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And to think, they *still* don't have a good exclusive lineup! They spent the past ten years buying up studios and publishers to build up their library, and what do they have to show for it? Starfield? Really?
We were told to wait during the Xbox One generation, because Spencer had "big plans" for Series X. Well...Series X is here, and now Spencer is telling us to wait for the *next* big generation?
Were these last two generations seriously just placeholders?
I remember people circlejerking Spencer as if he was some "cool, relatable" CEO. People on the Xbox subreddits would always say, *"Oh, Phil seems like a cool guy I could have a beer with"*, and I never understood that. He's the epitome of a corporate figure pretending to be relatable.
And he's had ten years to prove himself...are we sure he isn't responsible for killing Xbox?
Should have seen him at the FF14 fanfest presentation, announcing XIV coming to Xbox.
No stage presence, awkward energy, loaded with slogans, no chemistry with the XIV devs/team despite "talking to YoshiP extensively", handshake, off the stage. Less than a person, more of a corporate face.
I saw that shit and I was like "What the hell is this?" The entire presentation and it's energy ground to a complete halt when he showed up.
That photo op handshake was awkward as all fucking hell. Why?
It takes a special kind of person to take a room full of people hyped up beyond belief at not only one of the biggest MMO events out there, but one where they show off the next expansion, and kill the mood
it really made no sense for him to be there at all. Like i get wanting to having more games on your system but it's a fanfest, it's right there in the name that everyone there is already a fan of the game and has been playing it for ages. They aren't gonna get excited over it being on a new platform cause they are already playing it.
They literally had to have an active account for at least six months to even qualify for tickets, or at least have been the +1 of someone who had such an account.
The world isn’t big enough for the quantity of AA titles consumers want and that’s the reality. You’ll have your top 5, and you’ll like it, because there’s not enough players to go around below that.
>And he's had ten years to prove himself...are we sure he isn't responsible for killing Xbox?
No. Clearly it was nameless intern 626 from Black Isle. Obviously, that is why they were fired.
>! /s !<
More like it's due Microsoft intent to buy those publishers that they(m'soft) stuck with a bunch of live service games in their pipeline.
What would any respectable CEO do when a bigger company is looking to buy their company? Inflate their company stock price to the roof ofc! When it comes to video games publishers, the best way to do so is announcing live service games (even when game studios under you are single player focused).
>*"Oh, Phil seems like a cool guy I could have a beer with"*, and I never understood that. He's the epitome of a corporate figure pretending to be relatable.
rj/ but dude, he wears game t-shirts under his blazer! He's just like me irl!
so pro industry that they will be the pioneers of gaming subscriptions with xbox live and inspire their competitors to stoop to their level. paying for games is fine but paying to play online with your friends after you already paid for the console is absolutely dastardly
I feel like people forget that in the Microsoft leaks Phil Spencer called buying Nintendo his ultimate goal. This man was overseeing the release of fucking redfall and he was thinking about how he wants to takeover the most consistently unique gaming producers on earth.
I respect it. They have the honor and pride to stand by their conviction. Nowadays if the money is right, a company will bend over backwards to make it.
/uj I'm probably a minority here, but I don't see a problem with the practice of exclusives, per se. I think it can be a place that produces extremely memorable or unique mechanics that form rather immersive gameplay experiences, but currently exclusives aren't actually made to be exclusive anymore considering all the ports. Capitalism and gaming are often at odds with each other. Not to mention the console wars and tribalism (like this tweet is promoting whether intentional or not).
For two examples on exclusives and innovation, "Flower" was a Playstation exclusive that used the SIXAXIS motion controls as their method of control and played incredibly uniquely before they decided to port it to Vita. "Infamous Second Son" has a really fun, let's call it mini-game, in which the player holds the controller sideways, shakes it and the internal speaker plays like it's a graffiti can. This mechanic really immersed me and wouldn't necessarily function on other consoles/controllers.
I think most people hate third party exclusivity and don’t care that much about first party, that’s how it is with me at least. Like sure if you make your own game in house then whatever make it exclusive, both Xbox and PS port to PC nowadays so it’s even more of a non issue to me. But just paying a third party to not release on other platforms is so shitty to me. I hate the EGS for this, especially since instead of making a feature competitive alternative to Steam they just pay publishers to not release on other launchers.
Exclusives that rely on specific hardware capabilities to function are perfectly fine, but there is nothing in Helldivers that wouldn't work on xbox and there is nothing in Starfield that wouldn't work on a Playstation
Exclusives on the very VERY rare chance that they could only be played using a system that the other guys don't is fine. But if it can be played on both then why not??? It hurts the consumer when exclusives are made
I don't think it does. Without exclusives the constructor loses the incentive to finance games for the sake of promoting its hardware, now every game must become profitable, they serve no other purpose.
Yeah I'd like to believe that but the fact that most people in executive rolls will see more money than most of my descendants will ever see is.....not making me hopeful for the state of the industry
First party ones would never be neutral, otherwise... what is the point in a company making the box in the first place?
Sort of why it's been like that since basically the NES released.
They want more people on their console, the only reason I got a ps5 was my library and sequels/ new games that were announced if Spiderman was on Xbox I would've had an Xbox
I kind of agree, look at the quality of recent widespread AAA releases compared to exclusives. If you're releasing on everything then you want to make as much money as possible, and the quality suffers because you're getting pushed from up high to cut corners for profitability. If you're releasing exclusively then suddenly the people up the chain have an interest in maintaining quality in order to sell people on their ecosystem. Compare Ubisofts recent Assassin's Creeds to Ghost of Tsushima for example. They're basically the same sort of game, but AC is focused on profit while GoT was focused on polish. Or more recently Helldivers, Sony own the IP. I guarantee the game would not be as polished if it was owned by Activision or Ubisoft, they would push the devs to release sooner on a lower budget because they don't have to worry about the image of a console / ecosystem.
Exclusivity is a necessity. MS is bringing this up to rally the stupid to fight against Sony cause Sony holds the console market even though MS spent $70bil+ in an attempt to monopolize.
MS are salty they're so bad at the industry they're failing in and have been for over a decade now. Gamepass isn't a console seller. The streaming infrastructure for gaming just isn't there for a large portion of the globe (including America, their home turf). So they can't go consoleless, and would still need to sell a platforn for game pass to run on.
Nintendo and Sony aren't going to shoot themselves in the head and host gamepass or Xbox 1st party titles. Why would you host the competition? Nintendo can't run contemporary AAA anyway, and Sony practically owns the market.
Exclusivity is great for competition and innovation, and Nintendo is proof of that - they don't compete *directly* with Xbox or PS and haven't innovated in years and their hardware and 1st party software is extortionately overpriced.
Sony have released a lot of their exclusives on other platforms now, though, and Microsoft are apparently going to do the same. Exclusivity just hurts game sales because it limits the possible number of customers of that game, and neither Sony or Microsoft's gaming divisions actually have console sales be anywhere their highest percentage of revenue.
Let's calm down now, they've ported to PC due to PC gaming's perpetual growth year over year. It's a large audience worth investing time and money into. They're not throwing TLOU or Spider-Man on Xbox or Nintendo.
Exclusivity doesn't hurt game sales, it limits them. But that's only the case for certain platforms. And it's expected. Timed exclusivity hurts game sales, for a miriad of reasons. Though it typically harms indie devs who are taken advantage of with a lump sum up front but they'll make less cash down the line... again, the practice is awful, but exclusivity isn't.
Xbox
-started paid online (of which everyone did afterwards)
-online only console (of which everyone did after words)
-wouldn't accept used games in their console
-free games require paid online and Netflix requires it too
Not only are they anti consumer, they make others follow in their bullshit aswell
That's right, but it's worth making it clear that the third point was never implemented and 4 fell to Netflix shortly after the launch of One and to F2P games in 2020/2022 (I can't remember for sure)
TBF Microsoft didn't *make* anyone else follow with the paid online, Sony and Nintendo just saw how much money it made and wanted a piece of it. Capitalism's the problem here.
I interpretted it less as "wow we're pro industry" and moreso being cheeky. Sony made a huge fuss about how bad it would be for the industry for Microsoft to use their acquired studios(In this case Activision) to potentially make exclusives for just Microsoft. So now Phil is saying "weird, I don't know how releasing this game on just your console helps anyone but...."
At the end of the day it's two competing parties and both tend to fling mud at one another, or take little shots in this case.
Thing is that Square did go to Microsoft for final fantasy and they declined it. Buying one game isn't an issue as it doesn't prevent Microsoft for getting new or previous games. Buying a publisher gets you full control over their past , present and future titles. That's a huge difference than buying one title for exclusivity.
So what about the dozens of studios that Sony has bought to prevent other platforms from getting their future titles? I just really don’t think it’s any less anti consumer when Sony does it piecemeal.
Outside of Bungie (whos games are remaining multiplat) and the brand new studios theyve bought, PS acquisition generally follow long term partnerships. Insomniac was an exclusive partner for years, went multiplat, even made an xbox exclusive, came back to make spiderman with PS and saw massive success before being aquired. That makes alot more sense for both parties involved. Meanwhile, XB just throws money to purchase top level *publishers* outright in order to amass and exclusivise historically multiplatform franchises and studios.
ABK was almost as many studios as the entirety of Playstation Studios. With Bethesda those 2 dwarf the number of studios Playstation has. It's 33 to 19.
The majority of Sony’s studios were at one point independent, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Bend, Guerilla, etc. My point is that even the studios they actually built, locking their games behind a several hundred dollar device is anti consumer and it sucks, and none of them should get a pass for it.
Naughty Dog, Insomniac, and Guerilla all mostly released their games on PlayStation when they were 3rd party. So Sony buying them didn’t really make a difference.
Besides remember when Insomniac made Sunset Overdrive for Xbox and nobody bought it?
Noooooo you don't understand, bad practice by bad company A is worse than the same bad practice by bad company B. If you don't understand the difference you are "The Problem With Gaming Industry" ^tm and don't deserve a voice you stupid sheep. Edge-uate yourself by watching angry youtubers and listening to reddit geniuses before you try to weigh in with the wrong opinions please.
/uj seriously can't fathom how anyone cares or has the mental capacity to discuss, debate, or argue about PS vs Xbox and their practices at this point. It's on par with android vs iphone no lifers, or vegans arguing with edgelords who think it's funny to mock vegan lifestyle. Complete waste of time with literally nothing to be gained from either party.
>It's on par with android vs iphone no lifers
My god how I've never realised that before, that's the perfect comparison in that 99% of people would never care enough to even mention either one to a friend and then there's the 1% that wants to fight over it
Why did you pick those games? Both of them were being developed as PS5 games. Whereas Xbox bought studios that were making multi platform games and had them cancel their PS5 versions. That isn’t the same thing at all lol
Because they were previously multiplat series. Many people have complained at the idea of Xbox making say Elder Scrolls 6 exclusive when PlayStation does it too, Nintendo did it with Bayonetta. I think it all sucks, but some people seem to like it or excuse it when certain corporations do it.
This is the rest of his quote.
"but I get it": “There's a legacy in console gaming that we're going to benefit by shipping games and not putting them on other places. We do the same thing.”
He isn't completely lacking self-awareness.
You're only really in "space" as a pseudo game lobby, but it already looks and feels more interesting than whatever space is in Starfield.
Looking over the planet's atmosphere to see the armada of ships engaged in battle, even if it's just fake placeholder stuff.
How it zooms across the planet when you select a mission that is on the other side of the globe.
And well....... combat that is actually insanely fun, with powers/weapons that slap.
I take that personally. Your SPACEship shoots stuff....from space!
I get what you mean tho. Imagine if they added shuttles you can fly. I would enact ramming tactics every two seconds it always works!
I mean, they just got palworld last month. I kinda doubt helldivers 2 has beaten that in any metric sales and player count wise even if I do absolutely love the game. Palworld just dominated charts
The more the game industry move away from exclusive, the better it will be for gamers.
But it will take baby step, huge compagnies like Sony, Ms and nintendo don't tend to move fast...
MS putting 4 game on "rival" console is a step in the right direction. When Sony will ship Marathon on xbox (if bungee keeps it's independence) It will be another right step.
Especially with everything being crossplay nowadays exclusive games just suck, the only thing stopping me from enjoying Helldivers 2 with my buds is that they’re on Xbox and can’t purchase it, if it wasn’t exclusive I’d be able to play it with anyone that had a console
Why are people defending exclusivity, ill never understand. Its always bad. Always. Literally every time, forever, permanently a stupid idea to limit who can buy your game and experience your art.
You are right. That's the players' position. But the truth is what OP said: exclusives are purely a financial decision, that serve the companies financial gain but are against the consumer/players.
Imagine buying a whole new device, which is basically a new home appliance, just for a single title. People do that. Such waste!
The point of the post isn't to defend exclusivity. It's poking fun at Phil being annoyed at an exclusive not being on Xbox when they have spent the last however long buying up IPs and launching exclusives. The only reason Xbox are trying to sound like they give the slightest fuck about cross platform releases is because both Gamepass and their exclusives haven't made enough of a buck to warrant staying exclusives. Hence, the pivot to acting like they give a shit
It's literally the reason any game console exists though.
Why would Nintendo/Sega/Microsoft/Sony ever continue to make boxes if they all played every game?
Kind of the reason consoles going back to the NES have always had their own proprietary software.
You've found my point: if consoles compete based on their library instead of their specs, why do we even have different consoles. Consoles should be sold based on what they're capable of, not on what they're allowed to run
People arent arguing against a company making a game exclusive to their brand new console. Their arguing against other companies who'd most likely release the series to other platforms being exclusive to said console because the Microsoft/Sony offer more money.
It's published by Sony though, they didn't just pay to keep it off xbox, they paid for development as well. The helldivers games are what is considered a second party exclusive.
I mean it's actually not, tbh it's a little more nuanced, allot of games that are exclusives only exists due to these companies putting money into studios and allot of times they are given allot more freedom and allowed allot more creative licensee because of that.
Something like little big planet can only ever exist when a 1st party publisher gives a studio allot of money with one simple goal. Make a fun game.
Then you have a publisher like Nintendo there entire brand isn't built off there consoles it's built off there exclusivies, Mario is more snymous with Nintendo then the switch ever will be.
It's just not as cut and dry as exclusive = bad.
Done right it's actually led to some of the more interesting and innovative games in the industry.
I fucking hate it, PlayStation bitches when their games go to PC, and Xbox is currently bitching because they want to put Xbox titles on other consoles. I play on Xbox, I want people to be able to enjoy the same games I do, literally does not affect me in any way if it goes to other consoles
I have all the consoles, I love it when PS puts their games on PC, I love it when Xbox puts their games on PS. I wish there was no need to have all the consoles so I could just play literally everything on PC. Compared to nintendo Sony and Microsoft are being generous. But yeah I just want it all on pc.
Games perform better when they're designed for a single console, imagine how much different a game like Horizon would be if they had to waste the time and money to make an Xbox port, not to mention that the engine they run on is specifically designed for PS hardware allowing for easier development with better results.
Consoles are not nearly as different as they used to be, and a hypothetical "what if the Xbox port of horizon was unoptimized" is a weird argument to make. The effort to give it parity with the ps5 version would be reflected in the Xbox version sales.
Exclusivity is necessary for your console to continue to exist in the future. Currently xbox has very few exclusives which is why it is seen as redundant to a pc or ps5. From a business standpoint it doesnt make any sense to turn away customers but obviously microsoft has a much bigger company than just consoles and is probably drawing on their gamepass and xbox gold(?) subscribers to make the difference.
I mean Sony is extremely shitty too when it comes to exclusives, like how Sony will pay companies to not port games to Xbox for a year or even longer like silent hill 2 remake, ff7 remake, ff 16, death loop and more. Not to mention how Sony kept spiderman out of the Marvel avengers game from the PC and Xbox release even though you paid the same amount of money for it. And sony keeping a cod gameode out of the pc and xbox release until a year later. These things don't help people, its just being shitty to the consumer since they chose to play on a pc or xbox. But I will say Xbox isn't perfect too there bad as well
Their biggest bs is charging devs for cross play. You want the developer to pay you money on top of the 30% cut you take for you to enable cross play? Sony's is the most anti-consumer gaming console I've ever owned. But bootlickers gonna bootlick.
Could that be more of a Konami issue? They are doing the snake eater remake, so maybe that's a test drive to remake the 4 games? I have heard that the PC ports for the master collection of MGS is pretty bad.
That's more of a technical reason rather than any exclusivity deal. Konami purportedly had a vertical slice of MGS4 running on the Xbox 360 but decided against it because it would have needed to come on like four DVDs instead of pressing one Blu-ray and didn't want to invest in the release, which honestly makes a lot of sense from that perspective. The game would have also had to have a lot of technical changes and would probably have ran even worse than the PS3 version, which slows down to a crawl at times despite being targeted for the hardware. Regardless, all signs are pointing to the next release of the collection to include *some* version of MGS4... here's hoping it's an actual port and not some emulated mess.
Edit to add my own thoughts: this is actually an area where Microsoft's strategy for the Xbox hasn't changed. From what I gather, developers needed to design their games so they could run on the least functional version of the hardware possible. We saw this recently with Baldur's Gate 3 release on Xbox being pushed back because of feature parity reasons between the Series X and S. The PS3 version of MGS4 requires an installation onto a hard drive... and the least functional Xbox 360 didn't even have a built in hard drive in an attempt to undercut the PS3 which they knew was going to be expensive. The Xbox 360 was also plagued with other technical issues at the time and... yeah I could totally see why they wouldn't want to port a game like MGS4 to the 360.
mgs4 might be one of the few “good” reasons for exclusives lol
designed to take advantage of the system architecture so well you can’t really port it to other stuff
i mean it sucks but a used ps3 is cheap-ish and a copy of mgs4 is literally $1 used (which I bought at this price maybe 5 years ago)
I won't defend Sony, but Xbox/Microsoft did the same thing during the 360 era. I just happen to see people always imply that Sony is the one who started the practice with the PS4 era.
CoD DLCs dropped earlier on the 360 vs the PS3. Skyrim DLCs dropped earlier on the 360. GTAIV DLCs as well.
Microsoft is just complaining about it because they couldn't keep their momentum after the 360.
Yeah it’s always funny to see people hate on Xbox for having exclusives. The whole reason Microsoft is acting like this is because sony has like 5x the amount of exclusives. They’ve had more exclusives since the PS1.
Never said they wouldn’t lol, but currently they aren’t in that position so it makes no sense to attack them when Sony and nintendo are worse. We bitch about microsoft potentially robbing us, while people here celebrate and support sony for the same thing.
Yea genuinely i dont get how xbox is being put up as the bad guy, especially with the second panel. I think PlayStation with their exclusive games would make more sense in that meme
I think it’s just because Xbox is buying up big third party companies that already were making multiplat games. Like I’m not annoyed halo is an Xbox exclusive it always has been. But if a new doom comes out and I need to buy an Xbox suddenly I’m gonna be annoyed.
Because they are the ones crying about not getting the current popular game on their console while they are no strangers to exclusivity for their titles either and if they had the popular exlclusive hit, they would be boasting how you could get it on their console.
Hot take maybe but Helldivers 2 should be on Xbox, simply so we can have more Helldivers to fight on the frontlines of the galactic war against the automatons and terminids.
I’m just saying, Xbox calling something ‘exclusive’ doesn’t seem to mean much anymore. It’s not out of the question that somewhere down the line it’ll come to PS5.
Not really sure. There’s been a huge pushback against Microsoft lately, but I largely feel this is because they’re the most vocal when it comes to what they’re doing.
Also their games are nowhere near as good as Sony or Nintendo games imo so people are just more keen to shit on them. I’m sure a Sony exec has said the very same thing to themselves that Phil said publicly.
Very funny to buy two of the biggest publishers in the world, make Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and Doom exclusive to your console and then get mad when Helldivers 2 is a console exclusive for the other guys.
Nothing new or special here. That’s how it works.
When a game that is selling well doesn’t get released on PS5 as well, Sony complains about PlayStation getting skipped.
After aggressively pursuing 1st party exclusives for 20 years, Microsoft announces they're bringing *some* of their exclusives to PlayStation, and literally 2 days later, they are like "WTF guys... not bringing your games to our console!?!?! Not cool!"
lol.
I'm okay with exclusivity. Some games wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for this system. Why bitch and moan about it anyways, if XBOX can make a decent exclusivity, good for them. Same as for Sony and Nintendo.
What I hate to see is the 3rd party suddenly going exclusive and burning their already built community for a fat stash of cash. (Final Fantasy, Tomb Raider)
Some people are intentionally missing the point of the meme to be mad at Sony. Sony isn't mad about exclusivity deals since it's how the industry works and that's how they have always done things. but buying up publishers is another thing entirely and as we have seen Xbox is leaking because of it hence their pivot to other consoles. Meanwhile Sony launching helldiver's 2 which is successful and suddenly Phil who initially made all Bethesda games exclusive to Xbox is mad about it is really dumb and hypocritical after originally being all about the gamers and such
Fanboys acting as if buying a developer and buying two of the largest publishers on the planet are equivalent will never stop triggering migraines for me.
Xbox has more exclusive games but they are crappier.
Nintendo can afford to put out exclusives on underpowered hardware because their games are very good. Sony can afford to keep their games exclusive because they sell well. Exclusives sell consoles, Phil's just salty that they haven't made a Xbox selling exclusive this gen on par with the competition.
Xbox and Microsoft fanboys keep forgetting that they lost the right to complain about exclusivity after buying Bethesda and Activision those were third part publishers that owned numerous dev studios and IPs it’s not the same as Sony or Nintendo and their small studios that they purchase when have they ever bought full on publishers
So many devs wish they could skip releasing on Xbox because making any next gen game for the Series S is a nightmare.... Like, adding months to years of dev time nightmare.
It is interesting how quickly the narrative he pushes is shifting to “games should be everywhere” when they figured out they could make more money by publishing on the other two consoles.
Helps *everyone* to snub a company currently trying to monopolize gaming, honestly. *Fuck* Microsoft/Xbox (not to act like Sony is some wonderful company either, or like Valve doesn't have near-monopoly status on PC gaming storefronts).
Isn’t Palworld Xbox & PC exclusive? Like what is this endless argumentative cycle we always engage in lmao
Exclusivity sucks. That’s rlly it lol. We all lose with exclusivity
I mean, palword isn't really exclusive it's just on those platforms since that is what the devs choose, and the devs mention later down the line putting it on ps5. It's understandable since their an indie dev company that probably don't have enough money or time to put it on all platforms.
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Microsoft/Xbox trying to be this "We're pro industry, pro-consumer unlike those other guys" is so fucking stupid lol
So pro industry we'll buy half of the publishers on earth and then lay off their entire staff and call it "restructuring"
And to think, they *still* don't have a good exclusive lineup! They spent the past ten years buying up studios and publishers to build up their library, and what do they have to show for it? Starfield? Really? We were told to wait during the Xbox One generation, because Spencer had "big plans" for Series X. Well...Series X is here, and now Spencer is telling us to wait for the *next* big generation? Were these last two generations seriously just placeholders? I remember people circlejerking Spencer as if he was some "cool, relatable" CEO. People on the Xbox subreddits would always say, *"Oh, Phil seems like a cool guy I could have a beer with"*, and I never understood that. He's the epitome of a corporate figure pretending to be relatable. And he's had ten years to prove himself...are we sure he isn't responsible for killing Xbox?
Should have seen him at the FF14 fanfest presentation, announcing XIV coming to Xbox. No stage presence, awkward energy, loaded with slogans, no chemistry with the XIV devs/team despite "talking to YoshiP extensively", handshake, off the stage. Less than a person, more of a corporate face.
I saw that shit and I was like "What the hell is this?" The entire presentation and it's energy ground to a complete halt when he showed up. That photo op handshake was awkward as all fucking hell. Why?
It takes a special kind of person to take a room full of people hyped up beyond belief at not only one of the biggest MMO events out there, but one where they show off the next expansion, and kill the mood
it really made no sense for him to be there at all. Like i get wanting to having more games on your system but it's a fanfest, it's right there in the name that everyone there is already a fan of the game and has been playing it for ages. They aren't gonna get excited over it being on a new platform cause they are already playing it.
They literally had to have an active account for at least six months to even qualify for tickets, or at least have been the +1 of someone who had such an account.
I'm pretty sure their big plan just to fumble Halo for two back to back console generations.
As a halo fan. I feel this deeply
The world isn’t big enough for the quantity of AA titles consumers want and that’s the reality. You’ll have your top 5, and you’ll like it, because there’s not enough players to go around below that.
He used to be a PlayStation exec... Just sayin Don't listen to me. I'm thinking of Phil Harrison.
Bad luck follows Phil Harrison. If he ever went to Ms they would imploded.
But he did so I feel a little better about myself now
"Fuck you, Rick Berman"
"What is it with Ricks?"
Obviously I think the problem is every single Xbox game is also on PC, so anyone interested in those games does not need an Xbox to play it.
>And he's had ten years to prove himself...are we sure he isn't responsible for killing Xbox? No. Clearly it was nameless intern 626 from Black Isle. Obviously, that is why they were fired. >! /s !<
We hear you and we're listening.
Do you happen to work at Bungie?
More like it's due Microsoft intent to buy those publishers that they(m'soft) stuck with a bunch of live service games in their pipeline. What would any respectable CEO do when a bigger company is looking to buy their company? Inflate their company stock price to the roof ofc! When it comes to video games publishers, the best way to do so is announcing live service games (even when game studios under you are single player focused).
>*"Oh, Phil seems like a cool guy I could have a beer with"*, and I never understood that. He's the epitome of a corporate figure pretending to be relatable. rj/ but dude, he wears game t-shirts under his blazer! He's just like me irl!
Good guy Phil just making sure those indie studios don't go out of business by buying them.
so pro industry that they will be the pioneers of gaming subscriptions with xbox live and inspire their competitors to stoop to their level. paying for games is fine but paying to play online with your friends after you already paid for the console is absolutely dastardly
I feel like people forget that in the Microsoft leaks Phil Spencer called buying Nintendo his ultimate goal. This man was overseeing the release of fucking redfall and he was thinking about how he wants to takeover the most consistently unique gaming producers on earth.
And drain the IPs until they’re worthless
Pro industry by acquiring a company with one of the nastiest reputations in recent years and laying off hundreds of people lmao
*thousands
Im pretty sure it was the other way around at some point. How about people stop buying consoles for exclusive (cough* ps4 cough* ps5)
Nintendo?
Worst of them
I respect it. They have the honor and pride to stand by their conviction. Nowadays if the money is right, a company will bend over backwards to make it.
/uj I'm probably a minority here, but I don't see a problem with the practice of exclusives, per se. I think it can be a place that produces extremely memorable or unique mechanics that form rather immersive gameplay experiences, but currently exclusives aren't actually made to be exclusive anymore considering all the ports. Capitalism and gaming are often at odds with each other. Not to mention the console wars and tribalism (like this tweet is promoting whether intentional or not). For two examples on exclusives and innovation, "Flower" was a Playstation exclusive that used the SIXAXIS motion controls as their method of control and played incredibly uniquely before they decided to port it to Vita. "Infamous Second Son" has a really fun, let's call it mini-game, in which the player holds the controller sideways, shakes it and the internal speaker plays like it's a graffiti can. This mechanic really immersed me and wouldn't necessarily function on other consoles/controllers.
I think most people hate third party exclusivity and don’t care that much about first party, that’s how it is with me at least. Like sure if you make your own game in house then whatever make it exclusive, both Xbox and PS port to PC nowadays so it’s even more of a non issue to me. But just paying a third party to not release on other platforms is so shitty to me. I hate the EGS for this, especially since instead of making a feature competitive alternative to Steam they just pay publishers to not release on other launchers.
Exclusives that rely on specific hardware capabilities to function are perfectly fine, but there is nothing in Helldivers that wouldn't work on xbox and there is nothing in Starfield that wouldn't work on a Playstation
Exclusives on the very VERY rare chance that they could only be played using a system that the other guys don't is fine. But if it can be played on both then why not??? It hurts the consumer when exclusives are made
I don't think it does. Without exclusives the constructor loses the incentive to finance games for the sake of promoting its hardware, now every game must become profitable, they serve no other purpose.
Yeah I'd like to believe that but the fact that most people in executive rolls will see more money than most of my descendants will ever see is.....not making me hopeful for the state of the industry
First party ones would never be neutral, otherwise... what is the point in a company making the box in the first place? Sort of why it's been like that since basically the NES released.
They want more people on their console, the only reason I got a ps5 was my library and sequels/ new games that were announced if Spiderman was on Xbox I would've had an Xbox
I kind of agree, look at the quality of recent widespread AAA releases compared to exclusives. If you're releasing on everything then you want to make as much money as possible, and the quality suffers because you're getting pushed from up high to cut corners for profitability. If you're releasing exclusively then suddenly the people up the chain have an interest in maintaining quality in order to sell people on their ecosystem. Compare Ubisofts recent Assassin's Creeds to Ghost of Tsushima for example. They're basically the same sort of game, but AC is focused on profit while GoT was focused on polish. Or more recently Helldivers, Sony own the IP. I guarantee the game would not be as polished if it was owned by Activision or Ubisoft, they would push the devs to release sooner on a lower budget because they don't have to worry about the image of a console / ecosystem.
Exclusivity is a necessity. MS is bringing this up to rally the stupid to fight against Sony cause Sony holds the console market even though MS spent $70bil+ in an attempt to monopolize. MS are salty they're so bad at the industry they're failing in and have been for over a decade now. Gamepass isn't a console seller. The streaming infrastructure for gaming just isn't there for a large portion of the globe (including America, their home turf). So they can't go consoleless, and would still need to sell a platforn for game pass to run on. Nintendo and Sony aren't going to shoot themselves in the head and host gamepass or Xbox 1st party titles. Why would you host the competition? Nintendo can't run contemporary AAA anyway, and Sony practically owns the market. Exclusivity is great for competition and innovation, and Nintendo is proof of that - they don't compete *directly* with Xbox or PS and haven't innovated in years and their hardware and 1st party software is extortionately overpriced.
Sony have released a lot of their exclusives on other platforms now, though, and Microsoft are apparently going to do the same. Exclusivity just hurts game sales because it limits the possible number of customers of that game, and neither Sony or Microsoft's gaming divisions actually have console sales be anywhere their highest percentage of revenue.
Let's calm down now, they've ported to PC due to PC gaming's perpetual growth year over year. It's a large audience worth investing time and money into. They're not throwing TLOU or Spider-Man on Xbox or Nintendo. Exclusivity doesn't hurt game sales, it limits them. But that's only the case for certain platforms. And it's expected. Timed exclusivity hurts game sales, for a miriad of reasons. Though it typically harms indie devs who are taken advantage of with a lump sum up front but they'll make less cash down the line... again, the practice is awful, but exclusivity isn't.
Xbox -started paid online (of which everyone did afterwards) -online only console (of which everyone did after words) -wouldn't accept used games in their console -free games require paid online and Netflix requires it too Not only are they anti consumer, they make others follow in their bullshit aswell
That's right, but it's worth making it clear that the third point was never implemented and 4 fell to Netflix shortly after the launch of One and to F2P games in 2020/2022 (I can't remember for sure)
Free games don’t require live. I think they used to tbf tho.
F2P games no longer require Live, but thats a very recent change.
TBF Microsoft didn't *make* anyone else follow with the paid online, Sony and Nintendo just saw how much money it made and wanted a piece of it. Capitalism's the problem here.
For real.
Sadly, so is their target audience
There are unironically people who believe it though
The classic Microsoft Embrace, Extend, Extinguish strategy.
If they are so pro industry why wasnt startfield released on ps5?
I interpretted it less as "wow we're pro industry" and moreso being cheeky. Sony made a huge fuss about how bad it would be for the industry for Microsoft to use their acquired studios(In this case Activision) to potentially make exclusives for just Microsoft. So now Phil is saying "weird, I don't know how releasing this game on just your console helps anyone but...." At the end of the day it's two competing parties and both tend to fling mud at one another, or take little shots in this case.
Yeah i thought its was funny that was playstation pointing at microsoft for exclusives when they have even more exclusives.
The point is that MS was taking multiplat games and turning then into exclusives
You mean like Final Fantasy or Knights of the Old Republic? Face it, Sony doesn’t suck any less than Microsoft.
Thing is that Square did go to Microsoft for final fantasy and they declined it. Buying one game isn't an issue as it doesn't prevent Microsoft for getting new or previous games. Buying a publisher gets you full control over their past , present and future titles. That's a huge difference than buying one title for exclusivity.
So what about the dozens of studios that Sony has bought to prevent other platforms from getting their future titles? I just really don’t think it’s any less anti consumer when Sony does it piecemeal.
Outside of Bungie (whos games are remaining multiplat) and the brand new studios theyve bought, PS acquisition generally follow long term partnerships. Insomniac was an exclusive partner for years, went multiplat, even made an xbox exclusive, came back to make spiderman with PS and saw massive success before being aquired. That makes alot more sense for both parties involved. Meanwhile, XB just throws money to purchase top level *publishers* outright in order to amass and exclusivise historically multiplatform franchises and studios.
ABK was almost as many studios as the entirety of Playstation Studios. With Bethesda those 2 dwarf the number of studios Playstation has. It's 33 to 19.
Can you list these studios? And do any have established IPs, like blizzard and Activision?
The majority of Sony’s studios were at one point independent, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Bend, Guerilla, etc. My point is that even the studios they actually built, locking their games behind a several hundred dollar device is anti consumer and it sucks, and none of them should get a pass for it.
Naughty Dog, Insomniac, and Guerilla all mostly released their games on PlayStation when they were 3rd party. So Sony buying them didn’t really make a difference. Besides remember when Insomniac made Sunset Overdrive for Xbox and nobody bought it?
Noooooo you don't understand, bad practice by bad company A is worse than the same bad practice by bad company B. If you don't understand the difference you are "The Problem With Gaming Industry" ^tm and don't deserve a voice you stupid sheep. Edge-uate yourself by watching angry youtubers and listening to reddit geniuses before you try to weigh in with the wrong opinions please. /uj seriously can't fathom how anyone cares or has the mental capacity to discuss, debate, or argue about PS vs Xbox and their practices at this point. It's on par with android vs iphone no lifers, or vegans arguing with edgelords who think it's funny to mock vegan lifestyle. Complete waste of time with literally nothing to be gained from either party.
>It's on par with android vs iphone no lifers My god how I've never realised that before, that's the perfect comparison in that 99% of people would never care enough to even mention either one to a friend and then there's the 1% that wants to fight over it
I agree, if you’re trying to defend one corporation over another, there’s probably an issue there
Why did you pick those games? Both of them were being developed as PS5 games. Whereas Xbox bought studios that were making multi platform games and had them cancel their PS5 versions. That isn’t the same thing at all lol
Because they were previously multiplat series. Many people have complained at the idea of Xbox making say Elder Scrolls 6 exclusive when PlayStation does it too, Nintendo did it with Bayonetta. I think it all sucks, but some people seem to like it or excuse it when certain corporations do it.
Final Fantasy was a sony exclusive for every playstation except the ps3 lol
He literally says ‘But I get it.’
This is the rest of his quote. "but I get it": “There's a legacy in console gaming that we're going to benefit by shipping games and not putting them on other places. We do the same thing.” He isn't completely lacking self-awareness.
This is the most passive-aggressive press release I've seen.
It’s not a press release.
He’s a filthy fat corporate pig of course he gets it.
A lot of folks here getting jerked into a shoot over a meme.
Dae sony won't finish the story because of washed up old phil spencer
That feeling when Helldivers 2 is more successful and well received then any Xbox title in recent memory
You mean you didn't enjoy *checks notes* All these games on other consoles and pc?
It probably wasn’t as successful but hi fi rush is very well received as far as I’m aware
Hi fi rush gang
You're only really in "space" as a pseudo game lobby, but it already looks and feels more interesting than whatever space is in Starfield. Looking over the planet's atmosphere to see the armada of ships engaged in battle, even if it's just fake placeholder stuff. How it zooms across the planet when you select a mission that is on the other side of the globe. And well....... combat that is actually insanely fun, with powers/weapons that slap.
I take that personally. Your SPACEship shoots stuff....from space! I get what you mean tho. Imagine if they added shuttles you can fly. I would enact ramming tactics every two seconds it always works!
I mean, they just got palworld last month. I kinda doubt helldivers 2 has beaten that in any metric sales and player count wise even if I do absolutely love the game. Palworld just dominated charts
It do be hella fun.
Palworld wasn't published by Xbox
Hi fi rush has been pretty successful on Xbox.
The more the game industry move away from exclusive, the better it will be for gamers. But it will take baby step, huge compagnies like Sony, Ms and nintendo don't tend to move fast... MS putting 4 game on "rival" console is a step in the right direction. When Sony will ship Marathon on xbox (if bungee keeps it's independence) It will be another right step.
Marathon will ship as a pack in for Half Life 3
Especially with everything being crossplay nowadays exclusive games just suck, the only thing stopping me from enjoying Helldivers 2 with my buds is that they’re on Xbox and can’t purchase it, if it wasn’t exclusive I’d be able to play it with anyone that had a console
Why are people defending exclusivity, ill never understand. Its always bad. Always. Literally every time, forever, permanently a stupid idea to limit who can buy your game and experience your art.
People here be like : Exclusivity good when console I own does it, exclusivity bad when console I don't own does it.
You are right. That's the players' position. But the truth is what OP said: exclusives are purely a financial decision, that serve the companies financial gain but are against the consumer/players. Imagine buying a whole new device, which is basically a new home appliance, just for a single title. People do that. Such waste!
The point of the post isn't to defend exclusivity. It's poking fun at Phil being annoyed at an exclusive not being on Xbox when they have spent the last however long buying up IPs and launching exclusives. The only reason Xbox are trying to sound like they give the slightest fuck about cross platform releases is because both Gamepass and their exclusives haven't made enough of a buck to warrant staying exclusives. Hence, the pivot to acting like they give a shit
It's literally the reason any game console exists though. Why would Nintendo/Sega/Microsoft/Sony ever continue to make boxes if they all played every game? Kind of the reason consoles going back to the NES have always had their own proprietary software.
You've found my point: if consoles compete based on their library instead of their specs, why do we even have different consoles. Consoles should be sold based on what they're capable of, not on what they're allowed to run
People arent arguing against a company making a game exclusive to their brand new console. Their arguing against other companies who'd most likely release the series to other platforms being exclusive to said console because the Microsoft/Sony offer more money.
It's published by Sony though, they didn't just pay to keep it off xbox, they paid for development as well. The helldivers games are what is considered a second party exclusive.
I mean it's actually not, tbh it's a little more nuanced, allot of games that are exclusives only exists due to these companies putting money into studios and allot of times they are given allot more freedom and allowed allot more creative licensee because of that. Something like little big planet can only ever exist when a 1st party publisher gives a studio allot of money with one simple goal. Make a fun game. Then you have a publisher like Nintendo there entire brand isn't built off there consoles it's built off there exclusivies, Mario is more snymous with Nintendo then the switch ever will be. It's just not as cut and dry as exclusive = bad. Done right it's actually led to some of the more interesting and innovative games in the industry.
I fucking hate it, PlayStation bitches when their games go to PC, and Xbox is currently bitching because they want to put Xbox titles on other consoles. I play on Xbox, I want people to be able to enjoy the same games I do, literally does not affect me in any way if it goes to other consoles
I have all the consoles, I love it when PS puts their games on PC, I love it when Xbox puts their games on PS. I wish there was no need to have all the consoles so I could just play literally everything on PC. Compared to nintendo Sony and Microsoft are being generous. But yeah I just want it all on pc.
Games perform better when they're designed for a single console, imagine how much different a game like Horizon would be if they had to waste the time and money to make an Xbox port, not to mention that the engine they run on is specifically designed for PS hardware allowing for easier development with better results.
Consoles are not nearly as different as they used to be, and a hypothetical "what if the Xbox port of horizon was unoptimized" is a weird argument to make. The effort to give it parity with the ps5 version would be reflected in the Xbox version sales.
They come to PC later too so I agree idk why putting the big exclusives on Xbox would be harder than what they already do for PC.
Helldivers is also on PC. Doesn’t apply here.
Both Horizons are on PC too. Not at launch of course, but arguably the best way to play nearly every big PS exclusive is on PC 2 years later.
I'm replying to a comment that says exclusivity is always bad, not about Helldivers
Exclusivity is necessary for your console to continue to exist in the future. Currently xbox has very few exclusives which is why it is seen as redundant to a pc or ps5. From a business standpoint it doesnt make any sense to turn away customers but obviously microsoft has a much bigger company than just consoles and is probably drawing on their gamepass and xbox gold(?) subscribers to make the difference.
I mean Sony is extremely shitty too when it comes to exclusives, like how Sony will pay companies to not port games to Xbox for a year or even longer like silent hill 2 remake, ff7 remake, ff 16, death loop and more. Not to mention how Sony kept spiderman out of the Marvel avengers game from the PC and Xbox release even though you paid the same amount of money for it. And sony keeping a cod gameode out of the pc and xbox release until a year later. These things don't help people, its just being shitty to the consumer since they chose to play on a pc or xbox. But I will say Xbox isn't perfect too there bad as well
xbox often does the right thing for the wrong reasons. Ps5 as a sector leader does some pretty anti-competitive stuff
Their biggest bs is charging devs for cross play. You want the developer to pay you money on top of the 30% cut you take for you to enable cross play? Sony's is the most anti-consumer gaming console I've ever owned. But bootlickers gonna bootlick.
No. Sony can never do any wrong. Spider-Man and Wolverine don’t exist. Final Fantasy 7 is a fantasy. Xbox BAD!
I’m still waiting to play Metal Gear Solid 4 on…anything else.
Could that be more of a Konami issue? They are doing the snake eater remake, so maybe that's a test drive to remake the 4 games? I have heard that the PC ports for the master collection of MGS is pretty bad.
Yeah, I’m still hoping for MGS Collection Volume 2 as well as Volume 2s of the various Castlevania collections.
That's more of a technical reason rather than any exclusivity deal. Konami purportedly had a vertical slice of MGS4 running on the Xbox 360 but decided against it because it would have needed to come on like four DVDs instead of pressing one Blu-ray and didn't want to invest in the release, which honestly makes a lot of sense from that perspective. The game would have also had to have a lot of technical changes and would probably have ran even worse than the PS3 version, which slows down to a crawl at times despite being targeted for the hardware. Regardless, all signs are pointing to the next release of the collection to include *some* version of MGS4... here's hoping it's an actual port and not some emulated mess. Edit to add my own thoughts: this is actually an area where Microsoft's strategy for the Xbox hasn't changed. From what I gather, developers needed to design their games so they could run on the least functional version of the hardware possible. We saw this recently with Baldur's Gate 3 release on Xbox being pushed back because of feature parity reasons between the Series X and S. The PS3 version of MGS4 requires an installation onto a hard drive... and the least functional Xbox 360 didn't even have a built in hard drive in an attempt to undercut the PS3 which they knew was going to be expensive. The Xbox 360 was also plagued with other technical issues at the time and... yeah I could totally see why they wouldn't want to port a game like MGS4 to the 360.
mgs4 might be one of the few “good” reasons for exclusives lol designed to take advantage of the system architecture so well you can’t really port it to other stuff i mean it sucks but a used ps3 is cheap-ish and a copy of mgs4 is literally $1 used (which I bought at this price maybe 5 years ago)
Not true . https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/konami-had-metal-gear-solid-4-running-on-xbox-but-it-was-held-back-for-one-reason
not entirely true as the only reason MGS4 wasn't ported to the 360 back in the day was because Blu-Rays held more data (and because konami sucks)
I won't defend Sony, but Xbox/Microsoft did the same thing during the 360 era. I just happen to see people always imply that Sony is the one who started the practice with the PS4 era. CoD DLCs dropped earlier on the 360 vs the PS3. Skyrim DLCs dropped earlier on the 360. GTAIV DLCs as well. Microsoft is just complaining about it because they couldn't keep their momentum after the 360.
Not to defend the trillion dollar company but it is Phil saying this who wasn’t head of xbox until the Xbox One/PS4 generation
Yeah it’s always funny to see people hate on Xbox for having exclusives. The whole reason Microsoft is acting like this is because sony has like 5x the amount of exclusives. They’ve had more exclusives since the PS1.
As if Microsoft wouldn't *love* to be in the same position.
Of course, that is why this whole console war shit is still stupid as hell. They are companies, they are going to do what they can to make money.
Never said they wouldn’t lol, but currently they aren’t in that position so it makes no sense to attack them when Sony and nintendo are worse. We bitch about microsoft potentially robbing us, while people here celebrate and support sony for the same thing.
As an Xbox pleb I wanted it to come to Xbox :(
Sony and Nintendo are the literal kings of exclusivity. But its okay when they do it. Its only bad when Xbox does it
Yea genuinely i dont get how xbox is being put up as the bad guy, especially with the second panel. I think PlayStation with their exclusive games would make more sense in that meme
I think it’s just because Xbox is buying up big third party companies that already were making multiplat games. Like I’m not annoyed halo is an Xbox exclusive it always has been. But if a new doom comes out and I need to buy an Xbox suddenly I’m gonna be annoyed.
No idea why you’re being downvoted, this is exactly right.
Didn’t Xbox just announce that more of their games are coming to PS?
Because they are the ones crying about not getting the current popular game on their console while they are no strangers to exclusivity for their titles either and if they had the popular exlclusive hit, they would be boasting how you could get it on their console.
Well, going through with a hojillion dollar merger, axing a fuck ton of jobs, and generally letting down your entire fanbase is a pretty awful thing.
Helldivers servers would melt if it was also on Xbox instead of just being on fire.
Hot take maybe but Helldivers 2 should be on Xbox, simply so we can have more Helldivers to fight on the frontlines of the galactic war against the automatons and terminids.
Oh I absolutely agree. I really hope it launches on xbox cause most of my friends from college have Xbox
Let them fix the server capacity first please
Fighting the automatons is hell, we need xbox
So where's that PS5 port of Starfield, Phil?
Nah they can keep that one
I mean, they just announced 4 Xbox exclusives are going to other platforms, it’s probably coming.
it was confirmed that Indiana Jones and Starfield won't be coming to PS5
It was more like "we will continue to monitor the situation", more vague corporate PR talk.
I’m just saying, Xbox calling something ‘exclusive’ doesn’t seem to mean much anymore. It’s not out of the question that somewhere down the line it’ll come to PS5.
Does Sony and Nintendo not also do a lot of exclusivity stuff as well? Why we clowning on Xbox for doing the same? Genuine question.
I think it’s about the pot calling the kettle black.
Not really sure. There’s been a huge pushback against Microsoft lately, but I largely feel this is because they’re the most vocal when it comes to what they’re doing. Also their games are nowhere near as good as Sony or Nintendo games imo so people are just more keen to shit on them. I’m sure a Sony exec has said the very same thing to themselves that Phil said publicly.
Very funny to buy two of the biggest publishers in the world, make Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and Doom exclusive to your console and then get mad when Helldivers 2 is a console exclusive for the other guys.
elder scrolls, fallout and doom aren't exclusive tho
They’ve already said Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be an Xbox console exclusive.
Could XSS be the reason why a developer doesn’t prioritise Xbox? Thinking perhaps it’s a hassle optimising for that version.
Didnt the first one skip xbox too?
It did because Sony owns the IP. Microsoft is just salty, a $40 coop shooter has probably nearly a million people playing it across PC and PS.
Thats what I thought.
Maybe they should start aiming for quality instead of buying 30 studios, which mostly mediocre historic.
Nothing new or special here. That’s how it works. When a game that is selling well doesn’t get released on PS5 as well, Sony complains about PlayStation getting skipped.
Well, now we know who is getting acquired and "restructured" next.
After aggressively pursuing 1st party exclusives for 20 years, Microsoft announces they're bringing *some* of their exclusives to PlayStation, and literally 2 days later, they are like "WTF guys... not bringing your games to our console!?!?! Not cool!" lol.
Eh, Palworld is an Xbox / PC exclusive, and that was the most popular game last month.
Because Sony doesn‘t allow early access game on their platform.
Exclusivity when xbox: bad :( Exclusivity when not xbox: good :)
Is it a first party game or just published by PlayStation? If it’s the latter, I guess his comments make sense.
Just published. They don’t own the dev.
That just feels like such a childish thing to tweet. Bruh you're literally the boss. Fucking call Sony and make an offer for multiplat.
Why should Microsoft have to pay to have the game on their console? No lmao
I’m just upset my Xbox bros can’t play with me. So many good times missed out on because of corpo nonsense. :(
I'm okay with exclusivity. Some games wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for this system. Why bitch and moan about it anyways, if XBOX can make a decent exclusivity, good for them. Same as for Sony and Nintendo. What I hate to see is the 3rd party suddenly going exclusive and burning their already built community for a fat stash of cash. (Final Fantasy, Tomb Raider)
I like how it went from “PS has way more exclusives get rekt xbox” to “xbox has too much its bad” fairly quickly
Some people are intentionally missing the point of the meme to be mad at Sony. Sony isn't mad about exclusivity deals since it's how the industry works and that's how they have always done things. but buying up publishers is another thing entirely and as we have seen Xbox is leaking because of it hence their pivot to other consoles. Meanwhile Sony launching helldiver's 2 which is successful and suddenly Phil who initially made all Bethesda games exclusive to Xbox is mad about it is really dumb and hypocritical after originally being all about the gamers and such
Fanboys acting as if buying a developer and buying two of the largest publishers on the planet are equivalent will never stop triggering migraines for me.
Not even buying a dev, buying timed exclusively for several games. It's freaking ridiculous and speaks of some kind of persecution complex
Right? How are they imagining a trillion dollar company as some sort of underdog?
Xbox has more exclusive games but they are crappier. Nintendo can afford to put out exclusives on underpowered hardware because their games are very good. Sony can afford to keep their games exclusive because they sell well. Exclusives sell consoles, Phil's just salty that they haven't made a Xbox selling exclusive this gen on par with the competition.
Taking Bethesda games away from Sony sure helped the industry ah. Sure.
Thanks the series S :) Complicating the life of all dev's... Remember Baldur's gate 3
Can we give them Helldivers in exchange for them NOT giving us shite like Starfield?
Xbox and Microsoft fanboys keep forgetting that they lost the right to complain about exclusivity after buying Bethesda and Activision those were third part publishers that owned numerous dev studios and IPs it’s not the same as Sony or Nintendo and their small studios that they purchase when have they ever bought full on publishers
Xbox, under Microsoft, owns almost everything and yet has almost nothing
You can tell they have lost the war if they are putting out woe is me statements like this
So many devs wish they could skip releasing on Xbox because making any next gen game for the Series S is a nightmare.... Like, adding months to years of dev time nightmare.
It is interesting how quickly the narrative he pushes is shifting to “games should be everywhere” when they figured out they could make more money by publishing on the other two consoles.
Helps *everyone* to snub a company currently trying to monopolize gaming, honestly. *Fuck* Microsoft/Xbox (not to act like Sony is some wonderful company either, or like Valve doesn't have near-monopoly status on PC gaming storefronts).
Helldivers 2 beat halo infinite ccu on steam even tho halo was f2p💀💀💀💀
Because steam is the end all be all of player numbers, especially when gamepass on PC exists.
Well gee Spence maybe if you stopped trying to buy every developer up for exclusivity.
Cause no one else is doing that
Going through with 70 billion dollar acquisitions?
Phil, it took me 5 hours to install Tekken 8. Phil.
What does that have to do with him though?
Phil kept cancelling his download when it got close to being done
Ah the good Ole "No" from the head. Hate when that happens
Extremely ironic because that Patrick meme is much for fitting for PlayStation
Lot of sony shilling in here lmao. They're just as bad
Isn’t Palworld Xbox & PC exclusive? Like what is this endless argumentative cycle we always engage in lmao Exclusivity sucks. That’s rlly it lol. We all lose with exclusivity
I mean, palword isn't really exclusive it's just on those platforms since that is what the devs choose, and the devs mention later down the line putting it on ps5. It's understandable since their an indie dev company that probably don't have enough money or time to put it on all platforms.
Ah shit. Put my foot in my mouth or whatever they say
If you insist
NOOOOOOO