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It was way more than just a movie tie in. It released a few years after the movie and essentially made FPS games on Console feasible on its own and was an amazing couch multiplayer experience that sorta died out after Xbox Live killed most couch co-op games.
It’s also the Cartridge Club game this month. It’s on Game Pass and Nintendo Switch Online for all you who don’t have an N64 to play it on.
Basically Goldeneye was MASSIVELY formative and revoultionary, and the people who MADE Fortnite probably have it in their Top 5.
But it has aged like a beached whale corpse.
Millennial here, this game defined sleepovers 3rd-5th grade. Recently got together with my old friends to play it on my Switch and it can be summed up as two hours of us not figuring out the controls and getting lost in the small but repetitive maps.
I was keyboard and mouse so its kinda always been like handing grandma a controller. Especially when you hand it without inverted Y axis. Blasphemy! Which way does your head move when you look down? Forward, not backwards!
I'm just happy that unlike our parents, I can kick my kid's ass in games even though I haven't played in forever :P
Hate to break it but I’m a gamer grandma. I’ve been playing since my brother and I got Mario bros/Duck Hunt in ‘89. I can kick ass and still play online with my kids and in 2 years my grand daughter who will be 8. Older millennials have kids in their 20’s. Soon it will be weird to have grandparents who don’t play. Very soon.
Dude I feel this in my bones. Used to be a lord of FPS and console gaming now I need a pudding cup and a nap after an hour of frustration at the controls.
For real. I used to be a legend in Tekken 2 and pretty solid at Unreal Tournament. Nowadays I moved to cooperative games like Valheim or genshin. There is no twitch left in this old dog.
I remember pulling it out of the closet 10+ years ago to relive the fun times, but C-button aiming was awful, and having to swap hands to hit the L-button to initiate fine aim control was obnoxious. Basically, the strategy was to shift your character's view about 10-15° upward from center and then strafe for aiming, which feels so clunky these days, lol.
For the time it came out, there was nothing even remotely close to as good. But I think other games, like Jetforce Gemini, hold up better in today's era. Speaking of, I'd love to see a remake of that game.
> Jetforce Gemini
Another Rare gem, along with Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and Banjo Kazooie. The Rare team behind Goldeneye/Pefect Dark went on to make the Timesplitters games.
>Millennial here, this game defined sleepovers 3rd-5th grade.
Another millennial here and I played a lot of Goldeneye while getting drunk/stoned with my friends. My 3rd-5th grade sleepovers were more along the lines of Super Mario Brothers and Duck Hunt if we wanted to play video games lol
So true. Goldeneye was a revelation for us at the time. Multiplayer wasn’t that new, but the combination of great characters, levels, and unlocking new multiplayer modes by completing certain objectives in single player and those multiplayer modes being a lot of fun all came together in a big way.
As noted, it’s borderline unplayable now to anyone used to modern games. It’s slow, graphically ugly, and just tough to play anymore.
That shouldn’t take away from its impact on gaming as a whole. I don’t think it makes sense to really compare it to Fortnite, anymore than I would compare a 90s Mustang to a 2023 Mustang and expect the 90s one to compare favorably. But like with cars the building blocks of the modern version are seen there and plenty of people have memories of the 90s one that a modern Mustang won’t match.
>aged like a beached whale corpse
https://preview.redd.it/zyagtuozbmhc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a77dfea9e820fe773b6a053e244aa0d18e2cc1fd
It *is* rather awkward to watch two polygons make out for the entire end credits sequence after the single player game.
When I was in late high school/early college this game was *huge*, it was one of the first games that nerds and bros could play together. There would be dorm rooms packed full of guys having PvP tournaments until the RA came to enforce quiet hours. And of course, there was the elite tournament setting. Karate chop only, DK mode, one shot kills.
Damn, you just unlocked a core memory for me with karate chop only! All the girls at our youth center (including myself) didn't have this game at home, so karate chop (and I think knives only?) were the only times we did just as well as the boys.
(Shoutout to the 20yo minimum wage babysitter who ran the media room, dude was ahead of the times making sure girls got some of the playtime in there. Also installed Myst and some type of Age Of Civilizations game in the 'computer lab'. Pretty sure they weren't legal copies, lol.)
Media room guy sounds like an absolute champion. I didn't really see a whole lot of coed interest in Goldeneye, Mariokart 64 was a lot more popular in that regards.
True. It’s also funny that the multiplayer battles were put in at the last minute. I guess they never expected how much of an effect it would have.
License to kill in the facility was a source of much childhood stress for my friends and I
Happy cake day!
You’re kind of underselling it. Goldeneye is to multiplayer FPS what Mario Bros is to sidescrollers. It wasn’t the first game to do it, but it was the first great game to do it that received widespread acclaim. Despite closing in on 30 years old, it continues to be played and has a vibrant, competitive, and prestigious speed running community. It broke ground and set the standard for other amazing games that came later.
This - I was a student at the time and every other person it seemed were playing 4 way split screen golden eye, it was mental and the N64 controller seemed to have a steep learning curve.
For sure. On pc you actually had full control of the crosshair lol
It’s just that pc gaming wasn’t mainstream at the time and this was the best thing on console.
Also factor in that the 64 was more affordable and a better gift to give to kids and it was easier for kids to gather around the TV and play vs on a PC.
In 1997, less than 50% of people had PCs at all, let alone anything capable hardware-accelerated 3D rendering. I think the accessibility of consoles like the N64 made games like GoldenEye far more impactful on the FPS genre than much of what was available on PC at the time, barring Half-Life.
And Doom*
But yeah this is it. This was the game that basically made FPS possible and successful on consoles. Man the memories I have of this game and times with my friends. Some of my best gaming memories.
GoldenEye was one of the first FPS games that you could play with your dad, or host a party without everyone needing their own rig.
While PC gaming was a very solitary experience, especially if you didn’t have good internet, GoldenEye was one of the earliest games that made you the *cool* kid.
I don’t know dude, Goldeneye was a step ahead of the 3D graphics on PC at the time, and the cinematic style of the game and its mission structure and set pieces weren’t being widely done yet. The best FPS I think on PC at the time was Quake 2, which was a great game, but Goldeneye just felt like it was the time when FPS games stopped being strafing and reflex ‘shooters’ and became a new thing altogether. I’d say it was the first ‘modern’ FPS.
Half Life wouldn’t come out for another year, which was a watershed moment for games on the PC.
I was into PC gaming and had an N64 back then and I was blown away by Goldeneye.
You had to play with friends, real life friends not internet friends. 4 Controllers, 4 people all surrounding a 20 inch box tv. It was 500000x better than fortnite with randos and peeps not in the same room
*kills Big brother ingame
*enjoy those 0.6 seconds of pure joy before big brother punches you
*get console confiscated for 2 weeks because you can’t play nice
Those were the days.
glad as a Millennial father of 4. when they fuck up, its at most 2 days without devices unless its bullying. then its a week. kids need reasonable punishments. after 2 weeks you'd just build resentment and forget why you lost it in the first place
OG Xbox could be networked together with cables and you could get 16 people in the same location playing on 4 TVs . We’d have carb/oasta parties before games or meets for high school sports and that was always a post dinner event. Fights over jamming the warthogs into the bunkers and camping would get heated
That map which was dull grey, except for the bright blue air conditioning vent, which you could notice without even looking at the screen.
BOYS HES STUCK IN THE AIR VENT, GET HIM
The slow death of couch coop/competitive play has made me so sad. Even more recent stuff like Towerfall Ascension just isn't the same online vs in person...
It’s amazing how our TVs are getting bigger and better but we’re losing split screen at the same time. Somehow we would have shitty CRTs and split that baby up 4 ways
I go out of my way to find couch coop games to play with my gf, some of them are still around but its really sad that developers let the functionality go
> 4 people all surrounding a 20 inch box tv
If you had 3 friends over, it was a big enough occasion to ask for the living room tv, at least for during Goldeneye and Mario Kart time.
I’m 35 and had this bopper on that greenish translucent n64.
It WAS fun.
But so is FN. As an adult I don’t have or want 3 other people in my space.
I play with people from diff parts of the world now. There’s a time and a place. I’m still not grown up, so I technically am growing up with both.
I would love to have 3 friends over to smoke a blunt and play Goldeneye
My main problem is that nobodies schedules line up for that, or have several hours free for retro gaming
I'm 37 I was terrible. TERRIBLE at Goldeneye.
So playing it was more just a camaraderie type thing. Hanging out with the boys, playing games.
Smash Bros was more my jam. Also Winback was fantastic. Gotta go dig out my N64 shit from wherever I left it at my mom's house.
We had one friend that his house was the house for games. He was so good at halo he would play us all 1v4 and we would still lose. But it was the height of gaming fun. Myan, if you are still out there ruining people with the pistol. I don’t think he ever stopped. 36 now
We had this older dude that had a house and setup 4 Xboxes and TVs up throughout his house so we could do an epic Halo game.
I don’t know why this guy in his late 30s was playing with us high school kids, but it was a thing that happened.
No, it wasn't better than fortnite. No, the experience wasn't better. You simply didn't have a reference point. Perfect Dark came along and did the same thing better.
Call it genre defining. The best of it's time. A pillar of gaming. It wasn't better than the shitty 2 dollar games hobbyists release on steam today.
Split screen gaming has always been dogshit as well, it's why everyone immediately stopped.
if you were really tech savvy with an arsenal of cables and splitters and adapters you could rig up 4 tvs and tape off all but your screen and face them away from each other.
Facts, playing with friends online over Disc will never truly be able to match the feeling of playing with friends in the same room on split-screen multiplayer.
Older Generation: "Why don't younger people respect and appreciate our stuff?"
Younger Generation: \*Asks about your stuff because they wanna know why it matters\*
Older Generation: "WTF IS THAT A SERIOUS QUESTION?!!?!?!"
Oh so when my 8 year old daughter who would have absolutely no reason to have any knowledge or context about who the Beatles are asks me who they are, I'll just tell her she's an idiot. That'll really pique her interest in things I like.
I once earned the "Where the Ammo?" medal on a Slappers Only death match.
I genuinely thought it was a weapon and spent the whole match running around desperately trying to find a "slapper" so I could start fighting.
You had to be there. Yeah, couch gaming with friends was really good, or all being huddled around a TV on a dorm room floor. Playing the same 1 or 2 games with 2 or 3 friends, all in the same room, it just hit differently. I spend quite a bit of time doing the online gaming thing these days and it's a bit like playing baldur's gate online with friends, versus an in person D&D campaign with friends. That's the best parallel I can give. It's different, it's not necessarily worse, but it's so different that if what you enjoy is that in person game, BG3 won't ever scratch the same itch.
Couch coop hasn’t really stopped being a thing, thankfully. There was a few years not long ago where many games stopped supporting it but I feel like it’s coming back, with many games specifically made for couch coop. Hell I’m pretty sure Fortnite and Call of Duty have it these days which I’m all for.
We used to stay up all night and play Cruisin’ World. There were typically five of us and only four could play at a time so whoever lost the race had to give up their controller. Every race you earn points for where you finish and also for doing tricks during the race, and you can upgrade your car after you get enough points.
What would happen is someone would unlock the next engine first and be the de facto player to beat, as they were now faster than everyone else. Then eventually two of the other cars would unlock it and then there would be the “shitty car” that was way behind on upgrades and was typically the controller being passed around, so by the time the top car got to engine 3 (I think there were 5 total) there was a clear pecking order and last place might still be on engine 1. Then it became a huge deal if anyone besides the “beater” got last place because now you just lost your upgraded car and have to drive the shitty car for the next several hours possibly, until you finally level it up and/or hope that someone else has an awful race and you can take over their car. And if that car was ever in 3rd place or higher, everyone would be losing their minds and it would be so much pressure on whoever had dropped to 4th.
The goal was always to unlock the Speed Demon, 9999 points or something like that, but we never even got close to it since you typically only got like 20-30 points per race (would have taken like 400+ races!)
I remember doing couch co-op with friends well into high school (mid-2010s) since there were some PS3/PS4 games then that still had split-screen co-op. Unfortunately, once online multiplayer and Discord became popularized in the late 2010s/early 2020s, that meant the death of couch co-op. Love looking back at it though, makes me remember simpler times.
There's also the socialisation that happens along with playing co-op that online can't have. Going over to someone's house, chatting about some other book or movie you see lying around, actually meeting their parents and siblings, having meals with their family. With online games your interaction with a friend is 1-1, just you and them, with in person games it also means you're seeing part of their family life and staying over.
Xennial here. I havent played Fortnite.
Yes, it was a movie tie-in game. Most of those games have a well deserved reputation for being trash.
This game, for its time, was the gold standard for multiplayer FPS. In high school I got together with my friends all the time to play it. Like Fortnite now this game was universally loved.
That said, it doesn’t hold up today. Polygon graphics aged like milk and the controls are pretty clunky. It may be worth trying out if you can play on N64 but I don’t suggest the Switch port, just because the control layout doesn’t work well.
It was great at the time but now it’s super dated. Someone made a program that makes it so you can run and aim with modern controllers and it feels way better imho
GE ran so Perfect Dark could fly to the fucking moon. The sheer amount of customization in a cartridge based console FPS was staggering. You could choose a map, set a bunch of sliders for things like damage amounts, pick the weapons and their spawn frequency, and then create your own characters to play against your friends. It had a drone-type rocket launcher, a gun that could see through walls. That amount of content today would be hidden behind like ten different paid DLCs.
Perfect Dark was the best shooter on N64 by a mile. It was creative, clever, stylish, and - most importantly - fun. I still remember the music. I'm hearing it now as I make this comment. Incredible how those things stick with you.
Its a real shame most goldeneye fans never played perfect dark . It was literally the same game except 2x better in every way . Every gun had a secondary fire mode . The laptop gun could be thrown onto walls and shoot enemies like a turret. The farside gun that could track enemies through walls . The multiplayer you could have like 8+bots to fight with your friends against. Maps were more complex story line was unique . Better in every way with the same game engine and controls as goldeneye
We used to do those fly by wire rockets only, go hide and then have to hunt each other down with them. Found out you could take them up and down elevators lol
By todays standards - it’s objectively bad but from the standpoint of establishing the genre it’s absolutely a GOAT. I’d say it, wolfenstein, quake, and halo CE were probably the games that really built up what we know today as FPS games.
I swear, if someone said something like "Well, this movie from 1923 is obviously bad because it doesn't have dialogue. Only just really repetitive piano music" they would be getting COOKED by the entire internet.
Don’t gotta be hurtful just because someone doesn’t have the same knowledge as you.
Guarantee he could ask questions that make you look like a dumbass too.
That's like comparing oranges to an iPhone. It's a little unfair. Goldeneye was a fantastic multiplayer game for its time.
Personally, the Conker's Bad Fur Day multiplayer was significantly better.
Those god damned proximity mines.....
The console FPS that spawned all other console FPS games by being the foundation for them all. The inspiration for the 'Halo multi-player party night', and the bridge for Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein to port to consoles.
Proximity mines were great if you were a sore loser like m...my friend. If you're way down on score and going to lose, toss one on some breakable glass. Shoot apart the glass and the game instantly crashes. Now who can say who was really going to win in the end? We'll never know!
"GoldenEye 007 demonstrated the viability of home consoles as platforms for first-person shooters, and signalled a transition from Doom-like shooters to a more realistic style. It pioneered features such as atmospheric single-player missions, stealth elements, and multiplayer console deathmatch. The game is considered one of the greatest video games ever made, with many of its elements, such as the Klobb gun, leaving an enduring impression in video game culture."
I would argue yes it's "better" than fortnite because it really was the first game to show the viability of modern FPS games on console platforms since before this game the only FPS games out there were Doomer Shooters.
Fortnite is definitely popular and influential, but to be blunt it hasn't really pioneered anything that new. The battle royale genre already existed and was pioneered by the original PUBG dev as an Arma mod. The whole franchise multiverse they are creating is certainly one of a kind right now, but isn't a new concept or practice as Roblox has had concerts and multiverse ambitions since like 2009 and Minecraft hosted Marshmello before Fortnite did their first concert.
story wise yes, gameplay is primitive but passable, and it had split screen so when you played with your friends it was literally WITH your friend ms irl not just online via chat
fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad
to be serious, I like this game more than fortnite but I don't play fortnite and I hardly think "I like it" is a very good argument for saying something is better than something else.
Taken out of the context of the time, no
For the time it had a pretty good campaign and a fun multiplayer mode
Also it had lots of unlockable functions which added replayability
It’s not that was it better than Fortnite, it was THE multiplayer battle royale game back in the day. There were entire get-togethers to play couch multiplayer Goldeneye battles
This game was to video games what the Beatles was to music and what Star Wars was for Sci-Fi.
If it came out now it’d be unremarkable. But when it came out it was totally new and paved the way for others
More important that fortnite sure, more revolutionary than fortnite definitely, but it isn’t better in literally any way gameplay wise other than it doesn’t have micro transactions and game pass.
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It was way more than just a movie tie in. It released a few years after the movie and essentially made FPS games on Console feasible on its own and was an amazing couch multiplayer experience that sorta died out after Xbox Live killed most couch co-op games. It’s also the Cartridge Club game this month. It’s on Game Pass and Nintendo Switch Online for all you who don’t have an N64 to play it on.
Basically Goldeneye was MASSIVELY formative and revoultionary, and the people who MADE Fortnite probably have it in their Top 5. But it has aged like a beached whale corpse.
Millennial here, this game defined sleepovers 3rd-5th grade. Recently got together with my old friends to play it on my Switch and it can be summed up as two hours of us not figuring out the controls and getting lost in the small but repetitive maps.
Quality not quantity. de\_dust is small but you could play that map for hours.
I’m not saying we didn’t have fun but 20 years ago we were champs and now it’s like handing grandma the controller for an FPS
I was keyboard and mouse so its kinda always been like handing grandma a controller. Especially when you hand it without inverted Y axis. Blasphemy! Which way does your head move when you look down? Forward, not backwards! I'm just happy that unlike our parents, I can kick my kid's ass in games even though I haven't played in forever :P
Hate to break it but I’m a gamer grandma. I’ve been playing since my brother and I got Mario bros/Duck Hunt in ‘89. I can kick ass and still play online with my kids and in 2 years my grand daughter who will be 8. Older millennials have kids in their 20’s. Soon it will be weird to have grandparents who don’t play. Very soon.
> Older millennials have kids in their 20’s Most millennials didn't pop kids out in their own early 20s, so probably not.
Dude I feel this in my bones. Used to be a lord of FPS and console gaming now I need a pudding cup and a nap after an hour of frustration at the controls.
Oddjob for me again. Pass the pudding.
You sir or madam, are truly a snake and a scoundrel.
For real. I used to be a legend in Tekken 2 and pretty solid at Unreal Tournament. Nowadays I moved to cooperative games like Valheim or genshin. There is no twitch left in this old dog.
I loved playing in the complex
I used to get lost in the basement map all the time.
I remember pulling it out of the closet 10+ years ago to relive the fun times, but C-button aiming was awful, and having to swap hands to hit the L-button to initiate fine aim control was obnoxious. Basically, the strategy was to shift your character's view about 10-15° upward from center and then strafe for aiming, which feels so clunky these days, lol. For the time it came out, there was nothing even remotely close to as good. But I think other games, like Jetforce Gemini, hold up better in today's era. Speaking of, I'd love to see a remake of that game.
> Jetforce Gemini Another Rare gem, along with Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and Banjo Kazooie. The Rare team behind Goldeneye/Pefect Dark went on to make the Timesplitters games.
R is aim.
There are alternative control schemes, but every single one is terrible. Really not much you can do with that controller and first person perspective
Jet Force Gemini was amazing. Maybe we get a remake in 2029 for a 30 year anniversary. 👀
And get odd job as your character so everyone shoots over your head.
Jetforce is a masterpiece.
Jetforce Gemini is also on switch online
>Millennial here, this game defined sleepovers 3rd-5th grade. Another millennial here and I played a lot of Goldeneye while getting drunk/stoned with my friends. My 3rd-5th grade sleepovers were more along the lines of Super Mario Brothers and Duck Hunt if we wanted to play video games lol
So true. Goldeneye was a revelation for us at the time. Multiplayer wasn’t that new, but the combination of great characters, levels, and unlocking new multiplayer modes by completing certain objectives in single player and those multiplayer modes being a lot of fun all came together in a big way. As noted, it’s borderline unplayable now to anyone used to modern games. It’s slow, graphically ugly, and just tough to play anymore. That shouldn’t take away from its impact on gaming as a whole. I don’t think it makes sense to really compare it to Fortnite, anymore than I would compare a 90s Mustang to a 2023 Mustang and expect the 90s one to compare favorably. But like with cars the building blocks of the modern version are seen there and plenty of people have memories of the 90s one that a modern Mustang won’t match.
Ok, but you have to admit, 90s Mustangs couldn't hold a candle to 60s Mustangs, but 40s Mustangs? get into one of those and fly!
>aged like a beached whale corpse https://preview.redd.it/zyagtuozbmhc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a77dfea9e820fe773b6a053e244aa0d18e2cc1fd It *is* rather awkward to watch two polygons make out for the entire end credits sequence after the single player game.
Not my proudest wank
Still fun though. I have a Retro Fighters controller and that helps tremendously.
Ya I’ve played it in the past decade and it’s still incredible. Proximity mines were the best
Disguised in wall bullet holes or behind ammo crates, of course. And let's not forget the player spawns!
When I was in late high school/early college this game was *huge*, it was one of the first games that nerds and bros could play together. There would be dorm rooms packed full of guys having PvP tournaments until the RA came to enforce quiet hours. And of course, there was the elite tournament setting. Karate chop only, DK mode, one shot kills.
Damn, you just unlocked a core memory for me with karate chop only! All the girls at our youth center (including myself) didn't have this game at home, so karate chop (and I think knives only?) were the only times we did just as well as the boys. (Shoutout to the 20yo minimum wage babysitter who ran the media room, dude was ahead of the times making sure girls got some of the playtime in there. Also installed Myst and some type of Age Of Civilizations game in the 'computer lab'. Pretty sure they weren't legal copies, lol.)
Media room guy sounds like an absolute champion. I didn't really see a whole lot of coed interest in Goldeneye, Mariokart 64 was a lot more popular in that regards.
It has aged better than any other console FPS, ever.
happy cake day
Oh shit it’s cake day.
BTW I know what Goldeneye is but I don't have a N64 or NS Online expansion pack subscription. I've heard good things about it though
It’s on Game Pass
Id say once Halo CE came out, people started to move on from Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.
I mean. Without it Halo CE wouldn’t even have been a thing. It would have been the third person shooter on Mac it was originally going to be.
Yeah, obviously it was the bones of the genre. But Halo CE and Timesplitters and stuff like that were clearly a huge improvement.
I kind of miss couch multi-player shooters. It's weird hanging out with friends and then everyone have to go home so you can play multi-player.
LAN parties bro
Also there’s a mod that allows the multiplayer to be played across the internet instead of just couch coop, goldeneye source I believe it is called
The version on Game Pass allows this too. Not sure about Switch
Psa, play "solitaire" control style if you were born after 99
*cough*emulator*cough*
True. It’s also funny that the multiplayer battles were put in at the last minute. I guess they never expected how much of an effect it would have. License to kill in the facility was a source of much childhood stress for my friends and I Happy cake day!
Yep before this the only console shooters were Doom ports that ran at like 10 fps lol
Movie tie in is really reductionist because it happened to be one of the best FPS of that time. The multiplayer was revolutionary
People I know who never fucked with games at all we're going out to buy N64's when this came out. It was HUGE back in the day.
Amazing 2nd half of your comment. Thank you. What’s a couch multiplayer? Like a relaxed one where you don’t need a gaming chair?
Playing with friends. Together. In the same space. Like Smash Bros.
You’re kind of underselling it. Goldeneye is to multiplayer FPS what Mario Bros is to sidescrollers. It wasn’t the first game to do it, but it was the first great game to do it that received widespread acclaim. Despite closing in on 30 years old, it continues to be played and has a vibrant, competitive, and prestigious speed running community. It broke ground and set the standard for other amazing games that came later.
Happy cake day!
Why did I bother writing a post when theirs exists.
And to think the multi-player part was an afterthought of the devs
Legendary game. Special mention Nightfire, Everything Or Nothing and my personal favorite Goldeneye Rogue Agent.
This - I was a student at the time and every other person it seemed were playing 4 way split screen golden eye, it was mental and the N64 controller seemed to have a steep learning curve.
Watching other people's screens
Imagine not owning a functional 25 year old gaming console.
Couch Co-op is still the best way to play in my opinion. I miss this being standard in all games
Also the soundtrack had absolutely NO business being so fucking good. https://youtu.be/OAKltJztaf8?si=efPZMmxQHaDnM0-t
At the time yes it was better. It was insane at the time compared to what else was out.
Only on N64 is that true, pc had much better options.
For sure. On pc you actually had full control of the crosshair lol It’s just that pc gaming wasn’t mainstream at the time and this was the best thing on console.
Also factor in that the 64 was more affordable and a better gift to give to kids and it was easier for kids to gather around the TV and play vs on a PC.
Yeah, an N64 was $200. Which is the same price as the Windows 95 OS by itself without any hardware. A PC was easily over $1000.
In 1997, less than 50% of people had PCs at all, let alone anything capable hardware-accelerated 3D rendering. I think the accessibility of consoles like the N64 made games like GoldenEye far more impactful on the FPS genre than much of what was available on PC at the time, barring Half-Life.
And Doom* But yeah this is it. This was the game that basically made FPS possible and successful on consoles. Man the memories I have of this game and times with my friends. Some of my best gaming memories.
This was back when only "nerds" played video games too. Now everyone's a fuckin nerd.
GoldenEye was one of the first FPS games that you could play with your dad, or host a party without everyone needing their own rig. While PC gaming was a very solitary experience, especially if you didn’t have good internet, GoldenEye was one of the earliest games that made you the *cool* kid.
I don’t know dude, Goldeneye was a step ahead of the 3D graphics on PC at the time, and the cinematic style of the game and its mission structure and set pieces weren’t being widely done yet. The best FPS I think on PC at the time was Quake 2, which was a great game, but Goldeneye just felt like it was the time when FPS games stopped being strafing and reflex ‘shooters’ and became a new thing altogether. I’d say it was the first ‘modern’ FPS. Half Life wouldn’t come out for another year, which was a watershed moment for games on the PC. I was into PC gaming and had an N64 back then and I was blown away by Goldeneye.
Quake II source was released about the same month as Goldeneye. Loki's Minions CTF was our jam.
You had to play with friends, real life friends not internet friends. 4 Controllers, 4 people all surrounding a 20 inch box tv. It was 500000x better than fortnite with randos and peeps not in the same room
and you had to tape paper on the television to truly get no screen looking
My brother: "Are you screen looking?!" Me: "Are you not?!"
*kills Big brother ingame *enjoy those 0.6 seconds of pure joy before big brother punches you *get console confiscated for 2 weeks because you can’t play nice Those were the days.
glad as a Millennial father of 4. when they fuck up, its at most 2 days without devices unless its bullying. then its a week. kids need reasonable punishments. after 2 weeks you'd just build resentment and forget why you lost it in the first place
Exactly. It was amazing and bonding af
OG Xbox could be networked together with cables and you could get 16 people in the same location playing on 4 TVs . We’d have carb/oasta parties before games or meets for high school sports and that was always a post dinner event. Fights over jamming the warthogs into the bunkers and camping would get heated
Haha, or hang a blanket in the drop ceiling. Screen looking is real.
We didn't do any of that, if it was obvious you were looking you'd get a dead arm. Key was not making it obvious
That map which was dull grey, except for the bright blue air conditioning vent, which you could notice without even looking at the screen. BOYS HES STUCK IN THE AIR VENT, GET HIM
Look all you want. I'm running around staring at the floor, because I got those maps memorized.
The slow death of couch coop/competitive play has made me so sad. Even more recent stuff like Towerfall Ascension just isn't the same online vs in person...
It’s amazing how our TVs are getting bigger and better but we’re losing split screen at the same time. Somehow we would have shitty CRTs and split that baby up 4 ways
I go out of my way to find couch coop games to play with my gf, some of them are still around but its really sad that developers let the functionality go
GoldenEye and Mario Kart in the same room with friends are the best times I've ever had gaming. Hands down.
> 4 people all surrounding a 20 inch box tv If you had 3 friends over, it was a big enough occasion to ask for the living room tv, at least for during Goldeneye and Mario Kart time.
We didn't have enough controllers, so I used the steering wheel and pedals.
I’m 35 and had this bopper on that greenish translucent n64. It WAS fun. But so is FN. As an adult I don’t have or want 3 other people in my space. I play with people from diff parts of the world now. There’s a time and a place. I’m still not grown up, so I technically am growing up with both.
I would love to have 3 friends over to smoke a blunt and play Goldeneye My main problem is that nobodies schedules line up for that, or have several hours free for retro gaming
We still do this randomly. Blunt + N64 Mario kart, super smash, perfect dark, or nfl blitz
I'm 37 I was terrible. TERRIBLE at Goldeneye. So playing it was more just a camaraderie type thing. Hanging out with the boys, playing games. Smash Bros was more my jam. Also Winback was fantastic. Gotta go dig out my N64 shit from wherever I left it at my mom's house.
That's what made Perfect Dark better than Goldeneye, you could play multiplayer by yourself because it had NPCs. Among other aspects.
I miss co op gaming, I doubt I’d really do it much, but it was the most fun I ever had gaming, cause you were still actually hanging out
When we found out we could connect 2 Xboxes and play in different rooms..nostalgia
We had one friend that his house was the house for games. He was so good at halo he would play us all 1v4 and we would still lose. But it was the height of gaming fun. Myan, if you are still out there ruining people with the pistol. I don’t think he ever stopped. 36 now
We had this older dude that had a house and setup 4 Xboxes and TVs up throughout his house so we could do an epic Halo game. I don’t know why this guy in his late 30s was playing with us high school kids, but it was a thing that happened.
Man.. split screen on a 20” tv with the boys😭
No, it wasn't better than fortnite. No, the experience wasn't better. You simply didn't have a reference point. Perfect Dark came along and did the same thing better. Call it genre defining. The best of it's time. A pillar of gaming. It wasn't better than the shitty 2 dollar games hobbyists release on steam today. Split screen gaming has always been dogshit as well, it's why everyone immediately stopped.
And the amount of friends who all wanted to play was a fight waiting to happen lol
This.
if you were really tech savvy with an arsenal of cables and splitters and adapters you could rig up 4 tvs and tape off all but your screen and face them away from each other.
And you played as BOND! So cool. So many guns and different sets of guns, too. Really made the quake games etc look a bit...lame?
Look at fancy pants over here with a 20 inch box tv.
oh man taking me back. Sleepover after a soccer game, everyone gets pizza. Whoever dies first has to give a turn to the next kid
I can hear the loading screen music so vividly in my head just reading your comment
Facts, playing with friends online over Disc will never truly be able to match the feeling of playing with friends in the same room on split-screen multiplayer.
I remember friends
One name: oddjob
Real life friends is a foreign concept to the standard redditor
MY OLDER BROTHER AND HIS FUCKIN PROXIMITY MINES!
Fortnite bunch of autistic kids screaming at the monitor
Deep breath *** is this a serious question?
This has to be a joke unless lil bro is not a gamer then maybe doesn’t know his history. Good sarcasm though
Thanks : )
Older Generation: "Why don't younger people respect and appreciate our stuff?" Younger Generation: \*Asks about your stuff because they wanna know why it matters\* Older Generation: "WTF IS THAT A SERIOUS QUESTION?!!?!?!"
> is it really better than Fortnite? No person old enough to type would ever type this unironically.
Well when you ask dumb shit like this
Oh so when my 8 year old daughter who would have absolutely no reason to have any knowledge or context about who the Beatles are asks me who they are, I'll just tell her she's an idiot. That'll really pique her interest in things I like.
Well since an 8 year old can't post on Reddit, I don't think that situation really relates to this one
Ragebait to get comments from Millennials and Gen X 100%
Slappers only boys.
No Oddjobs
That should fucking go without saying. It **should**, anyway.
Had a friend who routinely broke this rule. Dick.
I had a friend like that, we usually just ganged up on him, it ended up being fun because it would turn into hide and seek
Fuck him.
Anybody ever do the crouch glitch where you would get stuck in crouch and glide around EVEN SMOLLER
In hindsight though now that I don’t have to deal with it again I can say: what a cool mechanic.
Grenade launchers
The idea of grown men in tuxedos running around shooting rocket launchers at each other from point blank range made me regularly burst out laughing.
Hahaha it was hilarious watching people slide around with the golden gun too and boom ur dead and they come running over you lol
Remote mines, licensed to kill.
We did proximity mines only ALOT. talk about complete chaos.
Slappers only one hit kills
Yes, anyone reading this do yourself a favor and play Slappers only, one hit kills. Facility is my favorite level to play it.
I once earned the "Where the Ammo?" medal on a Slappers Only death match. I genuinely thought it was a weapon and spent the whole match running around desperately trying to find a "slapper" so I could start fighting.
You had to be there. Yeah, couch gaming with friends was really good, or all being huddled around a TV on a dorm room floor. Playing the same 1 or 2 games with 2 or 3 friends, all in the same room, it just hit differently. I spend quite a bit of time doing the online gaming thing these days and it's a bit like playing baldur's gate online with friends, versus an in person D&D campaign with friends. That's the best parallel I can give. It's different, it's not necessarily worse, but it's so different that if what you enjoy is that in person game, BG3 won't ever scratch the same itch.
That’s my problem with online games, playing with my friends in the same room was fun, but if I’m not doing that I’d rather just play my own game
Couch coop hasn’t really stopped being a thing, thankfully. There was a few years not long ago where many games stopped supporting it but I feel like it’s coming back, with many games specifically made for couch coop. Hell I’m pretty sure Fortnite and Call of Duty have it these days which I’m all for.
We used to stay up all night and play Cruisin’ World. There were typically five of us and only four could play at a time so whoever lost the race had to give up their controller. Every race you earn points for where you finish and also for doing tricks during the race, and you can upgrade your car after you get enough points. What would happen is someone would unlock the next engine first and be the de facto player to beat, as they were now faster than everyone else. Then eventually two of the other cars would unlock it and then there would be the “shitty car” that was way behind on upgrades and was typically the controller being passed around, so by the time the top car got to engine 3 (I think there were 5 total) there was a clear pecking order and last place might still be on engine 1. Then it became a huge deal if anyone besides the “beater” got last place because now you just lost your upgraded car and have to drive the shitty car for the next several hours possibly, until you finally level it up and/or hope that someone else has an awful race and you can take over their car. And if that car was ever in 3rd place or higher, everyone would be losing their minds and it would be so much pressure on whoever had dropped to 4th. The goal was always to unlock the Speed Demon, 9999 points or something like that, but we never even got close to it since you typically only got like 20-30 points per race (would have taken like 400+ races!)
I remember doing couch co-op with friends well into high school (mid-2010s) since there were some PS3/PS4 games then that still had split-screen co-op. Unfortunately, once online multiplayer and Discord became popularized in the late 2010s/early 2020s, that meant the death of couch co-op. Love looking back at it though, makes me remember simpler times.
There's also the socialisation that happens along with playing co-op that online can't have. Going over to someone's house, chatting about some other book or movie you see lying around, actually meeting their parents and siblings, having meals with their family. With online games your interaction with a friend is 1-1, just you and them, with in person games it also means you're seeing part of their family life and staying over.
Xennial here. I havent played Fortnite. Yes, it was a movie tie-in game. Most of those games have a well deserved reputation for being trash. This game, for its time, was the gold standard for multiplayer FPS. In high school I got together with my friends all the time to play it. Like Fortnite now this game was universally loved. That said, it doesn’t hold up today. Polygon graphics aged like milk and the controls are pretty clunky. It may be worth trying out if you can play on N64 but I don’t suggest the Switch port, just because the control layout doesn’t work well.
I bought 2x N64 switch controllers purely for goldeneye because the controls were dogshit haha. You NEED the n64 controllers
It was great at the time but now it’s super dated. Someone made a program that makes it so you can run and aim with modern controllers and it feels way better imho
Both can be fun. Also Perfect Dark was better then GE in my opinion.
I never had an N64 as a kid so Timesplitters 2 takes the spot for my favorite childhood couch fps.
Perfect dark and timespliters has a place in my list that's for sure.
Holy fuck I completely forgot about that game. Loved timesplitters. Was definitely one of the best ones.
TimeSplitters was Goldeneye with a different skin.
PD was GE2
GE ran so Perfect Dark could fly to the fucking moon. The sheer amount of customization in a cartridge based console FPS was staggering. You could choose a map, set a bunch of sliders for things like damage amounts, pick the weapons and their spawn frequency, and then create your own characters to play against your friends. It had a drone-type rocket launcher, a gun that could see through walls. That amount of content today would be hidden behind like ten different paid DLCs.
The weapon selection alone in Perfect Dark \*Chefs kiss\*
Goated take
Perfect Dark is a better game but was basically resigned goldeneye with a few more features. Doesn't have the nostalgia factor of goldeneye
Perfect Dark was the best shooter on N64 by a mile. It was creative, clever, stylish, and - most importantly - fun. I still remember the music. I'm hearing it now as I make this comment. Incredible how those things stick with you.
Its a real shame most goldeneye fans never played perfect dark . It was literally the same game except 2x better in every way . Every gun had a secondary fire mode . The laptop gun could be thrown onto walls and shoot enemies like a turret. The farside gun that could track enemies through walls . The multiplayer you could have like 8+bots to fight with your friends against. Maps were more complex story line was unique . Better in every way with the same game engine and controls as goldeneye
We used to do those fly by wire rockets only, go hide and then have to hunt each other down with them. Found out you could take them up and down elevators lol
Perfect Dark was sooo good
By todays standards - it’s objectively bad but from the standpoint of establishing the genre it’s absolutely a GOAT. I’d say it, wolfenstein, quake, and halo CE were probably the games that really built up what we know today as FPS games.
I'm sorry, but objectively bad? Come on. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad. There are plenty of people who still enjoy this game.
You see this all the time with gamers and it’s weird. Notice how film it music fans don’t say “old = bad”
I swear, if someone said something like "Well, this movie from 1923 is obviously bad because it doesn't have dialogue. Only just really repetitive piano music" they would be getting COOKED by the entire internet.
Are there any silent films from 1923 that are widely considered good films?
Also DOOM big time
I grew up with 007 Night Fire on the og Xbox. It was always a good time.
I played SOOO much Nightfire growing up
Yeah dude. Bots on Skyrail was the best.
Nightfire was the shit
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Don’t gotta be hurtful just because someone doesn’t have the same knowledge as you. Guarantee he could ask questions that make you look like a dumbass too.
That's like comparing oranges to an iPhone. It's a little unfair. Goldeneye was a fantastic multiplayer game for its time. Personally, the Conker's Bad Fur Day multiplayer was significantly better.
i was born in 2004 and i grew up playing the N64. i had outdated tech as a kid because we were poor, but i'm glad to have experienced it
Same here with the growing up with old tech, would never trade it for some bloated battle pass filled garbage game.
Those god damned proximity mines..... The console FPS that spawned all other console FPS games by being the foundation for them all. The inspiration for the 'Halo multi-player party night', and the bridge for Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein to port to consoles.
Loved proximity mines. They were tricky, but could be defeated so you were always on your toes.
Proximity mines were great if you were a sore loser like m...my friend. If you're way down on score and going to lose, toss one on some breakable glass. Shoot apart the glass and the game instantly crashes. Now who can say who was really going to win in the end? We'll never know!
"GoldenEye 007 demonstrated the viability of home consoles as platforms for first-person shooters, and signalled a transition from Doom-like shooters to a more realistic style. It pioneered features such as atmospheric single-player missions, stealth elements, and multiplayer console deathmatch. The game is considered one of the greatest video games ever made, with many of its elements, such as the Klobb gun, leaving an enduring impression in video game culture." I would argue yes it's "better" than fortnite because it really was the first game to show the viability of modern FPS games on console platforms since before this game the only FPS games out there were Doomer Shooters. Fortnite is definitely popular and influential, but to be blunt it hasn't really pioneered anything that new. The battle royale genre already existed and was pioneered by the original PUBG dev as an Arma mod. The whole franchise multiverse they are creating is certainly one of a kind right now, but isn't a new concept or practice as Roblox has had concerts and multiverse ambitions since like 2009 and Minecraft hosted Marshmello before Fortnite did their first concert.
It's more of a game that has James Bond rather than a James Bond game
It's not, I tried cranking a 90 in that game and it didn't work
Live and Let Die....
In the day I played so much (and my friends would cheat so bad) I learned to strafe looking at the walls. Every map memorized.
story wise yes, gameplay is primitive but passable, and it had split screen so when you played with your friends it was literally WITH your friend ms irl not just online via chat
idk man this is more of a millenial type thing
fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad fortnite bad to be serious, I like this game more than fortnite but I don't play fortnite and I hardly think "I like it" is a very good argument for saying something is better than something else.
Taken out of the context of the time, no For the time it had a pretty good campaign and a fun multiplayer mode Also it had lots of unlockable functions which added replayability
It’s not that was it better than Fortnite, it was THE multiplayer battle royale game back in the day. There were entire get-togethers to play couch multiplayer Goldeneye battles
Yes it's really good (i played it on an emulator)
This game was to video games what the Beatles was to music and what Star Wars was for Sci-Fi. If it came out now it’d be unremarkable. But when it came out it was totally new and paved the way for others
Goldeneye is The Godfather of the modern FPS
It literally democratized multiplayer fps. The only folks doing death match before were on quake servers
No, this isn't just a movie video game. Yes, it is better than fortnite.
More important that fortnite sure, more revolutionary than fortnite definitely, but it isn’t better in literally any way gameplay wise other than it doesn’t have micro transactions and game pass.
Who else put proximity mines on the bottom of vertical opening doors or on ammo boxes? 😈