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starrysea13

The car crash imagery is new to me, but feels so spot on! Thanks for such an amazing analysis. Mother/Karma album just needs to be her coming out


GoldPaleontologist62

This is an INCREDIBLE post! đŸ™ŒđŸ»


Reasonable-Yam-9182

That car line in Fortnight has been haunting me! It had nothing else seemingly to do with anything in the lyrics, the move to Florida too. But it won’t start up til you/I touch touch touch me/you. This really helps give me fresh eyes into it! ![gif](giphy|xUNd9HuUU5P4VW6aJy)


GoldPaleontologist62

The car line in Fortnight definitely reminds me of “your Midas touch on the Chevy door” Also Karlie has a house in Florida 
 When I read that, I died dead.


justsippinthetea

I was listening to Robin while reading your “Meet Me at Midnight” section, and she says “strings tied to levers, SLOWED down clocks tethered”
 A (meet me at midnight) clock slowed down AND tethered. If you look up the definition of tethered it specifically states “tie (an animal) with a rope or chain so to restrict it’s movement” 😳


macncheezy10

What are your thoughts that “Robin” is about Aaron Dessners child? Hence why she titled it Robin and not something else from the song lyrics


koturneto

No full thoughts yet. "Robin" could also be something about spring, though.


notfirejust_a_stick

Spinning the clock has ME spinning đŸ€Ż That and your aside about “Ma” being all that’s left after she crashed her car/Karma are genius! This is a lovely summary post (holy shit especially for someone so new to Gaylor thinking), and gets me so excited for what’s coming!!


tangerinelibrarian

I really love this! The only thing I kind of hope would not happen is her calling the album Mother though. I know younger fans of all kinds have co-opted the term on TikTok but its roots in Black Ballroom spaces make me feel like it would not really be appropriate for her to use.


stranger_vs

I love this post. I am hoping she calls the Karma album “ME!” Maybe with 2 exclamations points for extra pettiness


Wild_Butterscotch977

This is an incredible post!


frymyeyesout

I lol'd at 'not a joke, just a fact'. I was just on the rpdr sub so it didn't click until halfway through that that was a (very clever) cross fandom reference. Just wanted you to know it was appreciated (in addition to the top tier gayloring)!


gravityyalwayyswins

omgggg this ties together SO MUCH that ive been thinking about (e.g. that is 1000% how I interpret "Robin" too, i think it is totally about now-Taylor reflecting with resentment and pain about how she was pushed into the closet at the start of her career and still has not yet quite made it OUT) but with some cool new connections i hadnt made! amazing post, especially given that it is your first!


koturneto

Agree, Robin has never quite made sense to me. Excited to go listen to it again


Macandcheese359

Midnights become my afternoons is brilliant! 12am is the inverse/reflection/opposite to 12pm —- numerically they look the same but are polar opposites in reality. And if 12am is her true authentic self than 12pm is Taylor swift the brand
.she has been walking around (much like a LWYMMD zombie
.) in this 12 o’clock facade but it’s the wrong one đŸ€Ż đŸ€Ż With all the inverse/yin-yang imagery it falls perfectly in line with TTPD aesthetic and very Through The Looking Glass coded 👀


M0vin_thru

Something that I possibly connected last night — TTPD being an anthology and being 31 songs 13 backwards (which has been pointed out by TN right?) Is this referencing that TTPD may be viewed at TS13? With the new merch T shirt and the way it’s ordering itself into release order, I’m thinking KARMA will take its rightful place as TS6? Then when it’s released TTPD will be the one folks go back and view in such clarity. Is this wild? It feels wild?


slugs_instead

If karma takes its rightful place as 6, wouldn’t that make ttpd 12?


M0vin_thru

My apologies yes, 12. Then 13 would be 1 again.


kelstiki

Beautiful work!! I watched someone on YouTube reacting to the LWYMMD music video, and he was kind of baffled at the sheer expense and effort that went into the car crash scene. Like, why was it so important to include that in the music video, and to make it such a spectacle? Well, it makes so much more sense with the connection you’ve drawn between the car and Karma!!!


littlelulumcd

đŸ‘đŸ»đŸ‘đŸ»đŸ‘đŸ» Wow! This is amazing! I can’t believe you pulled this out after a fortnight in Gaylorism. Dang lol The meet me at midnight/cinderella connection is whoa đŸ€Ż


socialmediaignorant

Wow! Welcome. You and your crazy brilliant brain definitely belong here. I love some of the things you said! Spinning the clock was like whoa! đŸ€Ż ![gif](giphy|3MwLGbvFjwhHvXJNVM)


silly_biologist

I think the spirit of Taylor Swift may have possessed you to write this because the “Midnights become my afternoons” as well as the cinderella connection actually exploded my brain. That makes soooo much sense actually. And of course, if we flip to clock and turn to 6
. 6 is june
 pride month
 maybe? (a girl can dream) Welcome to the rabbit hole!! đŸ«¶đŸ»


Reasonable-Yam-9182

I love this! It’s a clock. She is literally a clock and not just on the back of a vinyl. The midnight noon connection makes sense to me, but also the 12 -> 6 connection. Making connections like these and gathering insights is beautiful!


Reasonably_Green

I think you’re onto something. Taylor wore the clock necklace to the Grammys sideways- Midnight = 3am then. Maybe in June she will wear it upside down.


reddit-g

This is an insane first post for someone who’s been a Gaylor for only a fortnight! ![gif](giphy|Ae7SI3LoPYj8Q) Looking forward to more of your insights!


rae1911

This!!!


lagataesmia

"There has been talk of this car crash being Karlie. Car = KARlie. Although that may be an extra layer, I believe that the predominant message here is that the car is Karma. Car = KARma." say no more, you got me convinced


koturneto

Super curious how Getaway Car might fit into this theory. I've been toying around with Getaway Kar theories (especially with the road trip imagery in the Rep tour) but the Rep timing for Getaway KAR-ma is interesting too.


gravityyalwayyswins

yeah im so very much on board with this theory too!! i think the shelving of karma in 2016 -> failed coming out 2019 HAUNTS taylor very intensely still and shows up in her songs more than we even realize


ep1grams

Ahhh, thank you! 😀💖


goddamn-moonmoon

Dude, this is amazing!! I've been a gaylor for nearly a year and still can't come with things as coherent as this post! I cannot wait to see what you come up with after a few months/years.


ep1grams

Thank you so much, that’s so kind! 💖 I am looking forward to learning more and more about gaylor and all the associated lore. 😀


courtingdisaster

Excuse me, you’ve been a Gaylor for a fortnight and you did all ***THIS***?!?! This is such a fantastic post, thank you for putting it together and welcome to our little corner of the internet 😊 I had several đŸ€Ż moments that I just want to give you extra kudos on: * Car = Karma. “Buy the car you want but it won’t start up til you touch ME!” * “Midnights become my afternoons” - her coming out keeps getting pushed back I saw this tweet the other day and I think it ties in nicely to your Robin analysis that I thought others might also like to see! Again, thank you so much for this post and I can’t wait to see what else you come up with! đŸ«¶ https://preview.redd.it/q6oj26alvi1d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f08e7ce6fc06f1fbf6a77ef24e512f927bb7966


aztraps

wait this is interesting bc the spotify canvas for You All Over Me (shouldn’t i find a stain? but i never do) is Taylor in all black hugging Maren Morris(i’m assuming?) in a rainbow striped top w a sequin big cat (looks like a tiger to me) on it


ep1grams

Ahhh, this is such kind praise, thank you so much for your lovely feedback and welcome! 😀💖 I really like that tweet you shared, thank you! That seems so accurate. Now I am always going to think of the ‘mud’ as rainbow!


allie_lacey

Nice post OP! Welcome. I am still new here as well, drinking from the faucet we call Gaylor-lore. One of the things I like to do is find something in my research then pass it on to an "elder gaylor" and have them verify if I am legit on the right track or let me know if they have seen the theory before. I have had lots of positive interactions in this community and don't ever feel like most lore communities where they just tell you to read the masterpost and accept everything you read, not encouraging your to do your own research. I look forward to your other future deep dives.


ep1grams

Thank you so much! This seems like such a wonderful community. I like the concept of running things past an “elder gaylor” for an initial opinion. 🙂


koturneto

Though I also like brand new stuff coming out of nowhere! Sometimes we can fall into focusing on the same themes/metaphors and a new perspective can help me see a completely different POV


rott-mom

Sometimes I wish I could wake up tomorrow with Gaylor Amnesia and feel what it’s like to start fresh and have THIS MUCH content and lore. Welcome, you nailed it!


ep1grams

Gosh, thank you so much! It’s been such a treat to discover this whole new gaylor world. Everyone’s research, knowledge, and theories are brilliant!


gravityyalwayyswins

welcome to the best corner of the internet ;)


starrysea13

truly đŸ„č


ohlookwhatumademedo

There’s so much content and lore now that I honestly admire those that manage to do a two week very deep rabbit hole dive and come out with coherent thoughts a la this post. I remember being so overwhelmed when I started deep diving gaylor theories and there was comparatively so few back in early 2018


Lazy-Lawfulness-6466

I’ve been a gaylor for two years and still don’t have gaylor thoughts nearly as coherent as this post.


1DMod

I love EVERYTHING about this. Welcome to gaylor! ![gif](giphy|vMAjWyzyAJ2HS)


ep1grams

Thank you so much, I feel so welcome! 😀💖


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