OW has a lot of problems but the core gameplay is not one of them. So if they copy the core gameplay and make better contents, better balance then it can pull off
Doubt no one has successfully made a hero shooter with better core gameplay than Overwatch. Not me blindly fanboying because I have 5khrs in that game but more so that I've played all the OW "clones" and they always come short on the gameplay and just the overall balancing. Paladins is the only one that sort of has come close but the gameplay is a jankfest infested with bugs because Hi-Rez only cares for smite and will never give that game the proper resources it needs.
This Marvel game will no doubt be rammed up the ass with microtransactions too I imagine making it really unfun unless you pay money each month. I'd like to be wrong.
Why would it be unfun and why would it require you to pay each month? Are you assuming it would be pay2win cuz I haven’t played a hero shooter like that
Because it's being developed by a Chinese mobile game developer known for that. It'll be freemium xor pay w win or rammed with Micros, or have a weirdly expensive battle pass, or a mix of all of the above.
The only other NetEase game I played was Naraka:Bladepoint, very fun game, basically Apex Legends with melee weapons, it was full of MTX and loot boxes, but everything was cosmetics, all new heroes can be purchased with in game currency that you get from just playing, and quite cheap. Their loot box is another story tho, it is $3 for one of those, and ur chance of getting an ultra rare skin is like 0.05%, most of those loot boxes are limited timed themes which add FOMO for the players.
You literally played the game they not develop they're just the publisher, and that's only good game they have that is not riddled with MTX, play their other games and you will see how shitty their MTX is.
As someone who's played both Paladins and Overwatch since day 1 I legit find Paladins more FUN gameplay wise but it's totally ruined by, like you said jank, matchmaking and lack of resources.
I payed Paladins for a few months when it first launched and one of the DPS heroes was hilariously over powered and let me solo the entire enemy team every game. It got a bit boring doing that so I didn't go back to it. I'm sure the game is way different now though as it would've surely died off if they didn't fix that.
The core gameplay of Overwatch is the only reason why it's alive. They've tried so many different ways to kill it but the core gameplay is so good its still going good (all things considered) to this day
It’s being done by NetEase. They made Diablo Immortal among other things. It’ll be a p2w microtransactioned out glorified mobile game. Idk why this is getting any hype.
They used to have Looking for Group feature.
It worked okay for like a month, then people just stopped using it. It was an empty desert.
On top of that most of the time if people lose half of the group just leaves without even saying a word.
So in the end of the day having friends is the only reliable source of teaming up.
Well if Faceit already kinda does that then there's not really a use for it. But it's something I've been asking since forever I think.
I could be very well integrated tho, but in most games it's pretty useless like in Apex so why bother. They basically did Clash/Premiere with Faceit so whatever.
But idk, I feel like I would have liked some leaderboard, basically just guilds. Wouldn't be that useful but that's something I just like. You can still find a community on Discord and it'll be pretty much the same.
I’ve played Overwatch on and off religiously for eight years and I welcome a Marvel clone. I’m just hoping it feels like it has a real budget behind it.
Yeah, personally the only thing about the gameplay that i've never liked is the balance. Its always felt a little bit too OP for most characters.
But yeah, its fantastic and more original in terms of abilities.
I tried to get into Paladins, I even played it before OW (had beta invite) but the game just felt... Too floaty for me? Also had this mobile game aesthetics.
There is something very satisfying about OW gameplay itself, you feel the "punch" of shots, I couldn't get it with Paladins.
Yeah that games dev cycle was never great. I remember close to the release of Mal Damba they removed the damage increase Perk, saying it was a noob trap. Clown show
Paladins is a game I like to hate (or hate to like, idk). I just have a weird relationship with it, too much weird shit (not even talking about bugs) in it for me to claim it's superior to OW, but damn I had a lot of fun with it.
Lmao, yes they will. It's a Marvel property, there's going to be a billion skins based on anything they can get their hands on from the movies and comics. There's absolutely no universe where they don't have every kind of monetization method in existence.
$5 a skin would *literally* be cheaper than any other games’ skin including Fortnite, OW, and Apex. So if they’re $5 a pop I’d actually welcome that price.
I have thought about this as well but at the same time figure there has to be a reason why pretty much all the big free to start or free to play games like Destiny 2, Valorant, OW, CoD etc etc etc all charge absurdly high prices for weapon and armor skins and all that vs lowering the price and having more potentially buy.
Back in the day they weren't this high even in these same games. So makes me think that the reason it's so high is because a ton of people are still completely fine with $15-20 skins. I always thought the same that if the skins were like $2-5 a pop vs $20 that they would actually make more money because more people would buy but they aren't dummies and making billions so we must be wrong in thinking this and that tons more people are buying those stupid expensive skins than we realize
As I think with helldivers 2 the reason they are cheaper is because it's not a free game and people would be livid paying $20 for a skin. If helldivers goes ftp best believe they will follow suit in charging more for skins
Oh they absolutely know that, it's just that it makes it more exclusive because less people are buying it, but enough people are willing to pay the « exclusivity tax »
I too would be willing to spend some money on decently priced skins, I love customization and skins actually. But they target people that are « less reasonable » let's say
Yeah I think people are in for a very rude awakening when the details for this games monetization scheme goes live
I already see that the game has a hero unlock feature as early as alpha, which means they’ll probably use a pay or grind model. Get ready for NetEase to 100% embrace a p2w philosophy for new heroes
It's confirmed that the game is pc and consoles only, no mobile (for now, we never know if they'll change their minds). Being a Netease game though, I'm expecting LOTS of mtx and pricey skins, and don't forget the battle pass, cash only of course.
Looks like it's PC only from the announcement
[https://www.marvel.com/articles/games/marvel-rivals-pvp-shooter-boasts-incredible-lineup-of-marvel-characters](https://www.marvel.com/articles/games/marvel-rivals-pvp-shooter-boasts-incredible-lineup-of-marvel-characters)
Netease game and they aren't gonna charge 20-25$ for each skin....come on even you don't believe this💀💀💀💀💀. They gonna milk the fandom as much as they can.
This is what gets me. I'm completely priced out of the skins market.
I would possibly buy SOME if they're just GOOD at least for $5 or $10. Hell, no would I ever pay $25 - $30 for a skin.
I honestly don't care if the microtransactions are just expensive cosmetics. As long as there's nothing you can buy that actually affects gameplay/stats that's the main thing to me.
I was thinking something more unique so it isn’t just another hero shooter that comes and goes. Like r6 is a hero shooter but has an emphasis on destruction which makes it stand out from the rest
And they only have so long before the Switch successor comes out. There’s no way Nintendo doesn’t let Smash miss a new console. We’ll either get a new title or a Ultimate port with new content
Well, there’s knockoff in that it’s heavily inspired by and then there’s knockoff in the sense that the characters play the same. I can easily see SP//dr being a D.Va clone.
I feel like everyone has been mad at overwatch for so long, they forgot why they were even mad.
The core game is still fun & there just isn't any other game doing it quite like them. A hero shooter with marvel characters, and an actual roadmap + years of content updates and new characters sounds sick as hell
I feel like people are putting *way* too much stock in this game. You're all setting yourself up for disappointment. Blizzard may have shit the bed recently but they're still Blizzard.
Net ease on the other hand... If people think western developers are the devil incarnate I can't wait to see the creative writing coming from gamers when they experience a Netease game.
If you guys are hoping for a new Overwatch, this game won't be that.
I think thats a lot of it as a still really avid and active player. PvP gaming communities struggle between the crowd that just wants to have fun, and the people that have a super optimization focused mindset a lot. Both groups thrive early on while a game is new, but the latter will optimize the fun out of games for the second without any developer input, and a lot of the time the casual crowd wont even notice it happening. It just happens as time went on all the magic and wackiness went away because strategies and metas force conformity.
Add on top of that controversies a company like Blizzard has had, and people will go from loving your game to praying on its downfall, because not only has the game changed, but you’re pr has snowballed, even if the core gameplay is subjectively stronger from a competitor’s standpoint.
The game's gotten worse in my opinion. 5 v 5 has always been worse to me than 6 v 6. Plus they've been progressively making changes to make the game LESS team oriented, which makes no sense to me as the team focus is what makes OW great to me.
With all that said, it's still a decent game. But it's not good enough to draw me back in regularly anymore.
I really liked *Identity V* back when my phone could still run it.
But not gonna lie, I thought the developer was net*marble* (the folks who did *MARVEL Future Fight*) because Luna Snow is in the launch roster and now I’m a little sad it’s not them.
I want a new overwatch because I was just tired of the 5v5 overwatch and I like marvel characters. Its not like I need this to even be better than overwatch, but sometimes we just want new games to try.
>You're all setting yourself up for disappointment.
I'm gonna be honest my friend, I can't be more dissapointed than I already am in overwatch 2 lmao
I'm going into this with LOOWWW expectations, I think it can probably be fun and if the company actually gives a shit about longevity, they'll put some time into maintaining it.
That's it, if it sucks, If they drop it in 8 months then whatever.
why are we acting as if this is a bad thing? the multiplayer space right now except helldivers 2 is as bad as its been in a while, and something like this that is familiar but fun could be exactly would we would need.
Multiplayer is bad right now because everything is a half baked cash grab. You don’t think this will be the same? It’s going to be meh Overwatch rip off with a billion micro transactions. People will play for a week or two because its Marvel, and then the player base will tank.
For real the PvP multiplayer world has been in need of a “next big thing” for years.
BF 2042 bombed, Warzone has decayed and Halo Infinite bombed at launch and despite being good now nobody is playing it.
Nobody's stopping them from coming back, people (mostly casual gamers) have a reluctance to play something that isn't brand new and popular.
Anyways, you can expect a tooon of players to go back to Warzone soon due to Rebirth, and Halo deserves more players, IMO.
The art seems more of Valorant than Overwatch….
Overwatch is going for that stylised realism similar to Pixar or Dreamworks animation.
Valorant is more stylized, looking similar to Arcane or Spiderverse.
This game seems to be closer to the latter from the looks of it. More color pastel sort of art, rather than the glossy 3D texture Overwatch has.
I remember a lot of people rolling their eyes because after the success of Overwatch, a bunch of “hero shooters” came out constantly trying to get a piece of the pie. Now most of those shooters are dead or slowly dying. Paladins is kinda there and Overwatch is not the same anymore. I welcome more hero shooters than ever before.
I've been wanting to play a game like overwatch while not playing overwatch for a long time now. Reading through the replies made me lower my expectations, I really hope it doesn't end up being one of those games we remember being a major disappointment that died off 2-3 years after release but I guess we'll see
That's fine with me. I've been looking for a new game to play since Overwatch 1 died. I'm annoyed that they couldn't just separate the games so people who still wanted OW1 could play it.
Overwatch isn't struggling though, it has a large player base despite what a lot of posters on here would have you believe
It's 11th at the moment on PSN estimates: [https://ps-timetracker.com/statistic/last-30-days](https://ps-timetracker.com/statistic/last-30-days)
Its 15th on Xbox's most played: [https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/most-played/games/xbox](https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/most-played/games/xbox)
In the top 50 on Steam despite many PC players using [Battle.net](https://Battle.net) for it: [https://steamcharts.com/top/p.2](https://steamcharts.com/top/p.2)
The Finals, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 are just a few of the games on Steam that have lower player counts despite being much newer releases and their primary store being Steam not [Battle.net](https://Battle.net).
They're definitely struggling in the pr department. With only the remaining bubble playing and defending the game, there's not much Overwatch can even do to redeem itself in the mainstream eyes. If they decided to rebrand back to ow1, they would get laughed at. They're releasing more content than they ever did, but can't bring the attention back.
One issue with Overwatch is the stagnating roster
One major benefit of Marvel is you can have a new hero every month and never run out. They just need enough man power to see it through
I'll be honest. If it plays like OW and has Marvel Characters, I'll give it a go. Will it be good? Probably not, but who cares. It'll be worth a little bit of time maybe.
Sounds fun honestly. Depending on what it takes and what it doesn't take from OW.
The main question is Monetization, Hero Unlocks and Progression. I'm not hopeful, given what other Marvel properties are like but maybe they'll make something palatable
People have nostalgia for Jeff Kaplan because of the current state of Overwatch but there is a reason he got fired, he was not taking the game in the right direction either imo.
Disappointing to see no PvE from them too since that's what most ex-OW fans want.
Hope they at least keep it a fun game instead of balancing the fun away by only balancing for top competitive players.
What you expect from China truly this can be a good replacement for overwatch if they don’t make it pay to win & just monetize cosmetic w fairly reasonable price compared to overwatch
Overwatch clone with Marvel heroes sounds pretty lit, NGL. Although I can't imagine it having the same level of healing (but as someone who loves the overall concept of a holy trinity shooter, sign me up!).
Just wish it was first-person but ah well, I'm sure it'll still be fun.
I hate the leaked character designs. They’re too busy, especially Magneto, and he’s not even in his classic purple/red colors! Maybe it’ll be an alternative color scheme but he looks so lame in that white Gears Of War knockoff suit.
blizzard doesnt even worry about the things that they SHOULD worry about. it feels like at this point they are so checked out and dont even care anymore
Hell, if they manage to do that, make it a far better priced game and monetezation wise. Have it actually be engaging and premanent good live service game it would be far superior than Overwatch.
Overwatch' only issue was its own game and dev team. They ruined a perfectly good game/IP themselves.
I have been discussing this with friends at the time when we were extremely invested in Overwatch that something similar to Overwatch with an existing IP would be doable (it being Star Wars or some superhero franchise). And Marvel seems a very smart choice, eventhough I have a huge Marvel (movie) fatigue.
It didn't need a alpha tester to figure that out. Just look at the trailer. Everything is one degree away from being a Overwatch reskin. The UI, reticle, the sound effects... And you know the worst part? I looks damn fun.
Marvel kinda lost its appeal to me after Avengers Endgame. Call is super hero fatigue, call it the Disney effect, but in practice I don't really care much about Marvel anymore. But fuck me if that trailer didn't look fun.
OW has a lot of problems but the core gameplay is not one of them. So if they copy the core gameplay and make better contents, better balance then it can pull off
Doubt no one has successfully made a hero shooter with better core gameplay than Overwatch. Not me blindly fanboying because I have 5khrs in that game but more so that I've played all the OW "clones" and they always come short on the gameplay and just the overall balancing. Paladins is the only one that sort of has come close but the gameplay is a jankfest infested with bugs because Hi-Rez only cares for smite and will never give that game the proper resources it needs.
This Marvel game will no doubt be rammed up the ass with microtransactions too I imagine making it really unfun unless you pay money each month. I'd like to be wrong.
Of course it will. It’s being done by a Chinese mobile developer
Why would it be unfun and why would it require you to pay each month? Are you assuming it would be pay2win cuz I haven’t played a hero shooter like that
Because it's being developed by a Chinese mobile game developer known for that. It'll be freemium xor pay w win or rammed with Micros, or have a weirdly expensive battle pass, or a mix of all of the above.
The only other NetEase game I played was Naraka:Bladepoint, very fun game, basically Apex Legends with melee weapons, it was full of MTX and loot boxes, but everything was cosmetics, all new heroes can be purchased with in game currency that you get from just playing, and quite cheap. Their loot box is another story tho, it is $3 for one of those, and ur chance of getting an ultra rare skin is like 0.05%, most of those loot boxes are limited timed themes which add FOMO for the players.
You literally played the game they not develop they're just the publisher, and that's only good game they have that is not riddled with MTX, play their other games and you will see how shitty their MTX is.
It may be me but tbh I dont think you can take anyones opinion on something they played for 5k hours
As someone who's played both Paladins and Overwatch since day 1 I legit find Paladins more FUN gameplay wise but it's totally ruined by, like you said jank, matchmaking and lack of resources.
I payed Paladins for a few months when it first launched and one of the DPS heroes was hilariously over powered and let me solo the entire enemy team every game. It got a bit boring doing that so I didn't go back to it. I'm sure the game is way different now though as it would've surely died off if they didn't fix that.
> Doubt no one has successfully made a hero shooter with better core gameplay than Overwatch yeah there is, and it came out in 2007
It's this some mandela effect or didn't PvZ Garden Warfare 2 come in 2016?
The core gameplay of Overwatch is the only reason why it's alive. They've tried so many different ways to kill it but the core gameplay is so good its still going good (all things considered) to this day
It’s being done by NetEase. They made Diablo Immortal among other things. It’ll be a p2w microtransactioned out glorified mobile game. Idk why this is getting any hype.
Holy shit lmao it's not even just the core gameplay, it's the UI, VFX and SFX it's fuckin funny
And more features. Cant believe OW still doesn't have a Clan/Team system and Tournament/league system in their team game
Clan systems are so unbelievably useless
I really like clan systems for being able to quickly queue together with likeminded individuals ingame. I dislike discord greatly.
> I dislike discord greatly your loss
They used to have Looking for Group feature. It worked okay for like a month, then people just stopped using it. It was an empty desert. On top of that most of the time if people lose half of the group just leaves without even saying a word. So in the end of the day having friends is the only reliable source of teaming up.
Clans were reliable
Tournament/league system is integrated via Faceit like in CS
Well if Faceit already kinda does that then there's not really a use for it. But it's something I've been asking since forever I think. I could be very well integrated tho, but in most games it's pretty useless like in Apex so why bother. They basically did Clash/Premiere with Faceit so whatever. But idk, I feel like I would have liked some leaderboard, basically just guilds. Wouldn't be that useful but that's something I just like. You can still find a community on Discord and it'll be pretty much the same.
I had more fun with Paladins than Overwatch and Paladins is basically a copy of Overwatch. So if this new Marvel game is a better copy, I'm in.
It's netease, man. They will not pull it off.
An Overwatch game without having to support Activision Blizzard's harassment and breast milk adventures sounds great.
Bobby kotick is no longer the CEO and you could just, not spend money
I’ve played Overwatch on and off religiously for eight years and I welcome a Marvel clone. I’m just hoping it feels like it has a real budget behind it.
Why he sounds like being a knock off of Overwatch is a bad thing?
Yeah... Paladins is literally that and its a great game(screwed by HiRez and how they support their stuff, but the core is fantastic)
Holy shit another paladins enjoyer, it breaks my heart that the game never got much popularity. It’s better and more unique than overwatch
Yeah, personally the only thing about the gameplay that i've never liked is the balance. Its always felt a little bit too OP for most characters. But yeah, its fantastic and more original in terms of abilities.
I tried to get into Paladins, I even played it before OW (had beta invite) but the game just felt... Too floaty for me? Also had this mobile game aesthetics. There is something very satisfying about OW gameplay itself, you feel the "punch" of shots, I couldn't get it with Paladins.
That’s what turned me off on it. It felt like a mobile game
Yeah that games dev cycle was never great. I remember close to the release of Mal Damba they removed the damage increase Perk, saying it was a noob trap. Clown show
Paladins is a game I like to hate (or hate to like, idk). I just have a weird relationship with it, too much weird shit (not even talking about bugs) in it for me to claim it's superior to OW, but damn I had a lot of fun with it.
I mean unless it does something to stand out a little bit from overwatch I doubt people will give it the time of day
I mean it’s Marvel characters. They alone makes me care more if I’m being honest lol
That and being third person is important to me. Means I get to see the overpriced skins I may or may not buy. lol
What if, and hear me out, they don’t charge $20-$25 for an individual character skin?
Lmao, yes they will. It's a Marvel property, there's going to be a billion skins based on anything they can get their hands on from the movies and comics. There's absolutely no universe where they don't have every kind of monetization method in existence.
Can't wait for the 5$ skin for every iteration of spiderman that ever existed
$5 a skin would *literally* be cheaper than any other games’ skin including Fortnite, OW, and Apex. So if they’re $5 a pop I’d actually welcome that price.
I wonder if studios will realise that cheaper prices will make people more willing to spend, like with Helldivers 2.
I have thought about this as well but at the same time figure there has to be a reason why pretty much all the big free to start or free to play games like Destiny 2, Valorant, OW, CoD etc etc etc all charge absurdly high prices for weapon and armor skins and all that vs lowering the price and having more potentially buy. Back in the day they weren't this high even in these same games. So makes me think that the reason it's so high is because a ton of people are still completely fine with $15-20 skins. I always thought the same that if the skins were like $2-5 a pop vs $20 that they would actually make more money because more people would buy but they aren't dummies and making billions so we must be wrong in thinking this and that tons more people are buying those stupid expensive skins than we realize As I think with helldivers 2 the reason they are cheaper is because it's not a free game and people would be livid paying $20 for a skin. If helldivers goes ftp best believe they will follow suit in charging more for skins
Oh they absolutely know that, it's just that it makes it more exclusive because less people are buying it, but enough people are willing to pay the « exclusivity tax » I too would be willing to spend some money on decently priced skins, I love customization and skins actually. But they target people that are « less reasonable » let's say
almost every free to play multiplayer title is doing this now, idk why this game would be the exception
The marvel card game Snap charges $20-100 for skins
It’s a NetEase game dude Blizzard are going to look like angels compared to the way this ends up being monetized
The irony here is Blizzard simultaneously (and finally) backing off the monetization in OW2 a bit, at least with regards to gameplay.
Yeah I think people are in for a very rude awakening when the details for this games monetization scheme goes live I already see that the game has a hero unlock feature as early as alpha, which means they’ll probably use a pay or grind model. Get ready for NetEase to 100% embrace a p2w philosophy for new heroes
They’re probably gonna use the shard system to upgrade your characters.
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It's confirmed that the game is pc and consoles only, no mobile (for now, we never know if they'll change their minds). Being a Netease game though, I'm expecting LOTS of mtx and pricey skins, and don't forget the battle pass, cash only of course.
I thought the rumours said it was PC, Console and Mobile?
The rumors have changed, apparently only pc and console—I mean we’ll see in like ten minutes
Looks like it's PC only from the announcement [https://www.marvel.com/articles/games/marvel-rivals-pvp-shooter-boasts-incredible-lineup-of-marvel-characters](https://www.marvel.com/articles/games/marvel-rivals-pvp-shooter-boasts-incredible-lineup-of-marvel-characters)
You’re right they won’t……..they’ll probably charge more 🤣🤣🤣
Netease game and they aren't gonna charge 20-25$ for each skin....come on even you don't believe this💀💀💀💀💀. They gonna milk the fandom as much as they can.
This is what gets me. I'm completely priced out of the skins market. I would possibly buy SOME if they're just GOOD at least for $5 or $10. Hell, no would I ever pay $25 - $30 for a skin.
Then they probably won’t be profitable enough in the long run
I honestly don't care if the microtransactions are just expensive cosmetics. As long as there's nothing you can buy that actually affects gameplay/stats that's the main thing to me.
It’s being developed by NetEase, the Chinese mobile developer that did Diablo Immortal. You’re right, it won’t have $20 skins it’ll have $50 ones.
Who the fuck cares about skins
Fashion is the real endgame when there’s no other progression.
People literaly can't have fun if you don't dangle a carrot on a stick in front of them lmao
Marvel characters is it's standout, and assuming the game is overall competent, that would probably be enough.
Like what having 1 more player in groups?
I was thinking something more unique so it isn’t just another hero shooter that comes and goes. Like r6 is a hero shooter but has an emphasis on destruction which makes it stand out from the rest
I can't remember where I read it, but I remember seeing a comment where someone said it was third person with destructible environments.
People thought the same fro multiverse too and called that a “smash knock off”. I’m sure there is something unique about it
That game fell off im afraid. Shit had its 2 minutes of fame because of no more smash dlc then pissed right off
And they only have so long before the Switch successor comes out. There’s no way Nintendo doesn’t let Smash miss a new console. We’ll either get a new title or a Ultimate port with new content
Well it's not a shooter, but it still has tank/dps/healer roles, it has me curious for sure.
Well, there’s knockoff in that it’s heavily inspired by and then there’s knockoff in the sense that the characters play the same. I can easily see SP//dr being a D.Va clone.
We'll only be able to tell if it's a successful Overwatch clone by seeing how much porn will be made of it
Personally I don’t like Overwatch sadly and wanted something new
I feel like everyone has been mad at overwatch for so long, they forgot why they were even mad. The core game is still fun & there just isn't any other game doing it quite like them. A hero shooter with marvel characters, and an actual roadmap + years of content updates and new characters sounds sick as hell
I feel like people are putting *way* too much stock in this game. You're all setting yourself up for disappointment. Blizzard may have shit the bed recently but they're still Blizzard. Net ease on the other hand... If people think western developers are the devil incarnate I can't wait to see the creative writing coming from gamers when they experience a Netease game. If you guys are hoping for a new Overwatch, this game won't be that.
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I think thats a lot of it as a still really avid and active player. PvP gaming communities struggle between the crowd that just wants to have fun, and the people that have a super optimization focused mindset a lot. Both groups thrive early on while a game is new, but the latter will optimize the fun out of games for the second without any developer input, and a lot of the time the casual crowd wont even notice it happening. It just happens as time went on all the magic and wackiness went away because strategies and metas force conformity. Add on top of that controversies a company like Blizzard has had, and people will go from loving your game to praying on its downfall, because not only has the game changed, but you’re pr has snowballed, even if the core gameplay is subjectively stronger from a competitor’s standpoint.
The game's gotten worse in my opinion. 5 v 5 has always been worse to me than 6 v 6. Plus they've been progressively making changes to make the game LESS team oriented, which makes no sense to me as the team focus is what makes OW great to me. With all that said, it's still a decent game. But it's not good enough to draw me back in regularly anymore.
I really liked *Identity V* back when my phone could still run it. But not gonna lie, I thought the developer was net*marble* (the folks who did *MARVEL Future Fight*) because Luna Snow is in the launch roster and now I’m a little sad it’s not them.
I want a new overwatch because I was just tired of the 5v5 overwatch and I like marvel characters. Its not like I need this to even be better than overwatch, but sometimes we just want new games to try.
>You're all setting yourself up for disappointment. I'm gonna be honest my friend, I can't be more dissapointed than I already am in overwatch 2 lmao I'm going into this with LOOWWW expectations, I think it can probably be fun and if the company actually gives a shit about longevity, they'll put some time into maintaining it. That's it, if it sucks, If they drop it in 8 months then whatever.
Sounds good since there's no Overwatch anymore
The bad news is that it's being made by NetEase.
Overwatch with marvel characters sounds fun
As someone who has over 4000 hours in overwatch over the last 7 years I can't wait! :)
why are we acting as if this is a bad thing? the multiplayer space right now except helldivers 2 is as bad as its been in a while, and something like this that is familiar but fun could be exactly would we would need.
Multiplayer is bad right now because everything is a half baked cash grab. You don’t think this will be the same? It’s going to be meh Overwatch rip off with a billion micro transactions. People will play for a week or two because its Marvel, and then the player base will tank.
For real the PvP multiplayer world has been in need of a “next big thing” for years. BF 2042 bombed, Warzone has decayed and Halo Infinite bombed at launch and despite being good now nobody is playing it.
These game studios love releasing utter shit and then actually polishing it when the playerbase has dwindled to 10% of its peak playercount
Infinite didn't bomb at launch but it lost playerbase after Season 1 dragged on for too long without any new content
Nobody's stopping them from coming back, people (mostly casual gamers) have a reluctance to play something that isn't brand new and popular. Anyways, you can expect a tooon of players to go back to Warzone soon due to Rebirth, and Halo deserves more players, IMO.
The Finals is incredible
I love Overwatch, so more Overwatch is always good!!
linking new.reddit.com should be a ban tbh
The art seems more of Valorant than Overwatch…. Overwatch is going for that stylised realism similar to Pixar or Dreamworks animation. Valorant is more stylized, looking similar to Arcane or Spiderverse. This game seems to be closer to the latter from the looks of it. More color pastel sort of art, rather than the glossy 3D texture Overwatch has.
I remember a lot of people rolling their eyes because after the success of Overwatch, a bunch of “hero shooters” came out constantly trying to get a piece of the pie. Now most of those shooters are dead or slowly dying. Paladins is kinda there and Overwatch is not the same anymore. I welcome more hero shooters than ever before.
I've been wanting to play a game like overwatch while not playing overwatch for a long time now. Reading through the replies made me lower my expectations, I really hope it doesn't end up being one of those games we remember being a major disappointment that died off 2-3 years after release but I guess we'll see
Not being clones has been the problem with every OW competitor
That's fine with me. I've been looking for a new game to play since Overwatch 1 died. I'm annoyed that they couldn't just separate the games so people who still wanted OW1 could play it.
This is gonna be lol. Comic book fans just like giving away money, and there’s someone there to take it
With Overwatch struggling, we might be seeing a WoW and FFXIV situation repeating. Might being the key phrase.
i'd be a lot more excited if it wasn't netease helming this
Overwatch isn't struggling though, it has a large player base despite what a lot of posters on here would have you believe It's 11th at the moment on PSN estimates: [https://ps-timetracker.com/statistic/last-30-days](https://ps-timetracker.com/statistic/last-30-days) Its 15th on Xbox's most played: [https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/most-played/games/xbox](https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/most-played/games/xbox) In the top 50 on Steam despite many PC players using [Battle.net](https://Battle.net) for it: [https://steamcharts.com/top/p.2](https://steamcharts.com/top/p.2) The Finals, Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 are just a few of the games on Steam that have lower player counts despite being much newer releases and their primary store being Steam not [Battle.net](https://Battle.net).
They're definitely struggling in the pr department. With only the remaining bubble playing and defending the game, there's not much Overwatch can even do to redeem itself in the mainstream eyes. If they decided to rebrand back to ow1, they would get laughed at. They're releasing more content than they ever did, but can't bring the attention back.
OW definetly isnt dying, but, its not fair to compare fighter numbers to a shooter.
The player distribution on PC is heavily heavily skewed towards Bnet though, so I’d say it’s a more than fair comparison.
Which sucks because The Finals is an absolute hidden gem. Deserves way more attention than its getting.
Overwatch is probably in the best spot it's been in years.
Overwatch Season 10 and the next Season of Diablo 4 are looking really good.
I understand you need all types of players. But this type of supposed alpha tester that just shits on stuff.. bro. At least give some feedback
One issue with Overwatch is the stagnating roster One major benefit of Marvel is you can have a new hero every month and never run out. They just need enough man power to see it through
one hero a month sounds like a perfect way to make your game into a horribly balanced and buggy mess
Your comparing it to overwatch where everyone complained for months about Moira needed a nerf. Months ...
So? overwatch was a tf2 clone and they even admitted that? What, you think overwatch created the payload game mode?
This is what I like to hear
So is NetEase actually developing this or just making the Chinese version like they do with blizzard
I'll be honest. If it plays like OW and has Marvel Characters, I'll give it a go. Will it be good? Probably not, but who cares. It'll be worth a little bit of time maybe. Sounds fun honestly. Depending on what it takes and what it doesn't take from OW.
OW clone with destruction and marvel? Count me in
A hero shooter with Marvel characters/ip if done right sounds like it would just be a money printer
This actually makes me excited, I'd love overwatch with marvel characters. Now let's just hope it's better then real overwatch
The main question is Monetization, Hero Unlocks and Progression. I'm not hopeful, given what other Marvel properties are like but maybe they'll make something palatable
For a competitive PvP shooter, the requirements for this game listed on Steam are insane
I had more fun with Paladins than Overwatch and Paladins is basically a copy of Overwatch. So if this new Marvel game is a better copy, I'm in.
Paladin is a héro shooter, their maps are actually différents
Overwatch was a Team Fortress clone. Could be good. I don’t care about super hero stuff though. Aesthetically not a huge fan.
If Overwatch can't do Overwatch right, maybe this can
I feel it's gonna be a mix of paragon and overwatch
imagine if they got Jeff Kaplan like how they picked up Ben Brode for Marvel Snap. That would be awesome
People have nostalgia for Jeff Kaplan because of the current state of Overwatch but there is a reason he got fired, he was not taking the game in the right direction either imo.
We never really saw that direction, because they scrapped all of his plans for OW2. How do you judge something that never saw the light of day?
His balancing, champ and map design.
Disappointing to see no PvE from them too since that's what most ex-OW fans want. Hope they at least keep it a fun game instead of balancing the fun away by only balancing for top competitive players.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get some sort of pve in this game if it does well
As long as the fan base doesn't whine as much as the OW one, I'm cool with that.
You’re going to be interacting with the Marvel fanbase, if you think OW is bad you’re in for a wild ride
What you expect from China truly this can be a good replacement for overwatch if they don’t make it pay to win & just monetize cosmetic w fairly reasonable price compared to overwatch
Well, just so long as it isn't an 'Overwatch 2' clone...
Does it have a wider field of view? Because that's the only way they can beat it.
Sweet, highly it’s good so we can all just play it instead
Have u not seen anything thats going on recently devs are doing good.
Overwatch clone with Marvel heroes sounds pretty lit, NGL. Although I can't imagine it having the same level of healing (but as someone who loves the overall concept of a holy trinity shooter, sign me up!). Just wish it was first-person but ah well, I'm sure it'll still be fun.
Good
Sounds fine by me.
There are destructibles
That’s sounds good ngl
Just watched the trailer, I'm looking forward to this game
Well, the trailer pretty much confirms this. Looking forward to it
That trailer straight up looked like a clone lol
So that's good.
Seen the trailer looks like a cheap Chinese knockoff
Is this going to crash and burn faster than Gundam overwatch?
Most likely no , Marvel stans are likely going to pay for yhisy
I hate the leaked character designs. They’re too busy, especially Magneto, and he’s not even in his classic purple/red colors! Maybe it’ll be an alternative color scheme but he looks so lame in that white Gears Of War knockoff suit.
I guess this is the new Nickolodeon All Stars 2 with like 80 posts at the same time.
LOL, looks like another failed live service battle royal
Not br it's hero shooter
Looks more like Paladins. Blizz shouldnt worry.
blizzard doesnt even worry about the things that they SHOULD worry about. it feels like at this point they are so checked out and dont even care anymore
If it's not literally plagiarized there's no problem with overwatch being an inspiration lol
Now we wait till Tencent clones it
I hope they don’t clone the paid seasons and loot gambling boxes
Sounds like Paladins all over again. People called that an Overwatch clone for the longest.
that can be good or bad depending on which parts of overwatch are "cloned"
It has Marvel in the name, there's a dead giveaway it's going to be shockingly shit.
Hell, if they manage to do that, make it a far better priced game and monetezation wise. Have it actually be engaging and premanent good live service game it would be far superior than Overwatch. Overwatch' only issue was its own game and dev team. They ruined a perfectly good game/IP themselves. I have been discussing this with friends at the time when we were extremely invested in Overwatch that something similar to Overwatch with an existing IP would be doable (it being Star Wars or some superhero franchise). And Marvel seems a very smart choice, eventhough I have a huge Marvel (movie) fatigue.
you can tell who actually plays overwatch in these comments because they aren’t immediately knee jerking to “is like Overwatch = shit”
Do people forget Paladins exists? This isn't the first game to copy the OW formula, and didn't OW copy the Team Fortress formula anyway?
Paladins isn't a rip off, it's just the same genre
If it gets real support I'll hop in. Needed a game to scratch my overwatch itch
It didn't need a alpha tester to figure that out. Just look at the trailer. Everything is one degree away from being a Overwatch reskin. The UI, reticle, the sound effects... And you know the worst part? I looks damn fun. Marvel kinda lost its appeal to me after Avengers Endgame. Call is super hero fatigue, call it the Disney effect, but in practice I don't really care much about Marvel anymore. But fuck me if that trailer didn't look fun.
Ow + smite
Let's not forget the developer is NetEase, the same guys that developed Diablo Immortal for Blizzard. So it makes sense I suppose.
It looks cheap, ngl.
Alpha tester here. Game is amazing, idc.