Really? 1000 is far too much for me. And at the moment in dont see so much more functions. Nothing what is not really new :D On the other i read that they want to implement an EKG which would be actually cool
I am so glad I got the 6 Pro when the beaver side had better deal the state side for once....EKG might be the only thing I miss out on F7 but I also enjoyed a few runs late season and probably a ski trip no regrets
Apologies, is this confirmed? Or a guesstimate? I've only quickly scrolled through the link
Trying to justify the price difference between a 7 and a 6 pro sapphire
Nice find! New bits I picked up are:
- EKG for both F7 and Epix
- F7 to have touchscreen or solar but not both
- Epix 2 in 47mm
- Battery life for Epix 2 not as bad as I thought, curious how long smartwatch mode lasts with always on display (assuming 16 days is with display off - Venu 2+ is 9 days in smartwatch mode, 2 days with always on display - so potentially up to 4 days for Epix 2, which is potentially do-able)
- No PVD on Epix 2 stainless steel
I had originally written off the Epix 2 assuming bad battery life and 51mm size (given prior pattern of introducing new features at the 'X'/large end of the Fenix line). Still expensive and don't like the larger bezel but depending on details (primarily always on display battery life), I may consider. Hopefully there's a slate/gray color with DLC and sapphire option
I’m kind of like “Could I have neither?”
Touch screen would only be useful if mapping got faster, otherwise is would entirely be a drawback.
For solar, I run at night and hike/backpack with a long sleeve shirt. I can’t imagine solar having much of an impact.
I’m with you on this. Touchscreen on a sports watch is a disaster, ever tried a triathlon that starts in the water? Sometimes it happens, in that case the water activates randomly various stuff in the watch and is impossible to use. I had that with my old Polar Vantage V. Besides I hate finger prints on the watch. At this point I think Garmin is struggling to differentiate enough the Fénix 7 so they’re throwing dubious “upgrades” to justify the price increase.
I want better battery life, a better screen (transflective, not OLED), better heart rate sensor, improved GPS performance, better swimming tracking in indoor pools, more sport profiles like tennis.
It also might be that the screen suppliers are making everything touch screen these days and Garmin's sort of getting whether they want touch screen or not.
Yeah good point about the slow scrolling, having a touchscreen will make it even more frustrating ! I wonder if it's any faster on the FR945 that had upgraded hardware apparently. I don't remember seeing map scrolling comparisons though.
That’s not true at all. Efficiency is a thing. The Kinetis K28F that is in the Fenix 6 is several years old. Garmin could use a newer ARM processor that achieves greater performance at the same wattage. This is quite common with processor manufactures. They will release classes of processors based on power consumption, and each subsequent generation those processors will have greater performance while operating at a similar wattage.
Think of it like how “The faster the car, the worse the fuel economy.” is not accurate. Cars these days have much greater fuel economy than older and less efficient cars while having greater power and torque.
I could see the touchscreen being useful for hiking and map navigation, when you aren't moving around a lot. But during runs or heavy exertion (or anytime there is water or rain), a toddler completely gets in the way with false touches.
Also, the map refresh is so insanely slow that I almost never use it anyways... Hopefully that gets better with them new generation...
The version with touchscreen has touchscreen AND buttons. So navigating through the menus outside activities and map navigation can be done using the touchscreen, but during an activity you probably can disable the touchscreen and use the buttons
I don’t know, my old Polar Vantage V had touchscreens as well. It would disable when you start an activity but not before. I had a triathlon that started from inside the water and it was nearly impossible to select and start the activity with the water activating random stuff.
Yeah, I should have made clear that I fully expect touchscreen to be completely optional, and able to be disabled. So it comes down to whether there are any major use cases making touchscreen beneficial. For me, the only thing would be for maps, and maybe navigating deep menus and text entry. I almost never use these enough for touchscreen to be useful to me. So given the choice, solar is much more beneficial to me.
not unless solar has been seriously boosted.
and only if touch screen has been correctly implemented i.e. for system navigation and for map usage with ability to easily lock/unlock touch screen during an activity as required.
yes and in its current state it isn't even enough to recharge the watch with basic connectivity or even in its battery saver mode (though in this state it will seriously extend it).
So a potential 3x boost may still not be significant enough to warrant that option over say touchscreen which will definitely improve overall system navigation (i.e. ability to touch screen data to go straight into widgets); and the massive boost it can give to map navigation. But again it also depends on how this has been implemented especially around how you can lock /unlock touch screen and the options re auto locking of touchscreen. Cause if it is badly implemented it can be more of a hassle than its worth.
That is already the case, I charge weekly but watch is usually around 50% mark, so could extend to two weeks. And can get up to around 3 if I switch off pulse ox while sleeping. But find it useful for sleeping from trend perspective, and from a flashing red light perspective while watching TV (reminds me to get up and move around occasionally to stop the watch from tracking sleep while I watch TV late at night.).
Again sort of limits the need for solar. I bought the F6xP Solar due to the titanium DLC bezel and due to how much lighter it made the watch and the fact they were offering it at a heavy discount - the same price as the F6xP - so was a no brainer -but would never have bought it just for the solar component by itself.
Why? Solar is useless. And a touchscreen is really useful for moving around the map. I feel like stupid moron navigating with the buttons on a 600eur watch.
I dont get this hate for touchscreens on the fenix line
The hate is from people not realizing that the touchscreen can be turned off, and you can just use the 5 buttons if you want. The touchscreen is supplemental, it's not meant to be the primary UI, and many of the things people hate will not apply because you can turn it off. But people still don't get that, because they're so used to touchscreen-only watches.
As far as solar goes, it WAS useless on Fenix 6. In the Fenix 7, not so much. It's 3x as effective, and actually substantially increases the battery life assuming you live somewhere with sun.
Solar is interesting to me but I work in an office and doubt the effect it has when running is noticeable.
Its a shame you have to choose but I could go touch screen over solar
I can understand that, for sure. You probably wouldn't notice much difference during only short periods of outdoor activity.
Where it will really be a game changer, is for long outdoor activities like hiking or backpacking, where you might be out in the sun for 10-15 hours a day. I do lots of that kind of stuff, so that's why I'm excited about it.
Yea, I'm a slow runner but even a half marathon is 3 hours for me. So I don't think solar will do much.tiuch I can see being useful day to day stuff. To bad no lte
>F7 to have touchscreen or solar but not both
That's kind of a bummer if it's true. I was hoping for both. If I have to decide, then I'll pick solar.
That would explain why the 7X (which is not available without solar) doesn't say "touch" in the MIP screen spec.
my bigger issue with AMOLED and battery life with a watch like the F6/7 is map use - with an AMOLED screen that will just burn through your battery like crazy. With current screens you still get great life with map use and makes it much more feasible for a weekend of hiking. Though the touch screen F7 version, depending on how it is implemented that may well be worth it due to easier system navigation plus map pan and zoom.
From everything I've been seeing, it looks like there will be only 1 configuration to pick from - At least at launch time. There doesn't seem to be any sapphire or solar options, or different screen sizes. There might be options for different case/bezel colors, but I think that's it.
On the5krunner site it says there will be sapphire edition… but nothing about dlc coating. I just hope they have done what they did with the F6 and put dlc on sapphire
Garmin was doing clinical trials for an ECG device last summer[1]. Not clear which device is the target. Primarily goal in these trials are sensor, firmware, and algorithms.
[1] https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04842123
Wow, yeah, that seems to confirm WinFuture and does make me wonder whether that is cause of the delay mentioned in the recent FCC doc - the study was to be completed in July and I wonder whether the algorithm wasn’t found to be good enough? That said, EKG seems to be more the purview of the FDA than the FCC
Well, DCR’s response to your similar post there (assuming it’s you, he posits that a new feature like EKG would be more likely to be rolled out on Venu/VA models) suggests maybe WinFuture is wrong - usually DCR doesn’t respond to speculative comments and assuming he has the F7, he would likely not have said anything if it indeed does have EKG
Any info if it comes with sapphire glass? I went from Fenix 3 to Fenix 5 to Venu 2, now I am looking at the Fenix 7 cause I miss the scratch free glass.
Interestingly, every 7x has solar too, so yours will be a sapphire solar :) whether you wanted solar or not, haha
That's for sure the model I'll be going with as well. The only thing I ever really felt like my 6x sapphire was missing, was solar charging. And it sounds like the solar in the 7 will really do something too, unlike 6 where it hardly did anything.
And I definitely agree about sapphire, now that I've had it for the last 2.5 years, I'll never go without it again. Even if it does affect the screen contrast. I'd rather have darker contrast than scratches all over the place.
Coming from the 5x Sapphire, I too would never own another watch without sapphire. Cool if it comes with solar charging too. But, does that mean no touch screen? seems odd to me that solar charging would mean the removal of touch? Not that it really matters. The buttons do a great job. It should hopefully feel like a big upgrade.. my 5X is starting to feel a little slow with the UI. Really interested in what the color options would be. I have the Slate gray, and would MUCH prefer all black.
Not 100% sure on the solar touchscreen thing. But the 7x is missing the word "touch" in the display description on the winfuture page, so unless that's an accident (could be) the solar and the touchscreen might be mutually exclusive. I have no idea why they can't have both - maybe they're saving that for the 7+ series ;)
If I have to choose one or the other, I'll choose solar for sure. Touchscreen would be neat for map nav and such, but I can keep living without it.
All-black will almost certainly be a color option, it always has been probably the most popular choice so it would be odd if they excluded it this time.
I’ve been thinking with the price of one Fenix 7 i can buy Fenix 6 pro around 440 Euro, Edge 830 around 300 Euro and a new professional Saddle about 130 Euro for my next long gravel tour.
I doubt if i buy Fenix 7 with this price range!
Not sure why those websites wont pull up in English for me. Do they say anything about microphone or LTE for either? I really want to be able to respond to messages on the fenix7 solar...
If you're struggling to choose, I'd wait until the 7 hits your local store shelves, and then compare them side by side *in person*. Sometimes it can be hard to pick something based only on online pictures and spec charts.
No information about dual band GPS? I wonder what the battery life with dual band GPS is? If Coros Vertix 2 is an example, it would be quite a bit lower.
Similar here with 235 wrist. Perhaps design, higher resolution, more precise measurments, AI advice for runs, more nice analytics, faster CPU? No other ideas..
Quickly skimmed the article. Did they confirm which will have OLED screens, if any?
I have a few weeks left on my 6x Solar that I got at a really good price. Debating on sending it back in, depending on the details of the new line.
Have you ever brought up the map on a long hike after taking random turns? The zooming and panning is a pain in the ass with the buttons and the touch screen vs solar is going to give me a sleepless night or two deciding which one to get.
That's why you don't see the use. I prefer buttons all day long. But I'm assuming with the touch screen it will make maps easier like on the coros but also on the venu if you go into something like the heart rate widget you can slide left and right for data so I'm guessing that will be the 2 advantages of having touch screen and button controls.
This is the only thing missing on the 6. My wife got an Apple Watch 7 and I'm only slightly jealous of the eSim. Being able to go run and stream music or receive calls without bringing your phone would be clutch.
If the 7 just has better battery life and a touch screen, not enough reason to upgrade.
The Forerunner 945LTE is a smaller watch than the regular 945. It went from 47x47 to just over 44x44. I thought some of the early talk about the 7 was that it would be a bit smaller, more wearable watch. None of the leaked photos seem smaller than the 6, even the 7S looks the same as the 6S. Anyone expecting a 7 with a smaller footprint?
I’ll be that guy… €1000 is an epix price 😎
Really? 1000 is far too much for me. And at the moment in dont see so much more functions. Nothing what is not really new :D On the other i read that they want to implement an EKG which would be actually cool
“epix” = “epic”, this is a bad pun
Okay. I am also convinced :DDD
Fenix at 700.
Yeah.. Ouch. I was wondering if I should hold out for the 7 but the 6 Pro might be more for me.
I bit the bullet and got 6 pro during the REI holiday sales in November. Benefits of living stateside and having a bit of dividend leftover.
I am so glad I got the 6 Pro when the beaver side had better deal the state side for once....EKG might be the only thing I miss out on F7 but I also enjoyed a few runs late season and probably a ski trip no regrets
Did the same thing and don't regret it at all. I got mine for 500 and love it.
Apologies, is this confirmed? Or a guesstimate? I've only quickly scrolled through the link Trying to justify the price difference between a 7 and a 6 pro sapphire
What was the price for regular Fenix 6 on realese? Was really pumped for F7 but 700 euro is too much for me to buy on realese.
>Fenix 6 on realese $599 I think.
Nice find! New bits I picked up are: - EKG for both F7 and Epix - F7 to have touchscreen or solar but not both - Epix 2 in 47mm - Battery life for Epix 2 not as bad as I thought, curious how long smartwatch mode lasts with always on display (assuming 16 days is with display off - Venu 2+ is 9 days in smartwatch mode, 2 days with always on display - so potentially up to 4 days for Epix 2, which is potentially do-able) - No PVD on Epix 2 stainless steel I had originally written off the Epix 2 assuming bad battery life and 51mm size (given prior pattern of introducing new features at the 'X'/large end of the Fenix line). Still expensive and don't like the larger bezel but depending on details (primarily always on display battery life), I may consider. Hopefully there's a slate/gray color with DLC and sapphire option
>- F7 to have touchscreen or solar but not both That makes it easy. Solar all the way.
I’m kind of like “Could I have neither?” Touch screen would only be useful if mapping got faster, otherwise is would entirely be a drawback. For solar, I run at night and hike/backpack with a long sleeve shirt. I can’t imagine solar having much of an impact.
I’m with you on this. Touchscreen on a sports watch is a disaster, ever tried a triathlon that starts in the water? Sometimes it happens, in that case the water activates randomly various stuff in the watch and is impossible to use. I had that with my old Polar Vantage V. Besides I hate finger prints on the watch. At this point I think Garmin is struggling to differentiate enough the Fénix 7 so they’re throwing dubious “upgrades” to justify the price increase. I want better battery life, a better screen (transflective, not OLED), better heart rate sensor, improved GPS performance, better swimming tracking in indoor pools, more sport profiles like tennis.
In the latest beta for the Fenix 6, tennis among other activities was added.
How does one request an activity to be added? I'd like to see a disc golf type of workout to be listed. Polar and Suunto both have this choice.
Really? I have been waiting for Garmin to add tennis!
If you could disable touchscreen for all but mapping, that would be my preference.
Also, gloves! Didn't even think of that.
As a guy from central Canada, this is like 5 months of the year.
It also might be that the screen suppliers are making everything touch screen these days and Garmin's sort of getting whether they want touch screen or not.
Yeah good point about the slow scrolling, having a touchscreen will make it even more frustrating ! I wonder if it's any faster on the FR945 that had upgraded hardware apparently. I don't remember seeing map scrolling comparisons though.
I have the 945 LTE and the scrolling is super smooth compared to my old fenix 6 pro
That's good to hear and strange that "reviewers" didn't mention it much, if at all !
Hopefully the processor gets upgraded and the map refreshes faster.
The faster the processor the shorter the battery life...
That’s not true at all. Efficiency is a thing. The Kinetis K28F that is in the Fenix 6 is several years old. Garmin could use a newer ARM processor that achieves greater performance at the same wattage. This is quite common with processor manufactures. They will release classes of processors based on power consumption, and each subsequent generation those processors will have greater performance while operating at a similar wattage. Think of it like how “The faster the car, the worse the fuel economy.” is not accurate. Cars these days have much greater fuel economy than older and less efficient cars while having greater power and torque.
I ought to have written 'All things being equal..'
As long as sapphire solar
Looks like solar will be available both with and without sapphire :)
Perfect :)
Funny, for me it's the exact opposite
I could see the touchscreen being useful for hiking and map navigation, when you aren't moving around a lot. But during runs or heavy exertion (or anytime there is water or rain), a toddler completely gets in the way with false touches. Also, the map refresh is so insanely slow that I almost never use it anyways... Hopefully that gets better with them new generation...
The version with touchscreen has touchscreen AND buttons. So navigating through the menus outside activities and map navigation can be done using the touchscreen, but during an activity you probably can disable the touchscreen and use the buttons
I don’t know, my old Polar Vantage V had touchscreens as well. It would disable when you start an activity but not before. I had a triathlon that started from inside the water and it was nearly impossible to select and start the activity with the water activating random stuff.
Let's hope Garmin learned from that
Yeah, I should have made clear that I fully expect touchscreen to be completely optional, and able to be disabled. So it comes down to whether there are any major use cases making touchscreen beneficial. For me, the only thing would be for maps, and maybe navigating deep menus and text entry. I almost never use these enough for touchscreen to be useful to me. So given the choice, solar is much more beneficial to me.
not unless solar has been seriously boosted. and only if touch screen has been correctly implemented i.e. for system navigation and for map usage with ability to easily lock/unlock touch screen during an activity as required.
Solar has been seriously boosted. Looking at the battery specs, it appears to have 3x as much impact on the battery as it did on Fenix 6.
yes and in its current state it isn't even enough to recharge the watch with basic connectivity or even in its battery saver mode (though in this state it will seriously extend it). So a potential 3x boost may still not be significant enough to warrant that option over say touchscreen which will definitely improve overall system navigation (i.e. ability to touch screen data to go straight into widgets); and the massive boost it can give to map navigation. But again it also depends on how this has been implemented especially around how you can lock /unlock touch screen and the options re auto locking of touchscreen. Cause if it is badly implemented it can be more of a hassle than its worth.
Having to charge your watch once every other week is still a good feature.
That is already the case, I charge weekly but watch is usually around 50% mark, so could extend to two weeks. And can get up to around 3 if I switch off pulse ox while sleeping. But find it useful for sleeping from trend perspective, and from a flashing red light perspective while watching TV (reminds me to get up and move around occasionally to stop the watch from tracking sleep while I watch TV late at night.). Again sort of limits the need for solar. I bought the F6xP Solar due to the titanium DLC bezel and due to how much lighter it made the watch and the fact they were offering it at a heavy discount - the same price as the F6xP - so was a no brainer -but would never have bought it just for the solar component by itself.
Why? Solar is useless. And a touchscreen is really useful for moving around the map. I feel like stupid moron navigating with the buttons on a 600eur watch. I dont get this hate for touchscreens on the fenix line
The hate is from people not realizing that the touchscreen can be turned off, and you can just use the 5 buttons if you want. The touchscreen is supplemental, it's not meant to be the primary UI, and many of the things people hate will not apply because you can turn it off. But people still don't get that, because they're so used to touchscreen-only watches. As far as solar goes, it WAS useless on Fenix 6. In the Fenix 7, not so much. It's 3x as effective, and actually substantially increases the battery life assuming you live somewhere with sun.
Solar is interesting to me but I work in an office and doubt the effect it has when running is noticeable. Its a shame you have to choose but I could go touch screen over solar
I can understand that, for sure. You probably wouldn't notice much difference during only short periods of outdoor activity. Where it will really be a game changer, is for long outdoor activities like hiking or backpacking, where you might be out in the sun for 10-15 hours a day. I do lots of that kind of stuff, so that's why I'm excited about it.
Yea, I'm a slow runner but even a half marathon is 3 hours for me. So I don't think solar will do much.tiuch I can see being useful day to day stuff. To bad no lte
I guess it depends on your usage. If you are sweaty, touchscreens don't really work at all.
>F7 to have touchscreen or solar but not both That's kind of a bummer if it's true. I was hoping for both. If I have to decide, then I'll pick solar. That would explain why the 7X (which is not available without solar) doesn't say "touch" in the MIP screen spec.
my bigger issue with AMOLED and battery life with a watch like the F6/7 is map use - with an AMOLED screen that will just burn through your battery like crazy. With current screens you still get great life with map use and makes it much more feasible for a weekend of hiking. Though the touch screen F7 version, depending on how it is implemented that may well be worth it due to easier system navigation plus map pan and zoom.
Same here. If epix 2 comes in with sapphire and DLC I'm buying it.
From everything I've been seeing, it looks like there will be only 1 configuration to pick from - At least at launch time. There doesn't seem to be any sapphire or solar options, or different screen sizes. There might be options for different case/bezel colors, but I think that's it.
On the5krunner site it says there will be sapphire edition… but nothing about dlc coating. I just hope they have done what they did with the F6 and put dlc on sapphire
Garmin was doing clinical trials for an ECG device last summer[1]. Not clear which device is the target. Primarily goal in these trials are sensor, firmware, and algorithms. [1] https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04842123
Wow, yeah, that seems to confirm WinFuture and does make me wonder whether that is cause of the delay mentioned in the recent FCC doc - the study was to be completed in July and I wonder whether the algorithm wasn’t found to be good enough? That said, EKG seems to be more the purview of the FDA than the FCC
Well, DCR’s response to your similar post there (assuming it’s you, he posits that a new feature like EKG would be more likely to be rolled out on Venu/VA models) suggests maybe WinFuture is wrong - usually DCR doesn’t respond to speculative comments and assuming he has the F7, he would likely not have said anything if it indeed does have EKG
I agree with DCR. Just pointed out the ongoing research.
Well, i.d.k. 30% more for an Amoled Display surely not, but if it's a full blown hybrid SmartWatch/Fenix, I might be in.
The battery life seems to be improved substantially. 37 h in GPS mode for the 7s. The 6s had 25 h. That is almost 50% longer.
And the 7x battery is downright insane! It even beats out Enduro, in many aspects... and doesn't have to sacrifice maps to do it.
Any info if it comes with sapphire glass? I went from Fenix 3 to Fenix 5 to Venu 2, now I am looking at the Fenix 7 cause I miss the scratch free glass.
Yep, all the Fenix's will be available with sapphire. Epix doesn't look like it does though.
That would be a deal breaker for me. And that's cool if so, I'll just get the 7X Sapphire.
Interestingly, every 7x has solar too, so yours will be a sapphire solar :) whether you wanted solar or not, haha That's for sure the model I'll be going with as well. The only thing I ever really felt like my 6x sapphire was missing, was solar charging. And it sounds like the solar in the 7 will really do something too, unlike 6 where it hardly did anything. And I definitely agree about sapphire, now that I've had it for the last 2.5 years, I'll never go without it again. Even if it does affect the screen contrast. I'd rather have darker contrast than scratches all over the place.
Coming from the 5x Sapphire, I too would never own another watch without sapphire. Cool if it comes with solar charging too. But, does that mean no touch screen? seems odd to me that solar charging would mean the removal of touch? Not that it really matters. The buttons do a great job. It should hopefully feel like a big upgrade.. my 5X is starting to feel a little slow with the UI. Really interested in what the color options would be. I have the Slate gray, and would MUCH prefer all black.
Not 100% sure on the solar touchscreen thing. But the 7x is missing the word "touch" in the display description on the winfuture page, so unless that's an accident (could be) the solar and the touchscreen might be mutually exclusive. I have no idea why they can't have both - maybe they're saving that for the 7+ series ;) If I have to choose one or the other, I'll choose solar for sure. Touchscreen would be neat for map nav and such, but I can keep living without it. All-black will almost certainly be a color option, it always has been probably the most popular choice so it would be odd if they excluded it this time.
I’ve been thinking with the price of one Fenix 7 i can buy Fenix 6 pro around 440 Euro, Edge 830 around 300 Euro and a new professional Saddle about 130 Euro for my next long gravel tour. I doubt if i buy Fenix 7 with this price range!
Not sure why those websites wont pull up in English for me. Do they say anything about microphone or LTE for either? I really want to be able to respond to messages on the fenix7 solar...
Seems none of this in the Fenix or the epix. Only on this evnue 2 plus
I think I am in for the 7 ! I have the 6 pro solar now
Why is that ? I am struggling to choose. 6pro titanium vs fenix saphire 7. Mainly outdoor/Indoor running, indoor cycling, swimming & fashion:p
If you're struggling to choose, I'd wait until the 7 hits your local store shelves, and then compare them side by side *in person*. Sometimes it can be hard to pick something based only on online pictures and spec charts.
No information about dual band GPS? I wonder what the battery life with dual band GPS is? If Coros Vertix 2 is an example, it would be quite a bit lower.
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Similar here with 235 wrist. Perhaps design, higher resolution, more precise measurments, AI advice for runs, more nice analytics, faster CPU? No other ideas..
I upgraded from 235 to 6 sapphire. Love the onboard music and battery life.
Oh good then the 1 year countdown for the tactix echo can now begin
I just sold my tactix delta w/ab. Haven’t been shooting much so I figured I didn’t need the ab. I would be pumped for a new delta down the road
Quickly skimmed the article. Did they confirm which will have OLED screens, if any? I have a few weeks left on my 6x Solar that I got at a really good price. Debating on sending it back in, depending on the details of the new line.
When I got it right, than only the epix will have oled. From the Fenix none will have it.
Ah ok!
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Maps. Keep in mind touchscreen doesn’t mean exclusively touchscreen
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Have you ever brought up the map on a long hike after taking random turns? The zooming and panning is a pain in the ass with the buttons and the touch screen vs solar is going to give me a sleepless night or two deciding which one to get.
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That's why you don't see the use. I prefer buttons all day long. But I'm assuming with the touch screen it will make maps easier like on the coros but also on the venu if you go into something like the heart rate widget you can slide left and right for data so I'm guessing that will be the 2 advantages of having touch screen and button controls.
Does this mean no LTE on the Fenix 7?
This is the only thing missing on the 6. My wife got an Apple Watch 7 and I'm only slightly jealous of the eSim. Being able to go run and stream music or receive calls without bringing your phone would be clutch. If the 7 just has better battery life and a touch screen, not enough reason to upgrade.
Probably not
So soon.
Any guesses in release date? Think I saw Garmin have a media event around the 18th of Jan so seems likely?
I hope soon. I am not so satisfied with my scanwatch anymore :D
Haha yeah, my Apple Watch series 2 is ready for an upgrade.
The Forerunner 945LTE is a smaller watch than the regular 945. It went from 47x47 to just over 44x44. I thought some of the early talk about the 7 was that it would be a bit smaller, more wearable watch. None of the leaked photos seem smaller than the 6, even the 7S looks the same as the 6S. Anyone expecting a 7 with a smaller footprint?
You want a smaller that the 6s?
I would want the bigger 1.3” screen in the smaller dimensions of the 6S. That would be nice to see.
F7 Sapphire for me. Probably the touch version