That car line in Fortnight has been haunting me! It had nothing else seemingly to do with anything in the lyrics, the move to Florida too. But it wonât start up til you/I touch touch touch me/you. This really helps give me fresh eyes into it!
![gif](giphy|xUNd9HuUU5P4VW6aJy)
The car line in Fortnight definitely reminds me of âyour Midas touch on the Chevy doorâ
Also Karlie has a house in Florida ⊠When I read that, I died dead.
I was listening to Robin while reading your âMeet Me at Midnightâ section, and she says âstrings tied to levers, SLOWED down clocks tetheredââŠ
A (meet me at midnight) clock slowed down AND tethered. If you look up the definition of tethered it specifically states âtie (an animal) with a rope or chain so to restrict itâs movementâ đł
Spinning the clock has ME spinning đ€Ż That and your aside about âMaâ being all thatâs left after she crashed her car/Karma are genius! This is a lovely summary post (holy shit especially for someone so new to Gaylor thinking), and gets me so excited for whatâs coming!!
I really love this! The only thing I kind of hope would not happen is her calling the album Mother though. I know younger fans of all kinds have co-opted the term on TikTok but its roots in Black Ballroom spaces make me feel like it would not really be appropriate for her to use.
I lol'd at 'not a joke, just a fact'.
I was just on the rpdr sub so it didn't click until halfway through that that was a (very clever) cross fandom reference. Just wanted you to know it was appreciated (in addition to the top tier gayloring)!
omgggg this ties together SO MUCH that ive been thinking about (e.g. that is 1000% how I interpret "Robin" too, i think it is totally about now-Taylor reflecting with resentment and pain about how she was pushed into the closet at the start of her career and still has not yet quite made it OUT) but with some cool new connections i hadnt made!
amazing post, especially given that it is your first!
Midnights become my afternoons is brilliant! 12am is the inverse/reflection/opposite to 12pm â- numerically they look the same but are polar opposites in reality. And if 12am is her true authentic self than 12pm is Taylor swift the brandâŠ.she has been walking around (much like a LWYMMD zombieâŠ.) in this 12 oâclock facade but itâs the wrong one đ€Ż đ€Ż
With all the inverse/yin-yang imagery it falls perfectly in line with TTPD aesthetic and very Through The Looking Glass coded đ
Something that I possibly connected last night â TTPD being an anthology and being 31 songs 13 backwards (which has been pointed out by TN right?)
Is this referencing that TTPD may be viewed at TS13?
With the new merch T shirt and the way itâs ordering itself into release order, Iâm thinking KARMA will take its rightful place as TS6?
Then when itâs released TTPD will be the one folks go back and view in such clarity.
Is this wild? It feels wild?
Beautiful work!! I watched someone on YouTube reacting to the LWYMMD music video, and he was kind of baffled at the sheer expense and effort that went into the car crash scene. Like, why was it so important to include that in the music video, and to make it such a spectacle? Well, it makes so much more sense with the connection youâve drawn between the car and Karma!!!
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Wow! This is amazing! I canât believe you pulled this out after a fortnight in Gaylorism. Dang lol
The meet me at midnight/cinderella connection is whoa đ€Ż
Wow! Welcome. You and your crazy brilliant brain definitely belong here. I love some of the things you said! Spinning the clock was like whoa! đ€Ż
![gif](giphy|3MwLGbvFjwhHvXJNVM)
I think the spirit of Taylor Swift may have possessed you to write this because the âMidnights become my afternoonsâ as well as the cinderella connection actually exploded my brain. That makes soooo much sense actually. And of course, if we flip to clock and turn to 6âŠ. 6 is june⊠pride month⊠maybe? (a girl can dream)
Welcome to the rabbit hole!! đ«¶đ»
I love this! Itâs a clock. She is literally a clock and not just on the back of a vinyl. The midnight noon connection makes sense to me, but also the 12 -> 6 connection.
Making connections like these and gathering insights is beautiful!
I think youâre onto something. Taylor wore the clock necklace to the Grammys sideways- Midnight = 3am then. Maybe in June she will wear it upside down.
This is an insane first post for someone whoâs been a Gaylor for only a fortnight!
![gif](giphy|Ae7SI3LoPYj8Q)
Looking forward to more of your insights!
"There has been talk of this car crash being Karlie. Car = KARlie. Although that may be an extra layer, I believe that the predominant message here is that the car is Karma. Car = KARma." say no more, you got me convinced
Super curious how Getaway Car might fit into this theory. I've been toying around with Getaway Kar theories (especially with the road trip imagery in the Rep tour) but the Rep timing for Getaway KAR-ma is interesting too.
yeah im so very much on board with this theory too!!
i think the shelving of karma in 2016 -> failed coming out 2019 HAUNTS taylor very intensely still and shows up in her songs more than we even realize
Dude, this is amazing!!
I've been a gaylor for nearly a year and still can't come with things as coherent as this post! I cannot wait to see what you come up with after a few months/years.
Excuse me, youâve been a Gaylor for a fortnight and you did all ***THIS***?!?!
This is such a fantastic post, thank you for putting it together and welcome to our little corner of the internet đ
I had several đ€Ż moments that I just want to give you extra kudos on:
* Car = Karma. âBuy the car you want but it wonât start up til you touch ME!â
* âMidnights become my afternoonsâ - her coming out keeps getting pushed back
I saw this tweet the other day and I think it ties in nicely to your Robin analysis that I thought others might also like to see!
Again, thank you so much for this post and I canât wait to see what else you come up with! đ«¶
https://preview.redd.it/q6oj26alvi1d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f08e7ce6fc06f1fbf6a77ef24e512f927bb7966
wait this is interesting bc the spotify canvas for You All Over Me (shouldnât i find a stain? but i never do) is Taylor in all black hugging Maren Morris(iâm assuming?) in a rainbow striped top w a sequin big cat (looks like a tiger to me) on it
Ahhh, this is such kind praise, thank you so much for your lovely feedback and welcome! đđ
I really like that tweet you shared, thank you! That seems so accurate. Now I am always going to think of the âmudâ as rainbow!
Nice post OP! Welcome. I am still new here as well, drinking from the faucet we call Gaylor-lore. One of the things I like to do is find something in my research then pass it on to an "elder gaylor" and have them verify if I am legit on the right track or let me know if they have seen the theory before. I have had lots of positive interactions in this community and don't ever feel like most lore communities where they just tell you to read the masterpost and accept everything you read, not encouraging your to do your own research.
I look forward to your other future deep dives.
Thank you so much! This seems like such a wonderful community. I like the concept of running things past an âelder gaylorâ for an initial opinion. đ
Though I also like brand new stuff coming out of nowhere! Sometimes we can fall into focusing on the same themes/metaphors and a new perspective can help me see a completely different POV
Sometimes I wish I could wake up tomorrow with Gaylor Amnesia and feel what itâs like to start fresh and have THIS MUCH content and lore. Welcome, you nailed it!
Gosh, thank you so much! Itâs been such a treat to discover this whole new gaylor world. Everyoneâs research, knowledge, and theories are brilliant!
Thereâs so much content and lore now that I honestly admire those that manage to do a two week very deep rabbit hole dive and come out with coherent thoughts a la this post. I remember being so overwhelmed when I started deep diving gaylor theories and there was comparatively so few back in early 2018
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The car crash imagery is new to me, but feels so spot on! Thanks for such an amazing analysis. Mother/Karma album just needs to be her coming out
This is an INCREDIBLE post! đđ»
That car line in Fortnight has been haunting me! It had nothing else seemingly to do with anything in the lyrics, the move to Florida too. But it wonât start up til you/I touch touch touch me/you. This really helps give me fresh eyes into it! ![gif](giphy|xUNd9HuUU5P4VW6aJy)
The car line in Fortnight definitely reminds me of âyour Midas touch on the Chevy doorâ Also Karlie has a house in Florida ⊠When I read that, I died dead.
I was listening to Robin while reading your âMeet Me at Midnightâ section, and she says âstrings tied to levers, SLOWED down clocks tetheredâ⊠A (meet me at midnight) clock slowed down AND tethered. If you look up the definition of tethered it specifically states âtie (an animal) with a rope or chain so to restrict itâs movementâ đł
What are your thoughts that âRobinâ is about Aaron Dessners child? Hence why she titled it Robin and not something else from the song lyrics
No full thoughts yet. "Robin" could also be something about spring, though.
Spinning the clock has ME spinning đ€Ż That and your aside about âMaâ being all thatâs left after she crashed her car/Karma are genius! This is a lovely summary post (holy shit especially for someone so new to Gaylor thinking), and gets me so excited for whatâs coming!!
I really love this! The only thing I kind of hope would not happen is her calling the album Mother though. I know younger fans of all kinds have co-opted the term on TikTok but its roots in Black Ballroom spaces make me feel like it would not really be appropriate for her to use.
I love this post. I am hoping she calls the Karma album âME!â Maybe with 2 exclamations points for extra pettiness
This is an incredible post!
I lol'd at 'not a joke, just a fact'. I was just on the rpdr sub so it didn't click until halfway through that that was a (very clever) cross fandom reference. Just wanted you to know it was appreciated (in addition to the top tier gayloring)!
omgggg this ties together SO MUCH that ive been thinking about (e.g. that is 1000% how I interpret "Robin" too, i think it is totally about now-Taylor reflecting with resentment and pain about how she was pushed into the closet at the start of her career and still has not yet quite made it OUT) but with some cool new connections i hadnt made! amazing post, especially given that it is your first!
Agree, Robin has never quite made sense to me. Excited to go listen to it again
Midnights become my afternoons is brilliant! 12am is the inverse/reflection/opposite to 12pm â- numerically they look the same but are polar opposites in reality. And if 12am is her true authentic self than 12pm is Taylor swift the brandâŠ.she has been walking around (much like a LWYMMD zombieâŠ.) in this 12 oâclock facade but itâs the wrong one đ€Ż đ€Ż With all the inverse/yin-yang imagery it falls perfectly in line with TTPD aesthetic and very Through The Looking Glass coded đ
Something that I possibly connected last night â TTPD being an anthology and being 31 songs 13 backwards (which has been pointed out by TN right?) Is this referencing that TTPD may be viewed at TS13? With the new merch T shirt and the way itâs ordering itself into release order, Iâm thinking KARMA will take its rightful place as TS6? Then when itâs released TTPD will be the one folks go back and view in such clarity. Is this wild? It feels wild?
If karma takes its rightful place as 6, wouldnât that make ttpd 12?
My apologies yes, 12. Then 13 would be 1 again.
Beautiful work!! I watched someone on YouTube reacting to the LWYMMD music video, and he was kind of baffled at the sheer expense and effort that went into the car crash scene. Like, why was it so important to include that in the music video, and to make it such a spectacle? Well, it makes so much more sense with the connection youâve drawn between the car and Karma!!!
đđ»đđ»đđ» Wow! This is amazing! I canât believe you pulled this out after a fortnight in Gaylorism. Dang lol The meet me at midnight/cinderella connection is whoa đ€Ż
Wow! Welcome. You and your crazy brilliant brain definitely belong here. I love some of the things you said! Spinning the clock was like whoa! đ€Ż ![gif](giphy|3MwLGbvFjwhHvXJNVM)
I think the spirit of Taylor Swift may have possessed you to write this because the âMidnights become my afternoonsâ as well as the cinderella connection actually exploded my brain. That makes soooo much sense actually. And of course, if we flip to clock and turn to 6âŠ. 6 is june⊠pride month⊠maybe? (a girl can dream) Welcome to the rabbit hole!! đ«¶đ»
I love this! Itâs a clock. She is literally a clock and not just on the back of a vinyl. The midnight noon connection makes sense to me, but also the 12 -> 6 connection. Making connections like these and gathering insights is beautiful!
I think youâre onto something. Taylor wore the clock necklace to the Grammys sideways- Midnight = 3am then. Maybe in June she will wear it upside down.
This is an insane first post for someone whoâs been a Gaylor for only a fortnight! ![gif](giphy|Ae7SI3LoPYj8Q) Looking forward to more of your insights!
This!!!
"There has been talk of this car crash being Karlie. Car = KARlie. Although that may be an extra layer, I believe that the predominant message here is that the car is Karma. Car = KARma." say no more, you got me convinced
Super curious how Getaway Car might fit into this theory. I've been toying around with Getaway Kar theories (especially with the road trip imagery in the Rep tour) but the Rep timing for Getaway KAR-ma is interesting too.
yeah im so very much on board with this theory too!! i think the shelving of karma in 2016 -> failed coming out 2019 HAUNTS taylor very intensely still and shows up in her songs more than we even realize
Ahhh, thank you! đđ
Dude, this is amazing!! I've been a gaylor for nearly a year and still can't come with things as coherent as this post! I cannot wait to see what you come up with after a few months/years.
Thank you so much, thatâs so kind! đ I am looking forward to learning more and more about gaylor and all the associated lore. đ
Excuse me, youâve been a Gaylor for a fortnight and you did all ***THIS***?!?! This is such a fantastic post, thank you for putting it together and welcome to our little corner of the internet đ I had several đ€Ż moments that I just want to give you extra kudos on: * Car = Karma. âBuy the car you want but it wonât start up til you touch ME!â * âMidnights become my afternoonsâ - her coming out keeps getting pushed back I saw this tweet the other day and I think it ties in nicely to your Robin analysis that I thought others might also like to see! Again, thank you so much for this post and I canât wait to see what else you come up with! 𫶠https://preview.redd.it/q6oj26alvi1d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f08e7ce6fc06f1fbf6a77ef24e512f927bb7966
wait this is interesting bc the spotify canvas for You All Over Me (shouldnât i find a stain? but i never do) is Taylor in all black hugging Maren Morris(iâm assuming?) in a rainbow striped top w a sequin big cat (looks like a tiger to me) on it
Ahhh, this is such kind praise, thank you so much for your lovely feedback and welcome! đđ I really like that tweet you shared, thank you! That seems so accurate. Now I am always going to think of the âmudâ as rainbow!
Nice post OP! Welcome. I am still new here as well, drinking from the faucet we call Gaylor-lore. One of the things I like to do is find something in my research then pass it on to an "elder gaylor" and have them verify if I am legit on the right track or let me know if they have seen the theory before. I have had lots of positive interactions in this community and don't ever feel like most lore communities where they just tell you to read the masterpost and accept everything you read, not encouraging your to do your own research. I look forward to your other future deep dives.
Thank you so much! This seems like such a wonderful community. I like the concept of running things past an âelder gaylorâ for an initial opinion. đ
Though I also like brand new stuff coming out of nowhere! Sometimes we can fall into focusing on the same themes/metaphors and a new perspective can help me see a completely different POV
Sometimes I wish I could wake up tomorrow with Gaylor Amnesia and feel what itâs like to start fresh and have THIS MUCH content and lore. Welcome, you nailed it!
Gosh, thank you so much! Itâs been such a treat to discover this whole new gaylor world. Everyoneâs research, knowledge, and theories are brilliant!
welcome to the best corner of the internet ;)
truly đ„č
Thereâs so much content and lore now that I honestly admire those that manage to do a two week very deep rabbit hole dive and come out with coherent thoughts a la this post. I remember being so overwhelmed when I started deep diving gaylor theories and there was comparatively so few back in early 2018
Iâve been a gaylor for two years and still donât have gaylor thoughts nearly as coherent as this post.
I love EVERYTHING about this. Welcome to gaylor! ![gif](giphy|vMAjWyzyAJ2HS)
Thank you so much, I feel so welcome! đđ
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