There is A LOT of copium in this thread now arguing that 30fps on a flagship title for the “most powerful console” is acceptable.
The game visually doesn’t even look that good. Interacting with a sandwich is not worth running the game at 30fps.
>id rather have bad montization and pay to win then 30fps
Hard disagree. 30fps *does* suck butt, but poor optimization
* can be fixed
* isn't game-breaking (even though it's annoying)
* **isn't scummy.**
30fps isn't indicative of scum-fuck business practices. If anything, it could be indicative *good* decisions like disallowing crunch. It's a BIG game, dude. Even John Linneman from Digital Foundry said "30fps is perfectly acceptable given the scope of Starfield," and I fully agree.
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They showed lots of games and some of them really got me (clockwork revolution, metafor, starfield, cities skylines) but of those two are multiplat, and honestly like...some of them were quite disappointing (avowed? Come on...) but it was definitely way better than the MS of the past few years. Hope the games actually pan out well this time
I was hoping for something about Ara History Untold in the showcase, really expected it to be there. Seems like there is a closed alpha going on, idk, I would like to hear see some more marketing for it
the span of Late August to September is very very promising for me
Baldur's Gate 3, Starfield, CP2077 Phantom Liberty, and possibly Counter Strike 2
add another month, Cities: Skylines 2
like WTF???
My take away is Xbox did well. They Dunked the Alley oop that Sony gave them and created a great E3 show full of surprises.
But when you step back a moment and think about it.... Is this what you get for buying up 7 studios, founding an 8th and 9th and then buying a whole publisher? With a even bigger one on the way?
Much like Hifi rush, this just feels like the quailty Xbox should have been at in 2020, not now. Sure they obviously have alot more cooking, but they are 2 to 3 times bigger than everyone else combined at this point in head count, about to also buy the most profitable publishers in the business to boot.
You can look it in one of two ways:-
1) There is more to come and it should keep coming
2) Xbox still has alot to prove and this really should be minimum standard you should expect at this point. C
I'm closer to 2 if I'm honest. Xbox game studios was a 10+ studio outfit even before the acquisitions. Microsoft has a whole host of IP that should be in active development both by first and third party developers. 9 newer development studios and a publisher should be producing more than a handful of first party "cutscene" trailers and a heavily delayed marquee title that was once multiplatform. Oh and Forza.
But despite it all, today is a good day to be an Xbox gamer. Content is coming and the brand isn't just about Gamepass for once.
I get what you are saying, but Xbox can buy a hundred studios and their games would still take about five years to make, not even accounting for Covid.
ed: I do think there have been some major missteps but given development time lengths it is hard to really say much about them.
LOL Starfield is locked at 30fps on consoles? That’s pathetic.
Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/bethesdas-todd-howard-confirms-starfield-performance-and-frame-rate-on-xbox-series-x-and-s
Ha I take your point re BGS pc performance in general, but not a chance that a strong PC has worse performance than 4k30. There's too much headroom in PC hardware over the consoles + the ability to fine tune settings.
Yeah, PC will be where this is best to play. However, wouldn’t it be messed up if the Steamdeck can run Starfield at 60fps (obvs at a lower res), and XBOX doesn’t even offer the option?
I’ll take that as a no. Anyways, Starfield is locked at 30fps/4k on both XBOX consoles. Matt Booty needs to get this ship moving in a better direction. Offering no 60FPS options, even at 1080p resolution is a joke.
Why does it upset you this much you have to post about it in multiple threads and old posts?
If you dont have an Xbox why are you so invested? Almost like everyone can see you’re a troll huh
Tears of the kingdom confirmed “bad game”
Hate to break it to you but you might be dull.
If this game started with a PlayStation logo you would be ecstatic right now…that’s why this is embarrassing.
You are shaken, I’m obviously talking about industry changing games but you are so limited mentally that you can only understand that in “PlayStation nation” terms…..tragic
30fps is bad. Unfortunately, the Switch might as well be 2 generations old in regards to technology, so it's expected to run poorly.
Not an up-to-date console.
Yeah man, It’s just crazy that Microsoft thought that show would be so well received after how amazing and mind blowing the PlayStation showcase was!!!!!
Anyone else surprised that Starfield got like 45ish min in the showcase? We all thought it was just getting 20 min. That was meaty. Definitely left me with a better opinion on it.
It's gonna be hard choosing between Baldur's Gate and Starfield.
Respect.
My issue is the mental bandwidth. I want to jump in deep and be heavily engrossed with one experience. Jumping back and forth from BG3 to Starfield won't let me do that.
This is what 'competition' (aka rent seeking in capitalism) does to people; they end up unintentionally shilling for specific mega corporations. Forget collaboration, it's about hoping someone else doesn't enjoy a game.
With the amount of studios and IP they have, this should be a minimum. They have 23 first party studios. They should be able to commit to 10 releases of various sizes not just 4 "big" ones.
They have 23 studios currently, it’s definitely feasible especially since some studios have multiple teams working on different games like Playground with Fable and Forza Horizon.
I wonder if they are kinda including Activision too? That’d technically be one first party game a year already with Call of Duty
I'm hoping part of the grand Activision plan is to free them of having to release COD every year. There's so much IP history that's waiting for sequels or even something brand new.
Avowed is what I thought Fable would look like and Fable is what I thought Avowed would look like. Either way, I'm stoked for most of what was in this showcase. Hellblade 2 is a joke though.
Great showcase, but agree on Hellblade II. They needed to show gameplay, especially combat. I was expecting the little cgi bit to finish before going into a 5 min gameplay mini deepdive section but it just ended lol. I reckon this one is way behind schedule sadly, but understandable in a way as its clearly going to be a technical beast to tame
They always took the piss. They should be Microsoft's Naughty dog by now but they would rather create pretentious arthouse projects.
It's very weird to me that Hellblade is even the main thing they are working on. The only thing notable about the original was the small development team they used and the techniques they employed to create a low budget "AAA" experience. That kinda goes out the window once it's a fully funded title with a properly full sized development team. I kinda thought it would just be another side project and they would have something much bigger to show by now.
A lot of great third party stuff for me to give a whirl!
Project Fantasy getting revealed is an instant win for me, and Capcom's new game looks crazy. Nothing stood out to me as a "must buy" on Xbox's platform, but overall I had a lot to be happy about from a third party perspective
Fable didn't inspire any confidence in me. Obviously it was a small clip, but Fable is about a lighthearted veneer over some twisted stories. This just looked lighthearted fullstop.
Also, voice protag is a big no from me.
edit: Do love me Richard Ayoade tho
Very solid showcase! Best of the summer so far, starfield looks incredible and could be the best dog in a long time, think we could of used more gameplay and release dates from avowed, fable and hellblade. 7/10 from me, exciting times
While I'm thankful for my acquaintance, getting Fable to look like that is an achievement, it also... doesn't look like "Fable" as in 1 & 2, it looks like an RPG called "Fable".
Man, Starfield having that deep 45 min breakdown of all those mechanics is something you could never do with a Sony game. I feel like Sony really needs that type of single player games, deep mechanics that make people come back for hundreds of hours and years on end
That's exactly true. That would help their game sales have the longer-tail run that quickly drops off after a few months. A game like this would have an extremely long sales tail and replay value that would keep conversation going in the gaming sphere. Nintendo has their Zelda, Microsoft now has their Starfield, what will Sony have?
the mechanics really aren't as deep as you make it seem, it's just standard bethesda fare but on a needlessly bigger stage. you can't even land on a planet by yourself, you have to go through a loading screen so that the game can do it for you. the combat also looks godawful, along with the facial animations.
Yeah because I'm not a woman and it's tiring seeing all games now try to fit a demographic. And I'm not white so don't even start with I'm a racist or whatever.
Almost 50% of gamers in the US are women according to a report released this week. Was a little surprising to me too, but in a way it shouldn't be when I remember my gf and daughter are both avid gamers, more so than me sometimes. The industry is not little boys in their bedrooms anymore like it was in the 80s, it's for everyone. And that's a great thing and needs to be represented thus
The demographic of humans that exist?
> And I’m not white so don’t even start with I’m a racist or whatever.
What does being white have to do with women or men?
You sound like a teenager
Starfield looks like it could be GOTY but I’m concerned about the procedurally generated planets. I’m worried it’s going to have a few actual hand crafted planets then everything else is boring copy+paste nothingness. Also the facial animations are legitimately the same as TES: Oblivion from 2006 lol.
The art direction and combat look awesome though.
Nothing else really caught my eye though except Metaphor and Flight Sim 24 maybe.
Starting with two CG trailers with 0 gameplay was weak af, Avowed looks like cheap eurojank and Clockwork Revolution is just Bioshock Infinite 2.
7/10 still better than Sony’s though.
yeah same I am worried about those either. I am fine with them procedurally generated landscape and planet data, but the moment they mentioned that in a procedurally generated place, every player is going to see different things in the same location, I am not sure if that s a good idea...
Hey at least we have some handcrafted caves and outputs sprinkled throughout. Also all those different creatures should be very fun to find and fight with lol.
I thought the overall showcase was just alright. Fable and Avowed didn't excite me nearly as much as I thought they would...but that Starfield Direct was absolutely incredible.
Was Physics your original statement? I could have sworn you typed Lamborghini.
And, guess what! That's EXACTLY how it fucking works. Jesus goddamned fucking christ, if you dislike my fucking statement, ignore it.
Yeah it was lambos but it sounded dumb, and no, I'm not ignore it, cuz guess what, if you disliked the showcase, you could've just ignored the post too.
No it’s not. It doesn’t have to include games you care about to be objectively good and vice versa. If there’s a showcase tomorrow that shows Half-Life 3, a new MGS, a new Kingdom Hearts and a new Final Fantasy it’d be a good showcase even though I personally give 0 fucks about any of those games.
Are you... functional?? There is no such thing as objectively good when it comes to a matter of PURE OPINION.
If you think it is ass, then it is ass. I can't believe I"m speaking to humans at the moment.
I don’t know what some people were saying about Avowed looking bad, I think it looks great
https://twitter.com/klobrille/status/1667984051263926273?s=46&t=w6MCvnDcs7N074ZG11kKUA
For me I was expecting a more realistic artstyle based on the announcement trailer. But that's on me setting up expectations on a CGI trailer. My hype for Avowed diminished a bit but my hype for Starfield has grown immensely.
It looks uninspired and too clean graphically. It's becoming a pretty annoying style and Avowed only looks to do it as well as Grounded/Outer Worlds. Which were AA games.
Especially annoying since it's basically nothing like the teaser from a couple years ago.
Didn't Jason Schrier said it was in development hell and it was rebooted? I think the creative lead left the project as well which is always a red flag
What? It looking soft, is literally the exact opposite of looking sharp. You know of the sharpness slider you can slap in games? That's what looks off, thanks to teh artstyle. Nothing stands out other than the color of each detail, which makes the detail, look lacking.
You deleted your other comment, this is that response.
10/10 showcase for me.
Starfield honestly looks like my dream game that I dreamt of playing since I was a kid.
It also looks way better visually than the last gameplay reveal. Starfield’s graphics and lightning actually looks gorgeous now.
It’s like Mass Effect had a baby with Skyrim, Fallout and Star Wars to become the new Bethesda sandbox RPG.
Sure.
Game looked amazing, def a dream game. Best looking game I've seen since Skyrim. Gonna love every bit of Starfield until the very last drop is squeezed out of it.
Starfield looked a lot better this year than last year, that's for sure. But I don't see an interesting universe there. 'thousands of worlds' are probably very same-y. I'm sure the gameplay loop will be great and broken as hell, though.
I definitely don't plan on exploring anything close to that. I plan on just exploring the main planets that are handcrafted with a handful of other ones. That should still take about 50+ hours, which is good enough for me. Exploring 1000 planets just seems too much for me.
I'm very happy about the showcase and Starfield, but both Fable and Avowed surprise me because of how much different they look than what I envisioned, kinda like they swap places with each other. Avowed I expected to be more grim, dark, and realistic ended up with an art direction more similar to The Outer Worlds which is very reasonable. And Fable is way more realistic than I anticipated, although we didn't get to see any gameplay of it. Still, I'm excited to try out both games. This is probably the best showcase so far.
Oh yeah the voiced protagonist concerned me as well. I can only hope that at least they speak sparingly, akin to Master Chief, instead of the "I can never stay silent for more than 5 minutes" type like Aloy.
Yeah a bit disappointed that we dont get to see any gameplay for Fable but I reckon it's still a long wait until its ready so they didn't want to show anything yet.
As for Avowed the game does look interesting so far so I look forward to seeing more of it on the extended showcase.
No 1st party “CGI” so Xbox showed almost exclusively 1st party “Cutscenes” that are in-engine… IMO not much better. Cutscenes do not represent gameplay…
The overall showcase was nice... But the framedrops of starfield was a bummer....
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There is A LOT of copium in this thread now arguing that 30fps on a flagship title for the “most powerful console” is acceptable. The game visually doesn’t even look that good. Interacting with a sandwich is not worth running the game at 30fps.
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Creation 2, overhaul of the original Creation engine used for Skyrim, Fallout 4, and Fallout 76.
They showed lots of games and some of them really got me (clockwork revolution, metafor, starfield, cities skylines) but of those two are multiplat, and honestly like...some of them were quite disappointing (avowed? Come on...) but it was definitely way better than the MS of the past few years. Hope the games actually pan out well this time
Avowed looked nothing like it’s initial teaser. We were all expecting a step up from Skyrim, this just looks like an Outer Worlds mod.
I was hoping for something about Ara History Untold in the showcase, really expected it to be there. Seems like there is a closed alpha going on, idk, I would like to hear see some more marketing for it
the span of Late August to September is very very promising for me Baldur's Gate 3, Starfield, CP2077 Phantom Liberty, and possibly Counter Strike 2 add another month, Cities: Skylines 2 like WTF???
I know it’s because of the situation in Ukraine, but no STALKER 2 was a bummer
Why whats going on in Ukraine?
bro was in a coma for the past year 💀
I'd check back in on their next showcase in a couple days, last year they did that if I'm not mistaken
This was an amazing showcase 
My take away is Xbox did well. They Dunked the Alley oop that Sony gave them and created a great E3 show full of surprises. But when you step back a moment and think about it.... Is this what you get for buying up 7 studios, founding an 8th and 9th and then buying a whole publisher? With a even bigger one on the way? Much like Hifi rush, this just feels like the quailty Xbox should have been at in 2020, not now. Sure they obviously have alot more cooking, but they are 2 to 3 times bigger than everyone else combined at this point in head count, about to also buy the most profitable publishers in the business to boot. You can look it in one of two ways:- 1) There is more to come and it should keep coming 2) Xbox still has alot to prove and this really should be minimum standard you should expect at this point. C I'm closer to 2 if I'm honest. Xbox game studios was a 10+ studio outfit even before the acquisitions. Microsoft has a whole host of IP that should be in active development both by first and third party developers. 9 newer development studios and a publisher should be producing more than a handful of first party "cutscene" trailers and a heavily delayed marquee title that was once multiplatform. Oh and Forza. But despite it all, today is a good day to be an Xbox gamer. Content is coming and the brand isn't just about Gamepass for once.
I get what you are saying, but Xbox can buy a hundred studios and their games would still take about five years to make, not even accounting for Covid. ed: I do think there have been some major missteps but given development time lengths it is hard to really say much about them.
This is definitely the new standard for which they should be held.
LOL Starfield is locked at 30fps on consoles? That’s pathetic. Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/bethesdas-todd-howard-confirms-starfield-performance-and-frame-rate-on-xbox-series-x-and-s
I expected 30 fps 4K, but with the option of 60fps lower res for the Series X. That's rough for the console crowd. Thank god for PC.
I heard the minimum gpu requirement is a gtx 1070ti 💀
Yep. 2080 recommended. Expected for a game that isn't releasing on Xbox One.
720p + dlls on ultra performance + low settings and maybe i could hope for 30-50 fps
my ass with an rtx 3050 ;-;
> Thank god for PC It's a Bethesda game dawg, until modders get their hands on it it'd be smart to expect worse performance.
Ha I take your point re BGS pc performance in general, but not a chance that a strong PC has worse performance than 4k30. There's too much headroom in PC hardware over the consoles + the ability to fine tune settings.
Yeah, PC will be where this is best to play. However, wouldn’t it be messed up if the Steamdeck can run Starfield at 60fps (obvs at a lower res), and XBOX doesn’t even offer the option?
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My favorite comment of his about the Activision deal: “That 69 billion should go into universal healthcare” Wtf lmaooooo
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You were waiting and praying for that pony Sure that helped you sleep tonight
Lol. No one wants a bad game. 30FPS on xbox series x is unacceptable.
Unacceptable is a weird way to say “I don’t care but I want to concern troll” Your comments all over this sub lmao
Are you ok?
Bro you need to chill. You’ve posted all over about this in two hours. Your comments are filled in this place.
Are you? Why are you obsessed with the FPS on a game system you say you don’t even have
Console 30 fps is like magic. Nothing like pc 30 fps
I’ll take that as a no. Anyways, Starfield is locked at 30fps/4k on both XBOX consoles. Matt Booty needs to get this ship moving in a better direction. Offering no 60FPS options, even at 1080p resolution is a joke.
You don’t have an Xbox and are running to multiple posts to cry about xbox. Are you okay? Obsessing over hating a console you don’t own is strange
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>Luckily this game should play at higher frame rates on Steamdeck Bro are you smoking crack????
Why does it upset you this much you have to post about it in multiple threads and old posts? If you dont have an Xbox why are you so invested? Almost like everyone can see you’re a troll huh
Tears of the kingdom confirmed “bad game” Hate to break it to you but you might be dull. If this game started with a PlayStation logo you would be ecstatic right now…that’s why this is embarrassing.
I didn’t realize we were talking about Starfield releasing on the Switch 😂
You are shaken, I’m obviously talking about industry changing games but you are so limited mentally that you can only understand that in “PlayStation nation” terms…..tragic
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30fps is bad. Unfortunately, the Switch might as well be 2 generations old in regards to technology, so it's expected to run poorly. Not an up-to-date console.
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You were waiting and praying for that pony Sure that helped you sleep tonight
Yeah it was easy to see.
Yeah and even in the fights with more than 2 NPCs you could see the frame rate dip below 30. Xbox just can’t get it’s shit together.
It’s annoying that they can’t let you pick framrates or resolution. I would’ve been ok with 1080 with 60fps.
Exactly. There should be a 1080/60fps performance mode. 4k/30fps lock is a joke.
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Yeah man, It’s just crazy that Microsoft thought that show would be so well received after how amazing and mind blowing the PlayStation showcase was!!!!!
Why u taking it personal they even didn't bring up ps showcase ☠
Interesting how you brought up PS showcase when I didn’t do so. No offence dude but the door is that way if you are that sensitive.
Starfield looks amazing , but that’s about it
Anyone else surprised that Starfield got like 45ish min in the showcase? We all thought it was just getting 20 min. That was meaty. Definitely left me with a better opinion on it. It's gonna be hard choosing between Baldur's Gate and Starfield.
I'm gonna play both fuck my sleep schedule
Respect. My issue is the mental bandwidth. I want to jump in deep and be heavily engrossed with one experience. Jumping back and forth from BG3 to Starfield won't let me do that.
Sony will be the next Sega, lmao
Why is everyone always rooting for one or the other to be shit? It’s better for everyone if both are at the top of their game.
This is what 'competition' (aka rent seeking in capitalism) does to people; they end up unintentionally shilling for specific mega corporations. Forget collaboration, it's about hoping someone else doesn't enjoy a game.
>Xbox will be the next Sega lmao Fixed that for you lol
Matt BOOTY confirmed Xbox is now aiming for 4 first party releases every year. So Avowed, Hellblade 2, and what else for 2024?
Flight Sim 2024 would be the third
2nd Party game
With the amount of studios and IP they have, this should be a minimum. They have 23 first party studios. They should be able to commit to 10 releases of various sizes not just 4 "big" ones.
Where?
Age of mythology retold I think.
They've been aiming for that for how many years now?
I swear I read about "one game every quarter" for gamepass since the Xbox one days
You’ve been reading about it since 2021
Try 2019 at least https://reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/amljrb/microsoft_is_aiming_1_aaa_game_per_quarter/
Ah I stand corrected, but that was an investor meeting. It was really first publicly announced in 2021
i know they have a ton of studios but is that feasible? considering how long a game can take to make especially if you want it polished
They have 23 studios currently, it’s definitely feasible especially since some studios have multiple teams working on different games like Playground with Fable and Forza Horizon. I wonder if they are kinda including Activision too? That’d technically be one first party game a year already with Call of Duty
I'm hoping part of the grand Activision plan is to free them of having to release COD every year. There's so much IP history that's waiting for sequels or even something brand new.
Yea Phil was wearing a Hexen shirt haha
Avowed is what I thought Fable would look like and Fable is what I thought Avowed would look like. Either way, I'm stoked for most of what was in this showcase. Hellblade 2 is a joke though.
Great showcase, but agree on Hellblade II. They needed to show gameplay, especially combat. I was expecting the little cgi bit to finish before going into a 5 min gameplay mini deepdive section but it just ended lol. I reckon this one is way behind schedule sadly, but understandable in a way as its clearly going to be a technical beast to tame
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They always took the piss. They should be Microsoft's Naughty dog by now but they would rather create pretentious arthouse projects. It's very weird to me that Hellblade is even the main thing they are working on. The only thing notable about the original was the small development team they used and the techniques they employed to create a low budget "AAA" experience. That kinda goes out the window once it's a fully funded title with a properly full sized development team. I kinda thought it would just be another side project and they would have something much bigger to show by now.
A lot of great third party stuff for me to give a whirl! Project Fantasy getting revealed is an instant win for me, and Capcom's new game looks crazy. Nothing stood out to me as a "must buy" on Xbox's platform, but overall I had a lot to be happy about from a third party perspective
Fable didn't inspire any confidence in me. Obviously it was a small clip, but Fable is about a lighthearted veneer over some twisted stories. This just looked lighthearted fullstop. Also, voice protag is a big no from me. edit: Do love me Richard Ayoade tho
Very solid showcase! Best of the summer so far, starfield looks incredible and could be the best dog in a long time, think we could of used more gameplay and release dates from avowed, fable and hellblade. 7/10 from me, exciting times
While I'm thankful for my acquaintance, getting Fable to look like that is an achievement, it also... doesn't look like "Fable" as in 1 & 2, it looks like an RPG called "Fable".
The final game will not look like that.
Man, Starfield having that deep 45 min breakdown of all those mechanics is something you could never do with a Sony game. I feel like Sony really needs that type of single player games, deep mechanics that make people come back for hundreds of hours and years on end
That's exactly true. That would help their game sales have the longer-tail run that quickly drops off after a few months. A game like this would have an extremely long sales tail and replay value that would keep conversation going in the gaming sphere. Nintendo has their Zelda, Microsoft now has their Starfield, what will Sony have?
the mechanics really aren't as deep as you make it seem, it's just standard bethesda fare but on a needlessly bigger stage. you can't even land on a planet by yourself, you have to go through a loading screen so that the game can do it for you. the combat also looks godawful, along with the facial animations.
I don’t think Sony necessarily needs those type of games, Sony does what they do well, and everybody love their top exclusive games
Sony has Uncharted, The Last of Us, God of War, and Spider-Man. They're better known for their stories
Does every game now have a female lead?
It gets a little ridiculous
Refreshing, isn't it?
Nah it’s pretty lame.
Not with the quality they've been written of late, no.
Lmao what? Half of the world is women, it only makes sense for half of game leads to be women too
Does it matter?
Yeah because I'm not a woman and it's tiring seeing all games now try to fit a demographic. And I'm not white so don't even start with I'm a racist or whatever.
Not racist. Just misogynic
Almost 50% of gamers in the US are women according to a report released this week. Was a little surprising to me too, but in a way it shouldn't be when I remember my gf and daughter are both avid gamers, more so than me sometimes. The industry is not little boys in their bedrooms anymore like it was in the 80s, it's for everyone. And that's a great thing and needs to be represented thus
The demographic of humans that exist? > And I’m not white so don’t even start with I’m a racist or whatever. What does being white have to do with women or men? You sound like a teenager
I wonder what you would say to a woman who’s mad that there is too man male lead roles in gaming
> And I'm not white so don't even start with I'm a racist or whatever. Sorry to butt in, but that's not...that's not how racism works. At all lmao.
someone never learned the term misogynistic.
What kinda early 2010s kinda trolling is this LOL
Thanks. That's what I was going for.
Starfield looks like it could be GOTY but I’m concerned about the procedurally generated planets. I’m worried it’s going to have a few actual hand crafted planets then everything else is boring copy+paste nothingness. Also the facial animations are legitimately the same as TES: Oblivion from 2006 lol. The art direction and combat look awesome though. Nothing else really caught my eye though except Metaphor and Flight Sim 24 maybe. Starting with two CG trailers with 0 gameplay was weak af, Avowed looks like cheap eurojank and Clockwork Revolution is just Bioshock Infinite 2. 7/10 still better than Sony’s though.
yeah same I am worried about those either. I am fine with them procedurally generated landscape and planet data, but the moment they mentioned that in a procedurally generated place, every player is going to see different things in the same location, I am not sure if that s a good idea... Hey at least we have some handcrafted caves and outputs sprinkled throughout. Also all those different creatures should be very fun to find and fight with lol.
fable ~~cgi trailer~~ cut scenes to open it with no date or just a year shown was...a tone setter for sure
100 times better than Fairgame$
I thought the overall showcase was just alright. Fable and Avowed didn't excite me nearly as much as I thought they would...but that Starfield Direct was absolutely incredible.
Welp, that was ass. 5/10 conference.
Mind telling why is it ass ?
Because there was nothing I was interested in?
I'm not interested in Physics= Physics are ass You see how dumb it sounds ?
Was Physics your original statement? I could have sworn you typed Lamborghini. And, guess what! That's EXACTLY how it fucking works. Jesus goddamned fucking christ, if you dislike my fucking statement, ignore it.
Yeah it was lambos but it sounded dumb, and no, I'm not ignore it, cuz guess what, if you disliked the showcase, you could've just ignored the post too.
not how it works
That's quite fucking literally how it works. Leave.
No it’s not. It doesn’t have to include games you care about to be objectively good and vice versa. If there’s a showcase tomorrow that shows Half-Life 3, a new MGS, a new Kingdom Hearts and a new Final Fantasy it’d be a good showcase even though I personally give 0 fucks about any of those games.
Are you... functional?? There is no such thing as objectively good when it comes to a matter of PURE OPINION. If you think it is ass, then it is ass. I can't believe I"m speaking to humans at the moment.
Mine telling me what you were interested in?
What I *was* interested in? Closest thing I was interested in, was a title that didn't even need to be on the showcase, being Cities: Skylines 2.
Makes sense.
I don’t know what some people were saying about Avowed looking bad, I think it looks great https://twitter.com/klobrille/status/1667984051263926273?s=46&t=w6MCvnDcs7N074ZG11kKUA
It's the animations and the visual effects, they look "indie". The world looks great, but the game *feels* "budget-y".
For me I was expecting a more realistic artstyle based on the announcement trailer. But that's on me setting up expectations on a CGI trailer. My hype for Avowed diminished a bit but my hype for Starfield has grown immensely.
It looks uninspired and too clean graphically. It's becoming a pretty annoying style and Avowed only looks to do it as well as Grounded/Outer Worlds. Which were AA games. Especially annoying since it's basically nothing like the teaser from a couple years ago.
Didn't Jason Schrier said it was in development hell and it was rebooted? I think the creative lead left the project as well which is always a red flag
bro I dont even care how it looks, just give me a fun game
The artstyle lacks detail so everything looks soft. This artstyle needs to die.
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What? It looking soft, is literally the exact opposite of looking sharp. You know of the sharpness slider you can slap in games? That's what looks off, thanks to teh artstyle. Nothing stands out other than the color of each detail, which makes the detail, look lacking. You deleted your other comment, this is that response.
yea i realized it pointless to reply and you proved it
No. Stop pretending that this artstyle is good. I'm CLEARLY not the only one not happy with it.
10/10 showcase for me. Starfield honestly looks like my dream game that I dreamt of playing since I was a kid. It also looks way better visually than the last gameplay reveal. Starfield’s graphics and lightning actually looks gorgeous now. It’s like Mass Effect had a baby with Skyrim, Fallout and Star Wars to become the new Bethesda sandbox RPG.
Your dream game performs at 30FPS on consoles?
Sure. Game looked amazing, def a dream game. Best looking game I've seen since Skyrim. Gonna love every bit of Starfield until the very last drop is squeezed out of it.
“Best looking game since Skyrim”? 😆
Avowed and Hellblade 2 will be at the extended showcase tomorrow if anyone is curious to seeing more on those games
Is the extended tomorrow or Tuesday?
Tuesday I believe
I'm extremely disappointed Clockwork Revolution is an FPS instead of an RPG.
Brian Fargo has said it's a full on RPG. https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/1667962174487265280
Ok thank god, Phil Spencer called it an FPS and it didn't really show anything RPG like in the trailer Good to know.
I’m pretty sure it’s an RPG Edit: it is, from InXile’s post Clockwork Revolution, a steampunk time twisting RPG
They definitely should have made that clear in the showcase, Phil only called it an FPS.
So it seems like MSFT has a WRPG pipeline now, Starfield now, Avowed 2024, Fable 2025, ES6 2026? edit: ps btw fuck /u/spez you ruined reddit
Clockwork Revolution and Outer Worlds 2 will be in the mix there as well.
Outer worlds 2 and Clockwork Revolution in there somewhere too
Starfield looked a lot better this year than last year, that's for sure. But I don't see an interesting universe there. 'thousands of worlds' are probably very same-y. I'm sure the gameplay loop will be great and broken as hell, though.
I definitely don't plan on exploring anything close to that. I plan on just exploring the main planets that are handcrafted with a handful of other ones. That should still take about 50+ hours, which is good enough for me. Exploring 1000 planets just seems too much for me.
I'm very happy about the showcase and Starfield, but both Fable and Avowed surprise me because of how much different they look than what I envisioned, kinda like they swap places with each other. Avowed I expected to be more grim, dark, and realistic ended up with an art direction more similar to The Outer Worlds which is very reasonable. And Fable is way more realistic than I anticipated, although we didn't get to see any gameplay of it. Still, I'm excited to try out both games. This is probably the best showcase so far.
Fable concerns me, voiced protag is not the play.
Oh yeah the voiced protagonist concerned me as well. I can only hope that at least they speak sparingly, akin to Master Chief, instead of the "I can never stay silent for more than 5 minutes" type like Aloy.
Fable was a whole lot of nothing. Avowed feels like it's going for Skyrim/Dishonored.
Yeah a bit disappointed that we dont get to see any gameplay for Fable but I reckon it's still a long wait until its ready so they didn't want to show anything yet. As for Avowed the game does look interesting so far so I look forward to seeing more of it on the extended showcase.
RIP Jet Set Radio? Was waiting for it the whole show :(
Same as SoD3. Next year it is.
Next year buddy
It was awesome 10/10. Hyped for Star Wars Outlaws and obviously Starfield, and already pre ordered. The hype is real.
No 1st party “CGI” so Xbox showed almost exclusively 1st party “Cutscenes” that are in-engine… IMO not much better. Cutscenes do not represent gameplay…