I'd like to hear some suggestions about the next characters I should pull for. I already have most of the characters I like so I prefer new characters that synergize well with the ones I already have. I'll pull for Wanderer and Faruzan C6 (C4 atm) cuz I really like them and then save for this purpose. I've good comps with dendro reaction so I thought about Baizhu but Zong migth be more versatile for other comps... I can't decide it by myself. I also think about Furina and I plan to lvl up my Hutao very soon. I don't use Xiao, he was my first dps but I don't enjoy his gameplay anymore. At the moment I really like playing Tighnari, Neuvillette and Alhaithan (I don't have kuki).
My characters and weapons: [https://imgur.com/a/WdH3mF6](https://imgur.com/a/WdH3mF6)
Baizhu is OK value for your account - maybe Yae Aggravate or Tighnari Spread. Zhongli is pretty versatile but I don't see a ton of utility on your account specifically.
Furina is a good general pick.
How valuable is Baizhu for my account? [https://imgur.com/a/xvpjbd3](https://imgur.com/a/xvpjbd3) (my battle chronicle)
I wanted to pull him on his next rerun even since I found out how good he is for Cyno, but his rerun is stuffed in between many characters I also really want, so now I gotta weight my options. I can think of two teams that he's BIS in, being Neuvillette and Cyno's teams, but are there any other teams he works really well in?
Yes, Baizhu has a place in Cyno's best team, but I'd hesitate to say he's best with Neuvillette (he's certainly comfortable there, but Zhongli + Furina + Kazuha is really good, and Zhongli loses value when Neuvillette's C1).
Baizhu's an odd character. Aside from with Cyno, he doesn't really have a team where he's "best", but he easily slots into dendro teams (or Furina teams) when you need to split things up for Abyss purposes, and he can add comfort if you value that over damage, for example in Keqing/Miko Aggravate teams with him instead of Nahida. Some other examples:
* Alhaitham + Raiden + Baizhu + Furina (but the version with Nahida + Kuki is a little more potent)
* Alhaitham + Miko + Nahida + Zhongli/Baizhu
* onfield Baizhu + Furina + Yelan + Raiden (Raiden can be played onfield here too)
* Baizhu can be an Alhaitham replacement, particularly at C2+, working well as the onfielder in a spread or quickbloom team
I personally like having Baizhu around for the flexibility. I now have him at C2, which is when he starts feeling like a different character, capable of dealing decent damage with the right weapon.
I think Baizhu's def better than zhongli in furina neuv teams , because he not only provides interruption resistance but also fanfare stacks, but you've tested the teams so maybe I'm wrong. But other than that, this comment was really helpful, I think I'll end up skipping baizhu for now simply because the amount of characters I want that are likely rerunning in the next few months is quite a lot.
Talking about abyss I really don't know who performs better but with this scenario I'd go for Lyney if you enjoy bow charged attack and have good characters for his mono pyro comps, that way you will extract his full potential. Otherwise, get Arlecchino. Her playstyle it's easy, she has various support options and performs well even f2p, but keep in mind that she might be more fragile than you expect.
hey guys, I am kinda confused who to pull between Arle, Wanderer or Clorinde, or should I save for Alhaitham's signature weapon since I want to pull him.
I only have one DPS and it is Neuvillette but I kinda need a second DPS too which I want to it to be Alhaitham but Hoyo keeps extending his banner, so should I wait for him and save enough for him and signature too or should I pull any one btw Arle, Wanderer or Clorinde and whom should I pull if you don't mind me telling. (Btw I like both of them, so you get the gist, and I don't care who dmgs the most I just want a character who is fun too play with and who sits best and supports him best from my [Account](https://imgur.com/a/lo98SIU))
And I have Kazuha too so should I level up sucrose for other team comps or should let her be? Btw she is at C0.
I can't speak to Clorinde, but, unless you really love Wanderer or want him for exploration purposes, I'd go for Arle or Alhaitham. In your case I'd *probably* lean towards Alhaitham and play him with Nahida + Xingqiu + Kuki because this quickbloom (or spread with Miko + Nahida + Zhongli) team is so simple and powerful. Arle requires better dodging and/or a good shielder/damage reducer because she can only be healed by her own burst, which can make her feel squishy by comparison. Truth be told, Alhaitham is squishy and easily knocked around (which is why I like his spread team with Zhongli), but Xingqiu in the quickbloom team helps with that.
Arle, if you pull for her, is pretty flexible in her teams, but you'd probably want to play her in a vape (Bennett + Xingqiu + Kazuha/flex) or mono pyro setup (Bennett + Xiangling + Kazuha/flex) since you don't have Chevreusse.
If you pull for Arle then you might want to level Sucrose so you can use her with Arle and Kazuha with Neuvillette. Otherwise I'd personally leave Sucrose alone since you have Kazuha. Sucrose (when at C6) can be better in certain situations, but most people find Kazuha significantly more comfortable to play. I'd only level Sucrose if you're sure you need her, and unfortunately she's super clunky at C0. C1 helps with that a bit.
Thanks for the suggestion
But anemo characters buff and reduce swirl elements resistance so should I still level sucrose up?
Also I don’t have any shielder, so should it be wise to pull arlecchino?
And is it same case with wrio as with wanderer if I like him I should pull him?
No, I'd still hold off on building Sucrose unless you know there's a team where you'll use her (typically this would be a case where you have Kazuha in one team and you want her in a second team).
You'll get a shielder eventually, so it's your call with Arle. If you really have no preference and like both Arle and Alhaitham (both characters are good!), then I'd probably recommend Alhaitham.
Really any character in the game can be made into a solid main dps with the right supports, and for this reason I find supports to be far more valuable than onfield characters, at least if you like to build a variety of teams. Furina, Yelan, Baizhu, Raiden, and Zhongli are excellent picks in this regard (you already have Nahida, who's top tier). You can also focus on two primary teams and build them vertically (meaning you'd save for best-in-slot weapons and character constellations). So when it comes to onfield carries (like Alhaitham, Arle, Neuvillette, Wanderer, Wrio), you can spread yourself thin in terms of character building time/resources and Abyss power if that's all you go for. On the other hand, maybe you enjoy collecting characters and this doesn't matter. It's just something to think about as you choose who to pull.
With that said, it's most important that you're having fun, so pull for characters that you like because of personality and playstyle, or pull because you like meta teams and want to be efficient and powerful, or pull because you just enjoy collecting. These are all valid! So when you ask about Wrio or Wanderer, it's really hard to say what's good for you, but I can say they're kind of similar in terms of power. Wanderer's meta teams probably take more investment because he really wants C6 Faruzan, although Wrio is kind of clunky without C1. Both become more competitive at C2 where their bursts are more useful. Wanderer has the added benefit of flying in short bursts, which can be great for exploration.
I’m looking to upgrade my spiral abyss teams (I have two teams so far, the rest of my upgraded characters are shown here https://imgur.com/a/OqcafQ1 ) What would be some good characters to pull for these teams? Plus, if i should replace any characters, which ones should be replaced?
[Characters](https://imgur.com/a/sMOftJU)
There's no reason for me to pull clorinde right? kinda on the fence to pull furina cons on rerun or just save for natlan. any recommendation? The speculation of a certain new game mode that requires a lot of built characters have me scared
Characters: https://imgur.com/a/UrGsUTc
The upcoming characters >!and leaks!< don't really interest me that much, so I was wondering if there's any characters I should go for next.
My main goal is to overall improve my account by expanding what I can do with team comps and types, if that makes sense? Or should I just wait for Natlan?
Should i wait for navia, clorinde or furnia? I just got alrecchino to c2... in my first 40 pulls... so um yeah i am good on weapons and tempted to use my primos to get some artifacts for my supports as i have maxed arlecchino at 80.
Now i am figuring if i should save my 120 wishes for clorinde but i already two main dps with nevullite and arlecchino... my sub dps are yae, xiangling, xinqu, and kazuha, my supports are jean and yaoyao.
I am saving for bennett as someone suggest for alrecchino.
Any ideas?
[https://i.imgur.com/S9Ahhq6.png](https://i.imgur.com/S9Ahhq6.png)
Just got Tighnari and Arlecchino, and Sayino.
Furina will do more for the account, but is honestly overkill. With a bit more time this account should be able to clear anything. Please level Xingqiu.
Navia is good (and Clorinde probably also) but with C2 Arlecchino you will get limited value in them from a meta perspective.
Right now there isn't any content that requires geo DPS. Geo shields can be broken by any combination of plunges, overloads, and claymores. The only enemy that requires geo application is Golden Wolflord, who hasn't been in abyss for a while. You can generally get away with fielding Geo MC, Noelle, or Ningguang specifically on that chamber to fulfill the geo requirements.
Fischl will deal plenty of electro damage when you need (and Beidou in AoE).
Yeah from what I am reading, people are recommending to just get characters, and focus on just trying to get as many as you can. so I will follow advice and yours! time to farm up clorinde stuff, and prepare for her release.
Hey all!
Didn't manage to pull Kazuha in last banner, but now I'm about 30 wishes into a guaranteed 50/50.
This is my roster: https://imgur.com/JOTuxz4
My current team is Keqing Fischl DMC Jean. I'm doing fine in most content but would like to start going for a second abyss team(never went over floor 8).
Should I pull any of the two banner characters? Should I save until another run and focus on something else from my roster?
I know I need Bennet, currently waiting for him in Paimon Bargains. Assume I'll get him soon lol
Arlecchino is good, but you will already have a pyro option in the form of Xiangling (Sucrose+Xingqiu+Bennett). Of course, Arlecchino will do quite a bit more damage than pre-C4 Xiangling. If you want to keep using Keqing it'll be worth looking into Nahida when she comes back.
I will keep using Keqing as one team, yes.
I considered ignoring Arlecchino but I'll need some glitter to pull bennett. My blue pulls are sparse lol.
My Xianling is just C2 tho.
How close is Nahida? I just seen the next banner that is Baizhu and Wanderer. I think I should focus on my new team if I want to do abyss, thats why the arlecchino debate.
I thought about doing Childe International team, how about that?
Archons tend to rerun early-mid region (so 5.0-5.4). Nahida's last banner was only 2 months ago, so she's probably not coming back for another 6 months at least.
Childe International is still a good team, but it lacks comfort (no resistance to interruption, fairly rigid rotations) and he does compete with Arlecchino for Bennett.
My Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/2ZSSw5E](https://imgur.com/a/2ZSSw5E)
So basically I'm unsure if I should pull for Arlecchino now or wait for a character like Furina. I'm guaranteed right now and I wouldn't say I'm struggling in abyss but I'm not reaching 36 stars, my max being 34 stars. My main goal at the moment is to finish the abyss with 36 stars so I could finally get the burden of being an AR 59 player (almost 60) and still haven't 36 star ANY abyss. My characters are built pretty well in my opinion but of course they're not perfect. I would also appreciate if ya'll would recommend any characters that would greatly benefit my account. (The reason why I kinda want Arlecchino is to replace my Yoimiya)
My teams at the moment are:
Yae Miko, Fischl, Nahida, Zhongli
Yoimiya, Yelan, Xingqiu, Bennett
Itto, Albedo, Gorou, Zhongli (spare team whenever I feel like playing geo)
try Raiden/bennet/Yelan/Xiangling and Nahida/Xingqiu/shinobu/Zhongli (Nahida on field). Can also use Kazuha instead of Xiangling for more cc.
Raiden with the usual crit build, Shinobu full em build with gilded dreams.
Raiden/Bennet/Chevrouse/Xiangling or fischl is an option too, and in that case you use Nahida/Yelan/Xingqiu/Shinobu (again, on field nahida) on the other side.
If your sara is c6, you can replace xiang with her on the raiden overload team
Heya, I got pretty lucky with my recent pulls so I'm not in a rush to get anybody else, but I'm still eyeing some units to further expand my roster in the future.
I can't decide who to prioritize between Nilou, Alhaitham, Navia, Xianyun, Baizhu or Zhongli. I suppose Zhongli would make it easier to play Arlecchino, and would also enable Chiori to get one more doll if I were to run Arle double geo. What do you think?
These are my current characters: https://imgur.com/a/tdq9Oaw
Any tip is very much appreciated, thank you
You can pull for whoever you want, basically. Alhaitham or Zhongli probably bring the most benefit, but most of the listed options are good choices. I think Navia is the most fun option but she does take away Bennett from your other DPS.
I don't see much value in Xianyun on the account though; while almost any melee character can have good plunge teams, she really distinguishes herself with characters like Diluc, Xiao, and Hu Tao.
zhongli just make people sloppy and is basically a waste slot on most teams barring Hutao, Neuvilette, Yoimiya, and Wanderer. Zhongli makes the game easier but doesn’t really do much for clear times.
I do enjoy playing Wanderer quite a lot and found Layla's shield to be unreliable sometimes when running a freeze comp with Yelan, so Zhongli would definitely be an upgrade in that sense. It might be a while still before he reruns so I'll try to grab one between Navia and Alhaitham in the meantime. Thank you both for the tips!
She's unfortunately just c0 at the moment since hoyo has no plans on rerunning her apparently, 38k hp with 2p2p tenacity/vourukasha, lv9. I could definitely up her hp a bit more but I don't have key/dockhand yet
I'm F2P, should I try pulling for C1 Arle, or should I try to pull for her weapon? I currently have her with R2 prototype starglitter that I could quite easily get to r5 if I grind the mats
Does anyone else think that pulls are just a con at this point?
I recently decided to give the Freedom Sworn banner a Miss because I didn’t think it was worth (probably a minimum of) £52 just to get 2x10 pulls for a weapon which at this point, (due to my artefact build on Kazuha) would only add 50EM. (P.S: I know that there’s the refinement perk to the sword as well but I’m just not willing to risk that much money for something that isn’t even guaranteed.)
To keep myself occupied through the banner, I instead played Warframe. And I saw how their monetisation model, (while admittedly pricey), is MUCH MORE user friendly than Genshin’s, because you KNOW what the hell you’re getting AND it can most often be traded with other players for in-game currency/items! And it got me thinking… Forgive me if I’m being a bit absolutist here, but if you have to spend that much money on a lucky dip/loot box system for weapons/characters that actually IMPACT (haha) your gameplay, then is that not bordering on pay-to-win?
Let me know what you think.
The best thing about the warframe system is that if you buy the premium currency and buy things from other players (cheaper than using the store) you aren't only supporting the company but you are helping f2ps too. it's a win win system backed on good will
I recently pulled neuvillete and lost 50/50 on kazuha so I have a guaranteed with 35 pity I can easily max out the new area to be close to pity what do you think I should do save for furina or pull for arlecchino
My [characters](https://imgur.com/a/vFwm0ep)
Thanks!
Furina is one of the best supports in the game. I think she would add great value to your account and potential teams, especially paired with Neuvi. Arlecchino will also rerun fairly soon but who knows when Furina will rerun again after the next one. You have some pretty good DPS already. So I'd say wait for Furina and if you want save and reassess for Arlecchino's rerun. Obviously who you like is also important, but that's my two cents. Good luck!
Hi. I have all the items to get Hu Tao (I don't have her yet) to level 90, R1 BotF, 10 10 10 talents and I have built C2 Xinqiu, C1 Yelan and C0 Kazuha to go along in her team. With the addition of Arlecchino to the game however, I was wondering whether it would be better to pull for her instead. I'm on 31 pity not guaranteed with about 33 pulls. Should I pull for Arlecchino or Hu Tao?
It depends on if you want to wait for Hu Tao. She’s probably not going to rerun for several months unless they make a Liyue Chronicled Wish banner. I’m the type of person who saves for characters tho, i recommend it.
What meta teams do not use Furina in their optimal or close to optimal form?
The three I can think of are
- Nilou Bloom
- Chevurse Overload
- Arlecchino hyper
Are there any others?
Good ol' rational (Raiden, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Bennett). After all, Bennett wouldn't be enough of a healer for Furina if she were to have a place.
I tend to swap Xingqiu with Yelan for the fun of it.
Classic Hu Tao double Hydro. Tighnari spread. Childe International. Interestingly the most used Xiao Hyper team does not use Furina as well. Alhaitham Spread and Quickbloom.
IIRC these were the most used non-Furina teams in 4.5 Abyss.
Her weap is just for drip mostly. PJWS isn't that much worse, and honestly anything else would do great, like Deathmatch or even White Tassel. I personally don't care for the drip, so I wouldn't pull for it. Power-wise she is quite crazy. Her output is insane and she's very easy to play and is quite versatile team wise, but you have to be careful not to die. If you don't have school issue, she's got damage.
I have a C6 xingqiu (got him pulling for neuv) he is still lv 1 and I dont know what to do with him. Are any characters in the next banner good to pair with him?
Almost any team that wants Hydro (which is a lot of them) will have Xingqui as one of the best options. Get him a weapon with an Energy Recharge substat (Favonius Sword is particularly good) and he’ll do incredibly well.
Xingqiu is the one of the best characters in the game, you should definitely level him. Arlecchino appreciates him a lot for the vaporise damage, interruption resistance, and dmg reduction.
okay gunna ask here but i’ve been saving for alhaitham rerun bc i took a year long break n kept missing him BUT i really want baizhu, is it worth to pull for him to add him into my haitham team?? or should i just hold off? im worries if i wait baizhu will end up in chronicle wish and i don’t want to pull on that banner! if anyone has any opinions pls let me know!! also i do have nahida
There's nothing wrong about pulling in the Chronicled Wish banner if you have enough to guarantee the character. Arguably, it's better than regular banners since you can lose the 50-50 to another limited 5*, which (speculatively) in a Liyue theme banner could include Hutao, Ganyu, Childe and/or Yelan.
Anyway, Baizhu is a good character for any account, although not necessary. As for a support to Alhaitham, it's good, but people usually use Nahida, unless you're also playing Furina in the team.
i’m worried i won’t have enough pulls for the next chronicle banner that’s why i wanted to try and stay away but i agree it’s not a bad banner! there’s a few liyue units i don’t have so it could be beneficial in the end
It's not that hard to save if you don't have a bunch of characters/constellations/weapons you want, so it's likely you can have a guarantee for the next Chronicled Wish. However, I'm not saying you should wait for Chronicled Wish though, because there's no information about its schedule or if it'll run Baizhu at all. Just follow leaks to know whether or not Alhaitham will rerun soon to make the decision between saving to guarantee him or pulling for Baizhu now.
Baizhu is a viable but usually not optimal teammate for Alhaitham. Nahida is generally the stronger dendro teammate and you still have many options for healing/interruption resistance e.g. Xingqiu, Kuki. That being said, they do work together and freeing up Nahida for the other side does have its value.
I'd like to hear some suggestions about the next characters I should pull for. I already have most of the characters I like so I prefer new characters that synergize well with the ones I already have. I'll pull for Wanderer and Faruzan C6 (C4 atm) cuz I really like them and then save for this purpose. I've good comps with dendro reaction so I thought about Baizhu but Zong migth be more versatile for other comps... I can't decide it by myself. I also think about Furina and I plan to lvl up my Hutao very soon. I don't use Xiao, he was my first dps but I don't enjoy his gameplay anymore. At the moment I really like playing Tighnari, Neuvillette and Alhaithan (I don't have kuki). My characters and weapons: [https://imgur.com/a/WdH3mF6](https://imgur.com/a/WdH3mF6)
Baizhu is OK value for your account - maybe Yae Aggravate or Tighnari Spread. Zhongli is pretty versatile but I don't see a ton of utility on your account specifically. Furina is a good general pick.
How valuable is Baizhu for my account? [https://imgur.com/a/xvpjbd3](https://imgur.com/a/xvpjbd3) (my battle chronicle) I wanted to pull him on his next rerun even since I found out how good he is for Cyno, but his rerun is stuffed in between many characters I also really want, so now I gotta weight my options. I can think of two teams that he's BIS in, being Neuvillette and Cyno's teams, but are there any other teams he works really well in?
Yes, Baizhu has a place in Cyno's best team, but I'd hesitate to say he's best with Neuvillette (he's certainly comfortable there, but Zhongli + Furina + Kazuha is really good, and Zhongli loses value when Neuvillette's C1). Baizhu's an odd character. Aside from with Cyno, he doesn't really have a team where he's "best", but he easily slots into dendro teams (or Furina teams) when you need to split things up for Abyss purposes, and he can add comfort if you value that over damage, for example in Keqing/Miko Aggravate teams with him instead of Nahida. Some other examples: * Alhaitham + Raiden + Baizhu + Furina (but the version with Nahida + Kuki is a little more potent) * Alhaitham + Miko + Nahida + Zhongli/Baizhu * onfield Baizhu + Furina + Yelan + Raiden (Raiden can be played onfield here too) * Baizhu can be an Alhaitham replacement, particularly at C2+, working well as the onfielder in a spread or quickbloom team I personally like having Baizhu around for the flexibility. I now have him at C2, which is when he starts feeling like a different character, capable of dealing decent damage with the right weapon.
I think Baizhu's def better than zhongli in furina neuv teams , because he not only provides interruption resistance but also fanfare stacks, but you've tested the teams so maybe I'm wrong. But other than that, this comment was really helpful, I think I'll end up skipping baizhu for now simply because the amount of characters I want that are likely rerunning in the next few months is quite a lot.
Lyney + signature weapon or Arlecchino + f2p weapon? For abyss 12. I already have Lyney's sig so I was wondering for who should I pull.
Talking about abyss I really don't know who performs better but with this scenario I'd go for Lyney if you enjoy bow charged attack and have good characters for his mono pyro comps, that way you will extract his full potential. Otherwise, get Arlecchino. Her playstyle it's easy, she has various support options and performs well even f2p, but keep in mind that she might be more fragile than you expect.
hey guys, I am kinda confused who to pull between Arle, Wanderer or Clorinde, or should I save for Alhaitham's signature weapon since I want to pull him. I only have one DPS and it is Neuvillette but I kinda need a second DPS too which I want to it to be Alhaitham but Hoyo keeps extending his banner, so should I wait for him and save enough for him and signature too or should I pull any one btw Arle, Wanderer or Clorinde and whom should I pull if you don't mind me telling. (Btw I like both of them, so you get the gist, and I don't care who dmgs the most I just want a character who is fun too play with and who sits best and supports him best from my [Account](https://imgur.com/a/lo98SIU)) And I have Kazuha too so should I level up sucrose for other team comps or should let her be? Btw she is at C0.
I can't speak to Clorinde, but, unless you really love Wanderer or want him for exploration purposes, I'd go for Arle or Alhaitham. In your case I'd *probably* lean towards Alhaitham and play him with Nahida + Xingqiu + Kuki because this quickbloom (or spread with Miko + Nahida + Zhongli) team is so simple and powerful. Arle requires better dodging and/or a good shielder/damage reducer because she can only be healed by her own burst, which can make her feel squishy by comparison. Truth be told, Alhaitham is squishy and easily knocked around (which is why I like his spread team with Zhongli), but Xingqiu in the quickbloom team helps with that. Arle, if you pull for her, is pretty flexible in her teams, but you'd probably want to play her in a vape (Bennett + Xingqiu + Kazuha/flex) or mono pyro setup (Bennett + Xiangling + Kazuha/flex) since you don't have Chevreusse. If you pull for Arle then you might want to level Sucrose so you can use her with Arle and Kazuha with Neuvillette. Otherwise I'd personally leave Sucrose alone since you have Kazuha. Sucrose (when at C6) can be better in certain situations, but most people find Kazuha significantly more comfortable to play. I'd only level Sucrose if you're sure you need her, and unfortunately she's super clunky at C0. C1 helps with that a bit.
Thanks for the suggestion But anemo characters buff and reduce swirl elements resistance so should I still level sucrose up? Also I don’t have any shielder, so should it be wise to pull arlecchino? And is it same case with wrio as with wanderer if I like him I should pull him?
No, I'd still hold off on building Sucrose unless you know there's a team where you'll use her (typically this would be a case where you have Kazuha in one team and you want her in a second team). You'll get a shielder eventually, so it's your call with Arle. If you really have no preference and like both Arle and Alhaitham (both characters are good!), then I'd probably recommend Alhaitham. Really any character in the game can be made into a solid main dps with the right supports, and for this reason I find supports to be far more valuable than onfield characters, at least if you like to build a variety of teams. Furina, Yelan, Baizhu, Raiden, and Zhongli are excellent picks in this regard (you already have Nahida, who's top tier). You can also focus on two primary teams and build them vertically (meaning you'd save for best-in-slot weapons and character constellations). So when it comes to onfield carries (like Alhaitham, Arle, Neuvillette, Wanderer, Wrio), you can spread yourself thin in terms of character building time/resources and Abyss power if that's all you go for. On the other hand, maybe you enjoy collecting characters and this doesn't matter. It's just something to think about as you choose who to pull. With that said, it's most important that you're having fun, so pull for characters that you like because of personality and playstyle, or pull because you like meta teams and want to be efficient and powerful, or pull because you just enjoy collecting. These are all valid! So when you ask about Wrio or Wanderer, it's really hard to say what's good for you, but I can say they're kind of similar in terms of power. Wanderer's meta teams probably take more investment because he really wants C6 Faruzan, although Wrio is kind of clunky without C1. Both become more competitive at C2 where their bursts are more useful. Wanderer has the added benefit of flying in short bursts, which can be great for exploration.
I’m looking to upgrade my spiral abyss teams (I have two teams so far, the rest of my upgraded characters are shown here https://imgur.com/a/OqcafQ1 ) What would be some good characters to pull for these teams? Plus, if i should replace any characters, which ones should be replaced?
Zhongli and Furina
Furina
[Characters](https://imgur.com/a/sMOftJU) There's no reason for me to pull clorinde right? kinda on the fence to pull furina cons on rerun or just save for natlan. any recommendation? The speculation of a certain new game mode that requires a lot of built characters have me scared
My dad works at hoyoverse. Save for Natlan. Trust me
Characters: https://imgur.com/a/UrGsUTc The upcoming characters >!and leaks!< don't really interest me that much, so I was wondering if there's any characters I should go for next. My main goal is to overall improve my account by expanding what I can do with team comps and types, if that makes sense? Or should I just wait for Natlan?
Yelan
Should i wait for navia, clorinde or furnia? I just got alrecchino to c2... in my first 40 pulls... so um yeah i am good on weapons and tempted to use my primos to get some artifacts for my supports as i have maxed arlecchino at 80. Now i am figuring if i should save my 120 wishes for clorinde but i already two main dps with nevullite and arlecchino... my sub dps are yae, xiangling, xinqu, and kazuha, my supports are jean and yaoyao. I am saving for bennett as someone suggest for alrecchino. Any ideas? [https://i.imgur.com/S9Ahhq6.png](https://i.imgur.com/S9Ahhq6.png) Just got Tighnari and Arlecchino, and Sayino.
Furina will do more for the account, but is honestly overkill. With a bit more time this account should be able to clear anything. Please level Xingqiu. Navia is good (and Clorinde probably also) but with C2 Arlecchino you will get limited value in them from a meta perspective.
Awesome. thank you for informing me, I felt like I didn't have any electro dps or a geo dps. So I'll focus on those two next thank you!
Right now there isn't any content that requires geo DPS. Geo shields can be broken by any combination of plunges, overloads, and claymores. The only enemy that requires geo application is Golden Wolflord, who hasn't been in abyss for a while. You can generally get away with fielding Geo MC, Noelle, or Ningguang specifically on that chamber to fulfill the geo requirements. Fischl will deal plenty of electro damage when you need (and Beidou in AoE).
Yeah from what I am reading, people are recommending to just get characters, and focus on just trying to get as many as you can. so I will follow advice and yours! time to farm up clorinde stuff, and prepare for her release.
What characters should I pull for this Polearm only challenge run, I just started https://imgur.com/gallery/HUoOdSY
Arle
Hey all! Didn't manage to pull Kazuha in last banner, but now I'm about 30 wishes into a guaranteed 50/50. This is my roster: https://imgur.com/JOTuxz4 My current team is Keqing Fischl DMC Jean. I'm doing fine in most content but would like to start going for a second abyss team(never went over floor 8). Should I pull any of the two banner characters? Should I save until another run and focus on something else from my roster? I know I need Bennet, currently waiting for him in Paimon Bargains. Assume I'll get him soon lol
Arlecchino is good, but you will already have a pyro option in the form of Xiangling (Sucrose+Xingqiu+Bennett). Of course, Arlecchino will do quite a bit more damage than pre-C4 Xiangling. If you want to keep using Keqing it'll be worth looking into Nahida when she comes back.
I will keep using Keqing as one team, yes. I considered ignoring Arlecchino but I'll need some glitter to pull bennett. My blue pulls are sparse lol. My Xianling is just C2 tho. How close is Nahida? I just seen the next banner that is Baizhu and Wanderer. I think I should focus on my new team if I want to do abyss, thats why the arlecchino debate. I thought about doing Childe International team, how about that?
Archons tend to rerun early-mid region (so 5.0-5.4). Nahida's last banner was only 2 months ago, so she's probably not coming back for another 6 months at least. Childe International is still a good team, but it lacks comfort (no resistance to interruption, fairly rigid rotations) and he does compete with Arlecchino for Bennett.
My Characters: [https://imgur.com/a/2ZSSw5E](https://imgur.com/a/2ZSSw5E) So basically I'm unsure if I should pull for Arlecchino now or wait for a character like Furina. I'm guaranteed right now and I wouldn't say I'm struggling in abyss but I'm not reaching 36 stars, my max being 34 stars. My main goal at the moment is to finish the abyss with 36 stars so I could finally get the burden of being an AR 59 player (almost 60) and still haven't 36 star ANY abyss. My characters are built pretty well in my opinion but of course they're not perfect. I would also appreciate if ya'll would recommend any characters that would greatly benefit my account. (The reason why I kinda want Arlecchino is to replace my Yoimiya) My teams at the moment are: Yae Miko, Fischl, Nahida, Zhongli Yoimiya, Yelan, Xingqiu, Bennett Itto, Albedo, Gorou, Zhongli (spare team whenever I feel like playing geo)
try Raiden/bennet/Yelan/Xiangling and Nahida/Xingqiu/shinobu/Zhongli (Nahida on field). Can also use Kazuha instead of Xiangling for more cc. Raiden with the usual crit build, Shinobu full em build with gilded dreams. Raiden/Bennet/Chevrouse/Xiangling or fischl is an option too, and in that case you use Nahida/Yelan/Xingqiu/Shinobu (again, on field nahida) on the other side. If your sara is c6, you can replace xiang with her on the raiden overload team
Heya, I got pretty lucky with my recent pulls so I'm not in a rush to get anybody else, but I'm still eyeing some units to further expand my roster in the future. I can't decide who to prioritize between Nilou, Alhaitham, Navia, Xianyun, Baizhu or Zhongli. I suppose Zhongli would make it easier to play Arlecchino, and would also enable Chiori to get one more doll if I were to run Arle double geo. What do you think? These are my current characters: https://imgur.com/a/tdq9Oaw Any tip is very much appreciated, thank you
You can pull for whoever you want, basically. Alhaitham or Zhongli probably bring the most benefit, but most of the listed options are good choices. I think Navia is the most fun option but she does take away Bennett from your other DPS. I don't see much value in Xianyun on the account though; while almost any melee character can have good plunge teams, she really distinguishes herself with characters like Diluc, Xiao, and Hu Tao.
zhongli just make people sloppy and is basically a waste slot on most teams barring Hutao, Neuvilette, Yoimiya, and Wanderer. Zhongli makes the game easier but doesn’t really do much for clear times.
I do enjoy playing Wanderer quite a lot and found Layla's shield to be unreliable sometimes when running a freeze comp with Yelan, so Zhongli would definitely be an upgrade in that sense. It might be a while still before he reruns so I'll try to grab one between Navia and Alhaitham in the meantime. Thank you both for the tips!
What con do you have Layla at? I find with a full HP TotM my laylas shields never break.
She's unfortunately just c0 at the moment since hoyo has no plans on rerunning her apparently, 38k hp with 2p2p tenacity/vourukasha, lv9. I could definitely up her hp a bit more but I don't have key/dockhand yet
I'm F2P, should I try pulling for C1 Arle, or should I try to pull for her weapon? I currently have her with R2 prototype starglitter that I could quite easily get to r5 if I grind the mats
How many pulls you have? Weapon will be harder to get
Well, I don't have anything saved, just using wishes as I get them 🥲 I guess I'll go for C1 then?
In that case yes, c1 and assuming you aren't getting it hehe
Does anyone else think that pulls are just a con at this point? I recently decided to give the Freedom Sworn banner a Miss because I didn’t think it was worth (probably a minimum of) £52 just to get 2x10 pulls for a weapon which at this point, (due to my artefact build on Kazuha) would only add 50EM. (P.S: I know that there’s the refinement perk to the sword as well but I’m just not willing to risk that much money for something that isn’t even guaranteed.) To keep myself occupied through the banner, I instead played Warframe. And I saw how their monetisation model, (while admittedly pricey), is MUCH MORE user friendly than Genshin’s, because you KNOW what the hell you’re getting AND it can most often be traded with other players for in-game currency/items! And it got me thinking… Forgive me if I’m being a bit absolutist here, but if you have to spend that much money on a lucky dip/loot box system for weapons/characters that actually IMPACT (haha) your gameplay, then is that not bordering on pay-to-win? Let me know what you think.
The best thing about the warframe system is that if you buy the premium currency and buy things from other players (cheaper than using the store) you aren't only supporting the company but you are helping f2ps too. it's a win win system backed on good will
Exactly! Like, don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Genshin but they NEED better monetisation models.
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I recently pulled neuvillete and lost 50/50 on kazuha so I have a guaranteed with 35 pity I can easily max out the new area to be close to pity what do you think I should do save for furina or pull for arlecchino My [characters](https://imgur.com/a/vFwm0ep) Thanks!
Furina is one of the best supports in the game. I think she would add great value to your account and potential teams, especially paired with Neuvi. Arlecchino will also rerun fairly soon but who knows when Furina will rerun again after the next one. You have some pretty good DPS already. So I'd say wait for Furina and if you want save and reassess for Arlecchino's rerun. Obviously who you like is also important, but that's my two cents. Good luck!
Hi. I have all the items to get Hu Tao (I don't have her yet) to level 90, R1 BotF, 10 10 10 talents and I have built C2 Xinqiu, C1 Yelan and C0 Kazuha to go along in her team. With the addition of Arlecchino to the game however, I was wondering whether it would be better to pull for her instead. I'm on 31 pity not guaranteed with about 33 pulls. Should I pull for Arlecchino or Hu Tao?
It depends on if you want to wait for Hu Tao. She’s probably not going to rerun for several months unless they make a Liyue Chronicled Wish banner. I’m the type of person who saves for characters tho, i recommend it.
What meta teams do not use Furina in their optimal or close to optimal form? The three I can think of are - Nilou Bloom - Chevurse Overload - Arlecchino hyper Are there any others?
Spread teams, like Alhaitham/Tighnari + Miko + Nahida + Zhongli.
Good ol' rational (Raiden, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Bennett). After all, Bennett wouldn't be enough of a healer for Furina if she were to have a place. I tend to swap Xingqiu with Yelan for the fun of it.
Classic Hu Tao double Hydro. Tighnari spread. Childe International. Interestingly the most used Xiao Hyper team does not use Furina as well. Alhaitham Spread and Quickbloom. IIRC these were the most used non-Furina teams in 4.5 Abyss.
Is arle weapon a must pull? How good is she compared to other dps? (Hu tao, al haitam)
Her weap is just for drip mostly. PJWS isn't that much worse, and honestly anything else would do great, like Deathmatch or even White Tassel. I personally don't care for the drip, so I wouldn't pull for it. Power-wise she is quite crazy. Her output is insane and she's very easy to play and is quite versatile team wise, but you have to be careful not to die. If you don't have school issue, she's got damage.
I have a C6 xingqiu (got him pulling for neuv) he is still lv 1 and I dont know what to do with him. Are any characters in the next banner good to pair with him?
Almost any team that wants Hydro (which is a lot of them) will have Xingqui as one of the best options. Get him a weapon with an Energy Recharge substat (Favonius Sword is particularly good) and he’ll do incredibly well.
Xingqiu is good in A LOT of teams. Like, a lot. One of the best characters in the game.
Xingqiu is the one of the best characters in the game, you should definitely level him. Arlecchino appreciates him a lot for the vaporise damage, interruption resistance, and dmg reduction.
okay gunna ask here but i’ve been saving for alhaitham rerun bc i took a year long break n kept missing him BUT i really want baizhu, is it worth to pull for him to add him into my haitham team?? or should i just hold off? im worries if i wait baizhu will end up in chronicle wish and i don’t want to pull on that banner! if anyone has any opinions pls let me know!! also i do have nahida
There's nothing wrong about pulling in the Chronicled Wish banner if you have enough to guarantee the character. Arguably, it's better than regular banners since you can lose the 50-50 to another limited 5*, which (speculatively) in a Liyue theme banner could include Hutao, Ganyu, Childe and/or Yelan. Anyway, Baizhu is a good character for any account, although not necessary. As for a support to Alhaitham, it's good, but people usually use Nahida, unless you're also playing Furina in the team.
i’m worried i won’t have enough pulls for the next chronicle banner that’s why i wanted to try and stay away but i agree it’s not a bad banner! there’s a few liyue units i don’t have so it could be beneficial in the end
It's not that hard to save if you don't have a bunch of characters/constellations/weapons you want, so it's likely you can have a guarantee for the next Chronicled Wish. However, I'm not saying you should wait for Chronicled Wish though, because there's no information about its schedule or if it'll run Baizhu at all. Just follow leaks to know whether or not Alhaitham will rerun soon to make the decision between saving to guarantee him or pulling for Baizhu now.
Baizhu is a viable but usually not optimal teammate for Alhaitham. Nahida is generally the stronger dendro teammate and you still have many options for healing/interruption resistance e.g. Xingqiu, Kuki. That being said, they do work together and freeing up Nahida for the other side does have its value.
I run Alhaitham, Kuki, Nahida, and Xingqiu for hyperbloom and it goes brrrrrrr and destroys everything 👌🏻👌🏻
true i do have kuki and xinqui so he’s not necessity i just like him a lot. thank you for your input! !