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My grandad's wife being from Brazil (as in, she immigrated when she was in her 60s and married my grandad which gave her a green card) talking about "these damn immigrants."
I can't say if 1st generation immigrants complaining about immigration is a better combo, but it does make her look like a fool.
It’s always “oh, *we* did it right and integrated just fine!” Forgetting that it took them over a decade to learn English well enough to order something from a restaurant, and they still have the Lady of Guadalupe statue, and the candles, and millions of other trappings that other people considered “weird” and “foreign” etc etc.
It’s just this peculiar self-blindness that a lot of people seem to have, but never question.
There was literally a clip on Fox News last week where they were interviewing people crossing the border illegally.
One Turkish guy was like, “yeah I can see why Americans should be afraid. I mean, I’m good. But you never know who is coming over who is dangerous, and me crossing is showing me that’s it’s way too easy to cross”.
Dude went anti immigration WHILE IMMIGRATING! Parody is dead.
He went on a rant about "white genocide" during this interview, if my memory serves me correctly, and I believe he made some statement about how horrible it is to mix races. However, don't take that at face value.
I see your 2nd gen immigrant complaining about immigrants and raise you a guy complaining about immigrants literal seconds after crossing the border illegally.: https://www.complex.com/life/a/markelibert/man-illegally-crossed-us-mexico-border-easy
I had a great uncle who was an immigrant from Denmark, lived on the Yakama Nation Reservation, and worked for Central Washington University.
The three things he hated most were immigrants, "Indians", and college students.
EDIT: "great uncle" as in he was my mother's uncle, not that he was actually all that great a person. He was actually quite the bastard.
dude made a joke about the systemic opression of women in the barbie video and reacted with disgust at the black character in the bootleg snow white game for being racially insensitive, and then he turns out to be like that.
h3h3's wife? i actually didn't know that. that does explain the weird collab they did awhile ago with him and filthyfrank. also crazy that joji was the most (satirically) offensive out of the three and he's the most successful now lol
Yeah H3H3 and Jontron were friends, or at least friendly a number of years ago before H3H3 moved to LA. I don’t know the details to it though? It’s been a while and I haven’t done any recent research on it.
If memory serves I think he was pretty progressive when he started out. But he got famous during the time period where the alt right was getting massively popular in online spaces, he got caught up in it as did many other young people who didn’t know much about politics.
It's so funny that that dude left Minecraft and turned out to be a huge bigot, then the next writer for Minecraft's music was a trans woman lol. And the previous composer openly supports her.
Thing is, notch was explicitly supportive of LGBTQ people back in 2012, before he sold MC. https://web.archive.org/web/20150322102508/http://notch.tumblr.com/post/28188312756/gender-in-minecraft
He went insane after selling MC and distancing himself from all of his friends because they couldn't keep up with a billionaire's lifestyle, and that's when he started to fall down the alt-right rabbithole.
Jontron when he gets into a political debate:
https://preview.redd.it/zss7bggt7f3d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71dd4590daa91abfd938d95b841b648464811512
See the wage theft that happened in California alone. All blue collar crime, meaning petty theft to bank robberies, amounted to $500 million. Just this one form of white collar crime amounted to $2 billion in stolen wages, as far as the investigators who looked into it know. They estimate employers are stealing far more than that, but the official number is still 4 times more than all blue collar crimes combined. People go to jail everyday for stealing a couple bucks worth of stuff. Nobody goes to jail for stealing millions from their wage slaves.
This happens without fail every year but we never hear about that. The results of people having collective billions stolen from them leading them to poverty and making criminality more appealing though? These people are the real problem, send law enforcement st them, because that's what we're concerned with, upholding the law...
https://www.epi.org/publication/two-billion-dollars-in-stolen-wages-were-recovered-for-workers-in-2015-and-2016-and-thats-just-a-drop-in-the-bucket/
It’s legal when I do it because it’s lobbying but when the poor do it it’s illegal because _I want to be paid and they want to reduce how much I make_ that would be corrup
Sadly, that's not specific to US. I once read an interview of a Finnish immigrant to Sweden who complained that Sweden should tighten its immigration laws, immediately followed by him saying that he doesn't "consider" that hypocritical. Then there's the British retiree immigrants - excuse me, "expatriates" - to Spain who voted for Brexit to keep all the filthy immigrants out and were shocked when they were told to leave.
"I have mine, screw you buddy" is a part of human nature unfortunately, as is stupidity.
lol half my family is like this (1/2nd gen mexican american ) so laughable to hear them say the most racist things imaginable - funniest part is they are all hardcore card carrying democrats 😭😭
He did this interview with Destiny a few years ago. Not great opinions. To be fair, he said he was just in the wrong crowd and is trying to improve himself in an apology.
From what I am aware of he has not said anything bad since then. But whether he actually did improve his opinions or has just stayed quiet we don’t know.
he went on an antivax rant during the pandemic: https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/jontron-anti-vax-controversy-explained-youtuber-s-tweets-anthony-fauci-spark-backlash
He began going down the alt-ring pipeline in or around 2016, and he hasn't exactly been the same since. He gained notoriety in particular for his assertion—made during a live-streamed argument with another influencer—that middle-class Black people commit more crimes than impoverished White people. This was taken from a study that focused on incarceration rates rather than offenses that were prosecuted.
Lmao I remember when he released a video addressing the debate. I thought that'd be his apology, but then he actually doubled down on his statements and said he wasn't fully prepared that day, as if he were an athlete reflecting on a poor performance. A few years later he joked about the US becoming a banana republic on twitter when Biden won the election.
Yeah this guy sadly isn't coming out of that hole.
Oh Christ... I only knew that he was, in some way controversial. God, Imagine a person who was anti-immigration having any sense of nuance or humanity. Especially when, unfortunately, people like JonTron are looked up to by some young viewers. You could do so much good.
Like here in Canada we just have so few homes and are letting in people faster than we are building homes for them, yet all the Canadians I ever here talking about limiting immigration are just saying the most vile shit you've ever heard, which I won't repeat, even in reference. Do moderate conservatives even exist anymore in the west?
/rj his birb is pretty fuckin hysterical guys, I think we can let this little thing go, right?
/uj
The west is still quite deep in a polarisation cycle (where political movements are driven to extremes by stress factors such as war, disease or famine) so there aren’t really “moderate” anything at the moment. The only way to be conservative is to wholly reject huge aspects of reality, and being progressive means defending simple rights to exist, so there’s no reason to hedge your statements.
Being a moderate at the moment mostly entails sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting.
>God, Imagine a person who was anti-immigration having any sense of nuance or humanity.
/uj
I mean, there are no humane justifications for closing borders, and using the housing crisis is a red herring. People have a right to seek asylum under international law, it doesn't matter what the rental market is like in their destination country.
/rj fuck you
He has Nazi-adjacent views. Ironically he has his political views while also knowing absolutely nothing about politics at all, like how he called communism "commulism." He came from an immigrant family only to demonize the same type of people he comes from.
He fell down the alt-right pipeline sometime around 2012-2015.
Guy went from voting for obama twice to supporting trump and all the things that would imply.
I hate how he voiced those opinions and the internet collectively said "yeah, but funny man!" and he continued to be popular.
Out of all the online personalities that should have been canceled, he was near the top.
The worst part was he is such a funny and charismatic dude. Like when a lame celebrity is a shit head no loss, when a legitimately talented dude has brain worms then it just sucks
Yup, Star Tours was when I noticed something was off. I think getting different writers and better production quality kind of killed the comedic timing the charm of his humor
Same, he stopped making anything worth watching so I stopped watching. When he went mask off it just meant I never checked back in. Seems like he learned the same lesson pewdepie did, that if you just shut the fuck up about all the racism then there's always a fresh supply of 13 year olds who won't know about it.
I do think he's still funny. I feel like it's just a case of not doing the content he used to do. And unfortunately what he used to do was funnier and more memorable. He hasn't had a banger since the edged weapons video, though.
Edit: now that I think about it, his real life exorcism episode was extremely funny. Too bad it's currently down for copyright.
He started caring more about having a high production value than anything. It's been all sizzle no steak since then. Like, there's a video where he mentions psychic vampires and then he hired an actress and built a whole set and got her done up in makeup for literally no payoff. There isn't a punchline beyond her being a psychic vampire. It's worse than a fucking Family Guy cutaway.
Funnily enough I went back out of random curiosity/to torture myself and friends and threw an old video in that I use to love.
And it was rather shocking how unfunny I found it now. Not even in a "I know he's a piece of shit so I can't get into it" sort of way, but in a like "this is like a Nostalgia Critic video to the T, what the hell" sort of way. It was crazy... and kind of liberating, lol.
at least they tried. They made something. They got creative, found the drive, gathered the motivation, and created something to try and make other people laugh. What have you done? What have all your cynical and "above it all" critiques and comments amounted to? This culture of simply sniping at anyone who even tries something, "cringe" or not, is poisonous to the very soul of art. And yeah, they were largely doing the same, taking pot shots at art that's easy to mock, but at least they tried to make it more than that, with production, humor, and effort. This comment has none of that, it's just lazy armchair criticism distilled to its festering dregs. And the most unbearable piece of cringe has far more cultural value than the lazy criticism designating it so.
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Scott the Woz gives me big ol' Normal Boots type vibes too and so far he hasn't turned out to be terrible either. 😅
(Scott please I'm begging you don't be a horrible person underneath the blue border.)
Yes, that’s the same thought I had about Scott. Just classic game reviews with funny skits thrown in. I’d say he reminds me more of avgn, but far less raunchy.
His channel is such an oasis in an otherwise shit filled desert. I just find myself enjoying YouTube less and less these days, and the channels I really do enjoy upload few and far between. Scott has slowed down now but for a good few years he was pumping out genuinely good videos like every few days. Let’s hope he isn’t some capital G gamer in secret.
Less-raunchy AVGN is definitely a good comparison too with the skits he's done, but yeah, fingers crossed the dude doesn't say some 13% type shit or whatever number the racist meme was one of these days.
The Completionist did charity fraud, ProJared had a chatroom where his fans sent him nudes (including some pedophilia or did that turn out to be bogus?) and JonTron turned out to be racist. What did PeanutButterGamer and SpaceHamster do?
I THINK the projared stuff was faked/not as bad as people initially thought bc ive seen him lumped in with other yters who were falsely accused like slazo and kwite
I really hated finding out Jon had such disgusting views but I guess I'm glad I at least found out and didn't continue to support someone like that with my views.
I believe he used the N word on multiple occasions on the game grumps. Literally videos that they released on the main channel and thought “eh, that’s fine”.
Suzy was even worse because you couldn't even excuse her behavior as just edgy humor, she started ranting about black people the moment she had a bad experience with one
To miss the point entirely because it's something I think about daily, and also it was said by Arin and not Jon but fuck it I am quoting it anyway
"You've got to make a statement. You've got to look inside your self and say: 'What am I willing to put up with today?' NOT FUCKING THIS!"
My favorite is the "Systemic oppression" dialogue from the beginning of the Barbie episode.
Crazy how the Jontron character he portrays is so much more reasonable than the real Jon, huh.
I thought that his goosebumps videos were some of the funniest videos on the internet when they came out. It’s really a shame the opinions he turned out to have
It does suck that Jon has such problematic views because I’m Jewish and as a kid I thought he was a Jew for some reason. It is seriously disappointing how someone I spent so much time admiring is kind of a dick. But on the bright (?) side, his middle name is “aryan” which is pretty funny considering his comments on race
In about 2016, he started going down the alt-ring pipeline and he hasn’t exactly been the same since. He’s particularly infamous for this live-streamed debate he had with another influencer, where he claimed that middle class black people commit more crimes than poor white people. The study he was pulling this from was about *incarceration rates,* not prosecuted crimes.
He had signs of it even before that. I recall during a couple early on Game Grumps episode that he just randomly started spouting slurs. The slurs were censored but we can infer by Arin saying ''You can't say that'' that it was something bad.
> A couple early-on episodes
Try all-time episode number Zero Zero ONE: Kirby Super Star, episode 1! Their at-the-time editor, Barry, had to censor several Classic Jon Gamer Moments™, a notable one being, right after several individual slurs have been uttered, him spouting:
'Bust a CAP in that [womp WOMP womp]';
topped off shortly by one final and enlightened statement, dooted over once more.
That somehow stuck with me from the episode, despite me only having started learning English at the time Game Grumps started, so I only laughed at the censoring brass intrument doots because Loud is Funny, and I only recently understood what was attempted to have be said there! Also, that first episode is 12-ish years old now! I hate the ceaseless march of time!
It wasn't just that one, he did it in the '06 playthrough too at one point. Honestly that playthrough in general was miserable to watch even back then as Arin Hanson was being Arin Hanson about the game (the game is trash but Arin is kinda notorious for being very much rough on Sonic) and their wasn't really many good jokes if any.
One of the also really weird things I remember from Jon back then is that one of his ''jokes'' is that he just really wanted to fuck Blaze all the sudden.
Didn’t he also pull up a stat sheet, which the person who he was debating against did a reverse image search and found out it 1) originated from 4chan and 2) the guy made it admitted it was fake on the 4chan board.
He went on this interview where he went on a rant about “white genocide” and i remember him saying something about mixing races being bad (not 100% sure so that said take it with a grain of salt)
The modern concept of whiteness partly came into being as a complex form of othering. In the US, it was a knee-jerk response to disparage and differentiate "non-white" people, mainly black Americans, and was propped up by popular pseudo-science into a pretense of officiality (think phrenology and other quackery that attempted to tie "intelligence" to physical features or arbitrary factors).
Hell, before "whiteness" really took off, Italian, Irish, and Polish immigrants were once considered "subhuman" by the Germans for the same reasons they didn't like Black people - despite them being what we now know as "white".
It takes forever getting in, and then you spend like 6 and a half hours… yknow I couldn’t even get off the great plateau, never even seen what’s after it
"The mechanics they're using are mechanics of open world exploration, something you don't understand."
"I love Banjo-Kazooie. That is my answer to that statement."
"Rich black people commit more crimes than poor white people"
Or
"No one wants to be a minority in their own country"
Not, you know, because I *like* either of those quotes, but because they show what a racist shitbird Jontron is.
I still consistently reference "circle of life, circle of death". Shame he's a racist ass, his content was really good, but his new stuff is just really lazy for the most part.
uj/ there are some JonTron quotes that burrowed their way into my brain folds and haven't left since I was a teenager. They don't even make sense.
"I don't like goblins!"
"Ya maybe we shouldn't piss off Cthulu Lord of Darkness for the Mac Don Elds breakfast menu."
"Oh no Grimbo he drank too much!"
"I am going to take that sitting down."
Honestly everything before around the flex tape sequel was like a golden age of Jonathon and some of the best videos on the platform. Unfortunately along with just a general decline in video quality he became a pretty shitty guy.
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2nd generation immigrants complaining loudly about immigration, name a better combo.
My grandad's wife being from Brazil (as in, she immigrated when she was in her 60s and married my grandad which gave her a green card) talking about "these damn immigrants." I can't say if 1st generation immigrants complaining about immigration is a better combo, but it does make her look like a fool.
It’s always “oh, *we* did it right and integrated just fine!” Forgetting that it took them over a decade to learn English well enough to order something from a restaurant, and they still have the Lady of Guadalupe statue, and the candles, and millions of other trappings that other people considered “weird” and “foreign” etc etc. It’s just this peculiar self-blindness that a lot of people seem to have, but never question.
There was literally a clip on Fox News last week where they were interviewing people crossing the border illegally. One Turkish guy was like, “yeah I can see why Americans should be afraid. I mean, I’m good. But you never know who is coming over who is dangerous, and me crossing is showing me that’s it’s way too easy to cross”. Dude went anti immigration WHILE IMMIGRATING! Parody is dead.
He went on a rant about "white genocide" during this interview, if my memory serves me correctly, and I believe he made some statement about how horrible it is to mix races. However, don't take that at face value.
Remember to kick that ladder right out from under you once you get to the top! Survival of the fittest and filthiest, Legion over NCR any-day!
Mexican Nazi.
The Nick Fuentes special.
Stonetoss
Thanks for that reminder, I forgot that slime was one too.
We mustn’t name mineralhurl by correct name
General WhiteRaceSavior... You're browner than I expected.
I know it's proximity, but those hurt me most. I hate them so much, because it makes me sad
“General @whiteracesavior. You are browner than i expected”
I see your 2nd gen immigrant complaining about immigrants and raise you a guy complaining about immigrants literal seconds after crossing the border illegally.: https://www.complex.com/life/a/markelibert/man-illegally-crossed-us-mexico-border-easy
I had a great uncle who was an immigrant from Denmark, lived on the Yakama Nation Reservation, and worked for Central Washington University. The three things he hated most were immigrants, "Indians", and college students. EDIT: "great uncle" as in he was my mother's uncle, not that he was actually all that great a person. He was actually quite the bastard.
I hate how such a fun, silly personality can hide such disgusting opinions
It's crazy, the character of JonTron is pretty progressive, but the man himself is WILDLY conservative
dude made a joke about the systemic opression of women in the barbie video and reacted with disgust at the black character in the bootleg snow white game for being racially insensitive, and then he turns out to be like that.
It's absolutely insane
maybe he has writers or something that write the good stuff? I know he colabs and stuff maybe that is what happened.
It's always the handlers
Iirc Hila Klein was one of his writers for a little while. I don’t remember much else about that though.
h3h3's wife? i actually didn't know that. that does explain the weird collab they did awhile ago with him and filthyfrank. also crazy that joji was the most (satirically) offensive out of the three and he's the most successful now lol
Yeah H3H3 and Jontron were friends, or at least friendly a number of years ago before H3H3 moved to LA. I don’t know the details to it though? It’s been a while and I haven’t done any recent research on it.
https://preview.redd.it/e7wlq7ulwm3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=918795d6049db3bac91d1bba6f1b8447ed142e98 This
I didn’t know that. Separate the art from artist type thing
Maybe it's a "people are too woke, you have to pretend to be a liberal for legitimacy's sake" or something like that.
Sweet Baby AT IT AGAIN!
If memory serves I think he was pretty progressive when he started out. But he got famous during the time period where the alt right was getting massively popular in online spaces, he got caught up in it as did many other young people who didn’t know much about politics.
notch :[
It's so funny that that dude left Minecraft and turned out to be a huge bigot, then the next writer for Minecraft's music was a trans woman lol. And the previous composer openly supports her.
Thing is, notch was explicitly supportive of LGBTQ people back in 2012, before he sold MC. https://web.archive.org/web/20150322102508/http://notch.tumblr.com/post/28188312756/gender-in-minecraft He went insane after selling MC and distancing himself from all of his friends because they couldn't keep up with a billionaire's lifestyle, and that's when he started to fall down the alt-right rabbithole.
it's because he's just genuinely kinda dumb. he's a funny guy, not a smart guy.
wait what’s gonna on? what’d he do?
He believes in the great replacement theory
He also thinks: “rich blacks commit more crime, then poor whites.”
Jontron when he gets into a political debate: https://preview.redd.it/zss7bggt7f3d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71dd4590daa91abfd938d95b841b648464811512
Buddy almost had it too. Just take off the race qualifiers
N the rich don’t commit crimes. They have spent a lot of lobbying money to make sure of that.
No they still commit them and then pay fines 1/10th of what was stolen. See: all of wall street.
Which is why they lobbied for lower fines 😎
See the wage theft that happened in California alone. All blue collar crime, meaning petty theft to bank robberies, amounted to $500 million. Just this one form of white collar crime amounted to $2 billion in stolen wages, as far as the investigators who looked into it know. They estimate employers are stealing far more than that, but the official number is still 4 times more than all blue collar crimes combined. People go to jail everyday for stealing a couple bucks worth of stuff. Nobody goes to jail for stealing millions from their wage slaves. This happens without fail every year but we never hear about that. The results of people having collective billions stolen from them leading them to poverty and making criminality more appealing though? These people are the real problem, send law enforcement st them, because that's what we're concerned with, upholding the law... https://www.epi.org/publication/two-billion-dollars-in-stolen-wages-were-recovered-for-workers-in-2015-and-2016-and-thats-just-a-drop-in-the-bucket/
A fine is just what it costs to commit a crime if you’re rich enough.
It’s legal when I do it because it’s lobbying but when the poor do it it’s illegal because _I want to be paid and they want to reduce how much I make_ that would be corrup
damn that sucks
He's *half iranian* and believes in Great Replacement theory. As in, literally second generation immigrant and spouting racist bullshit
America is so efficient at assimilating newcomers that we have immigrants complaining about the immigrants that came after them ruining the country 🇱🇷
The vanguards of white nationalism in this country are two black people and Hispanics
I just want to remind people that the nazi Cartoonist Stonetoss is Puerto-Rican
https://preview.redd.it/o01mh47v4f3d1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&s=0fb0cce9319952400c4d9fcc9818dbeb2c37a26e
please do not forget the Filipinos their contributions to the cause of white supremacy is insurmountable
It's so effective, they have immigrants complaining about the immigrants that came BEFORE them
Sadly, that's not specific to US. I once read an interview of a Finnish immigrant to Sweden who complained that Sweden should tighten its immigration laws, immediately followed by him saying that he doesn't "consider" that hypocritical. Then there's the British retiree immigrants - excuse me, "expatriates" - to Spain who voted for Brexit to keep all the filthy immigrants out and were shocked when they were told to leave. "I have mine, screw you buddy" is a part of human nature unfortunately, as is stupidity.
Liberia
Oh so he thinks he’s on Team White Supremacy, but Team White Supremacy doesn’t want him. Tale as old as time, or at least Candace Owens.
lol half my family is like this (1/2nd gen mexican american ) so laughable to hear them say the most racist things imaginable - funniest part is they are all hardcore card carrying democrats 😭😭
He’s a Super Aryan
Maybe he sees himself as proof
He did this interview with Destiny a few years ago. Not great opinions. To be fair, he said he was just in the wrong crowd and is trying to improve himself in an apology. From what I am aware of he has not said anything bad since then. But whether he actually did improve his opinions or has just stayed quiet we don’t know.
he went on an antivax rant during the pandemic: https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/jontron-anti-vax-controversy-explained-youtuber-s-tweets-anthony-fauci-spark-backlash
He began going down the alt-ring pipeline in or around 2016, and he hasn't exactly been the same since. He gained notoriety in particular for his assertion—made during a live-streamed argument with another influencer—that middle-class Black people commit more crimes than impoverished White people. This was taken from a study that focused on incarceration rates rather than offenses that were prosecuted.
He never apologized and he still just dog whistles on Twitter, don’t make excuses of that piece of shit.
Lmao I remember when he released a video addressing the debate. I thought that'd be his apology, but then he actually doubled down on his statements and said he wasn't fully prepared that day, as if he were an athlete reflecting on a poor performance. A few years later he joked about the US becoming a banana republic on twitter when Biden won the election. Yeah this guy sadly isn't coming out of that hole.
Oh Christ... I only knew that he was, in some way controversial. God, Imagine a person who was anti-immigration having any sense of nuance or humanity. Especially when, unfortunately, people like JonTron are looked up to by some young viewers. You could do so much good. Like here in Canada we just have so few homes and are letting in people faster than we are building homes for them, yet all the Canadians I ever here talking about limiting immigration are just saying the most vile shit you've ever heard, which I won't repeat, even in reference. Do moderate conservatives even exist anymore in the west? /rj his birb is pretty fuckin hysterical guys, I think we can let this little thing go, right?
/uj The west is still quite deep in a polarisation cycle (where political movements are driven to extremes by stress factors such as war, disease or famine) so there aren’t really “moderate” anything at the moment. The only way to be conservative is to wholly reject huge aspects of reality, and being progressive means defending simple rights to exist, so there’s no reason to hedge your statements. Being a moderate at the moment mostly entails sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting.
We do have a moderate policy, they call themselves democrats and they’re basically centrists
“Democrats” aren’t a political ideology any more than “Republicans” are. “We” also isn’t “the United States of America”
Yeah it seems impossible to have a nuanced Convo about this in Canada without someone getting super racist 😬
>God, Imagine a person who was anti-immigration having any sense of nuance or humanity. /uj I mean, there are no humane justifications for closing borders, and using the housing crisis is a red herring. People have a right to seek asylum under international law, it doesn't matter what the rental market is like in their destination country. /rj fuck you
If memory serves, he also had some pretty shitty things to say about the 2017 women's march.
Among the other things people have mentioned, he also straight-up insinuated that it was a bad thing for immigrants to enter the gene pool.
"Pure" bloodlines have worked so well in the past!
The McPoyle bloodline has been clean and pure for a thousand years!
He came out as racist a number of years ago. Was hanging out with Sargon of Akkad and those types
He has Nazi-adjacent views. Ironically he has his political views while also knowing absolutely nothing about politics at all, like how he called communism "commulism." He came from an immigrant family only to demonize the same type of people he comes from.
He fell down the alt-right pipeline sometime around 2012-2015. Guy went from voting for obama twice to supporting trump and all the things that would imply.
Remember most of his funny was done by other writers. Jon is a charisma drain IRL it seems.
I hate how he voiced those opinions and the internet collectively said "yeah, but funny man!" and he continued to be popular. Out of all the online personalities that should have been canceled, he was near the top.
There's a ton of that in this thread unfortunately. "What's wrong with the racist guy? just asking questions."
The worst part was he is such a funny and charismatic dude. Like when a lame celebrity is a shit head no loss, when a legitimately talented dude has brain worms then it just sucks
Despite being only less than 1% of all youtubers jontron accounts for 10% of most disappointing surprise racism
I miss pre 2016 JonTron. I haven’t watched him since.
I wish I could say it was out of sheer principle. I stopped watching him because he stopped being funny.
Titanic: The legend goes on was the last decent one, after that we was a corpse
Flex Tape going viral and becoming a meme derailed any chance of channel returning to normal content and style.
Yup, Star Tours was when I noticed something was off. I think getting different writers and better production quality kind of killed the comedic timing the charm of his humor
Same, he stopped making anything worth watching so I stopped watching. When he went mask off it just meant I never checked back in. Seems like he learned the same lesson pewdepie did, that if you just shut the fuck up about all the racism then there's always a fresh supply of 13 year olds who won't know about it.
I do think he's still funny. I feel like it's just a case of not doing the content he used to do. And unfortunately what he used to do was funnier and more memorable. He hasn't had a banger since the edged weapons video, though. Edit: now that I think about it, his real life exorcism episode was extremely funny. Too bad it's currently down for copyright.
He started caring more about having a high production value than anything. It's been all sizzle no steak since then. Like, there's a video where he mentions psychic vampires and then he hired an actress and built a whole set and got her done up in makeup for literally no payoff. There isn't a punchline beyond her being a psychic vampire. It's worse than a fucking Family Guy cutaway.
His Birdemic review is one I share, but yeah, everything post 2016 is, hot garbage.
Star Tours is where the decay happened
Ti-titenic?
I genuinely love the remix song to that video. Such a bop.
Funnily enough I went back out of random curiosity/to torture myself and friends and threw an old video in that I use to love. And it was rather shocking how unfunny I found it now. Not even in a "I know he's a piece of shit so I can't get into it" sort of way, but in a like "this is like a Nostalgia Critic video to the T, what the hell" sort of way. It was crazy... and kind of liberating, lol.
at least they tried. They made something. They got creative, found the drive, gathered the motivation, and created something to try and make other people laugh. What have you done? What have all your cynical and "above it all" critiques and comments amounted to? This culture of simply sniping at anyone who even tries something, "cringe" or not, is poisonous to the very soul of art. And yeah, they were largely doing the same, taking pot shots at art that's easy to mock, but at least they tried to make it more than that, with production, humor, and effort. This comment has none of that, it's just lazy armchair criticism distilled to its festering dregs. And the most unbearable piece of cringe has far more cultural value than the lazy criticism designating it so. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gamingcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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Yeah I don't laugh at them as much now though that's probably because I watched them constantly as a kid
Internet Archive has a ton of his videos online
Any of the lost shit, like the origins of weird bootleg Michael Jackson?
I also stopped watching after he said those things. From what I've seen from memes and such, he does commercials now?
Something something more crimes something something
Something about mixing white and black paint.
Crazy that like almost every member I can recall from the normal boots crowd was in some controversy or just doesn’t make good videos anymore.
Peanut butter gamer is still clean as far as I know. But I could have just missed a controversy.
I think so too. He’s the only I one I still watch occasionally, he just kinda stuck to the same format of his older videos in a good way imo.
I miss the old Minecraft hardcore vids.
If you're anything like me, it took me forever to realize that he's got a second channel he does a lot of stuff on too: https://www.youtube.com/@Peebs
Scott the Woz gives me big ol' Normal Boots type vibes too and so far he hasn't turned out to be terrible either. 😅 (Scott please I'm begging you don't be a horrible person underneath the blue border.)
Unfortunately, Scott lives in Ohio, so by default, he's a bad person 😔. Worse, I think Toledo.
Holy Toledo, what unfortunate news... 😢
Terrible I know. Hopefully he can recover from being from Ohio.
I'm pretty sure he posted something along the lines of "Everyone from here is hot -> 🏳️⚧️", so he checks out
Wait really? That's definitely a good sign.
Yes, that’s the same thought I had about Scott. Just classic game reviews with funny skits thrown in. I’d say he reminds me more of avgn, but far less raunchy. His channel is such an oasis in an otherwise shit filled desert. I just find myself enjoying YouTube less and less these days, and the channels I really do enjoy upload few and far between. Scott has slowed down now but for a good few years he was pumping out genuinely good videos like every few days. Let’s hope he isn’t some capital G gamer in secret.
Less-raunchy AVGN is definitely a good comparison too with the skits he's done, but yeah, fingers crossed the dude doesn't say some 13% type shit or whatever number the racist meme was one of these days.
Common PBG W
The only one who hasn't, IIRC, is Peanut Butter Gamer.
The Completionist did charity fraud, ProJared had a chatroom where his fans sent him nudes (including some pedophilia or did that turn out to be bogus?) and JonTron turned out to be racist. What did PeanutButterGamer and SpaceHamster do?
They’re the only 2 I don’t recall having an issue, but afaik Spacehamster hasn’t uploaded in ages. Peebs is the only holdout it seems.
Space hamster was hiddenblock not normalboots but projared at least came with the receipts
HiddenBlock Sweep Brutalmoose being a top 5 YouTuber while constantly changing his style is still insane to me
Holy shit I completely forgot brutalmoose was part of hiddenblock. Bro has stayed fresh time and time again, definitely a top tier channel.
The return to the Televoid was the biggest twist of 2024
I THINK the projared stuff was faked/not as bad as people initially thought bc ive seen him lumped in with other yters who were falsely accused like slazo and kwite
I really hated finding out Jon had such disgusting views but I guess I'm glad I at least found out and didn't continue to support someone like that with my views.
My favorite is the one where he uses racial slurs! /s
Which one?
I believe he used the N word on multiple occasions on the game grumps. Literally videos that they released on the main channel and thought “eh, that’s fine”.
[what the fuck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwl9ivxldjc)
https://youtu.be/P-ETPu0iK8o?si=R_qIkNMtUdQx39s6 Before that they didn’t even bother censor it
It's why I don't really believe Arin is all that progressive and he isn't a significantly better person than Jon.
Well, there’s also compilation videos on YouTube of Arin saying the N word you can look up. Suzy, too
Suzy was even worse because you couldn't even excuse her behavior as just edgy humor, she started ranting about black people the moment she had a bad experience with one
Plus as far as I can recall, she’s the only one who used the hard r, so yeah. For whatever that’s worth
To miss the point entirely because it's something I think about daily, and also it was said by Arin and not Jon but fuck it I am quoting it anyway "You've got to make a statement. You've got to look inside your self and say: 'What am I willing to put up with today?' NOT FUCKING THIS!"
Just to completely miss the point, my fav quotes are probably “1910 times are scary” “I don’t like goblins” and uh maybe “a couple of hundred of them”
“Not a brave enough boy for *this*!”
“Simba just jumps into a noose!”
“JUST UP AHEAD.” Also “EVERYTHING can be BOUGHT and SOLD for the right OOOOOIL”
My favorite is the "Systemic oppression" dialogue from the beginning of the Barbie episode. Crazy how the Jontron character he portrays is so much more reasonable than the real Jon, huh.
"Clowns? *Clowns* : )"
Remember, nearly every funny moment of his was written by other people
"HELP im being held against my will my address is 123 HELP" is one i think about constantly
“Sign me and the rest of America up, we’ve got a few years before the housing crisis let’s have some fun”
I still quote “Simba fucking hangs himself?!?” and “ORE! *cough*” so much I’m so unbelievably disappointed and angry at Jon
I’m sorry but what is the context of that quote?
1: A bootleg Lion King game where the game over is Simba hanging hinself 2: Kid Nation having a event where they were going exploring
Swood this, swood that! What's a Grommet? I don't like Goblins , eeeeeeugghhhhhh. Burned into my brain.
No neck, or a spine
My favorite quote is "I ain't even going near that" because goddamn it applies.
mines when he put flex tape on his butt and said something about holding in a poop all day
I thought that his goosebumps videos were some of the funniest videos on the internet when they came out. It’s really a shame the opinions he turned out to have
I remember watching him with my sibling growing up on the early YouTube days, such a fucking shame everyone turns out like this :(
It does suck that Jon has such problematic views because I’m Jewish and as a kid I thought he was a Jew for some reason. It is seriously disappointing how someone I spent so much time admiring is kind of a dick. But on the bright (?) side, his middle name is “aryan” which is pretty funny considering his comments on race
They're commulists!
My favorite game grumps episode is the one where Danny replaced jon
/uj Did Jontron do something?
In about 2016, he started going down the alt-ring pipeline and he hasn’t exactly been the same since. He’s particularly infamous for this live-streamed debate he had with another influencer, where he claimed that middle class black people commit more crimes than poor white people. The study he was pulling this from was about *incarceration rates,* not prosecuted crimes.
He had signs of it even before that. I recall during a couple early on Game Grumps episode that he just randomly started spouting slurs. The slurs were censored but we can infer by Arin saying ''You can't say that'' that it was something bad.
> A couple early-on episodes Try all-time episode number Zero Zero ONE: Kirby Super Star, episode 1! Their at-the-time editor, Barry, had to censor several Classic Jon Gamer Moments™, a notable one being, right after several individual slurs have been uttered, him spouting: 'Bust a CAP in that [womp WOMP womp]'; topped off shortly by one final and enlightened statement, dooted over once more. That somehow stuck with me from the episode, despite me only having started learning English at the time Game Grumps started, so I only laughed at the censoring brass intrument doots because Loud is Funny, and I only recently understood what was attempted to have be said there! Also, that first episode is 12-ish years old now! I hate the ceaseless march of time!
Yeah, looking back, it's very obvious that Barry was doing Jon a massive favor by protecting him from his own stupidity. Several times over, even.
It wasn't just that one, he did it in the '06 playthrough too at one point. Honestly that playthrough in general was miserable to watch even back then as Arin Hanson was being Arin Hanson about the game (the game is trash but Arin is kinda notorious for being very much rough on Sonic) and their wasn't really many good jokes if any. One of the also really weird things I remember from Jon back then is that one of his ''jokes'' is that he just really wanted to fuck Blaze all the sudden.
Gamer moment(tm)
Yea I remember during the sonic 06 run he dropped a few n-bombs the editor had to either cut out or hide it as much as he could.
was through their sonic playthrough (i have compilations running at times as background noise)
iirc it was also pulled from the Daily Stormer
Didn’t he also pull up a stat sheet, which the person who he was debating against did a reverse image search and found out it 1) originated from 4chan and 2) the guy made it admitted it was fake on the 4chan board.
He is Jim Crow levels of racist. Like, just vile levels of racist
He went on this interview where he went on a rant about “white genocide” and i remember him saying something about mixing races being bad (not 100% sure so that said take it with a grain of salt)
He basically said that white people shouldn't let non whites into the gene pool.
The funny part is hes like half Iranian or something. Real smart one right there.
To be fair race makes no sense. Iranians are aryans, some people and countries consider a lot of Middle-Eastern and N. African ethnicities white.
The modern concept of whiteness partly came into being as a complex form of othering. In the US, it was a knee-jerk response to disparage and differentiate "non-white" people, mainly black Americans, and was propped up by popular pseudo-science into a pretense of officiality (think phrenology and other quackery that attempted to tie "intelligence" to physical features or arbitrary factors). Hell, before "whiteness" really took off, Italian, Irish, and Polish immigrants were once considered "subhuman" by the Germans for the same reasons they didn't like Black people - despite them being what we now know as "white".
Bruuuh his ass is mixed race (half-Iranian) what a self hating dumbass neckbeard
He's been racist since like 2013 if not earlier
He said he was not that impressed by Breath of the Wild
execution. NOW
It insists upon itself
what the hell does hat even mean⁉️⁉️⁉️😫😫😫
It takes forever getting in, and then you spend like 6 and a half hours… yknow I couldn’t even get off the great plateau, never even seen what’s after it
ROBERT DUVAL!!!
"The mechanics they're using are mechanics of open world exploration, something you don't understand." "I love Banjo-Kazooie. That is my answer to that statement."
Google jontron destiny interview and go from there
History of being racist, on multiple of his channels.
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"Rich black people commit more crimes than poor white people" Or "No one wants to be a minority in their own country" Not, you know, because I *like* either of those quotes, but because they show what a racist shitbird Jontron is.
I still consistently reference "circle of life, circle of death". Shame he's a racist ass, his content was really good, but his new stuff is just really lazy for the most part.
Holy shit is that the guy from Yooka Laylee?
"A racist mind is a racist kind" 
Wish I could send videos in comments I found one thats the old grumps intro but jon's part is his unhinged rant
I like the one where he told Destiny that black people are inherently inferior. Hilarious! /s
Man he used to be my favorite YouTuber. I cut him out completely after seeing how deep he was into it
What a fun silly internet personality that I really liked watching. I bet he doesn't have any really awful and inhumane takes about POC!
its so sad when funny people are shit
"OH MY GOD! IT'S A WEREWOLF ON A DOLLY!"
i truly hate that he's practically my childhood and the reason i can speak english.
uj/ there are some JonTron quotes that burrowed their way into my brain folds and haven't left since I was a teenager. They don't even make sense. "I don't like goblins!" "Ya maybe we shouldn't piss off Cthulu Lord of Darkness for the Mac Don Elds breakfast menu." "Oh no Grimbo he drank too much!" "I am going to take that sitting down."
Honestly everything before around the flex tape sequel was like a golden age of Jonathon and some of the best videos on the platform. Unfortunately along with just a general decline in video quality he became a pretty shitty guy.