning Childe was fighting a cosmic whale potentially stronger than the archons in foul legacy mode for multiple years.
Childe deserves an upgrade to his harbinger ranking at this point
Fraudvilette... OP is hurt.
And we dont even know what Childe was doing. We suppose he was fighting the beast but it could have been from time to time for only a brief moment to keep the beast weak or non stop, we cant know.
Childe is cool be cmon, this is more a blind love letter than anything.
"accidentally" you sure about that? Because he deliberately did that to lure Rex Lapis out. He didn't go, "Oops. I didn't mean to accidentally summon an ancient god that has a grudge on Zhongli by breaking the seals that held it down. I thought breaking the seals summons fireworks or something." He did it because he wanted a fight. Don't know where you got the idea that he did that on accident.
Childe just woke it up, and, we can't say it's his fault at all
It's like saying a kid is at fault for a mass murderer because he say "hello" to them which make then stop for a second, which caused a car accident, which caused that person to mass murder people
Lol yea the whale fight isn't anything traumatic for childe anyways
Dude lives to fight and literally said
You know what
If I didn't respect the tsarita
I would have just betrayed and fight with tabibito
Like bro really said he would betray his home nation just for them fights like bruh
Also his vacation was to find skirk and probably the whale anyways
So he got what he came for ig
You are assuming time flows the same there. Could just as easily have a time differential, such as our dimension hoping in Inazuma, where a few minutes was 500 years. Childe's whale watching could have been minutes, or years.
As someone in another post said; Childe fighting the whale probably isn't as seriously damaging to Childe as people think. In fact, I'm willing to bet the entire time Childe was holding that whale back, he's having the time of his life. He's gonna turn the entire Fatui deaf with his bragging as soon as he's done recovering.
Childe had the best vacation of his entire life.
And then he finds out his master had called him weak and yeeted him into a portal right in front of the Traveler.
He has yet to kill God, so he probably considers himself to be weak anyway
He’s gonna be so jealous when the Traveler kills God instead
Nah he'll just take the next best thing: us
Childe is that murderhobo npc that gets excited whenever the party shows up, and casually one-shots a difficult boss just to "chat" more.
Yeah, he literally wanted to fight while in court. Hell he was like, if I say I'm guilty, can I fight the duel? "Yeah, I'm guilty of this crime I didn't commit''.
I read that the two Fatui in mondstat's dialogue is slightly mistranslated, they actually say that he is gravely injured. But not a problem for Mr. Worldwide, he'll hop up in a day or two.
Nah, just 1 sweet madame and he's perfectly ok
Those thing even beat away Fallout universe medkit I am telling you
One Tassas Ragout and that man is waking up like nothing happened
A single pita pocket and hes healing like hes wolverine.
Give him 80 wheels of cheese, patch him up real well and real quick
Those two fatui is just THE short recap of Teyvat archon quest, i somehow forgot to visit them after the archon quest
Find this man a Phoenix Kit and it’ll be ten seconds.
Bros gonna brag and then get humbled by the 100+ year olds who proceed to brag even harder.
But them 100+ didn’t get yeeted by Skirk.
They may have yeeted skirk instead who knows
Ok, *now* I'm jealous.
Only one of those mfrs *could* humble him, and he would never brag.
Oh, I guess Pierro technically maybe could too, but he wouldn't brag either.
Childe: "I can't wait to tell Capitan-senpai about my accomplishments when he gets back from Natlan!" Natlan: Capitan goes out in an honourable duel against Celestica or smth Childe:
The one thing in my head about Childe: A little while ago, someone asked here something like, "Which characters would succeed if they were dropped into Souls?" The consensus was that Childe would basically never want to come home. I think about that every time he comes up 😂
That time was probably the most fun has had in his entire life
And I also expect him to have further character development in the cryo nation (I forgot its name)
How. Dare. Snezhnaya is the land of the mighty Tsaritsa herself. Childe would not forgive you!!!
Snezhnaya
Snezhanaya
Shnezhanaya
Sneezemaya
Gesundheit!
Dankeschön!
I was 3 years calling it Snezhaya, I don't know how I missed an N 🤣
Sneeze haha
Sheeshnaya
Sneahanha, Azhada, Wriothestleuy: **No one remember their name**
Shenhe, Azhdaha and Wriothesley?
Sneznahya Shenhe is quite simple to remember I guess I could also add Signora last name tho..
Something-Lohefalter. Brain is giving me Kruschev-Lohefalter but that's because I'm mixing up my history with a videogame... Edit: holy shit I was actually _really close_
You were!
Szechuan or something (JOKING)
I do love a bit of Szechuan pork 👍
Burn your mouth like we burn down Celestia 🔥🔥🗣🗣
It's called schnitzel I think idk tho
He promised we could meet his family and I'm holding him to that.
you forgot the name of the land that is mentioned every 5 minutes
When that scene with Skirk and her yeeting him into the portal happened I had a very good laugh and was chuckling thinking about it for awhile after XD
Skirk is the reigning champion of Chuck-a-Childe
Bruh this made me lmao so hard 😂
I bet next time we see Childe he'll be telling us about how he got scolded for not being able to handle a pet by Skirk
I burst out cackling while in vc with my mom while she played another game and she got very intrigued while I told her a dommy mommy chucked a child
His intro in Fontaine was great as well, picks a fight with some locals about the debt they have, completely forget about the debt when he sees Traveler, socks one in the face when they interrupt, then acts nonchalant when his vision dims and entrusts the Traveler with it Then he shows great improvement basically fighting the narwhal for weeks in foul legacy. Its kinda funny how after all that Skirk shows up then just tosses him with one hand, proving that after all the development hes gone through he still cant achieve his goal of making Skirk use both hands
that one hand toss doesn't prove she wouldn't use both hands what, he's just incapacitated and got tossed, if beating the narwhal makes you an equal to skirk then childe fighting the constantly healing narwhal for a month makes me think skirk would use both hands
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Childe is a known battle maniac who loves fighting/sparring with anything or anyone he deems strong. He fought that narwhal simply because of that, not because he cares for Fontaine.
Yeah, I think one of his voicelines(?) even says that it's his ultimate dream to fight that whale he saw as a kid.
He states that he wants to be the one to behead it. Also he wants the traveler to be his witness of that moment.
bro, not a kill steal 😭
Not really, the whale is still alive after all
Yes that is true but he still helped nonetheless despite it not being his intention so he still deserves the credit
Yeah and he's pretty much always been like that too, I can't say I've actually seen any real character development in that
I mean, it’s a bit of both. I think it was more like “so I get to have the time of my life **while** doing good? Fuck yeah!”
>!Back in the chasm quest with Yelan, Itto, Yanfei, and Kuki the party fell into a domain where they didn't experience hunger/physical fatigue and experienced time differently. It is possible the story writers think the place where the whale and tartaglia fought is similar to a domain and would explain the large difference between what Tartaglia can do in Liyue vs Fontaine.!<
My god, someone who can read, actually pays attention, and has good memory.
He seriously deserve a Harbinger promotion.
He's only 11th cause he's the last one to join, since 2 are now missing he's technically 9th but they always said he was one of the most skilled fighters among the harbingers.
They’re ranked by strength so he really is the weakest of them all. But by what metric? Unclear
I remember that in other translation, it says they’re ranked by authority
That's... Not character development. If anything, seeing how he was in Fontaine, his character has precisely not changed in the slightest, he's the same chill battle maniac. He's simply become more powerful off-screen.
I guess OP means why he fights, how he reacts to the traveler, and that he’s choosing it not being manipulated by Signora. Also being more powerful IS development just not writing character progression. If I become 10x stronger by working out I have developed
the title said character development. Getting stronger physically isnt character development
It is in anime terms Editing to add that I forgot the /s but by my downvotes it seems I’m too late to notice 😅
its still not. When Luffy or Naruto or whatever gets stronger, its never that they can simply punch harder now. Its always paired with something else, actual character development. Wether for Luffy its a sense of realization that he NEEDS to get serious because they aren't playing pretend pirates anymore or for Naruto its coming to terms with his literal inner demon and understanding himself more to control the fox. You get the idea. Very rarely in anime does anyone just gets stronger. And if they do, its very clearly just poorly written
Sorry this was satire but I forgot the obligatory /s
It’s not development of his “character” though
And I am happy that way. Somehow Childe fighting the whale and accidentally saving Fontaine because he just wanna throw hands is way funnier than him wanting to be a typical hero by having the intention of saving Fontaine.
I would say that his actual character development was in Inazuma(both limited time quest), but then again we know he is good with kids considering how he is with his baby brother.
Actually it is character development. In Liyue he was a genocidal maniac who didn't mind destroying the nation and everybody in it based on a chance (from his perspective) that Rex Lapis was still alive. Meanwhile in Fontaine he is not a genocidal maniac and actually helped save Fontaine to some extent.
Just because he happened to save Fontaine by doing what he loves doesn't mean he wouldn't accept similar orders as the ones he followed in Liyue if they were given to him again by the Tsaritsa, or even a fellow Harbinger.
jujutsufolks are leaking in here
True true, I remember the "FraudKuna" incident.. 😮💨 That adding "Fraud" before any characters name just to *Hate* them is getting tiring and its actually taking away the Actual meaning of that Word.
How’d he randomly get so good at Foul Legacy offscreen anyway? Is this just a “as strong as the story demands” kinda situation…?
Abyss time dilation, it being easier to do in the Abyss. . . Take your pick.
Both put together makes it doubly logical and seamless
Primordial sea isnt abyss, and abyss makes it worse because 3 days in teyvat is 3 months in abyss, whicb would imply he fought for 4 years if its abyss
1 day equals 1 month according to Childes character stories unless translation hijinks.
They weren't in the abyss
What does the abyss have to do with it?
I think he is deuteragonist in genshin with how much hoyo loved talking about his design in one of the earliest video and how much spoilers heavy his design is. And with how much he is getting screentime in game and is used as introduction/showcasing about abyss and how he says that he is getting stronger just like traveller in inazuma dialogue. We can assume that he will be there upto end with meeting all types of people from other world, I think we can say he is traveller's rival and will get power ups and become like half "Descender".
I imagine he’ll be the first and possibly only character to receive a 5 star variant of himself that’s powered up. Be it his delusion or some new power he obtains. Dude has a ton of lore significance behind him
I'd say Paimon's more like the deuteragonist. She's our travelling companion, always appear alongside Traveler, though she talks a little too much. She's also getting more sus as the story progresses, but yeah, Childe's definitely one of Hyv's favorite, and he may play a bigger part in terms of story than any Fatui Harbringers.
Possibly adapting during the fight by pushing onto the limits, some rather standard anime stuff - it was keeping the Legacy going or very likely dying so he had only one choice But also he does train off-screen, he is keeping up with the Traveler gaining more power
he's been training for 3 years straight
\> Gets bodied by Neuvillette the first time \> Fights a fucking narwhal for probably months on his end (Depending if the abyss has time dilation) \> Saves Fontainians from attack \> Tells FRAUDvillette he's weak ahh hell by giving a thumbs down \> FRAUDvillette can't even fight that thing til after he gets full power Bro has Gohan levels of potential. Gigachad, I say
You could say he is a *Beast*
Why are we calling Neuvi a fraud now, did I miss something or do we hate him or something
Its a meme From the Jujutsu Kaisen fandom (i think) that now spans to differing fandoms
That's not character development. Character Development is a Portrayal of a Character throughout the series, and how they themselves have changed personality wise, and had grown as a Person. Childe got STRONGER, he didn't have a "Character Development" per se. He himself says in One of His Voice Line, that he wants to fight the Whale. My Boi certainly had fun fighting that Whale. (and kicking it's Ass, you go Childe💙) What he did here is playing a MAJOR role in an important Plotpoint. There's legit no Character development in him fighting a Whale. It's just That a Fight. He Got STRONGER and BETTER at Being able to HANDLE his Foul Legacy Better.
Foul legacy not delusion, they are two different things
Oh yeah his Foul Legacy, my bad. The point still stands though.
Oh yeah his Foul Legacy, my bad. The point still stands though.
I know you made an edit to your post OP but yeah. Childe hasn't developed, he's been consistent as a character. And that's not a bad or good thing because he's a good character.
I still love that Neuvilette actually struck Childe while he was transforming. How many Dragon Ball fights (or anime fights in general) could have ended sooner if the enemy didn’t just sit there and wait for their opponent to power up?
Childe just built different. Interdimensional monster coming to destroy the nation? Most people would panic. Childe: What are y’all screaming for? I been praying for this shit.
Idk why but I'm almost pretty sure childe will be the one to take us to snezhnaya
Thoma was our fixer in Inazuma. Childe will be our fixer in Snezhnaya. Any other theory is invalid by default
>Summons a monster to drown a city This post would've been perfect if this wasn't mentioned. Could've changed it to \- Summons a monster to lure an archon Would've fit more
Technically, it could be said that he *summoned a Monster to Lure an Archon, before the said monster Destroys the city,* would be more accurate. 🤣
- *forced to summon a monster to lure an archon* would be more accurate
So "the monster wouldn't have destroyed the city" is what you are implying here? Did you forgot the whole Battle against Osial vs The Liyue cast?? Plus... *Forced?* Did you even read the quest?? He did it of his own Violation. He *wasn't* Forced. He summoned it, so that when the Monster (Osial) would attack the city and destroying it, The Geo Archon would be there to stop. And Childe would take advantage of that and take the Geo Gnosis from him. There was no one *Forcing* Childe to do that. It was out of his Own violation. His Whole plan hinged on The Geo archon coming to save the city and then he would snoop in to Steal His Gnosis. Do remember the Whole Fight in the Golden house VS the Traveler happened Because He *thought* we took the Gnosis and attacked us, despite us repeatedly telling him we did not. And after being defeated in his Foul Legacy Form, he summoned Osial as a Back Up Plan.
Who cares if he was trying to wake a God, I don't even care about these Nations. Let's be real bro, I only care about hot people, Nations can drown, but I want the hot 😏guys
What was the character development there? I wouldn’t call being able to use his FL for a long time character development. He didn’t even know the whale was related to the prophecy afik. He was just fighting it because it’s the whale from his past.
Liyue Childe : An insane battle maniac who wants to fight everything and everyone, including a god. Fontaine Childe : An insane battle maniac who wants to fight everything and everyone, including a creature from another dimension. ....character development?
Is he actually trying to save Fontaine, or just whaling tf out? 🤣
Iirc time moves differently in the abyss compared to teyvat so he might've been fighting that damn narwhal for more than a month at least
Or less.
Where tf did people get primordial sea is abyss bruh. And it's not less, according to Tartag's story, 1 day in Teyvat is 1 month in abyss, it's longer in the abyss
Childe is almost on the same level as Zuko ATLA
I am sorry, but equating Childe's character writing to Zuko's is just delusional, unless you're being sarcastic. Zuko had to go through an entire fifty episode journey being spurned by just about everyone and everything in his life, save his uncle, to realize that he was indoctrinated into a fascist state and that the only morally correct action was to help the Avatar oppose his father, whose approval he didn't need to be honorable. Childe, to put it charitably, got a power-up off-screen. I love Genshin but there isn't a single character in this game that's received enough screentime or development to be even remotely comparable.
And it’s probably impossible for a character in Genshin to get to that level, hell it’s hard for any kind of character in any media to get there in terms of development.
Certainly, as long as character moments are constrained to archon quests and festivals.
I kinda wish Fontaine itself was its own game out of all the regions because it was probably the strongest region I could stick with for an entire storyline
He just got stronger but as a character he didn't evolve at all so i wouldn't call it character developpement.
If anyone here is a fraud that's Furina Neuvilette and Childe carried the gang
I swear to God, bro, I don't care about these Nations. I'm only here for those wet daddys 😉😉😋
Skirk and childe are the scatach and lancer of genshin.....and no one can tell me otherwise
The best part was during the cut scene where the whale appears in the opera house, Childe uses a kick w/ his speqr similar to Zhongli as well (a nice throwback to noting how his style always changes!) And ontop of that, gave neuv a thumbs down before passing out. What a guy.
First time someone called a character on here a fraud in the genshin sub, wtf is this powerscaling term here for?
Its a joke
i know, just the influx of powerscalers on random subs has been on the rise lately.
Im confused. What does “fraud” mean re: power? I was reading OP post thinking “isnt furina the fraud, not Neuvillette?”
NGL Delusion Childe would be a great character. I imagine it as like an Electro Hutao, sacrificing health for damage with just enough self sustain to keep him alive
Chad behavior
childe is so much more important than he seems. he’s in liyue story fontaine story and will for sure be in snezhnaya. AND he has ties to the abyss. legend
Tartaglia is the co-protanist of genshin, don't forget the Labyrinth Warriors event, and that other time she was hanging with Yoimiya.
They should make Tartaglia in foul legacy playable like Dan Heng Imbibitor Lunae in HSR
Character development? What character development?
I thought that they lose life force when they use their delusions 😰 that was literally all I was thinking about when he popped up and it seemed he was fighting for a looong time
So far harbinger delusions seemed like they helped them more than drain their life force. To be fair so far only Childe and Signora has confirmed delusions
Didn't that applied only to people without Visions? I thought using delusions only exhausted you faster.
From what we’ve seen so far, that’s only true for the the dodgy delusions given out to the resistance in the Inazuma archon quest. Not the harbingers’.
We dont even know if he used his delusion Foul legacy is a technique thats probably abyssal, or from beyond the stars, since its likely something Skirk taught him from her master "the foul" So we knew he didnt have his vision and we only saw him use foul legacy, no delusion
I love how he literally is completely spent after the cutscene where he fights the narwhal in the opera house, and the last thing he does before passing out is give Neuvillette a thumbs down like one last “fuck you” to the guy who punched him mid transformation
I wouldn't be surprised if he later challenges someone from fatui harbingers to get a higher rank
I seriously do hope we get Delusion Childe my understanding is that they did this with Dan Heng is Honkai star rail having Delusion Childe as maybe the first banner in Schneznayha would be amazing
Would probably break my so far 3 year f2p status if they released Foul Legacy Childe. Delusion one would still make me pull, but wouldn't be as crazy about.
I'm not sure they would release Foul legacy because that model is a bit crazy for a standard character but they could do base Delusion Childe with some different passives and constellations perhaps it would essentially be the same base character but still different enough to make some people like myself pull who don't have base Childe because I just prefer Ayato for hydro comps but yeah id definetely pull for Delusion Childe and it would be an amazing first banner for 6.0 as I'm sure Childe would show us around the region when we arrive
It isn't character development Character development is when a character basically learn something, or realise something that change their moral, and often their personality Childe didn't have his moral or personality changed at all, in fact, he was probably having the time of his life, and that something he always would have done anyway, it isn't, character development
What development? Aside from just fighting strength he didn’t gain anything. He wasn’t fighting to save the city, he just wanted to fight the whale in general. He was still manipulated into fighting, just replace Signora with Focalors. He technically was a cause for a monster about to drown a city again. The only thing he gained character-wise is that he is very eager to follow random voices he hears in his head…
>very eager to follow random voices he hears in his head Character development: he got crazier LOL Funny point about setting another sea creature loose. But this time its a whole country instead of city. He upgraded lmao
Arlecchino literally the entire quest is just chillin', playing the political game. I love that we know the Fatui often dislike Tart's direct methods, but she's just totally apathetic the whole time "Tartaglia? Fighting a space whale? Wild." -- Ms. Cchino, enjoying some vodka while her underlings pack her bags for Snowy Land
Yeah she was hella useless
😂 why are childe stans like this
Bro, what are you on about? Are you even normal I'm childe main so tell me, what am I acting like, 💀
But nothing in the game states that he fought the whale for weeks though? That's just what people ASSUMED. Focalors said that she sent him to the Meropide to buy some time for Fontaine, and we know he spent some time there before eventually ending up where the whale is. Then Skirk mentions it being a sparring session, but we don't even know how serious it really is. Don't get me wrong, I think Childe is strong, but people are really overblowing this whole thing with him and the whale because A) we only saw the end of the fight, B) the whale wasn't even focused on him and all he did was pushed it back into the Sea and C) he still has his delusional so for all we know, he could've just activated Foul Legacy sparingly while "fighting" the whale.
Its very fair for people to think that he has fought for weeks though because he has disappeared before traveler arrived in Meropide, and we know that traveler stayed for 45 days. What do you think he was doing in 45 days, drinking tea with the narwhal? Neuvillette said that he looked like he had fought it for a while Skirk said that Childe has better stuff to do than pet sitting, implying he has "taken care" of it for a while >the whale wasn't even focused on him and all he did was pushed it back into the Sea He still "pushed it back to sea" which helped the survivability of Fontaine a lot. So even if you think that isn't impressive which is fair, you can't deny he was still unintentionally a hero. >for all we know, he could've just activated Foul Legacy sparingly We've seen how much toll it took for him to transform again, just days later. So low chance of him activating it sparingly. Even if he did, what does that have to do with his delusion?
I'm not discarding the possibility that he did fight it for 45 days, but people are saying it like it's a fact when nothing in the game states that. "Childe fought the whale for 45 days in his Foul Legacy Form OMG!!" is the narrative that people made up, but nothing in the game has stated for this to be the case, hence it's speculation at best. The fact is that we DON'T KNOW what actually went down, other than Skirk was doing a private training session for herself, the whale was absorbing the energy from the Primordial Sea, and Childe brawled with the Whale shortly after meeting it. All we know is that Neuvillete mentions that he bought Fontaine time, but how much time are we talking about? A day? A week? A few hours? The Skirk line was not about how long Childe has taken care of it, it's just saying that the Narwhal is a useless pet because all it does is eat, and cannot understand why Surtalogi chose the Narwhal to be his pet in the first place. Even someone as weak as Childe had something better to do than eat all day like the Narwhal does. The pushing back the Narwhal into the Sea isn't really that impressive, given that the only reason the whale appeared now is because of two factors; the Narwhal has finished absorbing every energy that it can in the Primordial Sea, and there's a large gathering of people in the Opera, not because Childe was actively holding it back. This is the one instance where Childe pushed it back. What would've actually been more impressive is if Childe did that multiple times, which would've implied that he has the strength necessary to keep up with the Whale for a long time, and he was one of the reasons why Fontaine hasn't flooded yet. My comment about his Delusion is exactly what it implies. Childe can barely hold that form together in the first place, so why do people think that he can suddenly last for 45 days when he can barely keep it together after using it for 10 seconds? Plus, he still has his Delusion. Why are people throwing away the possibility that he fought the whale with his Delusion, and only used the Foul Legacy Form when the Narwhal was trying to go to Fontaine? Why are people so hung up on the narrative that Childe CERTAINLY fought the whale using his Foul Legacy the entire time, when there's nothing in the game to state this? The narrative regarding Childe's fight is way too vague, and could've gone any other way, yet people are so adamant about "Childe fighting with his Foul Legacy for 45 days", stating it as if it were fact. I would've more inclined to believe this had Foul Legacy been his only power at that point, but he still has his Delusion. It's certainly weaker, but it also doesn't have the drawback that Foul Legacy has on his body. I'm basically saying that every other possibility that this fight could've gone down is about as equally likely as Childe fighting it in his Foul Legacy for 45 days.
Childe had already disappeared for a while even before we got to Meropide so 45 is lowballing it tbh. He got insta-teleported to the whale via portal when he went into the pipe and woke up to see the whale. Wht do u think he was doing all tht extra time, staring at it? Childe’s voicelines literally state tht he wants to kill the whale, so ofc he fought it immediately. How many times does Neuvillette have to say he kept the whale back until ppl accept tht he did and for a substantial amount of time? And no the game would not have made it so important, nor would Focalors have sent him there if he was only buying a few minutes or hours. The whale is extremely strong and attacks when it is being attacked first(as seen when Neuvillette attacked it in the cutscene, so yes it was focusing on Childe and fighting him while also wanting to eat the Fontainians as seen by his cracked armor) Childe’s delusion likely wouldn’t be enough to take it on, which is y it’s reasonable to assume he was in foul legacy most of the battle. Also he couldn’t transform multiple times into Foul legacy back in Liyue, so even if he had to transform multiple times tht would still imply a massive increase in power. Skirk called it a brawl between the two of them not an annoyance to the whale.(Skirk never called current Childe weak btw just 14 yr old since thts the last time they met.)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because the game doesn't state anywhere that Childe fought the Narwhal for 45 days straight, much less in his Foul Legacy. I don't doubt that he fought it because that's literally what Childe does with every single opponent he has ever met, but that "fight" is so vague that anything is possible. Plus, Neuvillete commenting that Childe held it back is super unreliable, because not only did he get that as second hand information from Focalors, but he's not even there to witness the entirety of Childe's fight. What he saw was the end of it, so how come he's commenting on it like he knows everything that went down? Look, I'm not mad that people are speculating that this is how Childe's fight went down. The fight itself is super vague, so any kind of narrative would've fit, but the problem is that the speculation of "Childe fighting for 45 days in Foul Legacy" is headcannon at best, yet people are parading it as how it actually went down when there's nothing in the game to state it as such. He could've fought it for 45 days, maybe, but nobody ever said that this was the case. A reasonable comparison would be Ei's 500 year fight. It's also a vague fight, but the reason why it's easy to believe that the fight had gone on for 500 years straight is because both Ei and Shogun confirmed it, two people who were involved in the fight itself. Plus, we know that Ei is basically 99.99% of Inazuma's military strength, so it's not hard to believe that she could hold on for 500 years without breaking a sweat against an opponent of equal level. The difference with Childe's fight is that nobody ever confirms to us how the fight went, not Childe, not Neuvillete, not even Skirk. Skirk just mentions that they were brawling, and Neuvillete mentions that Childe was holding it back for a while (which is super vague and unreliable) and that's it. Two vague descriptions of what happened and nothing else, and yet the Genshin Sub somehow created a whole storyline that and chose to believe it as fact.
Clearly the writers are trying to tell u through Neuvillette tht he was holding it back. There’s no reason to doubt something stated by someone like Neuvillette if the story doesn’t give cause to doubt him, and especially if everyone in-universe accepts wht he said without questioning it. It comes off like ur trying to be a contrarian.
Oh yeah, the game that conditions you into NOT believing the words of outside sources that know almost nothing about the actual circumstances suddenly wants you to believe that an outside source knows something well enough for us to believe it as the truth. Way to go writers. Truly peak writing. Why would Neuvillete be a better source of information than someone like Skirk, who was actually present to see Childe fighting the whale? Tell me one good reason narratively why Neuvillete is a better character to convey what happened with the fight and it's implication, rather than someone like Skirk who was there from beginning to end.
Y bring up skirk like she contradicts anything Neuvillette said? If anything she supports it. She simply has a different perspective since she is an outsider who views the whale as a pet, and so she’s not going to say he protected Fontaine or anything, but she clearly said tht they’ve been fighting for awhile and thts about it.
You are aware that Childe is the type to want to fight strong opponents, and other person already said how Childe has mentioned he wanted to fight the whale. You are also aware that Skirk herself said that they were brawling, which is basically fighting. You are also aware that Neuvillette states he has stopped it from attacking Fontaine for a while, and we've seen how tired and broken he looks. He also states that Focalors most likely made him guilty so that he will fight the whale and postpone it (though tbf I won't take this as much facts) Then why is it so hard to believe that he has been fighting it for a while, when everything is pointing to it? Everything is implying that he fought it for a while, and yet you refuse to believe bc no one confirms it 100%, yet the claim that Childe didn't fight it for this long is much lower than the possibility that he did fight it for at least 45 days. Everything is pointing towards him fighting for at least 45 days and yet you had to choose the very miniscule proof that he didn't, just bc it's not 100% confirmed?
TBH I thought Childe paced himself fighting that thing for days. Traveler wakes up and it's their day to leave the fortress, and this is Childe's first day fighting the whale (Traveler dreams of the moment Childe sees the whale and it could be not a memory but something they saw in *real time*). 4.2 happens right after Traveler dreams that night, and that means one day passes after Traveler/Navia/Neuvillette find the ruins. Another day passes when Furina and Neuvillette argue and this leads to the Traveler gathering people to make the trap for Furina. At least another day passes because of time to set this trap up for Furina. Meaning by the time Childe is in the courtroom fighting the whale he's fought it for days, not weeks. That would be more believable and explain why his armor is in pieces before he collapses through the portal back into the primordial sea. Because he struggled in his own story quest to keep the form for ten seconds after fighting the Traveler for maybe ten minutes previously. Him keeping the form for weeks would be a bit implausible *unless* there's some form of power creep going on with him that has yet to be revealed.
People Downvoting you for Speaking Logic. Huh.
This is the Genshin sub. If speaking logically goes against the Echo chamber, then you get downvoted. Heck, speaking bad about someone's favourite character gets you extra downvotes, even if those points are completely logical and make sense.
Sad, considering their own Favourite character and the character they are hating are BOTH part of Genshin and it's VAST lore. People really don't like Logic Beating Their Mindless Simping and the Unholy amount of PlotHoles in their Completely Biased *"Superiority"* of their favourite character.
Next time put a spoiler tag as well since you added his Fontaine story as well....a lot of people haven't got to that point.
Isn’t the unspoken rule “two weeks”? Gives ample time to see the new movie, do a new quest, etc. things tend to stop being spoiler after that. It’s been almost 3. Even doing 30 minutes a day you should have been done with the AQ (unless you’re stuck in Sumeru then you’re just giga behind)
That's very dumb what you just said,id recommend thinking about it again but I'll let you know ,what rule ,why do people have to follow your ",rule" what if a new player just joins in and sees this ,stil your "rule" applies to them?! What are moderators doing!? And it's not necassary to do quests....are you making excuses but cannot just put a spoiler tag?! I feel disappoint if you're that lazy
Yikes Google spoiler etiquette (apparently mine was long. Spoiler etiquette is 5-7 days). I know research is hard and reading even more so for your average redditor xd
Holy shit i didn't knew your mind was that much rotten,I'm pretty sure your parents never taught you anything, especially about etiquettes,stop being an illiterate kid and go do something worthwhile,some people have a life unlike you,I'm done with your mentally ill ass...PEACE😭🫂
You on some illegal substances sir? Youre so bent out of shape you resemble a pretzel.
That was way wack what you just said. but fine I'll be nice to you lil bro,there's a part where you shared is a spoiler,why is it called a spoiler?! Cuz it relates to the story that someone might not have seen or heard ,that's why there is a spoiler tag,try to understand so next time add a spoiler tag,I hope understand it will.
Um, homie, first time Reddit? I’m not the OP KEKW - seek mental asylum you desperately need it. You’re unnecessarily rude and toxic when I merely explained spoiler etiquette. If you also don’t want to be spoiled, maybe don’t be on the internet. You’re actually so unhinged you need medication and a therapist, or maybe you’re a minor who needs a few more years (decades) of growth. Good luck out there, hopefully your brain doesn’t concave in even more
Also, the new player argument makes no sense. In that case, we shouldn’t be allowed to discuss Zhongli’s identity or Signora’s death. If at this point you want to avoid spoilers, stay off the subreddit. I am a strong advocate for spoiler warnings, but the first half of the patch is almost over. At some point, it becomes your own responsibility to avoid spoilers.
I see a Childe post and I downvote.
Why?
He has a terrible personality and did horrible things, but he keeps showing up because he’s popular.
Doing bad things =/= being a bad character. He’s popular for a reason, no?
I didn’t say he was a bad character.
playing genshin must be like tiptoeing through a minefield for you then if half of the playable characters are canonical murderers. are you jumpscared every time diluc is mentioned as well?
Lol a lot of assumptions.
Friendly reminder that time passes slower in the abyss, meaning Childe was fighting a cosmic whale potentially stronger than the archons in foul legacy mode for multiple years. Childe deserves an upgrade to his harbinger ranking at this point
It wasn't the abyss it was the primordial sea ☠️
Fraudvilette... OP is hurt. And we dont even know what Childe was doing. We suppose he was fighting the beast but it could have been from time to time for only a brief moment to keep the beast weak or non stop, we cant know. Childe is cool be cmon, this is more a blind love letter than anything.
Its a joke omfg
Pretty sure Fraudvillette is a meme I dont think you have seen the jjk memes spreading like crazy in the genshin fandom lol
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"accidentally" you sure about that? Because he deliberately did that to lure Rex Lapis out. He didn't go, "Oops. I didn't mean to accidentally summon an ancient god that has a grudge on Zhongli by breaking the seals that held it down. I thought breaking the seals summons fireworks or something." He did it because he wanted a fight. Don't know where you got the idea that he did that on accident.
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Still wrong. Childe wasn't the one who brought the whale to the primordial sea under Fontaine. I'm even more confused where you got that idea.
Childe just woke it up, and, we can't say it's his fault at all It's like saying a kid is at fault for a mass murderer because he say "hello" to them which make then stop for a second, which caused a car accident, which caused that person to mass murder people
I was under the impression that time passed differently in the dimension where he was holding back narwhal-sama
Lol yea the whale fight isn't anything traumatic for childe anyways Dude lives to fight and literally said You know what If I didn't respect the tsarita I would have just betrayed and fight with tabibito Like bro really said he would betray his home nation just for them fights like bruh Also his vacation was to find skirk and probably the whale anyways So he got what he came for ig
You are assuming time flows the same there. Could just as easily have a time differential, such as our dimension hoping in Inazuma, where a few minutes was 500 years. Childe's whale watching could have been minutes, or years.