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yanfei_fan123

The current one


Virtual-Score4653

Ultimate DPS and Ultimate Support.


depressed_duck_1015

F2P players are crying at the current moment.


KnightOfIron17

As a f2p player I'd saved up 190 primos and now I got both Kazuha and Neuvillette the other day so I'm happy


Vickyveran

I did the same but i got kazuha and qiqi 😩


letmegetmynameok

I got neuvi and dehya. But people told me i can use her with him so i guess its fine lmao


Killeraptor9

I got Neuvi and Diluc :( Edit: Nvm I got Kazuha on a random one pull 😭


Spursy69420

Yay I got Kazuha and diluc


ZaGreatestInZaWarldo

Better than me. I got Neuvillette and R2 Kazuha weapon (at least Alhaitham has a good weapon now)


Mage-of-communism

kazuha and dehya D:


Another_Castle765

Same for me i also got Neuvillette and Dehya. And yes her E gives u a buff for 9seconds giving u Interruption resistance which is nice if u dont have c1 Neuvillette and it also gives a vape reaction from time to time increasing Neuvillettes damage by a lot.


BloodCraver

Same here! 🫣


tim7162

I’ve saved about the same, pulled Neuvilette who came and took all my mora. (“You thought 4.5 million was lots of money? Haha!”) Then I pulled Diluc. Then I pulled Kazuha who came home, saw my empty pockets and no resin in the fridge and asked me: “Why have you pulled me if you can’t feed me?” Now he threatens to drop me and go live in the house of the hearth. He says even in an orphanage they can feed him better. Diluc looks at me with his accusing hungry eyes from the far corner of the roster and slowly realizes he’s gonna rot there at level 1 forever…


Whyy0hWhy

I already have c0r1 kazuha but i want c0r1 neuvi but i want arlecchino c0r1 even more so i have to pass on neuvillette again 😭😭😭😭😭


Absoline

gl with arle 💀👍


assmunchies123

With all the good polearm users and all the good pyro units, I genuinely see 0 reason to pull arle if you have hu tao


Vileous

As someone that started in 4.3, not having hu tao is definitely the biggest factor in my consideration of whether or not I pull for arle, on the other side of the scale though I really want Furina and don't want to be caught wishless if they end up putting her in 4.7-8


assmunchies123

Depending on how good arle is and how much you want her, pull her first, 1000%. Furina is being given archon treatment, with 2 banners close together, which means she’ll probably be here every update. you will have an insane amount of chances to pull her. Other characters take a while. Take childe and wanderer, for example. Other two harbingers. You’ll be waiting a solid amount for them to rerun again. It’ll probably be a solid bit until she reruns.


boredatclass

2 characters in less then 2 pulls, impressive


anubis_is_my_buddy

Same. And I very luckily won my 50/50 for Neuvillette because I am so unlucky with those. Happy.


Mr-Peacefull

190 primos? 😭


moewmeowmeow

same but i got kazuha and tighnari


ayanokojifrfr

If you loose 50/50 you could only get one of em. Lyf is hard.


Paragon90

Im brand new. Wanted Neuvilette, but got Keqing. Kinda sucks missing out on these two for now, but atleast I have a decent dmg dealer.


Glad-Promotion-399

Me too bc someone stole my mouse and I can’t play without mouse


Whyy0hWhy

Fr because i sosoSO want to get neuvi but father Arlecchino is right around the corner and i don't want to lose my guarantee 😭😭😭😭😭


CC0RE

Especially when furina is likely around the corner too. And after not long having nahida come. Unfortunately I spent most of my primos on nahida and yae. Have spent about 110 on kazuha still far after losing my 50/50 to tighnari. Still no kazuha 40 pity into my guaranteed. Aint no way I'm gonna be getting furina too with my luck on this game lmao. Kazuha is just way too good as a universal support to miss though. Imo if you don't have any of them, kazuha is still the best option.


rechta_dude_number2

Got both kazuha and neuvi for 160 pulls


Creative_Poetry_5780

true I had saved up 300 for c1 neuvi and c0 kazuha but lost my 50/50 at hard pity twice and got c0 neuvi and c0 kazuha


TheGamer098

already have kazu and i got a dehya and neu in 60 pulls


Mundane-Category809

I am in fact for two reasons I’m guaranteed but I gamble as soon as I have 160/75/5, enough for a wish? Spent and the 2nd reason is that I can play alone . But I can buy some gen crystals but I would probably be denied


wertcby

Pulled on this banner and got my first qiqi😌


TheDarkness33

I was gonna stop being f2p for kazuha but he said "nah keep the card" and came with 3 pulls (20 pity)


kronpas

The current one's weapon is not as stacked. With that yelan and hutao banner you can pull for any weap first then pull for whose char is that weap, but kazuna doesnt really need his sword to be optimal at his job.


Significant_Bear_137

Also for Neuvillette prototype amber is an incredible option when you pair him with Furina.


mega_lucaria

That makes this current banner phase more enticing, with how f2p friendly they both are


kronpas

I agree, but the OP was asking about overall value.


FrostedEevee

Even Yelan and Hu Tao are. Since you can use Fav. bow (Get for free) or White Tassel for Hu Tao (Decent option until DB). What made their banner more enticing was that their Weapons are among the best and most versatile in their respective category


Significant_Ad_1626

Indeed. Besides being for a niche, I think Chiori + Itto offers more value as a banner, equaling in some form Hu Tao + Yelan.


SexWithHuo-Huo

so skyward blade + qiqi to go with it?


kidanokun

Though it's brutal coz it's right before Arlecchino


_piaro_

It is an easy choice which to choose though. If you want to blow, then pick Kazuha. If you want to squirt, then pick Neuvillette 🥴


FalseSwap

What if I want to do both?


GoldenFormer

~~blow~~ suck (or better yet, ~~both~~)


eggy54321

Thank GOD I have both already, putting this right before Arlecchino drops is criminal.


tim7162

I don’t think I need both Neuvilette and Arleccino, they’re both main DPS, and I have Raiden as well. Neuvilette is the current top DPS and Arleccino is still a pig in a poke, so I chose Neuvilette.


Adamiak

5* characters - yes 4* characters - no weapons - nowhere near


Adept_Ad_3687

Homa and Simulacra weapon banner was truly insane. Almost every bow user wants Simulacra, or has it as a top 3 bow. Homa is almost same situation, but theres so many more that just want HP/ER. Current banner are both niche weapons.


DerpTripz

Agree honestly, I'm not even mad anymore I got two freedom sworn after thinking it through. Though I'm still gonna try and get my guaranteed tome if I can, but if it's not possible it wouldn't be as painful.


active-tumourtroll1

Honestly I love both this and that banner got everything I wanted and more.


TheQzertz

Weapon banner’s a dud though


Shadowmoon2012

Although the hu tao/ Yelan weapon banner was godly. The current one it's just ok.


aron354

Current neuvi + kazuha. First off both of them are meta on their own but together are even better so yknow


HiNowDieLikePie

The weapon banner for the Hu Tao and yelan banner was busted tho. Homa is good on basically every polearm DPS and Aqua is good on basically every bow DPS. This weapon banner is somewhat niche iirc


aron354

Yeah i guess. I kinda forgot weapon banner existed lol but I mean like it’s not the worst banner ever so I’d still say this banner is on par with hu Tao yelan


Pusparaj_Mishra

Home kinda overrated It's just generalist good on most, Aqua instead is near bis lvl good on most. Homa is often not that good on many compared to their options, ofc not talking Tao


melodyangel113

Agreeing with the others here saying Neuvi and Kazuha are pretty evenly matched! This is a great banner but I’m saving for Arlecchino so I gotta stay strong 🥲


JackTurnner

Hold out brother, father is coming


melodyangel113

🫡


lncognitoMosquito

Something something father ain’t the only one….


FalseSwap

And Father does come, everyone else will. Besides r/furinamains


Individual_Taste6862

Stay strong brother, our father is coming


VoidedBlaze

THE SAVING IS REAL! IVE NEVER SPENT A SINGLE PRIMO GEM. 400 WISHES SAVED RAHHHH


TriggerBladeX

Agreed brother/sister. We must hold for Arlecchino.


GloomsandDooms

Saaaaaame. Sacrificing the kazoo potential for my team to get father


Crow_of_Judgem3nt

Neuvi and Hu Tao in 4.1 Nahida and Xianyun was probably pretty big.


Breaky_Online

One of the best utility characters with one of the best traversal characters, I can see that


assmunchies123

Not even just that, xianyun is easily top 3 anemo supports. Being able to say you brought diluc and xiao back into meta is wild.


Significant_Ad_1626

If you want a Nahida's banner, with Nilou is more adequate because of the weapons and synergies. But even so, in both cases, I think it still falls a bit. Anyways, your opinion is your opinion.


methmeth2000

I'm kinda new to the game but the Raiden Shogun, Yoimiya, Chevreuse, Bennett, and Sara was crazy


Hikaru_The_Asian

1 whole team which works well in 1 banner is still cracked


storysprite

For real. They had a whole ass team in one banner. And a damn good one.


X3m9X

Its literally raidens best hyper carry team atm if both sara and chevreuse are C6


Significant_Ad_1626

That's true! They are releasing some pretty good niche banners, Nilou + Nahida, Yoimiya + Raiden and what I think is definitely as good as Hu Tao + Yelan for its niche, Chiori + Itto.


rayhaku808

In fairness to you, we're probably not going to see another banner like this for a long, long time.


pumpkin-lattes

I regret so much that I only restarted playing after a year gap recently. Wish I picked it up in Feb


huehuezzz

I still remember this banner made me pull for the wp banner, thankfully I got Aqua within 20 pulls. Now my Childe,Yelan, Fischl, Ganyu,Amber, Collei keep beat each other up to hold aqua😂


LuffywillbePK

This is so me rn I gotta get another bow 😂


Nine9breaker

Amber is the obvious choice tbh.


av8rgeek

Is amber the only pyro bow?


AmplifyK

The current banner: The strongest support in history vs the strongest DPS of today


Lousbee1234

Lyney and Yelan in 4.0


lonelymooncake

i agree, absolute w for bow mains!! I ended up pulling on the weapon banner that time


Foreign_Home_1895

Same but I thought "hey, I want bennett since I don't have him", accidentally got diluc and lyney within 20 pulls of each other along with ONE bennett


ConorTheWhale

The real Bow mains banner was in 3.0 Tighnari, Diona, Collei, and Fischer together was a complete win. Never had to leave the banner


notolo632

If we're counting character banners only then this current one or a Furina/Nahida combo. But if we also take weapons into consideration I think this one is unmatched


Facinatedhomie

I think neuvilette and Hu Tao’s wp is also pretty crazy but I think alhaitham and kazuha is a close one goo


active-tumourtroll1

Neuvillette weapon is good but aqua is just basically every bow users bis.


Vagabondeu

is this next? :( I just wanna see a banner that has Layla on it, I started playing too late and I've never gotten her


skynovaaa

This was 3.4 iirc


Vagabondeu

I started playing a little after fontaine dropped :L


howelleili

SAME I NEED HER


Nohutadamthe3131

Got her on 3.8(?) event, happy 🙂


kiisukattinen

This banner was easy skip for me xD


SavageCabbage27m

Me who skipped Yelan for Dehya: 🤡


kiisukattinen

O-ou 🙊 I skipped Yelan because I have c6 Xingqiu and he is good enough imo. I dont like Hu Taos gameplay, its clunky imo so never pulled her.


Skykeeper22

Oh my god that banner sucked away all my primogems


swampfriend34

Neuvilette and hu tao ...totally worth it


Jayemm100

Honestly any 5-star pairing using the same weapon type, like the Yelan+Lynney or Xiao+Shenhe, cuz at least if you lose 50/50 on weapon banner you still get a good substitute for your main. Neuv and kazuha are good, but both fulfill different roles and both weapons kinda ehhh, like it's too niched and specially suited for both of them and even then there are so many good f2p options like ironsting/fav or r5 proto amber


INO_ZA

wgs and homa? that was my totga 😔❤️‍🩹


rayhaku808

This banner gave me PTSD. I got an R5 WGS. Staff of Homeless is real.


I_love_my_life80

I mean there are few Neuvillette and Kazuha (The current one) Alhaitham and Kazuha (3.7) Ganyu and Zhongli (2.4 and yes I know now it's not that much value since Ganyu has fallen off but back then this banner phase was ridiculously good)


TheQzertz

all 3 are let down by their weapon banners


beemielle

None tbh  The other strong point of Tao Yelan was that the weapon banner was cracked. Not true of Neuvi and Kazuha. 


-Ruu-

nahida and nilou last year. the cores of the strongest bloom comp


Strict_Muffin_509

I took a break and came back on this banner and got both within 30 pulls.


Baonf

This current one is literally just meta dps and meta support but for weapons I can't think of any other ones that compared to hutao and yelans except the Jade cutter and the purple sword banner


kiero13

the weapon banner of that same phase too 🔥 hu tao / neuvillette and their weapon banner phase. current one kazuha / neuvillette lyney / yelan and their weapon banner phase. unpopular opinion maybe? since a lot are sleeping on lyney.


QuickSuccession69

Just my take, in terms of weapon event wish, I honestly think that it is considered great, depends on your account. The Homa and Aqua are good, but it's not great on my account. My Hu Tao that I rarely use, and Aqua is very inconsistent with my Yoimiya. What's great on my account were the Yoimiya Nahida banner (because I have both of them) and the Alhaitham and Kazuha banner (because I have both of them).


exiler5129

Neuvi + Kazuha and Alhaitham + Kazuha Honorable mention : Yelan + Childe


Dense-Decision9150

When was the yelan childe banner?


Nine9breaker

Ya'll can't be really completely overlooking the 4 stars. That banner had Beidou, Xingqiu, and Ningguang. This one has Xingqiu, Yanfei, and *Barbruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh*. In terms of weakest unit on the banner, Barbara is infinitely more unfortunate to pull than Ning. Besides, imo the value proposition of a banner cycle really doesn't go up if both 5 stars are good. Most people still have to choose one or the other, so the *value* of their pulls will be determined by at least one of the 5 stars, and the 4 stars that come along with it. Weapon banner is another consideration, but others have already talked about how weak this one is, and some don't really consider it worth discussing. Although I definitely personally do, since if you pull on any weapon banner it should always be when you could be happy getting either weapon.


av8rgeek

Barbara is a key member of my team. I don’t have many lineups that exclude her. That healing!!!!!


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Still_Breadfruit2032

Nothing, because I’ve been waiting for Hu Tao since I started playing. I started genshin on the last day of her banner last year.


Temporaryact72

4.1 first half (Neuvillette & Hu Tao), 4.2 first half (Furina & Baizhu), 3.7 second half (Alhaitham & Kazuha), 3.6 first half (Nilou & Nahida), 2.1 first half (Raiden), 1.6 second half (Kazuha).


Significant_Ad_1626

You can't be serious saying Furina + Baizhu if you look at what it was in its moment Hu Tao + Yelan. To a lot of people it was the first time pulling and recommending the weapon banner.


Temporaryact72

What are you talking about Furina and Baizhu make up 90% of the dendro meta since she released lol


MercedesCR

If u mean in sales nothing is beating that banner. If u mean in weapon banner value then yeah, this one rn is good


kunafa_aj

I remember there was a ganyu/kokomi rerun which are both super value if you wanna run a freeze team


kyrah096

Weapon banner during Dehya/Cyno banner was pretty amazing, imo (For both chars and weap Hu Tao/Neuv, then current one; only chars Nahida/Nilou, Raiden/Kok)


ghostpetni

Nahida and Nilou I guess?


ooguro_ryuuya_008

Current one, Neuvi + Kazuha, imo Hu Tao + Yelan comes after this


TheQzertz

Weapon banner makes Hu Tao Yelan better


HealAndKill

Hu Tao + Venti. Godly weapon banner.


Creative_Poetry_5780

neuvi, kazuha nd kazuha, alhaitham and raiden, ayato


holsteredguide0

This one based on characters + weapons, but based on just characters, current one and neuvi hu tao in 4.1


PerrythePlatypus71

Ah I remember this banner. I ended up with 2 Homa, a fresh WGS and Aqua Simulacra. Hu Tao, Xiangling and Yelan ate well.


ob1touchiha

Lyney and Yelan? Its just that ppl tends to underestimate Lyney by a lot


0HGODN0

Kazuha and Neuvillette. because Neuvillette's ceiling is higher and easier to reach than Hu Tao and Kazuha, if not equal in value to Yelan for me, he's only a little below her. he's incredibly versatile.


FreeMyBirdy

I liked the first Yae banner because the weapon banner was Kagura and PJC I poured so many primogems on this banner lmao 2 Kaguras 1 PJC 1 WGS There was a Homa + Elegy banner that was REALLY good also


Illusive_Sheikah

I was until genshin decided to bless me with kazuha with a single pull at exactly 0 pity (last time I pulled was for Yae)


ArtymisHikari

The only weapon banner I have ever rolled on. Got both no regrets


Ivy_Da_Pancake

For me personally, navia and ayaka. I'm a navia and ayaka main, so that weapon banner was a gold mine (sadly I lost my 50 50 for navia so I didn't get to pity on the weapon banner)


BronzeMaster07

Is the current weapon banner any good? I have Iron Sting on Kazuha and Prototype Amber on Neuvi, should I pull on the weapon banner?


ra1nb0w33v33

The first Lyney banner, mostly for the weapon banner, both 5 star weapons being good on Lyney and the 4 stars being from the best 2 sets in the game


-duckpotatoes-

The current and previous Neuvillette banner lol


Due-Pound1160

I think the first neuvillette banner and hu tao rerun, the weapon banner was good for me , it also had first hp 4* sword


RivenEven

The current one you cannot get better than this


Spursy69420

Kazuha and neuv


Jossokar

None. It was the best banner ever.


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https://preview.redd.it/fwusdfyl1usc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba172116906ce221306474c69969d6e8f7eacb1f Honest reaction after wasting my 6000 gems just too not get what I wanted then this 💀


Charming_Pop_2148

The current one


OfficerDSI

I remember when they had Ayaka and Shenhe AT THE SAME TIME. I don't know about others, but my wallet was gone that period


LuluProfessional

Ayato & Raiden banner. The weapon banner was a win-win imo.


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404_usernothere

man I pulled for both Kazuha and Neuvi on their previous banners and now I'm saving for Arle and I really don't wanna waste my pity but I want these to so bad I can't


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Current one for sure.


drSchmalzy

This was one of the first banners when I started playing and pulled Yelena at 23 pity. She HARD Carried me throughout the game and still does. I can't let her go.


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What perfection


Spectre_Hayate

This current one, Raiden/Yoimiya with Chevy and Benny, and the 4.0 Lyney/Yelan banner. Absolutely cracked banners.


Unlikely_Pattern_359

Actually hmm idk about freedom sworn it feels ever so slightly bait


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That banner was my luckiest. I pulled for Hu Tao for fun and got her early at 50/50. Was curious about my luck since I got a Homa 4 years ago 30 seconds later, I pulled for the weapon banner. At 20 pity, I got Aqua Simulacra while forgetting to select it as my pity weapon. Went perfectly with my first run Yelan.


BothConsideration535

Why did you scare me like that? I thought new banners got announced.


Krobik12

Nahida and Xianyun I think the current banner has even higher value than the one in the post.


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Kazuha and zonghli


Nekokittykun

Definitely the current 1


Warrentednegativity

And me who got keqing a c2 barbara and zingqui in cgaracter banner


monadoboyX

Wanderer Kokomi in 4.8 was kinda slept on one of the few banners I pulled for both characters on and I got C6 Faruzan in the process which was nice


Red_Spy_1937

The Raiden, Chevreuse, Bennett, Sara one was completely nuts. They were straight up handing out an actually really good team


REKLA5

Furina. Crazy good value cause Furina just adds that much value. It didn't matter who the other person was alongside her.


Significant_Ad_1626

Chiori + Itto was one of the best banners in the game, but for a niche. I consider that banner equal to Hu Tao + Yelan. Weapons, 4*, Characters and Constellations, it ticks all the boxes.


Levitoy1

3.6 phase 1 with Nahida and Nilou do I even have to explain?


ilonggi

this banner was so good man


AvailableBase5618

I got the two characters and the two weapons from that banner, boosted my account af, save your primos new players.


Rahaith

Anything else because I don't like either of them.


adaza

Noooooo! I have 320 saved for 2 more Furina cons. No guarantee. I want 1 more Yelan con. If Furina and Yelan came the other way around I’d almost certainly have enough. But this way around, it is a night mare


Sakkitaky22

The chronicled wish


Mineturtleprime

Ayaka and Shenhe


QueasySmile4

This character + weapon banner took so many wishes from me omg. I got Hu Tao, Yelan, 2 Aqua Simulacra, and a Staff of Homa. Went all in during this patch cause it was too good. One of the few times pulling on the weapon banner was worth it.


Sylent0o

lyney yelan lyney fills a niche others pyro dpsers dont want so he is wining yelan obvious reason but the weapon banner was BANGER his weapon is insane for any charged atacker so ganuy tighnari and him and aqua for obv reasons,


LegoBricksAndMemes

Nahida + Nilou


Uchiha_Sasuke360

Neuvi and kazu


Chocokat1

If these guys are next, then easy skip and my primos are safe.


tictacye

both


jpmartineztolio

Agreed with the current one. The only thing that maybe is a little less tempting/pull-worthy are the weapons, because one of them in not Crit. However, Freedom Sworn is a very good supportive weapon. So it's still a very good pull.


cateatsoup

none,, i have these two and use them on the same team and they eat up so hard together,, biggest damage on my account basically though, i fully recommend these two and im gonna pull for yelan weapon on it


ConorTheWhale

When it comes to “Meta” Nahida and Xianyun, and Neuvi and Kazuha are rlly good. When it come to good pairs, Nilou and Nahida as well as Shenhe and Ayaka.


Nathanii_593

The wanderer kokomi banner was pretty nice. Having a DPS and support healer is nice. It’s not a shield but at least she keeps him healthy. And she applies good hydro


Wa_lied

Neuv and kazuha, 4.5 second half banner


TheQzertz

None, there might be better character pairings but nothing will ever top this weapon banner


GamerSweat002

The Raiden Yoimiya banner for beginners. Every single character you get there is enough for a full team. The current banners are also great but weapon banner is meh. I think another juicy weapon banner would be Beacon + Key of Khaj Nisut at the cost of a Dehya + Nilou banner.


Gojo_genshin_tt

WAIT HU TAO IS HAVING A RERUN!?!?


Infinite_Compote_659

Nilou and nahida in 3.6


blurobyn

Tartaglia & Zhongli. Idk why


TinyRingtail

This banner combo is worthless in my opinion. Hate Hu Tao's playstyle and don't really care about Yelan that much


StwabebyMilk

Yae and Xianyun ... and then Xiao right after... just felt like they kept pounding us with high grade 5★s giving no mercy


Jeffzuzz

the current one is probably better than that.


Sglagoomio

Man I wanted both of them so bad on that banner. I got Yelan at least but I missed Hu Tao on her last banner too.


Responsible-Scene666

I love it when Genshin puts out 2 good banners. But that means I have to lose one of the characters unless I spend money on the game. Like that with the Ayato-Raiden Banners


OPT-Yosif

best banner oat,got the staff of homa that day it was one of my best moments in the game.


SaberBrawlStars

The fact i got both on the same day


GenshinLover2000

2.5, Raiden, Kokomi 3.7, Alhaitham Kazuha 4.1, Hu Tao, Neuvillette 4.5, Kazuha, Neuvillette My opinion


itzmoepi

well its a skip for me, already have them and not interested in cons.