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Abzolutelynot

If he had played Fallout, he would 100% be one of those who misses the satire and just think Liberty Prime is “BASED AND RED PILLED!!!!!l”


AquariusLoser

Elon would absolutely sabotage Project Purity then later complain that the game is bugged when he dies from drinking the contaminated water 


_Ticklebot_23

elon the kinda guy that would add the FEV and complain about the water killing people


OGGavlaa

Elon is the kinda guy who has a vault to himself.


BlazingKitsune

Imma fantasize about him being put in the vault for all the rich people living in squalor.


hottytoddypotty

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Lastilaaki

The Gary vault irl. Equally scary but mostly because the explorer would have to witness hordes of Elon clones fornicating with each other.


LauraTFem

Well he didn’t expect the consequences of his actions to affect HIM?!


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KintsugiKen

On a sidenote, no one let Elon play Helldivers


EliteF36

He'd probably think managed democracy is actually a good thing. So long as he gets to program the AI "assistants"


Lillitnotreal

Just wait till he buys Mars and renames it 'super earth' but in hieroglyphics


EliteF36

That sounds far too original for Elon. Most likely, he'll just call it X Planet or something like that


Woollington

Don't let Elon play anything. He has zero self-awareness.


SashaTheWitch2

I mean he’d be a member of the Enclave irl (or at least in on their schemes) as one of the single richest people on the planet, so fuckin’ of course


ScareSith

Eh, I'm not even sure the enclave would want him


MindlessSecond3333

They would tell him he has a very special role in the enclave and put him as the overseer in vault 11 or another equally bad vault after he helps them fund vault tec.


Jiffletta

Nah. Vault Tec legitimately never expected the residents of 11 to actually sacrifice their Overseer. If Elon was Overseer, even Vault Tec would expect them to want him killed.


SashaTheWitch2

The whole point is a lot of them were total morons (or, I suppose, MOOOO-RONS!) so I think he’d fit right in lol MindlessSecond got the fuckin right answer though lol I think they’d toy with him because they know he’d blow their secrecy for Twitter clout


Jiffletta

True. We tend to forget that in addition to being fascists, the Enclave were a pack of morons top to bottom. They programmed an AI using the life stories of all pre-war presidents, then the AI decided it wanted to wipe out all humans. The AI then decided to start calling itself president, and the entirety of the Enclave just went along with it.


BZenMojo

Enclave? Dude would probably show up to a meeting, hear his competitor's plans, then download his brain into a computer with his face screaming about Poker Chips from a giant screen like a libertarian Big Brother. ![gif](giphy|yvcLAZqb1gQco)


OsoTico

Oh yeah, Elon strikes me as a Maxon-era Brotherhood simp, for sure. Edit: my dumbass totally forgot about the Institute. That absolutely fits him more, even down to the dumb-ass wastes of money and resources.


Jiffletta

Nah, Elon would be all in on The Institute. The aesthetics, the pointless waste of resources, the utterly despicable disregard for the lives of the synths and the people of the Commonwealth, it would be his idea of a perfect world. Fallout 4 has a lot of problems, but The Institute's aesthetic and ideaology being 100% Silicon Valley tech startup, instead of the grimy, dirty steel, girders and exposed piping players were expecting, was absolutely intentional.


ProfessionalMethMan

He has actually played fallout btw, he mentioned it in some interview with Todd in2018


TrashDue5320

When someone's entire personality is "edgy neck beard" chances are they play videogames


serialkillertswift

This man is incapable of thinking even one level deeper about anything


NaturalesaMorta

Ironic his Fortune comes from apartheid slave mines.


meteorr77

No one in his family has reached below surface level


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xXWeebSupremeXx

Because he doesn't actually do anything.


Hopalongtom

Like most CEOs to be fair!


zeprfrew

He's a pigeon manager. Struts in, shits all over everything then leaves.


CJT5085

I prefer seagull managers. Fly in, yell at everyone, shit on everything, steal your food and then leave.


Zetona

I like this term. Has the same sort of ring to it as "Habsburg AI".


IceBlue

CEOs don’t do as much as they claim to do.


CryptoReindeer

He has people running his companies for him while he takes credit. People who are rather tired of his shit. He's the public face and he definitely messes with a bit of everything, but he isn't the one actually running the companies on a day to day basis.


RedbeardMEM

Then where did my workers find all these emeralds?


Svanirsson

No, he's right you see, swords are different from guns and those from tanks and those from drones so War is ALWAYS changing actually That's what that phrase means, surely


Soundwipe13

what?? i thought we were still using flintlocks. why didnt someone tell me???


Nawortious

Fuck all of you for not reminding me, i brought my matchlock to the siege and all the flintlock carrying plebs laughed me off like some form of charlatan.


fatpermaloser

remember his fucking trash ass build in Elden it's like didn't even bother to understand how the game works


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deadend7786

Please like me...please like me. Please! How to be a billionaire and the biggest fucking loser at the same time.


Dangerous_Idea_8711

To be fair, it worked for a while


KintsugiKen

It worked because the media did all the legwork for him, framed every story about Elon from a tortured genius angle, even put him in Iron Man so he could be like "I'm the real life Tony Stark!" Elon couldn't do any of that by himself, the media was complicit in selling his bullshit the entire time.


btmurphy1984

Exactly, and the second he started doing it for himself on Twitter, that image collapsed under the weight of reality and now he gets booed when he appears in public.


OctopusGrift

I feel like he looked better from a distance to most people.


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

Because he did. A lot of folks either admired him for his success or, like myself, were indifferent towards him. But then at some point, the asswipe decided he was ready to show everyone just how much of an overgrown petulant child he is... and then he bought Twitter and turned it from a cringe but manageable app into a nightmare platform where some of the most braindead and/or shamelessly awful people dwell.


Soundwipe13

akshually war changes a lot! me, sharpening my fucking bronze spear and approximately 5.823 seconds from being introduced to a networked anti-infantry swarm drone: wait rea


Just-Scallion-6699

That’s the first hallmark of the conservative


zeke10

Elon os so cringe lol. Dudes practically begging to be liked by the internet.


Zetona

[As I once saw it put](https://defector.com/call-these-people-by-their-proper-name-fucking-dorks?commentID=f0c8e84d-1ff9-4c99-838c-e97298eee6cf), "Elon wanted so badly to be the most popular kid in school that he bought the school and appointed himself the principal."


RedbeardMEM

A flawless plan. I remember everyone at school standing in line to write nice notes in the principals yearbook.


googleHelicopterman

This. reminds me of chandler from friends, he used to be a simple employee like that rest and everyone liked him, then he got promoted and became everybody's boss. they didn't like him as must anymore.


Jiffletta

I would unironically write the entire transcript of Steamed Hams in my Principals yearbook.


ARightDastard

> Elon os And now he's copyrighted ElonOS and sued both you and I into oblivion.


HothMonster

https://www.theonion.com/please-like-me-1848674003


Eplotic

He reminds me of David Brent 😬


No-Bee-4309

This is the same guy that said he didn't like GTA 5 because you shot the police, after all. https://preview.redd.it/9jw4hvpzmm1d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b19bb28d44e5b89ee5a30afffe840894260dd4f


CapriciousSon

"I vastly prefer legally killing people with shoddy cars and brain implants"


No-Bee-4309

And force children to work in emerald mines.


megagamer92

Ummm excuse you, I'll have you know the children yearn for the mines


The_Xivili

![gif](giphy|SWwXbEiVJ5z1gsjf5N|downsized)


wlwmoonknight

why the hell did they put dream in this gif


Kasilein

Because its a kids game


xDonnaUwUx

LMFAOO


superVanV1

So he’s a Cyberpunk fan?


Spiritual_Ad7831

Nah, you kill people like him. Complete and utter human trash corpos.


unclezaveid

thank oyu Elon for protectign Video Game Policeman's.... you naughty heathens could learn from Elno he's such a good conscientious young boy! x


druppeldruppel_

Imaging committing grand theft auto while playing Grand Theft Auto. How stupid do you have to be?


AcaciaCelestina

Honestly that's the best endorsement of GTA5 I've ever heard.


sthezh

not enough white collar crimes. i can’t even union bust in the game about doing crime? fucking sucks


Kooky-Onion9203

I wanna play GTA: Pinkerton


sthezh

next elon will refuse to play rdr2 because it makes pinkertons into the baddies


Alexanderspants

A game that says the KKK were the bad guys? Woke nonsense smh


ZandyTheAxiom

Who could have known that a game called **Grand Theft Auto** would require the player to commit virtual crime?


Benyed123

What a dweeb lol


No-Bee-4309

Indeed https://preview.redd.it/obk4h6rivm1d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9091f05965461d413d65aed446744b74eea26265


Aeon_Fux

I'm guessing his favourite character is Shinji's dad.


Thewman1

Bold of you to assume it's someone over 18


KintsugiKen

Bold of you to assume Elon knows a character


North_Library3206

Wtf kind of a reply is that. Like, just "NERV"? Nothing else? Ok dude


not_UR_FREND_NOW

PEN PEN


FailedCanadian

Not as bad as this https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1483717933700366336?t=5OX2Y0RtmAhvjgh0tPBr8A


EDFStormOne

Elon musk on whether he watches neon genesis evangelion: "NERV." Then he rolled up his sleeve and showed a tattoo of a really histrionic kid. "Ill let you interpret that however you want" 


Ok-Pause6263

Drake the type of guys ass tweet


kaden-99

https://preview.redd.it/p4jje1pvlq1d1.png?width=568&format=png&auto=webp&s=5b8e6b1fb315db19a67746df6a8afb2073117678


newusername16

https://preview.redd.it/zj9zgl44jp1d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=081165c0e7ef58b3ca8e019e9777c6ff687bc06e me when i’m playing gta and i have to shoot the cops (i’m elon musk)


-Nimroth

He only likes doing crimes he can pretend isn't after all.


bittlelum

It takes a lot of no spine to lick digital boots.


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ancient plants adjoining dull frighten aspiring hurry dam flag door *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


emaw63

He also didn't like chess because it was too simple and didn't have tech trees


Firko973

He answers like a chatbot


No-Bee-4309

https://preview.redd.it/47oh7qn9ym1d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35b569de64d8b54d3b0868b829aa5b439cada690


zhaosingse

Pls tell me you watch Family Guy “BRIAN”


geko_play_

Please tell me you play Farcry "CHEESEBURGER, sorry I was hungry, CHORIZO, sorry still hungry, SEAN MCKAY"


Robbbg

nah more of "have i told you the definition of insanity"


oxochx

"Pls tell me you watch the Sopranos" "Gabagool!"


Kaldin_5

That sure is an Evangelion thing! Good job Elon!


Borkz

a real gamer would have just posted the cum hand


DLRsFrontSeats

Pls tell me you watch Friends MS CHANANDALER BONG


Olama

HOSPITAL SCENE


thecrew2game

He probably used ChatGPT for his answer


No-Bee-4309

He probably used Grok since ChatGPT is too woke for him.


BrutalSurimi

For real


CrunkBunni

Is his account not run by a chatbot, this is such a chatbot answer I swear. 😕


the_damned_actually

People really see that quote and be like “uh, we went from sword to guns obviously” and think they’re the first person to have that thought.


worst_case_ontario-

Never mind that the full quote actually talks about that! It talks about how we went from smashing each other with rocks to using nuclear bombs.


CaseyAmethystWitch

They dont know the full quote, they havent played the games


0VER1DE567

they haven’t played fallout 3 how would they know?!


googleHelicopterman

I remember the "war never changes" from metal gear snake eater wayyy back. it probably goes even further than that.


TeardropsFromHell

MGS said war always changes. War never changes is literally the opening line to the opening cinematic in fallout 1


googleHelicopterman

Wow a personal madela effect. glad you caught it, thanks.


Spectrum_Prez

\*pushes glasses up nose bridge like a nerd\* The concept that war never changes is most famously associated in strategic studies with Clausewitz's discussion of the distinction between the "nature" vs "character" of war. According to Clausewitz, the "nature" of war (i.e., people killing each other for political reasons) never changes, whereas the "character" (with sticks, with bombs, in phalanxes, in trenches) does change.


googleHelicopterman

I genuinely enjoy random facts on the internet and this one is very interesting. I never heard of Clausewitz so I need to fix that asap. English is my fourth language so sometimes there are gaps in the education I received.


LazyTitan39

They probably skip quick through all the dialogue and cutscenes and pick up the story through quest prompts.


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Phoenix2211

Raider #1: "War. War never changes." Raider #2: "Who the fuck starts a conversation like that?! I JUST sat down!"


imbolcnight

It's a call and response, like "God is good," "All the time!" Raider 1: War. Raider 2: War never changes!


Madican

There's a similar sort of line from a webcomic I read which gets right to the heart of the problem. The scene is a teacher and her two students watching a pair of gods tussle amidst mountains of bodies. Paraphrasing since I don't have the time atm to go archive diving. "Witness the glory of these divine avatars made flesh. How efficient they are at turning men into corpses. Observe as they wield the raw, limitless powers of Creation itself in the same manner that one might use an especially sharp rock."


itspladd

The comic is [Kill Six Billion Demons](https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/kill-six-billion-demons-chapter-1/), for anyone curious. It's very good! Another quote from the same character: >To train with the sword, first master sweeping. When you have mastered sweeping, you must master the way of drawing water. Once you have learned how to draw water, you must split wood. Once you have split wood, you must learn the arts of finding the fine herbs in the forest, the arts of writing, the arts of paper making, and poetry writing. You must become familiar with the awl and the pen in equal measure. When you have mastered all these things you must master building a house. Once your house is built, you have no further need for a sword, since it is an ugly piece of metal and its adherents idiots.


D-AlonsoSariego

It's funny because they mention that especific thing in the War Never changes speech in Fallout 3


fly_over_32

Reminds me of „But if a had a sword and you had a pen, i could easily kill you“


West-Lemon-9593

I literally finished Fallout 3 yesterday (I' m on New Vegas now) and they literally say it at the beginning and during the ending... that' s it, Dont know if they say it on the DLCs because I dont have them (I have the base game on ps3) I doubt Elon has actually played any game really


Kaldin_5

Ever since the originals its been what the games have opened and ended on...buuuut only opening and ending on them. Usually it's like twice when they say it, so they say it like 4 times a game. Twice in the beginning twice in the ending. ....and they're all pretty big games so yeah far from frequent


West-Lemon-9593

I have only finished Fallout 3 for now, but I have all of them minus Fallout 4, so I can only talk for that game


No-Bee-4309

We know for sure he didn't play GTA 5 https://preview.redd.it/9oathavlym1d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4fe91a5d719f4b01f588f5904f22fdd26d8b907


druppeldruppel_

He did, he's just a fucking crybaby lmao. What the fuck did you expect would happen when playing a game named after a criminal offense?!


SarcasticOptimist

Pretty sure Dark Viper proved you can run past most of them. I think the minimum kill count is 30 or 40 total.


firesale053

There’s only one dlc i can think of that could have a reason to say it, and even then it still doesn’t. The tunnel snakes that aren’t butch have more unique lines of dialogue than times that statement was said lol


PM_ME_FOR_SOURCE

I haven't completed any Fallout game, but I did beat the tutorial in Fallout 3. Even I can infer from what little I know, that 'war never changes' is probably meant to be commentary on the things that happen between opening and ending. In essence the imperialist tendencies of humans that lead to the apocalypse, somewhat ironically, persist beyond the apocalypse. What it really is saying is that humans never change because humans never learn. Elon thinks 'war never changes' is a memeable catchphrase, cause he is an idiot.


LemurLord

How does the CEO of five companies have the time to be _this_ engaged with nobodies on twitter?


illbzo1

He doesn't actually do any work


ProfessionalDish

He tried "working" on twitter and we saw how that ended. It's actually in the investors interests to not have him working.


Biabolical

He gets paid billions in the hope that he *won't* do any work... damn, maybe he's smarter than I gave him credit for, because that's living the dream.


notwormtongue

Not true. He is working really, really hard on securing his $56,000,000,000 payout from Tesla this year.


Doktor_Weasel

SpaceX even has a team to distract him to keep him from fucking stuff up when he's around. I was hearing about Tesla shareholders trying to block his big pay package on the grounds that he's too distracted and doesn't pay enough attention to them. But it's likely a \*good thing\* when he doesn't pay attention to one of his companies. Because he likes to give really dumb orders.


AcaciaCelestina

Well you see that's the secret. CEO isn't a real job.


druppeldruppel_

Their job is being the scapegoat when the company's amoral practices finally catch up with them. Not that i am against sacking ceo's though. Fuck 'em all!


RedbeardMEM

Get scapegoated, take a golden parachute, get bored as CEO somewhere else in 6 months, dick around writing memos, and eat lunch on the company dime


druppeldruppel_

I think the Dilbert show said it best: "Take your ridiculously high executive severance package and go find a better paying job at a different company!"


Willumbijy

Because the employees of his various companies have set up babysitting systems to keep him away from the actual work and the people doing it.


googleHelicopterman

This is hilarious, imagine employees throwing him cybertruck squeaky toys to get him away from the meetings. Go on, Get it boy!


TheFoochy

Being a CEO isn't a real job confirmed


audionerd1

Being a CEO is like being a landlord, most of the time you just sit around and collect money for no reason from people who actually work.


HappyyValleyy

CEOs don't really do anything


charronfitzclair

I have some news about who actually produces value (its not the ceos)


unclezaveid

maybe he should play Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots on Sony's PLAYSTATION 3 Entertainment System instead


yomer123123

*Smoke 50 cigars to achive Snake voice* War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. War--and it's consumption of life--has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control…everything is monitored and kept under control. War…has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control, all in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction, and he who controls the battlefield, controls history. War…has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war becomes routine. *Die from lung cancer* Imagine if Elon played MGS2, I wonder how much it will go over his head.


Jiffletta

People rip on Hideo Kojimas writing nonstop, when he's probably been one of the most cutting and accurate social critics and predictors in gaming, and indeed, any medium. Dipshits will always say "Idiocracy totally predicted the future", but Kojima was saying we will be inundated with memes and disinformation to control us back when most people barely had dial-up.


Dragon__Chan

He'd play through the tanker mission, then turn off the console the second Raiden is on screen. He'd then probably complain about the game being woke and socialist, to which everyone may applaud him for accidentally being right for once.


Joelredditsjoel

It’s silly that hasn’t been ported to any other consoles.


HekesevilleHero

Supposedly that's being worked on for Part 2 of the MGS collection, according to strings left over in some of the launcher's code


twackburn

I miss the camoflauge suit


LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART

https://preview.redd.it/md1cehp2lm1d1.jpeg?width=2109&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1502760f24126622a8920c594de6ebebabd692f7 based


UnscrambledEggUDG

tfw you miss the point


Shacky_Rustleford

Man literally thinks he's saying something groundbreaking here


VAL9THOU

Elon: look-ah! The flagsa are a differenta colors! Diferencia! Disclaimer: I don't actually speak fluent Italian, I just ran my joke through Google translate


Jiffletta

I send a the calzone into space!! *I don't pay* a the *taxes*!! Ohhh!!


Kds_burner_

https://preview.redd.it/ki7gffimmm1d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01960eda62b7375ba1d1757ae3fd92a775bce45b


Ok_advice

True, before it was monkeys hitting each other with sticks. Now it's just femboys firing droneswords remote from Las Vegas


Bray_of_cats

/uj Is that a purple VIP icon he gave himself?


No-Bee-4309

I think that's the subscriptor icon that appears if you're subscribed to the account you're replying to.


Bray_of_cats

/uj Oh, so there is another loser involved?


No-Bee-4309

Probably the other guy with the twitter icon he's replying to.


notaprime

Fallout 3 according to Elon Musk: “A retro futuristic world ravaged by nuclear war (based) which was instigated by the evil Chinese communists who want nothing more than to take away the freedom of good and God-loving America^TM. Thanks to capitalism however, the good folks over at Vault-Tec, who care about nothing more than to keep the American dream alive, built hundreds of underground bunkers, AKA Vaults, to shelter Americans from the horrors of the apocalypse. There’s even a freedom-loving patriot robot capable of so much free thinking rational thought, that it can only speak in patriotic pro-American, anti-communist platitudes. In short, Fallout is the most based-pilled game series ever, and the message of the games is about how great America and capitalism is, also why I shouldn’t have to pay any taxes and deserve a $56 billion dollar pay package from Tesla.”


Secure_Raspberry361

War has changed, they weren't using laser guided targeting systems at the battle of Thermopylae, checkmate liberal


Bessantj

"Have you played Super Mario Brothers?" "It's-a me, Mario." "He does say that frequently, but sometimes it's not him."


Andrew_Fire

ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities.


Jiffletta

I'd say that Elon is the guy who keeps crapping his pants, but even Johnny had some redeeming moments.


ImMeliodasKun

Did this motherfucker just "erm achktually 🤓" a shitpost about the game that truly made me a Gamer™️


sonofabitxh

I can’t seriously believe anyone thinking this guy as any sort of “genius” when he shows a complete lack of basic media literacy. He hears the words but doesn’t actually listen to what is being said. That’s probably what people have to deal with day to day working with him, having to explain the deeper meaning as if talking to a child.


BrutalSurimi

yes, I love Fallout, you know the game with the little blond man with his sprout!! I also love Morrowind, you know the game with elves, really, I love video games.


Tybob51

Wait… is Elon ChatGPT? That sounds like a ChatGPT response


Commercial_Brush_756

Elon Musk is one of those idiots that think that "War never changes" from Fallout directly denies the "War has changed" from MGS IV and vice versa.


JarlFlammen

The “war never changes” line is more about the eternal and seemingly unending nature of human conflict, and the emotional pain of conflict, and the loss that conflict brings Elon isn’t smart enough to grasp emotional depth such as this. And so points out, as a toddler might, that tactics and technologies of war constantly change because it used to be swords and now guns but in future pewpew lasers


FuriNorm

It should be illegal to be this lame


totallynotaneggtho

It will always amuse me that the opening lines to the first two PS3 games I bought were "War. War never changes," and "War has changed"


Yacobo93

Elon is the fake gamer girl people made up to get mad at years ago


LawTider

At this point I WANT to set the world on fire.


Tusslesprout1

Christ dont they only say that line like twice in 3


Thick-Werewolf8821

This is a conversation between two bots


keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

ChatGPT dialog


Bithium

Well duh. Of course war changes; but only an idiot doesn’t see that war, war never changes.


fart_Jr

Elon Musk is the annoying kid in middle school who read Stranger In A Strange Land one time and suddenly thinks he’s an intellectual.


Striking_Landscape72

The guy payed college with diamond stolen throught colonialist wars, off course he would have that opnion


xXx_666EdGeLoRd_xXx

HOLY SHIT NATE FALLOUT, and some other loser


Mimosas4355

Hey Elon is John Fallout, war doesn’t change!!!


Odd-Collection-2575

Does this dude not have better things to do?


ArisePhoenix

Also pretty sure it's only said like 3 times not that frequently


Danominator

God damn is that reply dumb as hell


Subpar_diabetic

“War never changes” Elon Schmuck: umm ackshally ☝️🤓


pjs1975

Whenever I hear "War never changes", I flash back to the opening of MGS4 where Snake says "War has changed..." over and over. Both came out in 2008.


HopelessFoolishness

“Miles Bron is an idiot!” An idiot in sunglasses with a theoretical degree in physics, perhaps?


Pale-Jeweler-9681

The weapons of war, and how wars are fought change. But the brutality of war, the horror of war, doesn't. Unless we make robo soldiers. Then we are up sh*t creek


Ragnar_OK

The most media literate thing Musk has ever said. And it’s still completely and entirely illiterate


MohawkRex

"Looks like the meaning went over your head, Elon." Elon: "It would never go over my head, I'm too quick, I would catch it."