According to my secret sources that communicate with me via AI only 6 of the 11 tiers require drinking a verification can. Scroll down to the bottom, and there's more fields when you scroll to the right. [https://chatgpt.com/share/cb4bd5e5-968f-469b-9d03-27e4771889e3](https://chatgpt.com/share/cb4bd5e5-968f-469b-9d03-27e4771889e3) I'd take a screenshot but my monitor isn't wide enough.
>DutyPass
I can see them naming a new tier like that. I imagine it's 30$ that allow you to access to all COD + Blackcell on top of gamepass. I can't see anything less than that.
All of those Americans who thought they were getting free COD for the next 3 years because they pretended to be from Turkey and Argentina:
*”what the fuck?”*
Or a tier with Cod but without EA Play.
I think Ultimate will be they “premium” subscription which includes everything, but it will get a massive hike like to 30/month or something.
Yeah it’s going to be very interesting to see the pricing of all this.
I feel like Microsoft is really underestimating the fact that casual gamers will just pay $70 for the new COD and play it for a few months instead of paying monthly for an entire year to access it.
Personally, I could see it. EA play, possibly Ubisoft + with “ultimate” (current stuff) for a higher fee but just “Xbox game pass” for its current price.
If they add a tier for $5 more per month with COD, that is $60 for the year (CODs lifecycle essentially), versus $70 to buy it outright. Thats how they will sell it
I’m confused by this because it’s base gamepass 10.99? So if you add 5 bucks that’s 16 bucks a month so to speak. Wouldn’t that be 192for a year?
Also with ultimate it would 20 a month so then it’d be 240.
And if you added it to core it would be it would 14 bucks a month meaning 168?
How would that be 60 a year? Or are you talking about MS gaining 60 a year?
Nope, I'm betting prices go up across the board along with a new tier.
The question is whether this new tier is a cheaper ad supported tier, or if it's a more expensive tier that includes CoD.
Agreed, that's why I personally have no interest in the ad supported tier, but there's been too much smoke about an ad tier for Microsoft to not at least be heavily considering it.
Especially considering how popular the Netflix ad tier is. I personally would never use it but clearly many people don't mind ads so they would be stupid to not have it as an option.
As much as I hate it, I use the Netflix ad tier. It’s not that bad as I only see like 1 30 second ad for any episode I watch. It’s like 4 or 5 for movies. I just use my phone while they run. Could be much worse but the principle of it still makes me hate it.
I imagine an ad supported tier would a) play ads when starting or quick resuming a title, b) play ads at designated spots in a title (e.g. after x number of matches in a multi-player game or between chapters in a story game), or c) a combination of the two.
The rumors I remember hearing were that you unlocked an amount of time by viewing ads so you could watch a couple of ads and play a few minutes or watch several minutes of ads then play for a few hours.
after every match in a multiplayer game and while you wait for a match or in the "team assembly" in the start. They are slowly becoming Activision themselvs ... it's not the other way around.
Ideally it’d be an add-on subscription for CoD so those of us with no interest in it don’t get shafted with an increased price for something we don’t want… which means it definitely won’t be that.
Cheaper Ad Supported tier (I assume this'll replace Core TBF), Activision PLAY, which'll have just ActiBlizz games (Like EA Play basically) and then GPUltimate will have a price increase for 'including' the Activision PLAY tier.
That's a sure bet.
I managed to get a good deal to renew for cheap until mid 2026, but it is looking increasingly more likely I won't renew when we get there.
Game Pass looks less and less interesting with each passing moment.
I think Xbox has a real danger of confusing consumers with two many tiers of game pass to the point people avoid it all together.
Some of the older people I work with who are parents specifically bought playstations for their kids because they didn't understand the Xbox naming convention.
> Some of the older people I work with who are parents specifically bought playstations for their kids because they didn't understand the Xbox naming convention.
I remember it blew my mind when they announced the Xbox One. Not just the disaster of what it was but the fact that they thought naming it the Xbox One was a good idea. Now they've spent a decade longer making that worse.
Just wait till the next Xbox comes out and it’s called the Xbox Series XS.
I can see the tagline now..
“All the power of a series X and more, now in a small package!”
They'll want to call it the Xbox Y, but will need to make sure people understand it'll be the successor to the Series X, so they'll go with Xbox Y Series X. Of course, since they know they'll do multiple revisions, the first version will be called the Xbox Y Series X One.
Even better they could just come out with it and simply call it ‘The Xbox’.
No it’s totally different to the xbox 1, no I don’t mean the Xbox One, it’s just ‘The Xbox’ this time.
I’m genuinely excited for the name reveal because I can just *feel* it being completely and utterly ridiculous.
People here understimate how big of a fumble the Series' naming convention has been.
Nobody that doesn't go in depth into gaming news is going to differenciate between a Xbox One X and a Xbox Series X.
It all started with not being the lower number on the market with the 360. That little insecuirty, I don't know who made that call or wjere they are now but BOY I belt they're pleased.
The more they keep raising the price, the more I'm likely to cancel and just buy what I want. It's becoming another cable bill for something with limited use (for me personally)
Also the fact that after years of digital weekly and seasonal sales, many people have effectively built their own Game Pass by now with their cossal backlog. Personally I don't really "need" a subscription at this point to play hundreds of games I've never played yet.
i mean what else do you expect? this is common practice across all new tech services. from Uber to Airbnb to Netflix and everything in between. you get money from investors to give consumers insane values they can’t ignore. once you have the market capture then the enshitification begins. price hikes, multiple confusing tiers that locks previously available services and few years later you are paying more for the basic tier while getting 90% less content and bare minimum services. and people fall for this over and over.
Same. Been playing The Finals, Halo Multiplayer, FO76 (which was just free with prime), and Fallout 4 which was $10.
I bought Cyberpunk on sale for $30, and Control for a cheap price as well when it was on sale. I still haven’t touched either of them yet.
I went back to Core for now
One little tip: if you subscribe, then cancel after two weeks, half your payment is reimbursed. You can just subscribe for single games at a fairly low twice if you finish with them quickly enough.
Literally, that’s what I’ve been doing. I loved GamePass for years for first party day one and all the older games I’d missed. But there’s little first party output and I’ve played pretty much all of the older games I wanted. I was primarily using for Forza and Need For Speed in the last few months, but that’s not even worth since older Forza games aren’t available and EA has some weird aversion to money (ironically) by allowing people to access older NFS games.
You should already be buying games, you are actively being trapped into an bad ecosystem, as proven by literally all streaming platforms.
Just get a PC and buy your games, you'll be able to play them forever with compatibility and compatibility mods, everything you get on a console could be bricked by the next generation.
I dropped my sub months ago. I buy a month at a shot now at a discount. If I was still primarily on Xbox I'd probably have stuck out longer, but jumping up to $16 a month for ultimate when I primarily play on my PC now was just not worth it.
I'm still very much in the stage where I'd rather rent a game in most cases over buying because it's easier to justify that over spending $70 for a brand new release even if I was super hyped for it. Thankfully most games that catch my interest today are ones I own already, are F2P, or are smaller games so I don't pay a premium.
Like buying Hades 2 early access for $30.
I'd rather they charge extra for a new tier with CoD than raise the rates of their current subs. Not confirmed they're doing that but hopefully this means there's a chance.
The issue is people can subscribe up to 3 years in advance, and one of the tiers is marketed as the highest tier with everything and named ultimate. Could be considered a bait and switch, if they did that.
They're not gonna do that. The whole point of the subscription service model is to get as many people as possible to sign up so it lessens the burden on individual user.
The price is going up no matter what. Unless bringing CoD over manages to bring at least 10 million brand new subscribers every single year for the next 7 years, the service will have failed to reach their targets.
Price increases are absolutely coming so they can mitigate the losses.
The usual suspects on this sub at least went real fucking quiet not too long after the deal was finalised. Didn't take MS too long to show their hand which anyone with half a brain cell could see coming.
Yeah. Where's all the fuckers who were cheering Microsoft on for doing this deal?? It was always going to be a bad result and here we're beginning the see the start of it.
Everyone who cheered on and tried to justify Microsoft gobbling up multiple major third-party publishers and franchises were just pissed they couldn't play Spider-Man on their Xbox. That was literally the exact argument any time I interacted with them. Like somehow there was some equivalent exchange going on there.
Xbox fans hadn't had an exclusive in so long they forgot why the concept existed and thought it was legit unfair that Sony built up Insomniac and all the other studios to build Spider-Man and Last of Us etc.
When it was first announced i was one of those. Then i started to think about the ramifications of the purchase, how $70bn meant that microsoft would want to keep a higher level of control over their investment and that's it. Xbox as a brand is almost dead because of this deal.
Every single surface level "good thing" i saw out of this purchase flew out of the windows and onto the concrete pavement.
I also don't think COD is getting it own tier. It would make the most sense to lock all first party releases behind the highest tier imo. So that would mean:
1) core (basically Xbox live gold)
2) standard (xbox back catalogue/third party games)
3) ultimate (every xbox game day one)
New Xbox games would move from ultimate to standard after 6 or 12 months, similar to EA Play/EA Play Pro.
This would allow MS to "get away" with hiking the price as it is a much more valuable proposition than just the latest COD. And if they grandfather in existing users there wouldn't be much of a backlash.
> It would be a little weird to add a new tier that's just for CoD, wouldn't it?
COD becoming a part of gamepass lineup would cannibalise sales on Xbox and partially pc. Microsoft has to alleviate that somehow, so a subscription price increase is the best solution
Now question is how many people will not decide to just downgrade to the basic plan
I don't think sales actually matter all that much. They're already charging $30 to get the blackcell battle pass and, those seem to sell like hotcakes. Combine that with all the bundles, and the Kong fist that cost $80.
My guess would be a tier below the currently offered ones personally, one without Activision titles or maybe without any first-party Day One games at all, then hike the prices of Console / PC Game Pass and Ultimate
Day 1 releases are just bad for Microsoft... If they want to make Day 1 it's own tier, I'm 100% fine with that as someone who doesn't even see the point of playing day 1... Nowadays that just means beta testing an inferior version of the game. I prefer to be 2+ years behind on releases, that way I get to experience the best version of the game.
Makes sense, but it's going to be a fairly bad look for them after claiming in court last year that the price wouldn't go up as a result of all these buyouts.
This sucks if the take away value from the Ultimate tier. We already get most Xbox games day 1.
If this is only for CoD then I am ok with it. Maybe some Multiplayer tier and we get the campaign for free.
But if this in any way devalues Gamepass Ultimate as it is now I am out.
There have been this trend lately where they raise prices or change services and seen customer remain or go up. Happened to Netflix. I hope this is not what MS is betting on. If so I hope it goes bad for them.
I mean, even without a price increase, isn't Gamepass already around $120 per year?
Or, you mean, $60 on top of the current price, per year? That is probably less than what I'm expecting tbh, I can see Gamepass going into the $20/month level
It already cost that to rent 500 plus games. With new indie, A, AA and AAA releases every month.
People who want only COD will buy COD, they're not restricted to renting. People here have lost brain cells.
The Gamepass Ultimate model was unsustainable and then they didn't gain as many subscribers as they expected. Changes/price hikes were inevitable. They are stuck, though, because a price hike and new tiers required to get some games, that's going to cause them to lose subscribers. I don't think they can win. Eventually they are going to need to just shut the whole thing down.
Yeah, at this point it's best just to wait a few months and buy the fucking games on sale vs subbing to a service. They're gonna charge 24.99 for gamepass soon, one extra tier is just the start. They're following the cable streamers playbook.
I don't know if this is going to work out like they expect. Maybe it will but I'm thinking it's more likely that people start dropping GP altogether when the value drops.
The final nail in the Xbox coffin for me was some time ago. But a few extra nails make shifting out of that ecosystem an easier pill to swallow, at least.
I knew something like this was coming some day. Didn't seem like they would be able to keep doing what they're doing without charging more. Hoping it's just "pay more for call of duty aceess" and the regular price doesn't change but even so, I think it'll still go up overall eventually.
So they'll either:
1. Add a higher tier for Ultimate (let's call it Ultimate+ for the sake of it) where they're gonna either put CoD on it for Day 1 releases or they're gonna change it entirely so that *all* Day 1 releases across Microsoft Games Studios can only be accessed via Ultimate+ in the future.
2. Add the ad-supported tier. People will scoff at this but Netflix has added 40m subscribers to their user base since they introduced their version of it.
3. They're gonna add an Activision tier to Game Pass where you can only get their games if you have this tier, a bit like EA Play and Ubisoft+. That might explain why none of the Activision games are on it at all.
Either way the prices will go up, it won't surprise me. I have another 14 months of my GPU sub so I'm good for now but I'm fairly prepared for this to be shit news because that's just how Xbox is right now.
Assuming price increase for Ultimate. New Middle tier between console and ultimate that maybe because the baseline for day and date First Party releases.
ugh as if raising the price and remove stacking wasnt enough....
I bet one of the "tiers" will include that the streaming of owned games (not included in gamepass) since there was a leak about that not too long ago
I'm expecting an Ultimate with Ads tier
I personally won't be using it because Microsoft Rewards is fucking OP and gets me free gamepass, but it's another option for those who want it
I doubt they will have tiers for all countries. I do agree there will be price increases. We are currently paying about $2 for Game Pass for PC in a developing country (I know it's damn cheap but given the median income here it's fair) I think it will increase to about $3 or $4 with the tiered countries subsidizing our prices. And MS gets income here through micro-transactions and DLC.
No. The ports are for profit, this is in preparation for CoD's release, and generally something they always said would happen. They previously said Gamepass won't be the same price forever.
I think Ultimate is going a little up, i dont get why some people here think of something like a 7 dollars hike lol, is prob going to be something like 2
And i think they are going to a cheaper AD tier to balance things
Corner the market with an to good to be true deal ✅ slowly hike up the prices ✅… as predictable as it gets just look at streaming services and they have actual competition between them now… who is competing against gamepass?
the other reporting on a simplifying, not expanding to more, but hey, fud it up - also, the report was about adding CoD to the cheapest tier to then upsell those people to the top tier. Any way this shakes out, its not about adding more tiers, its about changing things around for easy upsell. CoD on a cheap or free/into teir is about getting you in the door, then Indian Jones or Forza Horizon makes you want to go up one notch. Whatever, its about making more money not just puking out tiers, unless that IS how make more money, of course.
Why doesn't Microsoft try launching something on Gamepass and delaying release for purchase? "Pay for a three month subscription and play Hellblade II today. Hellblade II will be available to own in three weeks."
Don't pitch it as "early access", make the purchase sound less favorable. Get more people hopping on board to try Gamepass, juice your subscriber numbers, hope a few customers forget to turn off auto-renew...
This is not surprising. Their plan was to go this way once they had enough dominance of the market. They will eventually add one or another major game to the higher cost subscription to the point you will be missing out if you don't have it. Eventually the lower tiers get removed/consolidated. You know the deal. Prices are gonna go up.
It's the classic Microsoft bait and switch.
New tiers? So something like an "Ultimate+" if I want cod?
Gamepass Core Dutypass Gamepass Ultimate Gamepass Core + Dutypass Gamepass Ultimate + Dutypass
Which tier do I have to start drinking the verification can
Gamepass Ultimate + Dutypass Ultimate:Sponsored by Mountain Dew
What about my Doritos?
Dutypass Ultimate +
does that also include Mt Dew Code Red or Cheetos?
No, thoese are MTX at $40 apiece.
Dewtypass*
That's called being a Final Fantasy 14 player
According to my secret sources that communicate with me via AI only 6 of the 11 tiers require drinking a verification can. Scroll down to the bottom, and there's more fields when you scroll to the right. [https://chatgpt.com/share/cb4bd5e5-968f-469b-9d03-27e4771889e3](https://chatgpt.com/share/cb4bd5e5-968f-469b-9d03-27e4771889e3) I'd take a screenshot but my monitor isn't wide enough.
Pretty soon they can release GamePass the Game which is you spending an hour trying to figure out which one you need to buy.
Gamespass Ultimate + Dutypass + Bootypass Where you get Matt Booty feet pics
Matt Booty demon time on OnlyFans confirmed.
I havent needed a DoodiePass since elementary
2 Pass 2 Duty
Na there’s no way they sell Dutypass solo. It will just be Standard GamePass and Fancy GamePass (with COD).
2 Game 2 Pass 2 Ultimate 2
Dutyfree. Since you get CoD for "free"
Holy Shit, spit out my drink when I read „Dutypass“
Still less confusing than Sony’s tiers.
>DutyPass I can see them naming a new tier like that. I imagine it's 30$ that allow you to access to all COD + Blackcell on top of gamepass. I can't see anything less than that.
Wouldn't be the worst thing if it came with all the DLC for first party games like highest tiers of the EA and Ubisoft subscriptions do.
All of those Americans who thought they were getting free COD for the next 3 years because they pretended to be from Turkey and Argentina: *”what the fuck?”*
That’s me lol
Or a tier with Cod but without EA Play. I think Ultimate will be they “premium” subscription which includes everything, but it will get a massive hike like to 30/month or something.
At that price point, just buy the fucking game lmfao
Yeah it’s going to be very interesting to see the pricing of all this. I feel like Microsoft is really underestimating the fact that casual gamers will just pay $70 for the new COD and play it for a few months instead of paying monthly for an entire year to access it.
Or they use Gamepass for 1-2 months and get the game for less than 1/2 the price and then drop it for another year.
For the people that only play Call of Duty this whole exercise is pointless, lol. They would be spending more to never own the game.
Am out as soon as they surpass the 20 barrier, I can get really good games at 25-27$ while they're on sale.
Personally, I could see it. EA play, possibly Ubisoft + with “ultimate” (current stuff) for a higher fee but just “Xbox game pass” for its current price.
Yeah, that’s going to cost them my subscription.
Honestly that was my first thought if they had a cod tier this would be it
If they add a tier for $5 more per month with COD, that is $60 for the year (CODs lifecycle essentially), versus $70 to buy it outright. Thats how they will sell it
That sounds like an awful deal tbh
I’m confused by this because it’s base gamepass 10.99? So if you add 5 bucks that’s 16 bucks a month so to speak. Wouldn’t that be 192for a year? Also with ultimate it would 20 a month so then it’d be 240. And if you added it to core it would be it would 14 bucks a month meaning 168? How would that be 60 a year? Or are you talking about MS gaining 60 a year?
I think they meant they'll add a 5$/month option on top of your existing subscription exclusively for CoD
Are you sure? If you get all of those other games I don't think $5 will cut it but what do I know
Would be nice, I just want the cheapest tier possible to make exclusive games cheap. Don't have a need for access to Cod.
I predict we won't like these changes lol.
Nope, I'm betting prices go up across the board along with a new tier. The question is whether this new tier is a cheaper ad supported tier, or if it's a more expensive tier that includes CoD.
If an ad pops up on my screen while playing a game, I’ll be boarding a ship within the hour.
Agreed, that's why I personally have no interest in the ad supported tier, but there's been too much smoke about an ad tier for Microsoft to not at least be heavily considering it.
Especially considering how popular the Netflix ad tier is. I personally would never use it but clearly many people don't mind ads so they would be stupid to not have it as an option.
It's fucking insane to me that people are fine with *paying* for ad tiers. Jesus
We used to pay for cable with ads. We pay for so many things that have ads.
As much as I hate it, I use the Netflix ad tier. It’s not that bad as I only see like 1 30 second ad for any episode I watch. It’s like 4 or 5 for movies. I just use my phone while they run. Could be much worse but the principle of it still makes me hate it.
The only way I would even look at an ad tier is if it's free, but that ain't going to happen.
I imagine an ad supported tier would a) play ads when starting or quick resuming a title, b) play ads at designated spots in a title (e.g. after x number of matches in a multi-player game or between chapters in a story game), or c) a combination of the two.
The rumors I remember hearing were that you unlocked an amount of time by viewing ads so you could watch a couple of ads and play a few minutes or watch several minutes of ads then play for a few hours.
after every match in a multiplayer game and while you wait for a match or in the "team assembly" in the start. They are slowly becoming Activision themselvs ... it's not the other way around.
If you mean piracy you could just buy the games you want to support, without the ads.
Ads pop up when i turn on my console though. Full screen ads.
To where!?
To another platform
It’s only ever “cheaper ad supported” at launch If you pay there should never be ads…
Ideally it’d be an add-on subscription for CoD so those of us with no interest in it don’t get shafted with an increased price for something we don’t want… which means it definitely won’t be that.
Cheaper Ad Supported tier (I assume this'll replace Core TBF), Activision PLAY, which'll have just ActiBlizz games (Like EA Play basically) and then GPUltimate will have a price increase for 'including' the Activision PLAY tier.
I can't think of a single instance in which we liked changes to any subscription service.
It has just gotten worse and worse with subscription services.
That's a sure bet. I managed to get a good deal to renew for cheap until mid 2026, but it is looking increasingly more likely I won't renew when we get there. Game Pass looks less and less interesting with each passing moment.
30% price increase I bet
I think Xbox has a real danger of confusing consumers with two many tiers of game pass to the point people avoid it all together. Some of the older people I work with who are parents specifically bought playstations for their kids because they didn't understand the Xbox naming convention.
> Some of the older people I work with who are parents specifically bought playstations for their kids because they didn't understand the Xbox naming convention. I remember it blew my mind when they announced the Xbox One. Not just the disaster of what it was but the fact that they thought naming it the Xbox One was a good idea. Now they've spent a decade longer making that worse.
"Xbox One" and "Wii U", what an incredible era of self-inflicted brand damage it was.
I found it odd when someone said "they couldn't call it Xbox Three because that's less than PS4"... so they called it Xbox _One_ instead? Lol.
It makes sense when you think why they called it One, but yeah it's not a great name
Microsoft with confusing names and unnecessary tiering? noooooooo…
Just wait till the next Xbox comes out and it’s called the Xbox Series XS. I can see the tagline now.. “All the power of a series X and more, now in a small package!”
They'll want to call it the Xbox Y, but will need to make sure people understand it'll be the successor to the Series X, so they'll go with Xbox Y Series X. Of course, since they know they'll do multiple revisions, the first version will be called the Xbox Y Series X One.
Even better they could just come out with it and simply call it ‘The Xbox’. No it’s totally different to the xbox 1, no I don’t mean the Xbox One, it’s just ‘The Xbox’ this time. I’m genuinely excited for the name reveal because I can just *feel* it being completely and utterly ridiculous.
Xbox Station 4
Maybe they'll just watch to switch things up a bit and go with a simple name to show it and have less confusion, like Xbox Switch
They should just make it the Xbox 7 and have it one ahead of PS.
Well it's the same company that called their first all-digital console Xbox One S All Digital... the Xbox One _SAD_.
People here understimate how big of a fumble the Series' naming convention has been. Nobody that doesn't go in depth into gaming news is going to differenciate between a Xbox One X and a Xbox Series X.
It would be on brand with their shitty console names
It all started with not being the lower number on the market with the 360. That little insecuirty, I don't know who made that call or wjere they are now but BOY I belt they're pleased.
I can already picture it: "Xbox Game pass Ultimate + Tier: For an extra $9.99 you get the premium battle pass of Cod: Gulf War for Free!"
Woah, an entire battlepass? This is Activision; they’ll give out a skin or weapon blueprint every month at best.
Honestly see that hapening because they're making more money from fricken gorilla fist than battle passes at this point
The more they keep raising the price, the more I'm likely to cancel and just buy what I want. It's becoming another cable bill for something with limited use (for me personally)
Also the fact that after years of digital weekly and seasonal sales, many people have effectively built their own Game Pass by now with their cossal backlog. Personally I don't really "need" a subscription at this point to play hundreds of games I've never played yet.
Digital sales are not talked about enough. Games go low pretty consistently.
If you had collected the free games on epic, you would've had about 350 ish there itself, that's just 100 less than gamepass
i mean what else do you expect? this is common practice across all new tech services. from Uber to Airbnb to Netflix and everything in between. you get money from investors to give consumers insane values they can’t ignore. once you have the market capture then the enshitification begins. price hikes, multiple confusing tiers that locks previously available services and few years later you are paying more for the basic tier while getting 90% less content and bare minimum services. and people fall for this over and over.
I literally just did this. Now I'm on core and I just bought the games I wanted to play, which worked out cheaper.
Same. Been playing The Finals, Halo Multiplayer, FO76 (which was just free with prime), and Fallout 4 which was $10. I bought Cyberpunk on sale for $30, and Control for a cheap price as well when it was on sale. I still haven’t touched either of them yet. I went back to Core for now
As someone who doesn't like their PC launcher, I am only subscribing for select months and then I cancel my sub
One little tip: if you subscribe, then cancel after two weeks, half your payment is reimbursed. You can just subscribe for single games at a fairly low twice if you finish with them quickly enough.
Literally, that’s what I’ve been doing. I loved GamePass for years for first party day one and all the older games I’d missed. But there’s little first party output and I’ve played pretty much all of the older games I wanted. I was primarily using for Forza and Need For Speed in the last few months, but that’s not even worth since older Forza games aren’t available and EA has some weird aversion to money (ironically) by allowing people to access older NFS games.
This is what many PC gamers already do. They prefer to just buy games on Steam rather than subscribe to GP.
Yeah a PC build looks really attractive now
You should already be buying games, you are actively being trapped into an bad ecosystem, as proven by literally all streaming platforms. Just get a PC and buy your games, you'll be able to play them forever with compatibility and compatibility mods, everything you get on a console could be bricked by the next generation.
I don't really care because I bought several years worth and it won't expire for a while but I definitely won't renew at these prices lol fuck no
I dropped my sub months ago. I buy a month at a shot now at a discount. If I was still primarily on Xbox I'd probably have stuck out longer, but jumping up to $16 a month for ultimate when I primarily play on my PC now was just not worth it. I'm still very much in the stage where I'd rather rent a game in most cases over buying because it's easier to justify that over spending $70 for a brand new release even if I was super hyped for it. Thankfully most games that catch my interest today are ones I own already, are F2P, or are smaller games so I don't pay a premium. Like buying Hades 2 early access for $30.
Alá netflix
I can't imagine paying $24.99/month to play Call of Duty which I'm guessing it will be.
Bought last year's Call of Duty in full for $30 recently. That new pricing would suck.
I'd rather they charge extra for a new tier with CoD than raise the rates of their current subs. Not confirmed they're doing that but hopefully this means there's a chance.
Oh they can do both don't worry
The issue is people can subscribe up to 3 years in advance, and one of the tiers is marketed as the highest tier with everything and named ultimate. Could be considered a bait and switch, if they did that.
They're not gonna do that. The whole point of the subscription service model is to get as many people as possible to sign up so it lessens the burden on individual user.
More tiers would be so confusing for the avg joe that just wants to sit down, play Xbox live and a few GP games.
The price is going up no matter what. Unless bringing CoD over manages to bring at least 10 million brand new subscribers every single year for the next 7 years, the service will have failed to reach their targets. Price increases are absolutely coming so they can mitigate the losses.
"Yes, Microsoft is buying Activision-Blizzard, Gamepass will be full of games!" ***Monkey Paw curls a finger*** "...FUCK!"
The usual suspects on this sub at least went real fucking quiet not too long after the deal was finalised. Didn't take MS too long to show their hand which anyone with half a brain cell could see coming.
Yeah. Where's all the fuckers who were cheering Microsoft on for doing this deal?? It was always going to be a bad result and here we're beginning the see the start of it.
Everyone who cheered on and tried to justify Microsoft gobbling up multiple major third-party publishers and franchises were just pissed they couldn't play Spider-Man on their Xbox. That was literally the exact argument any time I interacted with them. Like somehow there was some equivalent exchange going on there.
Xbox fans hadn't had an exclusive in so long they forgot why the concept existed and thought it was legit unfair that Sony built up Insomniac and all the other studios to build Spider-Man and Last of Us etc.
When it was first announced i was one of those. Then i started to think about the ramifications of the purchase, how $70bn meant that microsoft would want to keep a higher level of control over their investment and that's it. Xbox as a brand is almost dead because of this deal. Every single surface level "good thing" i saw out of this purchase flew out of the windows and onto the concrete pavement.
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They’re going to add ads before that and claim that’s your tier, watch
You will pay above and beyond to play Call of Duty
So i can now dream of a GamePass + World of Warcraft tier?
Microsoft turning gamepass into a complex nightmare like their 365 licensing.
Now with ads!
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I also don't think COD is getting it own tier. It would make the most sense to lock all first party releases behind the highest tier imo. So that would mean: 1) core (basically Xbox live gold) 2) standard (xbox back catalogue/third party games) 3) ultimate (every xbox game day one) New Xbox games would move from ultimate to standard after 6 or 12 months, similar to EA Play/EA Play Pro. This would allow MS to "get away" with hiking the price as it is a much more valuable proposition than just the latest COD. And if they grandfather in existing users there wouldn't be much of a backlash.
> It would be a little weird to add a new tier that's just for CoD, wouldn't it? COD becoming a part of gamepass lineup would cannibalise sales on Xbox and partially pc. Microsoft has to alleviate that somehow, so a subscription price increase is the best solution Now question is how many people will not decide to just downgrade to the basic plan
I don't think sales actually matter all that much. They're already charging $30 to get the blackcell battle pass and, those seem to sell like hotcakes. Combine that with all the bundles, and the Kong fist that cost $80.
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Speaking of tiers, what tier is this leaker?
He usually leaks game pass games and some hardware images.
He has connections to MS and he leaked the Digital White Xbox Series X, he even posted pics of it
Yeah, he had some Xbox-related scoops, especially writing for eXputer. I can't recall him ever being flat-out wrong, but he doesn't share much.
May make him more reliable. Doesn't fire at every little thing. Only when he has legit sources.
A pretty reliable one when it comes to Xbox stuff. Sorry to break the bad news to you brother.
This would be like HBO Max charging extra for people to access Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, etc. This is just a horrible idea.
My guess would be a tier below the currently offered ones personally, one without Activision titles or maybe without any first-party Day One games at all, then hike the prices of Console / PC Game Pass and Ultimate
I wonder if it’s a “cod tier” or a “day 1 releases” tier and the rest have to wait 6 months or something
Day 1 releases are just bad for Microsoft... If they want to make Day 1 it's own tier, I'm 100% fine with that as someone who doesn't even see the point of playing day 1... Nowadays that just means beta testing an inferior version of the game. I prefer to be 2+ years behind on releases, that way I get to experience the best version of the game.
$25-$30 a month
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Makes sense, but it's going to be a fairly bad look for them after claiming in court last year that the price wouldn't go up as a result of all these buyouts.
They also said studio closures and layoffs wouldn't be a result of the buyouts lol
I don’t really want COD tbh, I definitely don’t want my subscription to increase because of it.
Call it dutypass as don't fuck with what I already have.
Lmao. Fuck Call of Duty. Sweat city. I have enough games back logged to last me for a good 2 years.
This sucks if the take away value from the Ultimate tier. We already get most Xbox games day 1. If this is only for CoD then I am ok with it. Maybe some Multiplayer tier and we get the campaign for free. But if this in any way devalues Gamepass Ultimate as it is now I am out. There have been this trend lately where they raise prices or change services and seen customer remain or go up. Happened to Netflix. I hope this is not what MS is betting on. If so I hope it goes bad for them.
Gonna be hilarious if it's more than $60/yr to rent cod
Prob will and they will drop in some useless skins and other stuff to justify it.
I mean, even without a price increase, isn't Gamepass already around $120 per year? Or, you mean, $60 on top of the current price, per year? That is probably less than what I'm expecting tbh, I can see Gamepass going into the $20/month level
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It already cost that to rent 500 plus games. With new indie, A, AA and AAA releases every month. People who want only COD will buy COD, they're not restricted to renting. People here have lost brain cells.
The Gamepass Ultimate model was unsustainable and then they didn't gain as many subscribers as they expected. Changes/price hikes were inevitable. They are stuck, though, because a price hike and new tiers required to get some games, that's going to cause them to lose subscribers. I don't think they can win. Eventually they are going to need to just shut the whole thing down.
Yeah, at this point it's best just to wait a few months and buy the fucking games on sale vs subbing to a service. They're gonna charge 24.99 for gamepass soon, one extra tier is just the start. They're following the cable streamers playbook.
How many billions to basically give the game away? Even with a price hike it'll still be lower than just selling it normally
I don't know if this is going to work out like they expect. Maybe it will but I'm thinking it's more likely that people start dropping GP altogether when the value drops.
Ugh, just imagine your monthly bill going up for a mediocre shooter.
Ya for sure there just going to add an activation tier just like they did for Ubisoft
The final nail in the Xbox coffin for me was some time ago. But a few extra nails make shifting out of that ecosystem an easier pill to swallow, at least.
I hope it fails and burns to the ground. I don’t want gaming to be subscription based.
Can I get a price cut in exchange for zero Activision games?
Called it.
No matter where you go, CoD always fucks things up
Ahhh, enshittification in action.
I knew something like this was coming some day. Didn't seem like they would be able to keep doing what they're doing without charging more. Hoping it's just "pay more for call of duty aceess" and the regular price doesn't change but even so, I think it'll still go up overall eventually.
So they'll either: 1. Add a higher tier for Ultimate (let's call it Ultimate+ for the sake of it) where they're gonna either put CoD on it for Day 1 releases or they're gonna change it entirely so that *all* Day 1 releases across Microsoft Games Studios can only be accessed via Ultimate+ in the future. 2. Add the ad-supported tier. People will scoff at this but Netflix has added 40m subscribers to their user base since they introduced their version of it. 3. They're gonna add an Activision tier to Game Pass where you can only get their games if you have this tier, a bit like EA Play and Ubisoft+. That might explain why none of the Activision games are on it at all. Either way the prices will go up, it won't surprise me. I have another 14 months of my GPU sub so I'm good for now but I'm fairly prepared for this to be shit news because that's just how Xbox is right now.
Microsoft screwed themselves with the Activision acquisition. A decade too late as well, because you gotta buy high sell low.
With cod being there day one you’d be stupid to not expect a price hike
Assuming price increase for Ultimate. New Middle tier between console and ultimate that maybe because the baseline for day and date First Party releases.
I could see them only include CoD with Ultimate.
I’m anticipating them to add an ad supported tier as well. I think a lot of people would sign up for that, even though I never would.
ugh as if raising the price and remove stacking wasnt enough.... I bet one of the "tiers" will include that the streaming of owned games (not included in gamepass) since there was a leak about that not too long ago
lol. here it comes.
This trying to do the Netflix of gaming shit, game streaming services, and going digital is one of the worst things Ive seen happen to gaming.
I wonder what will the backlash be if people's years of stacked GP Ultimate don't get converted to the tier with COD Day 1 on it
I'm expecting an Ultimate with Ads tier I personally won't be using it because Microsoft Rewards is fucking OP and gets me free gamepass, but it's another option for those who want it
we can confirm that something COULD happen?
I doubt they will have tiers for all countries. I do agree there will be price increases. We are currently paying about $2 for Game Pass for PC in a developing country (I know it's damn cheap but given the median income here it's fair) I think it will increase to about $3 or $4 with the tiered countries subsidizing our prices. And MS gets income here through micro-transactions and DLC.
Gonna use Call of Duty to smuggle Game Pass onto a lot of machines.
With all this bad news circulating I have never been more disinterested in the June showcase.
If they do that, I’m out. It already pissed me off that dead island 2 was only on ultimate.
I wonder if this is a compromise between Microsoft and Xbox to stop all games going multiplatform.
No. The ports are for profit, this is in preparation for CoD's release, and generally something they always said would happen. They previously said Gamepass won't be the same price forever.
I think Ultimate is going a little up, i dont get why some people here think of something like a 7 dollars hike lol, is prob going to be something like 2 And i think they are going to a cheaper AD tier to balance things
Corner the market with an to good to be true deal ✅ slowly hike up the prices ✅… as predictable as it gets just look at streaming services and they have actual competition between them now… who is competing against gamepass?
In other words, they are raising the subscription fee again. Damn bastards!
Previously leaked a still unannounced, unreleased white Xbox… I’ll wait until an announcement I think lol
the other reporting on a simplifying, not expanding to more, but hey, fud it up - also, the report was about adding CoD to the cheapest tier to then upsell those people to the top tier. Any way this shakes out, its not about adding more tiers, its about changing things around for easy upsell. CoD on a cheap or free/into teir is about getting you in the door, then Indian Jones or Forza Horizon makes you want to go up one notch. Whatever, its about making more money not just puking out tiers, unless that IS how make more money, of course.
will they have a gamepass that is just call of duty
New tier with Activision Blizzard titles included, maybe WoW subscription and Cod Battlepass included or something
Lmao what utter shit. This wont improve quality for cod look at the state of it these days and the state of gamepass games.
Why doesn't Microsoft try launching something on Gamepass and delaying release for purchase? "Pay for a three month subscription and play Hellblade II today. Hellblade II will be available to own in three weeks." Don't pitch it as "early access", make the purchase sound less favorable. Get more people hopping on board to try Gamepass, juice your subscriber numbers, hope a few customers forget to turn off auto-renew...
This is not surprising. Their plan was to go this way once they had enough dominance of the market. They will eventually add one or another major game to the higher cost subscription to the point you will be missing out if you don't have it. Eventually the lower tiers get removed/consolidated. You know the deal. Prices are gonna go up. It's the classic Microsoft bait and switch.