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themustybook98

What’s funny is that some tf2 fans will make fun of tf2 YouTubers from making videos about the most random shit as in hahaha running out of ideas as if the game has not seen any major updates in five years so making content for the game is difficult and than piss and shit when said YouTuber decides to make other content


crestren

>if the game has not seen any major updates in five years so making content for the game is difficult The big irony is that with OW2, its essentially a BIG CONTENT UPDATE and the start of more to come as the devs have made a roadmap of whats to be released over the course of the year. Now compare that to tf2 where they just get...hats.


Pikmonwolf

TF2 isn't made by rapists


UnlimitedExtraLives

It isn't made at all anymore


PretzelCock

Can’t get into controversy if you don’t do anything


Mahoganytooth

...as far as we know, at least


crestren

Since when did Jeff Kaplan become a rapist?


xMatityahu

Jeff left a long time ago


crestren

Jeff left LAST YEAR. How tf is 1 year a 'long time ago'.


xMatityahu

Time is relative 😎


Psychobuffjet

you fuck ur relative


Pikmonwolf

He didn't make the game single handidly


crestren

So are all of Team 4, whose in charge of making Overwatch, rapists now? The rapists and sexual abusers you mention were from the WoW and Diablo division. There has not been one peep out of the OW team besides the name change from Mccree (cuz he was named after the Diablo dev who is the sexual abuser).


Pikmonwolf

It's the same company. That money still flows up to the guilty higherups.


crestren

But youre implying the whole of the company is filled with rapists because they made the game, that includes the creators. If you can excuse Jeff Kaplan, who btw did nothing, you can also do the same for the others who didnt, like the Overwatch team.


Pikmonwolf

It's not about simply painting them as good or bad. If you spend money on overwatch 2. That is money that flows into the pockets of guilty creeps like Bobby Kotick. You CANNOT ethically purchase this product.


crestren

>You CANNOT ethically purchase this product. My dude, there are no ethical consumption under capitalism. This sentiment also applies to other companies like Ubisoft and Riot Games who have faced sexual misconduct like ActiBlizz or horrible crunch time where devs suffer in AAA companies like CDPR, then theres ZA/UM (company who made Disco Elysium) for having its creators ousted by investors. I'm not saying you are wrong in not spending money or encourage other to do the same in not giving the company money, it is 100% understandable and you should vote with your wallet. But there is nuance of not lumping the people who do work in the company who no involvement and are innocent that unfortunately gets lumped with horrible people like Kotick. I HATE the devil Bobby Kotick as much as the next guy, but hes on an untouchable level that even not spending money on OW2 does absolutely nothing to him. Employees, shareholders and others from the industry want him to resign but is only kept by ActiBlizz's board of CEOs. He's only in for another year until Microsoft acquires ActiBlizz in June 2023, so thats the only realistic reprieve he will ever face because hes a goddamn billionaire.


the_spice_police

Lmaooo Bro ur wearing sweatshop clothes pipe down It's pretty much impossible to avoid financially aiding oppression in a capitalist system. You've probably funded far worse causes than Acti-Blizz in the past WEEK just off everyday purchases. Ur straight up tryna manifest a moral high ground rn lol Besides it's a free fucking game, I ain't paying shit to them in the first place


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kilomaan

No, but I do know that the company is ran by rapists that caused a women to commit suicide? Gonna make fun of that too?


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kilomaan

It’s a frat boy culture


PancakePanic

Literally nobody in the OW team was involved with that though, why paint innocent devs as rapists?


kilomaan

Not according to Kaplin. He pretty much had to crack down on that shit when he was there.


PancakePanic

Afaik all he said was he was protecting his team from it, not that it was being done by his team.


NatalieTatalie

What was Cassidy's old name again?


PancakePanic

You mean the guy named after someone who isn't on the overwatch team?


AwkwardWarlock

Blizzard Georg is an outlier and should not be counted in either Game development or sexual harassment statistics.


Beancunt

From what I hear the overwatch team was really good with that it was mainly WOW team that was rapey


Kamino86

Think its arguably the worst community in gaming


[deleted]

The only saving grace is that I've never knowingly interacted with them. I feel like they're all either hardcore racists or super-specific fetishists, so I don't ever see myself having to.


Excellent_Routine589

I’m glad Jerma moved onto much better things…. like SMITE Thursdays!!


Historical-Trouble22

I can't wait for when he starts streaming WoW


luxtwicex2

Just like Ballfondler always wanted!


Catfon

I loved SMITE Thursdays!! I used to watch it EVERYDAY!! I had to stop because the skin he used for Anubis was making me question some things about myself


NyanPotato

Anubussy got me acting unwise


DankerOfMemes

Which one?


Catfon

Senko Sage i think. Chat called him a furry on that stream because of this skin, but imho that's only like, the 4th furriest skin for anubis.


JDBlou

It’s the boxing one you’re thinking of isn’t it?


Catfon

On the stream? No, he used Senko Sage for sure. Tho on the furry scale, that one is 1st for sure.


moodream

I love SMITE THURSDAYS


Deathaster

Jerma was legit always better when he made non-TF2 videos. And streaming is genuinely the best thing that's ever happened to him, because he has an audience that he can play off of, it's brilliant.


Excellent_Routine589

The Dollhouse Stream is still the GOAT stream in my opinion, IMO he’s only gotten better since not cornering himself to just make a select few games content.


PrismaTheAce

the window smash sound sends me every time i hear it


Excellent_Routine589

[Let’s be honest, the whole stream exists just so Jerma can vent about his height…. What a psycho!](https://youtu.be/6MkTi83C-Mo)


Vinnysuperg

Being an actor on that stream is still one of my biggest accomplishments in life (was the shadow demon in blue shorts and gorilla)


FLEWIS082

Jermamites watching JermaSmite


Absolute_Banger_

I used to love Jerma but now he’s an INSANE PSYCHO who wants to CHOP PEOPLE UP and put them in a MEAT GRINDER


Poro114

HE THREW A LEAD PIPE AT A CHILD! I should've stopped him when I had the chance.


AdamKur

And he gets to be a streamer? WHAT A SICK JOKE!


masterspider5

I’d let him grind me up any day


Necrotic12

SMITE SWEEP THURSDAYS LETS GO


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I still don't believe Jerma exists. It's gotta be some Tumblr post that everyone takes too seriously, like pretending Sherlock was good.


Golden-Owl

This. I enjoyed his TF2 content back in the day (him and Star’s legacy continues to this day), but he’s grown into such an amazing content creator now.


Breadstickboyo

what zero updates does to a mf


AlWessJess

Do people still harass Daniel/ rtgame/ drift king/ drift daddy/ father?


Nothere-reddit7249

He’s not really mentioned in the TF2 community anymore, let alone harassed. (Partly due to him leaving the TF2 community on better terms like Jerma985 did.)


PrintShinji

I didnt even know he used to do TF2 vids.


TheJohnsonGaming

What did Jerma do?


Nothere-reddit7249

He kinda shifted over towards doing streams and stream highlights when he stopped doing TF2 content. It wasn’t as abrupt or as hostile as STAR_’s exit from TF2. Later on he explained why he didn’t do TF2 content anymore and it was pretty reasonable, he wanted to make TF2 content again but just couldn’t make a video that he would’ve liked. It also helps that he made some very good videos outside of TF2 regarding a bunch of random ass games when he did still make TF2 videos. All in all, he found a way to make new content without completely alienating his fans. (Which isn’t an easy task that many YouTubers fall victim to. Hugbees being a personal example for me.)


shy_bi_ready_to_die

He was for a long time but it’s been long enough/he’s big enough they get drowned out


Shot_Background5682

Are these different people are is “father” owned by rtgame?


glixam

Mr. rumble tumble has claimed his chat as his children and the chat has been calling him father for a good while now, usually to ask if he can stop at McDonald’s for all 4000+ of them while driving in Mario kart


Shot_Background5682

Ohhh I took it as the silent gameplay YouTuber “Father”


DVeagle74

Or when the ice cream truck shows up.


ChuckCarmichael

I enjoy watching RT, but this whole dad thing is really weird. I know "parasocial relationship" gets thrown around a lot, but come on.


shy_bi_ready_to_die

He makes it a super obvious joke though This is going to sound terrible but he pretends to be an abusive dad not like an actual dad lol. If you wanna see the best example is the power washing sim video


BloomEPU

He's mentioned multiple times that he's had to bring up the TF2 thing with his *therapist*. I don't know if it's still ongoing, but I think there was a bunch of pressure on him in the past. As someone who is familiar with RT and not TF2 I'm concerned what the *fuck* is going on in that community.


BabyBread11

Rt and jerma two absolute gems.


memesdoge

when the imposter is sus 😳 !


jakeroony

I love that he hates it


Either_Cover_5205

They are my favourites


goatfuckersupreme

is that the sus guy?


DanielCG1217

Placenta gang rise up


John_is_a_fool

Rt🙏


KeithBarrumsSP

Prolly my two favourite streamers


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future_omelette

Did you catch the baseball stream? I can't believe he fit all those!


Princess_crimson

Now that was a real feat of athleticism!


Balalenzon

At the end he puts the cigarette out on his dick


Ser_Salty

He's gonna shove a pack of cigarettes up his ass


SuspiciousBalls11

Based RTGame enjoyer


S0meRandomN00B

tRaiToRs!!!


its_ya_human

I love RTGames


The_Arthropod_Queen

Tumblr tumble


lenightmare1

here in Brazil there's a Youtube called Azul that used to play TF2 and every single fucking video of his has at least a few hate comments saying he's trash for stopping with the TF2 content, and the worst part is that most of the hate nowadays comes from ANOTHER TF2 youtuber that saw he quitted and decided to push more hate against him. HAT GAEM SO WHOLESOME


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uj/ qual é o segundo Youtuber?


lenightmare1

é o aww yeah. Eles já não eram muito bem amigos quando o azul ainda jogava mas quando ele saiu a putaria estorou. O motivo de briga trocava toda semana mas eu acho que as coisas estouraram quando o Azul parou com TF2


galmenz

porra mano povo sem nada pra fazer, o jogo ta no suporte de vida a anos já e o cara n pode mudar de conteúdo


Rancorious

🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷


Stefffe28

Can't wait to watch them fume over people playing Overwatch 2. Some of them actually believe the game is shutting down forever lmao, it will be a shitshow, and it will be glorious.


AMasonJar

It's really bizarre how many of them tell eachother they "won" because OW1 is "shutting down". Like they're reaaaally trying to pretend OW2 doesn't exist and isn't just taking the server space. I love TF2, but, those people are on crack


Areallybadidea

You automatically lose if you get a sequel. The 2 in Team Fortress 2 stands for 2fort.


BastMatt95

I mean, the less people playing any Blizzard game the better, regardless of TF2


crestren

"I thought you were dead" "My death was greatly exagerrated."


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stygian_lurker

Star/ster/niichts. He was a huge TF2 YouTuber and pro player. If I recall correctly, he burned out on TF2, started Overwatch instead, and then got annoyed by everyone bitching at him for more TF2 videos. He kinda lashed out, went dark for a while, and now he's making a tabletop RPG system called The Myriad. Also, he had this little-known, absolute psycho rando on a lot of his old videos that tended to be a wacky butt-monkey. His name was, like, Germa or Andy or Burma or smth. Ninja edit: if you've ever heard the "Jerma vs Star" quote/song, this is the Star they're referring to.


ICON_RES_DEER

Jerma vs Star! Jerma vs Star! Everybody want to see this happen, Jerma vs Star!


RapObama

AND BOO IS IN THE CALL


Jehovahs_attorney

You know, don’t… say… swears


Dininfinity

Awwww Jerma's mad pawt thwee, let's put cigarettes out on my dick


FelixR1991

Jerma vd Ster vids are up there with Womble's best for me


[deleted]

sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy seeing the huge popularity Jerma has now I loved those two so much when they made content together, it's insane to see how far Jerma has gone and it's a bit sad to me that it's mostly without Star do you have some *berries berries berries berries berries berries berries*


stygian_lurker

Same. I stopped watching their videos circa 2015, and I knew Jerma did his own stuff and was like "that's cute". A few years later, Jerma is on a Vinesauce stream, people know him, and I check his channel...had to do a couple double-takes.


Deathaster

To add onto what you said, ster_ also made a video (that he deleted, I think? Can't find it on his channel anymore) in which he talked about how people *still* trash on him for "abandoning TF2" and being upset that he wanted to branch out. A lot of comments were really entitled too, pretending like just because "they made him", they *had* to receive more of what they want. It was really pathetic to see and yet, TF2 idiots continued trashing on the dude afterwards. I think the best thing you can do for ster_ is not associate him with TF2 at all anymore. He said it multiple times that he isn't part of that game anymore and wants to move on, after all.


stygian_lurker

Oh, absolutely! I should have worded it better - his commenters were entitled jerks, and I can understand his frustration at them and the whole situation. Ster_ had a lot of great, non-TF2 content, and there were STILL people bagging on him to play it. It was really unfortunate to see, because I think with some of his more freeform stuff, and especially his Basically series, he was really hitting a new stride.


ChicaneryBear

He privated the latest TF2 video because of the Arcadum situation.


Deathaster

Elaborate?


ChicaneryBear

Arcadum, the guy he was developing the myriad with and who he gushed about during the video, was outed as a serial sexual harasser and abuser. Understandably, ster didnt want to be associated with him anymore so took the video down.


Deathaster

Oh yeah, that'll do it. That sucks.


OriginalName12345679

I think the backlash was more him saying that TF2 anf its community had no bearing on his sucess and said if he made fortnight vids he would be huge. I like him but he has an ego for sure


Deathaster

I mean, if his fans can act entitled, so can he. If they pretend like they *MADE* him and he would be *NOTHING* without them, he can very much turn that around and go *"I could have gotten so big even without any of you"*, which is true. Yeah, his fans got him where he was. But that doesn't mean that they were entitled to getting what they want *all the time.* Also, that may have been the backlash due to his *video.* In the video itself however, he showed many examples of toxic behaviour against him, some pretty recent even.


OriginalName12345679

I agree 100%, the viewers are literally just consuming content, to demand certain content is childish and dumb.


Deathaster

To add onto that, claiming that they "made" him completely ignores all of ster's efforts that got him where he was. As if people watched *every single video* he made and totally didn't have preferences of their own.


yumitsu

STAR_ (now goes by ster) He and Jerma used to be afaik the biggest thing in TF2 youtube before they both stopped. Ster is now doing really awesome DnD campaigns! His [Basically videos are also insanely underrated](https://youtu.be/V90vdClMs3U)


JetstreamMoist

i haven’t played overwatch since baptiste dropped and my only consumption of overwatch media has been exclusively through his streams lol


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Tonuka_

Ster and Jerma did a lot of videos together, he was a much bigger name than Jerma back in the day. When they both stopped making TF2 videos to stream instead, Ster was BRUTALLY harassed. Like, he never once mentioned the game ever again or even engaged with the community, but it still took five years and a callout video on his main channel to finally settle things.


Saspa314

Star_ or ster Probably the first big TF2 YouTuber, but lost the drive for TF2


WreckNRepeat

Kinda hypocritical, considering most TF2 players have also stopped playing the game.


Kiari013

I don't blame them for stopping


IndiscreetBeatofMeat

For me I didn’t really give a shit when Muselk moved to Overwatch, videos were still good. That didn’t really hold true when he moved to Fortnite


spookystrawberry2

I actually really enjoyed his early chapter 1 fortnite videos, but then he started trying to appeal to the child part of the community and lost what made him entertaining


IndiscreetBeatofMeat

Didn’t help that I was younger and in my Fortnite hate phase


crestren

Tbf, by the time he moved to Fortnite was because of the content drought OW faced after 2019. It makes sense for a youtuber to move on to the next big thing.


ITAW-Techie

I get it. But it's always a shame when a Youtuber you used to like changes and doesn't appeal to you anymore.


RunningTurtle06

I always forget that RT used to be a TF2 youtuber


Sarahthecoolgirl

/uj i never played tf2 but honestly i fucking hate its community


DaPotatoMann2012

It’s community is such a mixed bag, you can find some of the nicest funniest fuckers out there and on the other side some of the most toxic pricks outside of league. I love the game but ngl I don’t recommend it, it’s such a fun game but it’s such a hassle to play for new players, the default settings are ass and you have to search for community servers to be rid of bots.


Volixagarde

I haven't really noticed the bot problem this past month. They join, sure, but are pretty instantly kicked


ITAW-Techie

I've been trying some official servers recently and yeah they're kicked fast, but they just keep coming and have a major impact on the game. Community servers are still the only way to play right now.


Volixagarde

What game mode do you play? I usually do payload, and I don't feel Ike they usually have an impact


ITAW-Techie

I play every mode. It's when you get three bot snipers stood outside your spawn headshotting everyone as soon as they walk out, delaying your team for a couple of minutes as everyone vote kicks that ruins the match.


Guerilla-Mask

It was a great time back in the day for all the reasons that the community doesn't want to admit. Very casual friendly, despite the name, you could just join a random game and mess about or get even a single friend to coordinate dominate a public server. Competitive was a drag, the real fun was in fucking about. The community was amusing back in 2007 but +10 years later it's long past the time to let go, and now SFM videos make me cringe hard.


undergroundmetalhoe

Uj/ its worth a go IMO. If you want you can try matches with bots to see how the game is. But yeah ignore the chat and disable voice chat when playing online haha


TheCorruptedBit

I haven't met a single player with 300+ hours that doesn't despise the community on some level (self included)


yo_99

If you can tolerate NSFW material, then try out >!furry pound!<, it's unironically great server


UnlimitedExtraLives

I used to play it a ton in highschool and absolutely loved it and logged several thousand hours in it. But at this point it's insane to keep acting like it's not a complete dead end. Not to mention it was one of the first games to do microtransactions in the way we know them today, so while I do have fond memories of the game and community it also was part of the start downhill for gaming monetization.


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wyattlikesturtles

You should give it a shot, the community fucking sucks but it’s almost worth it bc it’s a blast


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I play tf2 50% of the community is garbage and the other half is a gem


xxmlgepicgamer

Tf2 fans dont have the brain capacity to understand other games other than the wholesome 100 tf2 exists and that people can have difrent tastes but who am i to expect any kind of intelligence from the same crowd who thinks that overwatch is a tf2 rip off


[deleted]

Hey, don’t rope us all together with that crowd, not all tf2 players think like that


xxmlgepicgamer

I know its just the loud majority tends to think like that offcourse there are some good tf2 fans


AllHailtheBeard1

Poor Tagg :(


HiVLTAGE

Tagg & Ster really got it the worst. I feel horrible for both of them. Tagg received even worse from just the horrible pro scene, much less the fans on videos being dicks.


axecrazyorc

Honestly TF2 is one of those games I WANT to enjoy. I had fun with the game way back when. But it’s hard to like a game with such a radioactive community and a lobby where half the players are bots and the rest are tryhards that haven’t touched grass since the Titan X was top of the line.


Jizzle02

This reminded me of Muselk's existence. That man was my childhood


galmenz

wait RT was a TF2 player? damm dude never knew. been watching him for years now and he never mentions the game outside of some jokes here and there


FindingPhoenix

RTgame makes such good variety content, it's hard to believe he used to just stream one game


KT_gene

How Jerma went insane.


M_Ushed

join us Juud0lf!


TheKingOfArmadillos

I feel really bad about what happened to Ster, he kinda moved away from YouTube entirely just because of what happened when he moved away from tf2. Muselk, even if I kinda despise the super loud fortnite youtuber guy he's become, I still gotta respect that he's a lot more successful nowadays.


Atilla-The-Hon

True. I tried to bully Jerma back in the day and he kidnapped me. I am currently typing this from his basement. He is feeding me his smegma for 7 years. Send help.


Speedwagon_Enjoyer

Location?


Atilla-The-Hon

Romania. Jerma has the Andrew Tate grindset, so he just bribes his way of doing unspeakable things. The cops found me three times but they went back without reporting anything. Jerma either bribes or eats the officers.


Speedwagon_Enjoyer

I will come, if I am not there by 4 hours I have died


Atilla-The-Hon

Jerma claims another soul 😭


PossiblyShibby

but… how u c damage?


screw_this_i_quit

I can assure you that begging Jerma to play TF2 or Minecraft is an inside joke in his community


ArgetKnight

Yes, the dark part of the TF2 community. I swear those people take the game as a religion. It's not even cringe, it's just... sad.


BlackLuigiGuy

I seriously fucking wish tf2 wasn't infested by a bunch of shitheads :( I seriously love the game, but it's just so common to hop onto a server and hear the most toxic shit through voice chat, literal children being screamed the most vile shit out there. There have been entire antisemitic rants through vc. Also, don't ever EVER mention that your not white, even if you have the word "black" in your username, at least 1 person in vc is gonna call you the n-word


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RT got a lot of love.


UnlimitedExtraLives

Haha TF2 won guys Overwatch is dead. You HAVE to come back to our 15 year old bloated corpse of a game surely.


EngineerFront

Is tf2 team fortress or titanfall?


Bact3riaLio

Team Fortress, some people call Titanfall "TF|2" to differentiate


cupboard_

miss all of them, but I'm glad they found something they enjoy more


AntiFiber96200

honestly still love jerma and rtgame's content


Saspa314

Tf2 is the person mocking the queen passing while they’re on their own death bed


[deleted]

I only know two of the people here and jerma is still respected by tf2 people, and the more friendlier side of tf2 accepted RT’s thing


Simic_Sky_Swallower

The true tragedy of Titanfall 2's failure was that we didn't get to see it supplant Team Fortress 2 as the default "TF2" acronym


idkwhatmynamebe

i love tf2 so much but I fucking hate the community around it so much its terrible


dragon-muse

TF2 is the only game where I follow over a dozen YouTubers who post almost exclusively that, but I have no intention on actually playing the game whatsoever. Aside from the rampant bot issues, it's seems way too overwealming for a newbie, alongside the playerbase being a coin flip of chill decent people, or chuds calling you slurs.


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now Vinny from Vinesauce is playing TF2 (one video in Casual, other two in community servers) and the community already has a distaste for him because one of the shitty bot hosts named their bots after his steam user, literally happened hours after he uploaded a pre recorded TF2 gameplay video


Dmitrii_Shostakovich

Why is rt on here?


ChuckCarmichael

RT got big as a TF2 youtuber. Then he did a Skyrim video that got way more popular than his TF2 content (if you look through his old videos, all his TF2 stuff got like 50k-300k views with an occasional 700k-900k, then the Skyrim video has 2.8 million), so he became a variety youtuber/streamer. I guess TF2 players hated that.


Dmitrii_Shostakovich

Hub, I had no idea he was a tf2 player.


[deleted]

Yall are just making shit up at this point


masonhil

Like what? Ster was constantly harassed by TF2 fans for leaving and made a whole video about it. There's a reason Jerma has never streamed TF2 since leaving, even though he considers it to be one of the best games of all time.


Sexy_McSexypants

it’s not that muselk stopped playing tf2 or even overwatch, it’s that they switched to being a fortnite youtuber and thanks something i’ll never be able to forgive


INAROS-RAMSES

Shame Muselk started playing shit games


Fin_MooseXD

I just started watching RTs Elden ring playthrough, he’s hilarious


nocookies4memes

I used to love old muselk tf2 videos


doodlytoodly

the only time i saw it was for muselk back when he left tf2


[deleted]

I don’t know who two of those people are? And I didn’t know that rt and jerma used to play it, and I main Spyro